Why does Jaguar not have a great reputation in Pakistan/Asia?

[gkb101277867]

As a child growing up in the UK I always dreamt of one day buying a Jaguar. I always considered Jaguars to be a notch above other vehicles in the same bracket such as Audi, Mercedes and BMW as did my freinds.

However the impression that I got speaking to relatives and cousins in pakistan was that Jaguar is not really considered a desirable enough brand in pakistan. In fact a lot of them hadn't even heard of them whereas they knew about the others.

I find this very strange. Any reason for this?

 

[Slog]

Because people don’t know about it.

In Pakistan people only know about Mercedes and BMW from luxury brands and Audi now people are getting to know.

Lot of people know about Rolland royce for some reason though

 

[cricketjoshila]

Because Jaguar entered the Subcontinent late.

 

[JaDed]

Its not doing that well anyway, land rover though sells very well.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Jaguar isn't that highly rated in the UK either. It has a luxury badge association, but most people who want a high end car will buy Mercedes, Range Rover or BMW. I think there used to be reliability issues in the past, no idea if their reputation has improved more recently.

 

[Bosanquet]

Jaguars have been extremely sought after in UK for decades - in their niche. That is as a sporty luxury vehicle. And since they are seen as a "British" car brand (even though currently Indian owned) they have a certain cachet over and above their German competitors. While in the past they had reliability issues , these were largely fixed by the current models since the Tata takeover.

Some personal experience - I have owned and driven a 3-series, 2 models of the 5-series, the Audi A6 & have had a XF (Jag) for the past 4 years. The XF is, by a margin, the most beautiful,comfortable and sporty big saloon I have ever driven. The snarl of the engine when you put your foot down is quite bewitching! Sadly, in the interest of the environment and my conscience, my next car will be electric.

As for the original question postulated by the OP - I can only speak of Kolkata, where I travel regularly. Practically nobody knows anything about this brand. Most of the people I meet there are puzzled when I explain that in my experience the XF is superior to the BMW 5 and Audi A6. They do however like the Landrovers & rangerovers.

 

[HussainRx8]

Isn't it owned by TATA now?

 

[Napa]

Jaguars have been extremely sought after in UK for decades - in their niche. That is as a sporty luxury vehicle. And since they are seen as a "British" car brand (even though currently Indian owned) they have a certain cachet over and above their German competitors. While in the past they had reliability issues , these were largely fixed by the current models since the Tata takeover.

Some personal experience - I have owned and driven a 3-series, 2 models of the 5-series, the Audi A6 & have had a XF (Jag) for the past 4 years. The XF is, by a margin, the most beautiful,comfortable and sporty big saloon I have ever driven. <b>The snarl of the engine when you put your foot down is quite bewitching! Sadly, in the interest of the environment and my conscience, my next car will be electric.</b>

As for the original question postulated by the OP - I can only speak of Kolkata, where I travel regularly. Practically nobody knows anything about this brand. Most of the people I meet there are puzzled when I explain that in my experience the XF is superior to the BMW 5 and Audi A6. They do however like the Landrovers & rangerovers.

Maybe they will add sound effects to their new generation of electric cars to keep that famous snarl.

My wife test drove a 4-cylinder XF once, but as she was used to the power of a 6-cylinder Mercedes E class, she did not go for it. As for me, I just look for the best deal

Isn't it owned by TATA now?

Yes.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Jaguars have been extremely sought after in UK for decades - in their niche. That is as a sporty luxury vehicle. And since they are seen as a "British" car brand (even though currently Indian owned) they have a certain cachet over and above their German competitors. While in the past they had reliability issues , these were largely fixed by the current models since the Tata takeover.

Some personal experience - I have owned and driven a 3-series, 2 models of the 5-series, the Audi A6 & have had a XF (Jag) for the past 4 years. The XF is, by a margin, the most beautiful,comfortable and sporty big saloon I have ever driven. The snarl of the engine when you put your foot down is quite bewitching! Sadly, in the interest of the environment and my conscience, my next car will be electric.

As for the original question postulated by the OP - I can only speak of Kolkata, where I travel regularly. Practically nobody knows anything about this brand. Most of the people I meet there are puzzled when I explain that in my experience the XF is superior to the BMW 5 and Audi A6. They do however like the Landrovers & rangerovers.

Sorry but the XF has extremely low ground clearance and is unsuitable for Indian roads. The E series, 5series and A6 are better. So is the C series.

Yes the inside comfort of XF is better than others and ride quality is a bit better too.

Regarding the acceleration and drive quality its the E series thats the best.

 

[Napa]

Jaguar has had a poor year, and Tata Motors stock price has suffered as a result. Hope they will bounce back.

Back in 2008 Ford decided that it could not make Jaguar profitable enough for continued ownership and sold it to Tata for $2 billion. Better management by the Tata gave JRL a new lease of life and it was soon making $2 billion yearly profits!

 

[Bosanquet]

Sorry but the XF has extremely low ground clearance and is unsuitable for Indian roads. The E series, 5series and A6 are better. So is the C series.

Yes the inside comfort of XF is better than others and ride quality is a bit better too.

Regarding the acceleration and drive quality its the E series thats the best.

My entire driving experience is in UK, continental Europe & US. The nuances of ground clearances have not been an issue over here. But I hear you and will consider a Jeep if & when we feel the need to buy a car in Kolkata.

It may be the slightly lower clearance that gives the XF it's great handling over twisty B -roads & windy mountain passes. That makes me favour the XF for it's handling and comfort. I have driven Audis & beamers extensively (>40,000 miles in each) and find that the XF is superior to both for the driver. Only driven the e-class during a short rental in US so will not comment. Except to say that they seem to be largely driven by obese elderly men! Hence not my cup of tea.

As for the theoretical 0-62mph and 30 -70 mph times, at the 3 litre engine levels, they are quite similar in Audi, BMW, merc and Jags. You cannot tell the difference without a stopwatch. I don't use a stopwatch while I am driving!

 

[Bewal Express]

I thought this thread was about the Jaguar cats.

 

[gkb101277867]

I thought this thread was about the Jaguar cats.

 

[gkb101277867]

My entire driving experience is in UK, continental Europe & US. The nuances of ground clearances have not been an issue over here. But I hear you and will consider a Jeep if & when we feel the need to buy a car in Kolkata.

It may be the slightly lower clearance that gives the XF it's great handling over twisty B -roads & windy mountain passes. That makes me favour the XF for it's handling and comfort. I have driven Audis & beamers extensively (>40,000 miles in each) and find that the XF is superior to both for the driver. Only driven the e-class during a short rental in US so will not comment. Except to say that they seem to be largely driven by obese elderly men! Hence not my cup of tea.

As for the theoretical 0-62mph and 30 -70 mph times, at the 3 litre engine levels, they are quite similar in Audi, BMW, merc and Jags. You cannot tell the difference without a stopwatch. I don't use a stopwatch while I am driving!

Have you driven the XE? If so then how does it compare with the XF?

 

[Bosanquet]

Have you driven the XE? If so then how does it compare with the XF?

No, never have. Motoring press say that the ride and handling are not as good as the XF. But of course the XE is a smaller & more economical car made to compete in a lower market segment.

Currently seriously considering the i-pace; I am becoming "environmental" in deference to my millennial son. Unfortunately it was released just a year ago and so cannot get a 2-3 year old model. I never buy new since you lose >50% in depreciation in first 3 years.

 

[sshakir411]

Brits have a habit of making their things sound better. This is true for jaguar and Aston. They’ve never been in the league of their competitors and have always only done better in Britain.

 

[cricketjoshila]

My entire driving experience is in UK, continental Europe & US. The nuances of ground clearances have not been an issue over here. But I hear you and will consider a Jeep if & when we feel the need to buy a car in Kolkata.

It may be the slightly lower clearance that gives the XF it's great handling over twisty B -roads & windy mountain passes. That makes me favour the XF for it's handling and comfort. I have driven Audis & beamers extensively (>40,000 miles in each) and find that the XF is superior to both for the driver. Only driven the e-class during a short rental in US so will not comment. Except to say that they seem to be largely driven by obese elderly men! Hence not my cup of tea.

As for the theoretical 0-62mph and 30 -70 mph times, at the 3 litre engine levels, they are quite similar in Audi, BMW, merc and Jags. You cannot tell the difference without a stopwatch. I don't use a stopwatch while I am driving!

Well Jeep has reliablity issues in India, till sometime back.

Well the low floor of Jaguar does give it better handling, but on Indian roads, the floor will hit the speed breakers.

Having driven BMW and C Class and E Class extensively since a teenager and Audi recently, i can blindly say that overall Mercedes has the best combination.

And btw the S class is peerless.

 

[IAJ]

There is only one car...

 

[cricketjoshila]

There is only one car...

Kaun si.....?

 

[IAJ]

Kaun si.....?

Bayerische Motoren Werke

 

[King-Misbah]

Bayerische Motoren Werke

Poor basic interior #BMW. Audi offers much more and is a great drive. I have driven Lexus, Audi, BMW, Merc...Audi is the best design and drive.

 

[IAJ]

Poor basic interior #BMW. Audi offers much more and is a great drive. I have driven Lexus, Audi, BMW, Merc...Audi is the best design and drive.

Lol, ok, khush raho.

 

[King-Misbah]

Lol, ok, khush raho.

Whats the point of this comment? Patronising if you ask me.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Bayerische Motoren Werke

Merc is better. By some distance.

 

[Napa]

Bayerische Motoren Werke

The Mercedes ride is better but BMW is more exciting.

An interesting fact about BMW is that its major shareholders are the grandchildren of the wife of the Reich Plenipotentiary for Total War Joseph Goebbels.