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He always finds a way to throw the match. Be it batting or even his bowling.

His batting lacks any confidence and looks like a complete tailender facing every ball and often looks he would get out on the next delivery. And than his bowling is way worse. He has bowled in the PSL and is bowing the last over against Sri Lanka, and he was just throwing wides and giving boundaries to the no.10 batsman of Sri Lanka
 
He isnt a strong bowler. More like someone who can slip in 2-3 quick overs in th middle somewhere, than someone who is given the end over. I wasn't watching the match why did he even get the ball at th end?
 
Major said:
He always finds a way to throw the match. Be it batting or even his bowling.

His batting lacks any confidence and looks like a complete tailender facing every ball and often looks he would get out on the next delivery. And than his bowling is way worse. He has bowled in the PSL and is bowing the last over against Sri Lanka, and he was just throwing wides and giving boundaries to the no.10 batsman of Sri Lanka
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Oh please stop this he played a match winning knock with agha yet you are finding small mistakes he did what was needed of him.
 
Aqib_mustafa said:
Oh please stop this he played a match winning knock with agha yet you are finding small mistakes he did what was needed of him.
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He won’t ever nitpick on Misbah’s anointed players.

Where is the thread criticising Rizwan’s dopey keeping which could have cost Pakistan the match today? That was potentially a catastrophic lapse by him

None of these hypocrites will point it out.
 
Rana said:
He won’t ever nitpick on Misbah’s anointed players.

Where is the thread criticising Rizwan’s dopey keeping which could have cost Pakistan the match today? That was potentially a catastrophic lapse by him

None of these hypocrites will point it out.
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Ya rana sahab don't get tha hate for hussain talat build a great partnership with agha where as so called king babar and rizwan failed.
 
Confidence comes from competence.

You need to be competent in your ability as a player to be confident. You gain competence by focusing and honing on a craft work long period of time for long hours and apply it. You also have to be okay with failing and understanding that you will suck at first.

Talat is not even an efficient hitter. He has skill problem with hitting that he needs to seriously work on, if he wants to improve. But first you have to admit to yourself that you suck and that's okay if I want to improve.
 
Pakistan has a rich history of good cricketers lacking confidence - particularly in the last decade and so.

IMHO, Talat does have an issue with confidence. There is evidence to backup the claim. He also dropped an important catch in the game against India.

Nevertheless, he is among a few technically correct batsmen in Pakistan and should be appreciated.

Although, I don't rate him high as an all-rounder but it should be noted that today he was bowling the last over of the game, which was also his first.

With dew helping the batsmen and making it difficult for the bowlers to grip the ball, the question that should be asked is...why was he given the last over, which was his first in the match?

Nawaz had two overs left. There was no way in hell that he was going to give 20 runs to tailenders in an over. Saim could have bowled the last over too.

Talat's body is not fit for just one over. That kind of body takes time to get into rhythm. Such body-type bowlers need few balls to get going.

If he wants to become an effective all-rounder, he needs to lose some weight.
 
tiger_khan said:
Pakistan has a rich history of good cricketers lacking confidence - particularly in the last decade and so.

IMHO, Talat does have an issue with confidence. There is evidence to backup the claim. He also dropped an important catch in the game against India.

Nevertheless, he is among a few technically correct batsmen in Pakistan and should be appreciated.

Although, I don't rate him high as an all-rounder but it should be noted that today he was bowling the last over of the game, which was also his first.

With dew helping the batsmen and making it difficult for the bowlers to grip the ball, the question that should be asked is...why was he given the last over, which was his first in the match?

Nawaz had two overs left. There was no way in hell that he was going to give 20 runs to tailenders in an over. Saim could have bowled the last over too.

Talat's body is not fit for just one over. That kind of body takes time to get into rhythm. Such body-type bowlers need few balls to get going.

If he wants to become an effective all-rounder, he needs to lose some weight.
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Talat doesn't make as a batter but he does make it as an All Rounder.

He needs to back himself as an all rounder and work on bowling skills also.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Talat doesn't make as a batter but he does make it as an All Rounder.

He needs to back himself as an all rounder and work on bowling skills also.
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I agree.

But we need to undersdtand that not all allrounders are equal.

I feel he is a player that can never be used as a strike bowler, but someone who can sneak some overs in to give the captains more overs to juggle with his better bowlers.
 
He was lucky to survive after a plumb lbw.does not inspire any confidence to face and survive the stronger attacks anywhere. He takes too much time to settle down and hitting is another problem.Any good bolwer will fancy himself against talat.
 
Hussain is also a once-in-a-blue-moon type player... He scored a 50 last night and secured his spot for the next few games now...

But he is not gonna do much now
 
Marooned said:
Because he is not international level by any means. Unfortunately we will waste more matches on him before realizing.
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+1 , He is just mediocre player and even with the talent in Pak at all time low he still doesn't deserve a spot in National team as there are atleast 10 better batters out there in domestic cricket who can also roll over their arms like Talat can.
 
Personally, we need to understand what we are picking him for.

He can’t seriously get the nod over another batsman just because he can turn his arm over. And believe me that is all he can do. There is nothing to his bowling at all. Any competent “all-round” bowler should not be trying to bowl wide of the stumps defending 21 runs off the last over against a no10 or 11.

As a batsman he’s an out and out accumulator. There’s always space for an accumulator in ODIs. However, we already have Babar and Rizwan (both woefully out of runs. When you add Fakhar who is also in poor form, you get 4 players who are likely to play slow to get themselves back in form and amongst the runs.

Yesterday was probably Talat’s best innings. But even that would have been for nothing without Nawaz’ hitting at the end.

Babar, Rizwan and Talat should not be playing together.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Talat doesn't make as a batter but he does make it as an All Rounder.

He needs to back himself as an all rounder and work on bowling skills also.
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Ahh yes all-rounder. A term that gets flogged so commonly these days without any merit

A all-rounder is someone who gets into the team either on his batting or on his bowling

What you are talking about is called bits and pieces of cricketers
 
Maybe its just me but i don't understand his role in the team. He is playing in a spot where ideally you'd play a pure allrounder or a finisher/power hitter. But Hussain can neither bowl regular overs nor can he power hit. At his best he is a decent accumulator and with time he has learned to improvise well but it still doesn't justify his selection.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I agree.

But we need to undersdtand that not all allrounders are equal.

I feel he is a player that can never be used as a strike bowler, but someone who can sneak some overs in to give the captains more overs to juggle with his better bowlers.
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He needs to be good enough as 6th bowler
 
amvbfm said:
Maybe its just me but i don't understand his role in the team. He is playing in a spot where ideally you'd play a pure allrounder or a finisher/power hitter. But Hussain can neither bowl regular overs nor can he power hit. At his best he is a decent accumulator and with time he has learned to improvise well but it still doesn't justify his selection.
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Exactly and there are better batters than him in domestic.
 
I think he has come on allrounder quota. and he has played well in last match but he is not a bowler and even not a good batsmen either.
He can score runs here and there but i dont find him decent for international level. He has been playing since long time with same performances.
 
We strongly miss the hard hitting allrounders down the order after the retirement of razzaq and afridi
These two players won us many matches single handedly (even against best teams of that era)

For me, Abdul razzak was best allrounder from pakistan in white ball format. He can bowl really well and bat also at any position with ability to hit hard.
 
I understand Hesson's redundancy through allrounders philosophy but:
1. The allrounders have to be at least good enough for the team to not miss a specialist bowler/batsman
2. Fulfill some role
3. Not be too redundant :p
4. Consideration for format

Hussain at the moment fulfils neither of those conditions.
1. Since he is currently occupying a batting slot, is he better, more useful to the team, than the likes of Saud, Kamran or Hasan Nawaz?
2. What specifically is his role? Power hitter? Finisher? Providing bowling support in the middle overs?
3. Pakistan are currently playing a combination of 3 bowlers + Nawaz + Faheem with Salman and Saim also available to bowl. With this combination i really don't see the point of another allrounder.
4. Too many allrounders might be suitable for T20s where any bowler can have a bad day and where small impactful cameos can be more important than longer innings.

I am not saying that Hussain can't or shouldn't play but if he does play there should be clarity about his exact role in the team. If he is not bowling then he should be treated and assessed as a specialist bat and an occasional over or wicket here and there should not influence his selection. I won't mind him getting an extended run if he can fulfil a specific role like lower order hitting or finishing but adding another accumulator in the guise of an allrounder does not help the team.
 
It’s funny how people are actually making a big deal out of a guy who’s been asked to bat at 6 even though he’s a number 3-4 batter.

No one has an issue with the fraud at number 4 who has been doing nothing but riding off the back of proper batters around him doing the bulk work.
 
He can't play the short/hard length ball . SL made the mistake of pitching it up to him.

If you target his body above hip height , he can be tied down
 
One of the worst players to play for Pakistan.

He is a walking wicket in batting. Yesterday he was plumb out. Every time he comes out to bat he seems to be clueless. What he did against india in Asia Cup should had been enough evidence to drop him.

His bowling, even if he bowls the 25th over, Hussain looks under pressure even before bowling.

Umar Amin was also similar which is why he was never able to establish his career.
 
Tulla Talat was out yesterday for 0. Lucky to survive and he fluked a semi decent score. Now this meaningless match will cost us at the next ICC tournament but you will not hear @Dr_Bassim or @TheSultan utter a peep but they will do bhangra for this tulla and celebrate this win like we beat prime Australia.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Tulla Talat was out yesterday for 0. Lucky to survive and he fluked a semi decent score. Now this meaningless match will cost us at the next ICC tournament but you will not hear @Dr_Bassim or @TheSultan utter a peep but they will do bhangra for this tulla and celebrate this win like we beat prime Australia.
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I don't care for Talat either.

But if he was hogging a spot for freaking 2 years like Babar or that clown Riz, I would be on the warpath against him too.

You seem to think that even 2 to 3 years of failures in tournaments is okay as long as you can watch that cover drive or a clown batting.

I support Pakistan, not blind favorites.
 
Muhammad Saad said:
+1 , He is just mediocre player and even with the talent in Pak at all time low he still doesn't deserve a spot in National team as there are atleast 10 better batters out there in domestic cricket who can also roll over their arms like Talat can.
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Something THIS obvious..even his facial expressions cry out "I'm weak"...still, why does PCB select him ?!
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I don't care for Talat either.

But if he was hogging a spot for freaking 2 years like Babar or that clown Riz, I would be on the warpath against him too.

You seem to think that even 2 to 3 years of failures in tournaments is okay as long as you can watch that cover drive or a clown batting.

I support Pakistan, not blind favorites.
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It must have hurt you badly to see Babar series winning innings vs SA. Rizwan will be back for T20 WC 2026. Keep crying.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Tulla Talat was out yesterday for 0. Lucky to survive and he fluked a semi decent score. Now this meaningless match will cost us at the next ICC tournament but you will not hear @Dr_Bassim or @TheSultan utter a peep but they will do bhangra for this tulla and celebrate this win like we beat prime Australia.
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Haha what’s up with tagging me everywhere. I’m not even a fan of Talat!

He’s a mediocre, slow, tuk tuk maniac - a bit like….rizwan and Babar. All 3 belong to the Stone Age!
 
Rana said:
Right

Josh Hazlewood is an all rounder too. He gets into the team on his bowling.
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RidiculousMan said:
By this definition. Even Babar is an All Rounder
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:facepalm I truly am surrounded by low IQ posters

I don't mean batsmen who are not competent with the ball or vice versa

Examples of true all-rounders:

Kallis- All rounder who can get into the team just as a batsman.

Sobers- Same as kallis

Hadlee- Could get into the team just as a bowler

Imran Khan- same as Hadlee

Kapil Dev- same

Sometimes I think being in jail will be better than arguing with posters with half a brain.

Mujhe jail bhej do yaar. Please mujhe jail bhej do.
 
Raja Ishtiaq said:
Mujhe jail bhej do yaar. Please mujhe jail bhej do
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Yes, do us all a favour.

So an all-rounder is someone who gets into the team just as a batter or bowler? Like Kallis, Hadlee, Khan, Dev?

Still trying to figure this out? If you don’t get into the team as a batter or bowler, you are not an all-rounder? You are a bowler or batter?
 
You can expect these legendary philosophies from someone who has a picture of Rizwan at a press conference:

“An all rounder is someone who gets into the team as a batsman or a bowler”

This is beyond science! This is physics and chemistry!
 
Rana said:
Yes, do us all a favour.

So an all-rounder is someone who gets into the team just as a batter or bowler? Like Kallis, Hadlee, Khan, Dev?

Still trying to figure this out? If you don’t get into the team as a batter or bowler, you are not an all-rounder? You are a bowler or batter?
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They are good enough to get into the team with just their batting or bowling, with their other ability being a massive bonus

For example, if Kallis had no bowling ability, he could still get into the team just as a batsman alone (average over 50). His bowling was a great bonus on top of this.
 
Raja Ishtiaq said:
They are good enough to get into the team with just their batting or bowling, with their other ability being a massive bonus

For example, if Kallis had no bowling ability, he could get into the team just as a batsman (average over 50). His bowling was a great bonus on top of this.
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Right, that’s a bit more clear.

“They survive as either just batters even though they have the ability to offer both”.

So what’s the issue? Why did you have to share your two useless cents in this discussion? What’s annoying you?
 
Rana said:
You can expect these legendary philosophies from someone who has a picture of Rizwan at a press conference:

“An all rounder is someone who gets into the team as a batsman or a bowler”

This is beyond science! This is physics and chemistry!
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I didn't expect a low IQ poster to understand. People like you consider Talat an all-rounder rofl. Nothing more needs to be said 🤣
 
Rana said:
Right, that’s a bit more clear.

“They survive as either just batters even though they have the ability to offer both”.

So what’s the issue? Why did you have to share your two useless cents in this discussion? What’s annoying you?
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The term all rounder being used so casually to describe players.
 
Raja Ishtiaq said:
I didn't expect a low IQ poster to understand. People like you consider Talat an all-rounder rofl. Nothing more needs to be said 🤣
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Honestly,

I’ve never once pushed Talat as an all rounder here.

He’s a specialist batsman. His bowling isn’t international standards. He might be able to roll his arm over here and there but even he doesn’t consider himself an all rounder.

As a batsman, he is more appropriate to white ball and middle order key positions than Babar and Rizwan.
 
Rana said:
Honestly,

I’ve never once pushed Talat as an all rounder here.

He’s a specialist batsman. His bowling isn’t international standards. He might be able to roll his arm over here and there but even he doesn’t consider himself an all rounder.

As a batsman, he is more appropriate to white ball and middle order key positions than Babar and Rizwan.
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He is a decent batter who knows his limits and play accordingly to those limits. Might not be the best choice in T20 cricket but can add good value to the team in the ODIs in the middle order, especially when the team lose early wickets.
 
hassan918 said:
He is a decent batter who knows his limits and play accordingly to those limits. Might not be the best choice in T20 cricket but can add good value to the team in the ODIs in the middle order, especially when the team lose early wickets.
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Yeah I think we need to stop terming him as an all rounder just because he might be able to bowl a bit.

He can bowl an over and get smashed for 25 in the over, he wouldn’t really care

If he gets out for a low score with the bat,, he would be concerned for his position in the team. He takes his batting very seriously.
 
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