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Why does Imam-ul-Haq get so much hate?

ads101 said:
I think he'll eventually play all 3 formats. He's even showing signs of adapting in PSL and domestic T20 where he has increasingly good averages even though it shouldn't be his forte. If he can adapt to that, adapting to tests should be even easier to him as it suits his style of play more.

In Imam's first 4 tests, he averaged 43.50. He fell away in the next few tests. But 11 tests really isn't a big enough sample size. Given his age, the fact he's regularly playing international cricket so will be exposed to high level competition and access to the best coaching and facilities in Pakistan, he has far more room for improvement.

There's no need to rush him in tests necessarily, but it's going to happen sooner than later. Perhaps best to wait until he starts raining in the runs in first class. Which again is only a matter of time, I'm sure it's harder to open in ODIs and average 50 at a SR 80 than it is to score in first class domestic, regardless of whether Imam's a selfish player or not. Selfish or not, he's shown ability to grind out an innings in international cricket, which is something most of our players struggle to do.
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He hardly will play first class becouse they will be same time as the international games.i think he can be tried in tests but i hsve seen a weekenes in playing the short ball and fishing outside of stump.he defonitely shouldnt be playing t20s.
 
Imaam is a good player but he has some issues such as playing the short ball and fishing outside the offstump if he can improve this then i would give him a chance in tests and back up in odis
 
I like him.

Has something in it which Pak players don’t have.

I hope he plays again soon.
 
Pakistanis should stop calling Imam parchi

Just saw the video where Wahab Riaz become mad during the match and went to spectators and asked them who called Parchi. Lets keep things civil. Imam does not need abuse anymore.
 
He did act entitled during a domestic game in 2019/20 when he was criticizing the opposition (Sindh) during a QeA match. Look it up if you don't believe me.

Seriously good player and i look forward to his batting but keep your mouth closed and focus on the task at hand. Defo doesn't deserve the purchi tag i agree, all i want from all our players is to be humble
 
That video is from last year. Nevertheless, I agree, our fans shouldn’t be calling him parchi. However, his entry into the team, coupled with his arrogance and tendency to play selfish innings at times, means this is just a tag he’ll have to live with. The good thing is, it doesn’t seem to faze him, in fact I think it actually fuels him to play better.
 
Shoaibbtt said:
He did act entitled during a domestic game in 2019/20 when he was criticizing the opposition (Sindh) during a QeA match. Look it up if you don't believe me.

Seriously good player and i look forward to his batting but keep your mouth closed and focus on the task at hand. Defo doesn't deserve the purchi tag i agree, all i want from all our players is to be humble
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He is a parchi in T20s for sure. But still it feels wrong to hound him by calling him parchi all the time. It may cause him having a nervous breakdown.
 
Yeah he’s earned his place to at least play. And good on Wahab to look out for his friend.

There’s one true parchi and that is Shan Masood.
 
Imagine being one of the best batsmen for a team like Pakistan which gave Kamran Akmal hundreds of international games to score a ~20 run average at a rubbish strike rate, which had ODI openers like Shehzad, Farhat, Hafeez and where you score consistently at a decent rate - but then persistently get called a parchi.

I think he should be recognised for his patience for dealing with idiotic fans.
 
srh said:
He is a parchi in T20s for sure. But still it feels wrong to hound him by calling him parchi all the time. It may cause him having a nervous breakdown.
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Nah he's actually not a bad t20 player, plays legspin really well which is good to see.

I echo Wasim's statement that he's not quite ready to play test cricket however is a very accomplished odi player and in my view not a bad t20 player.

I mean it just makes people mad when you "red carpet" players and bypass them through the system without any structure.

I mean Haris Sohail in my view is a purchi or just an excuse maker.
 
Typical Pakistan cricket fans.

We have had to endure mediocre and below mediocre top order batsmen for ages
Yasir Hameed
Imran farhat
Hafeez
Malik
Taufiq umer
...

Before them
Salim elahi
Ramiz
Wajahat wasti



But a moment a similar batsman comes along but one who is related to a former Pakistan legend all of a sudden he becomes a damn parchi. To pehley waaley kia they phir, ye to samjhao zara!
 
Stewie said:
Typical Pakistan cricket fans.

We have had to endure mediocre and below mediocre top order batsmen for ages
Yasir Hameed
Imran farhat
Hafeez
Malik
Taufiq umer
...

Before them
Salim elahi
Ramiz
Wajahat wasti



But a moment a similar batsman comes along but one who is related to a former Pakistan legend all of a sudden he becomes a damn parchi. To pehley waaley kia they phir, ye to samjhao zara!
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Well he didn't merit a chance in the England test series in which Inzamam selected him over Fawad. It's not the player but the selector that is to blame.

It's easy for us all to hate here but it's harder to love/accept, I mean there are nonsensical selections that get made which make me mad and are frankly unjustified e.g. selecting Shoaib Malik for one test and "red carpeting" Haris Sohail for the SL home series (took place in UAE at the time).

My comment is always about insaaf and merit, who cares about your background you should be selected on performances regardless of family background, area background etc.
 
Shoaibbtt said:
Well he didn't merit a chance in the England test series in which Inzamam selected him over Fawad. It's not the player but the selector that is to blame.

It's easy for us all to hate here but it's harder to love/accept, I mean there are nonsensical selections that get made which make me mad and are frankly unjustified e.g. selecting Shoaib Malik for one test and "red carpeting" Haris Sohail for the SL home series (took place in UAE at the time).

My comment is always about insaaf and merit, who cares about your background you should be selected on performances regardless of family background, area background etc.
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That makes no sense. Fawad is a middle order batsman. Imam is an opener.

Fawad was always kept out at the expense of asad shafique, azhar (maybe) and any other tried and tested middle order batsmen. And all openers struggle at first in their careers because they are not used to playing new ball on foreign pitches.

Once again, I’m not claiming Imam is some sort of a marqui player because he isn’t. He is mediocre to slightly above mediocre. But we tolerate so many players like him all the time. Looking at hafeez and Maliks of the Pakistan team over the years, there is no way you can justify even giving them so many chances. What about Faisal Iqbal? I think he may have made a career as well because he was on the same level. But everybody raised ruckus over him being “bhanja ” and it messed him up so bad he could barely hold a bat towards the last few chances he got.

Not right! Either kick all these mediocre players out or let the lad play!
 
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Stewie said:
That makes no sense. Fawad is a middle order batsman. Imam is an opener.

Fawad was always kept out at the expense of asad shafique, azhar (maybe) and any other tried and tested middle order batsmen. And all openers struggle at first in their careers because they are not used to playing new ball on foreign pitches.

Once again, I’m not claiming Imam is some sort of a marqui player because he isn’t. He is mediocre to slightly above mediocre. But we tolerate so many players like him all the time. Looking at hafeez and Maliks of the Pakistan team over the years, there is no way you can justify even giving them so many chances. What about Faisal Iqbal? I think he may have made a career as well because he was on the same level. But everybody raised ruckus over him being “bhanja ” and it messed him up so bad he could barely hold a bat towards the last few chances he got.

Not right! Either kick all these mediocre garbage out or let the lad play!
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Go look up the statements selector Inzamam made during that series saying we are considering youngsters and then proceeds to add a few oldies.

Like I said it’s not Imam’s fault he gets selected but the fault of the selector. It’s Imam cockiness I don’t like, thinking he’d get selected against SA automatically during the commentary during the NZ series.
 
Shoaibbtt said:
Go look up the statements selector Inzamam made during that series saying we are considering youngsters and then proceeds to add a few oldies.

Like I said it’s not Imam’s fault he gets selected but the fault of the selector. It’s Imam cockiness I don’t like, thinking he’d get selected against SA automatically during the commentary during the NZ series.
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Well that might be the case. We are saying the same thing but seem to be arguing different points.

Personally I don’t even know who the selector is anymore and it doesn’t matter because our selection process has always been nonsensical or incompetent or (insert adjective of your own choice here)

I am just talking about people unnecessarily begrudging Imam. I don’t think he deserves any of it. I also think he can improve and actually be a player of value to us. We gotta stop bashing players for their connections or relations.
 
Stewie said:
Well that might be the case. We are saying the same thing but seem to be arguing different points.

Personally I don’t even know who the selector is anymore and it doesn’t matter because our selection process has always been nonsensical or incompetent or (insert adjective of your own choice here)

I am just talking about people unnecessarily begrudging Imam. I don’t think he deserves any of it. I also think he can improve and actually be a player of value to us. We gotta stop bashing players for their connections or relations.
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For me as long you prove your worth and are performing then you deserve selection, however if you are a consistent non-performer then you should not be persisted with.

I mean Imam's exclusion from the test squad was justified and Wasim justified this with stats.

My criteria as a fan is simple, be humble and perform other than that couldn't care less.
 
Imam had a long way to go to be a solid opener, but saying that, he is good enough to play imo. He doesn't deserve the flack dlme"fans" give him
 
Stewie said:
That makes no sense. Fawad is a middle order batsman. Imam is an opener.

Fawad was always kept out at the expense of asad shafique, azhar (maybe) and any other tried and tested middle order batsmen. And all openers struggle at first in their careers because they are not used to playing new ball on foreign pitches.

Once again, I’m not claiming Imam is some sort of a marqui player because he isn’t. He is mediocre to slightly above mediocre. But we tolerate so many players like him all the time. Looking at hafeez and Maliks of the Pakistan team over the years, there is no way you can justify even giving them so many chances. What about Faisal Iqbal? I think he may have made a career as well because he was on the same level. But everybody raised ruckus over him being “bhanja ” and it messed him up so bad he could barely hold a bat towards the last few chances he got.

Not right! Either kick all these mediocre players out or let the lad play!
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Hafeez will get in Cricket T20 Hall of Fame on 1st ballot after he retire and his eligibility comes up.
 
Imam should be playing today. He is the best of the openers lot Pakistan have. Just needs a bit of a rope to establish himself.

Already has won Pakistan a game against Ireland - which I don't see this lot doing.
 
Corridor of Uncertainty said:
Imam should be playing today. He is the best of the openers lot Pakistan have. Just needs a bit of a rope to establish himself.

Already has won Pakistan a game against Ireland - which I don't see this lot doing.
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Imaam has a weekeness against the shorter ball and outside off stump but hopefully he performs in the next domestic competition to see if he's made any improvements
 
like a few have said here, imam needs to score heavily donestically to get a look in at test side again. both his domestic and tests stats are very mediocre to say the least.
 
Way better than most openers we have. Certainly better than the two who are currently playing in the test side.

Hate is due to nepotism tag. His numbers are good.
 
Snowflake said:
Way better than most openers we have. Certainly better than the two who are currently playing in the test side.

Hate is due to nepotism tag. His numbers are good.
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His last test was in December 2019 which was just over a year before our last test series against SA in January 2021 and he was given a run of 10 games before that from May to January 2019 including 2 series in the UAE where he severely struggled.

His FC stats are worse than Abid, Butt and all the other mediocre options we have tried in the past couple of years so they all deserve a go before him.

If Imam wants to be in contention for the test side he needs to have a good FC season under him and prove he's better than the other options which shouldn't be too hard considering how limited our options are.

If he can't do even this much then he should be nowhere near the test team.
 
Imam is a level headed and educated guy and he is intelligent enough to learn and improve so he might get a nod ahead of all the village guys we are trying as openers.
 
Add to that he is a proving match winner in ODis , only in pakistan you can keep a player of this calibre away from test cricket , the guys surely has many flaws in his technique but he knows the art of scoring heavily and also under pressure , this trait alone will let him walk in to our Test and Odi unit.
 
He's better than Abid and Imran Butt. Fans and Mohammed Wasim will say Imam needs to score more at first class level. Well Imran Butt first class numbers have been average in the last few years yet he has been selected .

Our chief selector seems to have different rules for different players.
 
Hasan123 said:
He's better than Abid and Imran Butt. Fans and Mohammed Wasim will say Imam needs to score more at first class level. Well Imran Butt first class numbers have been average in the last few years yet he has been selected .

Our chief selector seems to have different rules for different players.
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imam was called up into test side give a run of 10 tests at one point and failed and was dropped. so yea he has to prove himself and earn a recall.

how else do you exoect dropped players to earn recalls?
 
Amjid Javed said:
imam was called up into test side give a run of 10 tests at one point and failed and was dropped. so yea he has to prove himself and earn a recall.

how else do you exoect dropped players to earn recalls?
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A majority of those tests were 3/4 years ago. Imran Butt has done jack at domestic level and is the test opener. At least Imam has shown he can score against international level attacks. Our chief selector has difficulty rules for different players.
 
Hasan123 said:
He's better than Abid and Imran Butt. Fans and Mohammed Wasim will say Imam needs to score more at first class level. Well Imran Butt first class numbers have been average in the last few years yet he has been selected .

Our chief selector seems to have different rules for different players.
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Imran butt and imaam has similar stats but imran has played more that's the only difference.
 
shamaan said:
Imran butt and imaam has similar stats but imran has played more that's the only difference.
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Imam has shown he can score against international class attacks in ODIs. He definitely deserves his chance over Imran.
 
Hasan123 said:
A majority of those tests were 3/4 years ago. Imran Butt has done jack at domestic level and is the test opener. At least Imam has shown he can score against international level attacks. Our chief selector has difficulty rules for different players.
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He averaged 61 in I think 2 seasons ago in domestic
 
Hasan123 said:
Imam has shown he can score against international class attacks in ODIs. He definitely deserves his chance over Imran.
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That's one thing that is on his side is that he has proven he has the temperament and skill to score big.
 
Hasan123 said:
Imam has shown he can score against international class attacks in ODIs. He definitely deserves his chance over Imran.
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Muhammad Wasim and fans are right he needs a little more time in domestic. Talented boy but isn’t doing himself justice, an average of 27 in 21 innings is not good enough plus no 100 either.
 
Shoaibbtt said:
Muhammad Wasim and fans are right he needs a little more time in domestic. Talented boy but isn’t doing himself justice, an average of 27 in 21 innings is not good enough plus no 100 either.
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The problem is Mohammed Wasim has selected Imran Butt who has not had many great seasons at domestic level.
 
Hasan123 said:
The problem is Mohammed Wasim has selected Imran Butt who has not had many great seasons at domestic level.
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Well like Shamaan said him and Imran are about par with regards to FC cricket. What's wrong with playing another season if you are Imam? The next QeA season is in October.
 
Shoaibbtt said:
Well like Shamaan said him and Imran are about par with regards to FC cricket. What's wrong with playing another season if you are Imam? The next QeA season is in October.
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The problem I have is the selector makes different rules for different players.

Hopefully Imam has a good FC season.
 
Hasan123 said:
The problem is Mohammed Wasim has selected Imran Butt who has not had many great seasons at domestic level.
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It was actually Misbah who selected Butt first for the NZ series. He didn’t play a game out there and so would have been unfair to drop him without giving him a chance considering he was selected off the back of an excellent domestic season a season ago. Unfortunately for your agenda, Butt was next in line for a chance. He’ll probably fail in the long run but don’t go around blaming Wasim for it.
 
BigShak said:
It was actually Misbah who selected Butt first for the NZ series. He didn’t play a game out there and so would have been unfair to drop him without giving him a chance considering he was selected off the back of an excellent domestic season a season ago. Unfortunately for your agenda, Butt was next in line for a chance. He’ll probably fail in the long run but don’t go around blaming Wasim for it.
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Mohammed Wasim is the chief selector and it's pretty clear he doesn't take anyone else's input as Saj has reported Babar wants certain players selected and they haven't selected.

Nice try to blame Misbah for something. Typical.
 
The best solution is to discard Imran Butt and keep Imam as well as Sami Aslam out.

Bring back Shan Masood.
 
topspin said:
The best solution is to discard Imran Butt and keep Imam as well as Sami Aslam out.

Bring back Shan Masood.
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One thing I like about Imran is that he is undoubtedly a very safe pair of hands. I am happy to give this guy 10-15 Tests to find himself because I think he will do well if he gains the confidence. He’s easily the best slip catcher in Pakistan, name someone better?
 
Rana said:
One thing I like about Imran is that he is undoubtedly a very safe pair of hands. I am happy to give this guy 10-15 Tests to find himself because I think he will do well if he gains the confidence. He’s easily the best slip catcher in Pakistan, name someone better?
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I agree he's an excellent slip fielder but fielding skills alone are not sufficient to play international cricket. He deserves another year or so at least as he's still young.

Abid Ali needs to be dropped for Shan Masood though.
 
Shan Masood?

It has been obvious since 2013, which was 8 years ago, that he simply does not have the talent required for this level.

Imam has had a poor start to his Test career but there is no doubt about the fact that he has a higher ceiling and he will be more prolific than Masood after 8 years of investment.

Imran Butt is as poor a batsman as Masood and it doesn’t matter if he is good at taking regulation catches. Shafiq was an even better slip catcher and that wasn’t enough to keep him in the team forever.

Butt, Abid, Masood - all three are not international material and never will be.
 
Shan, Imran, and Abid are not the answer. But that doesn’t mean Imam is either. Has too many issues with the moving ball and the short ball to be a decent Test opener outside of Asia. We need to look elsewhere.
 
Hasan123 said:
Mohammed Wasim is the chief selector and it's pretty clear he doesn't take anyone else's input as Saj has reported Babar wants certain players selected and they haven't selected.

Nice try to blame Misbah for something. Typical.
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Babar wanted all his oldies back and wasim wasn't having it rightly so.
 
I hope he performs well in the next domestic alongside usman Salahuddin who should open for his domestic team.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2529 runs with seven centuries in 59 international matches so far 🏏 <br><br>Wishing a happy birthday to Pakistan opener Imam-ul-Haq 🎂 <a href="https://t.co/2rmSGJJGMa">pic.twitter.com/2rmSGJJGMa</a></p>— ICC (@ICC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC/status/1473631950543982594?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
At the opening of Shoaib Malik's new restaurant.

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Continues to be picked in the Pakistan ODI squad.

Must be impressing the selectors.

Average of 49.34 but a strike-rate of 80.30
 
Saj said:
Continues to be picked in the Pakistan ODI squad.

Must be impressing the selectors.

Average of 49.34 but a strike-rate of 80.30
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Inflated average after minnow bashing at the start of his career.

Let’s use his stats vs Top 5 instead.

Average of 39.52 with a strike rate of 76.35.

Please also note that in the top 5 stats, it consists of games against Australia C in the tri-series in Zimbabwe.

Mohammad Wasim has zero justifications on the selection of Imam ul Haq in LOI’s.
 
He gets hate because of suggestions his selection is based on nepotism... his averages are inflated from soft runs and minnow bashing. He showed he can't play in pressure situations after his flop in the second test match and his strike rate is too low for a modern ODI player. He belongs in the 80's era...
 
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The Imam Ul Haq hate

Why is this guy hated by pakistanis fans? Yes he got selected in the intial years because of the advantage of having inzamam as an uncle, but over the years with an avg of 50+ he has proven to be a good player.

He has now entered the top ten odi batting rankings yet fans hate him.

He is probably the most stable opener we have had after saeed anwar
 
Nobody hates him He just needs to improve his strike rate which isnt good enough at the moment Yes he brings stability and runs to the top order but he needs to get better Strike rate some would argue is more important than avge

Hed be more useful to the team if he avged 40 and had a strike rate of 90 than what hes currently doing
 
Don't know but his batting looks selfish and also at crucial times he fails that's why his runs have no use like Pakistan lost the 1st ODi though Imam scored a 100 but even if would not have scored a 100 Pakistan would had also lost
The probability of Imam scoring runs doesn't lead to Pak winning therefore he is not a match winner runs only matter when you win
 
His record is phenomenal but he really needs to look more intent on scoring boundaries instead of just look to give strike back to the other batsman.

Watch Greame Smith bat. Watch how his technique and base is fully covered, and then watch how he asserts dominance on the bowlers by looking to score boundaries. Imam has the technique and base but he doesnt have the intent to score boundaries.

He is strong enough to stand in his crease and loft the bowlers if needed, so why then does he only have the one dance down the track release shot? He can be much, much better than what he is right now but he needs to be ready to sacrifice that poor strike rate of 80.
 
An openers job isnt to finish games though, it is to give platform and others to perform. Imam is doing that.

Thr people that dislike imam would you say icc rankings are flawed than?
 
Imaam is doing his job and setting the platform the other batters also need to take responsibility.
 
shamaan said:
Imaam is doing his job and setting the platform the other batters also need to take responsibility.
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This is where the thinking is wrong we dont need platform setters

Yday head won the game He was the opener Get in there and smack the ball out of the park and win the game

You dont see other teams openers consolidating or setting up a base like pakistans
 
Major said:
An openers job isnt to finish games though, it is to give platform and others to perform. Imam is doing that.

Thr people that dislike imam would you say icc rankings are flawed than?
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A platform of increasing the req run rate from 6 to 8. shabash imam go cut yourself a cake.
 
Zaz said:
This is where the thinking is wrong we dont need platform setters

Yday head won the game He was the opener Get in there and smack the ball out of the park and win the game

You dont see other teams openers consolidating or setting up a base like pakistans
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No one has provided solutions.Head role is to play aggressive similar to fakhar.
 
Major said:
Why is this guy hated by pakistanis fans? Yes he got selected in the intial years because of the advantage of having inzamam as an uncle, but over the years with an avg of 50+ he has proven to be a good player.

He has now entered the top ten odi batting rankings yet fans hate him.

He is probably the most stable opener we have had after saeed anwar
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Simple he does his job but his job is not spectacular enough for PPers. They don't want stable consistent players.... that's boring!

They love extravagant players who contribute nothing but the occasional outrageous performance which is spoken about for the rest of their careers while all the failures are quickly forgotten about.

In reality Pakistan don't have anyone capable of being consistently brilliant so should rely on solid reliable players. Currently it's all mixed up with too many hopes being placed on players performing attacking roles they don't have the ability to carry out.
 
Amjid Javed said:
No top ODI team has a snail or achor opener. This is 2022 not 1980.
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Still would rather have a “snail” scoring 100 off 100 balls then tullaybaaz like Fakhar, Khushdil, Iftikhar and of course fat Sharjeel
[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]
 
msb314 said:
Still would rather have a “snail” scoring 100 off 100 balls then tullaybaaz like Fakhar, Khushdil, Iftikhar and of course fat Sharjeel

[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]
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Then be happy with us being this terrible team who can’t compete with anyone for serious honours
 
msb314 said:
Still would rather have a “snail” scoring 100 off 100 balls then tullaybaaz like Fakhar, Khushdil, Iftikhar and of course fat Sharjeel

[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]
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Any with that wish of yours pakistan will remain a low rung odi team like SL and WI.
 
msb314 said:
Still would rather have a “snail” scoring 100 off 100 balls then tullaybaaz like Fakhar, Khushdil, Iftikhar and of course fat Sharjeel

[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]
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The thing is no one has provided solutions because they know that thier are real alternatives.
 
Rana said:
Then be happy with us being this terrible team who can’t compete with anyone for serious honours
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Amjid Javed said:
Any with that wish of yours pakistan will remain a low rung odi team like SL and WI.
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What you two still do not realize is that Fakhar, Sharjeel, Iftikhar, Haider are not Warner, Rohit, Bairstow, Roy and never will be.

We are used to once in a blue moon fluke knocks of 50 off 20 balls due to Afridi fluking his way for two decades.

Babar and Imam are not the problem. Once the middle order starts scoring runs we will automatically start winning. Simple as that.
 
Rana said:
Then be happy with us being this terrible team who can’t compete with anyone for serious honours
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shamaan said:
The thing is no one has provided solutions because they know that thier are real alternatives.
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Their are alternatives but they are substandard. Babar and Imam are not the issue. Fix the middle order and ask Fakhar to be more consistent - results will improve automatically.
 
msb314 said:
What you two still do not realize is that Fakhar, Sharjeel, Iftikhar, Haider are not Warner, Rohit, Bairstow, Roy and never will be.

We are used to once in a blue moon fluke knocks of 50 off 20 balls due to Afridi fluking his way for two decades.

Babar and Imam are not the problem. Once the middle order starts scoring runs we will automatically start winning. Simple as that.
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The same Fakhar Zaman who averages mid 40’s with a high strike rate in the 90’s? Those stats are identical to the likes of Warner, Baitstow and Roy !!!

Sharjeel Khan’s stats are around the same as Alex Hales, but you’ll be in awe of Hales because he’s English.

Funny how you bring Afridi into this and say that he was a problem even though we all know the Pakistani top order would fall like a pack of cards but then make an excuse for Babar and Imam. Afridi’s job in the team was to score quick 30-40’s, not to build a partnership in the freakin’ 30th over as a number 7.

“Imam and Babar aren’t the problem because middle order aren’t scoring runs.

“Afridi was a problem because he couldn’t score 160 off 100 balls batting with the tail”.
 
Imam's mentality can be summed up by the way he celebrated his 100. Your team is on the back foot, there is plenty of work to do and what does Imam do? He celebrates like he has toned up against India in a WC match.

This mentality is what is keeping him mediocre and this is the mentality that will keep our ODI team mediocre.

it's a shame however. If Imam could just improve his ability to rotate strike, drop his dot ball percentage and develop a release shot that doesn't involve him charging down the wicket, then he could easily be the modern day opener we need. However as his celebration suggests, he is content with mediocrity and our team failing as long as he scores another ton
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Also, “ask Fakhar to be more consistent” whilst he averages more than Roy😂
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The tuk tuk phenomena fans will go at all lengths to try and brainwash the Pakistani awaam at how their method of approaching the game is the only method suitable to our cricket
 
msb314 said:
Their are alternatives but they are substandard. Babar and Imam are not the issue. Fix the middle order and ask Fakhar to be more consistent - results will improve automatically.
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You watch cricket differently. That’s your thing, I’m cool with that.

I’ll tell you again, and soon you will realise I was correct. Pakistan has 3 cricketers approaching the white ball game in the correct manner.

Fakhar Zaman
Shadab Khan
Harris Rauf

Besides these 3, they have decent players who have good numbers, but they are very similar to how you would find gun players in associate sides with top numbers too because of playing each other.
 
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