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Why doesn’t Misbah-ul-Haq get the respect which he deserves?

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Is it because of his Mohali innings or is it because of his shot against India in the final?

In my opinion, he has been a great servant for Pakistan Cricket.

To lead a team which was severely hurt by the spot-fixing scandal, was already a major task for him as no ‘respectable Pakistani cricketer’ wanted to take that job.

And then making UAE Pakistan’s fortress and being the first ever Asian captain to win against South Africa in South Africa.

As Ramiz Raja :raja would say Misbah was as cool as a cucumber.

The man who has brought us much joy and ‘grief’ with his ‘tuk-tuk’ - Misbah ul Haq


Misbah’s notable achievements:

- Pakistan's most successful Test captain with 26 wins.

- Most Successful Captain of Asia in Test Format. He has won eleven test series.

- Fastest fifty in Tests (21 Balls) against Australia in Abu Dhabi.

- First Pakistani captain who whitewashed England for the first time in Pakistan Cricket’s history in 2012.
 
I liked Misbah.

I wish though he had retired from ODIs long time before tests.
 
I think misbah is a great example of perseverance and hard work. But because of our system of self preservation he wasn't able to inspire those around him to be Great.
 
It is because of the shot he played in the 2007 final vs India and the entire innings he played vs India in 2011. And because both times were against India it made it even worse.
 
Lol he has gotten plenty of respect which he doesn't deserve
 
He gets more respect than he deserves. What he did to our ODI side is unforgivable.
 
Its dissapointing, people forget the spot fixing scandal he pulled us out of, the england test whitewash taking us onto no.1 in tests.
 
Way overrated and "overrespected" . We achieved some and lost a lot during his depressing years.
 
CadPakFan said:
It is because of the shot he played in the 2007 final vs India and the entire innings he played vs India in 2011. And because both times were against India it made it even worse.
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2011 SF inning was the post selfish one ever played by a Pakistani batsmen.
 
Excellent test player and captain
Okay OdI player worst odi captain

His team seleftions were poor
 
Tuk...tuk...tuk...and tuk. Now everyone in our team is tuk...tuk...tuk. Enough said.
 
The most depressing and boring era for a team that was known for its flair and exuberance.

Very much reflective of Misbah's personality.
 
Asif321 said:

Brilliant test batsman player

Good test captain

horrible OdI player

worst odi captain

His team selections were very poor
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Revised your points a little.....


4-5 years I tried to preach exactly these points here on PP .....but most posters did not agree with me.

I am glad a lot of fans can see the truth now.
 
I don’t believe Misbah lost respect for the 2007 final loss, if anything he gained sympathy. Where it really began to fall apart for Misbah was the Mohali innings. It wasn’t so much the loss, but the manner of loss – Tuk Tuk style.

Since that loss Pakistani fans neither forgot nor forgave him, and that one innings stuck with him forever as a defining factor of his career because moments can define a career.

What he did for the Test team was fantastic, because the Test format suited his calm, leveled, and tuk tuk style, but in ODIs, his approach was just not suited, and the ODI team suffered.

To make matters worse, Misbah towards his end of his career turned into an aggressive player! When fans saw what he was capable of, in parallel to his Tuk Tuk past, any respect towards him, was now an interrogation.

In the end there is no denying he stabilised Pakistan team after the spot-fixing saga, achieved some great moments in the Test arena, but fans more than often remember the losses than the wins, because losses hurt more which is why Misbah will remain one of the most controversial players in Pakistan's history.
 
It would have been something if we had invested in Misbah Ul Haq instead of Younis Khan in ODIS.

Misbah Ul Haq became a regular in the team at age 33... He turned out to be one of our most solid bats ever, failed miserably in Mohali along with Younis Khan... But he's always been someone who you could rely on to stay in the middle and get you some runs.

1.Salman Butt
2.Kamran Akmal
3.Shoaib Malik
4.Inzamam Ul Haq
5.Yousuf Youhana (back then)
6.Misbah Ul Haq
7.Shahid Afridi
8.Abdul Razzaq
9.Shoaib Akhtar
10.Mohammad Sami
11.Arshad Khan
 
Our fans don’t respect him because of 2011 vs India in the semis. But the rest of the cricketing world respects him for the way he carried himself and helped rebuild the Pakistan team image after the spot fixing scandal.
 
Dont know why Misbah is blamed for the lack of flair and defensive tactics. It's not like his predecessors - Waqar, Inzi , Moyo were particularly great tacticians. Wasim, when he wasn't politicking or looking to make a quick buck, was the last captain of Pakistan who used to pick talented youngsters and encouraged attacking cricket with a lot of flair and aggression.
 
I feel any mature sensible cricket fan with knowledge of the game - whether Pakistani or not - respect Misbah greatly for what he did on the pitch and how he conducted him self off of it.

He's a true gentleman and took the Test team to new heights. In limited over cricket it could be argued that he under achieved, however, the fact is that 90% of the time head walking out to bat on 20/3 so hard to ask too much and he still had a very respectable limited over career.

It's ironic - he gets alot to slack for not being able to finish the games Vs India in 2007 or 2011. However, if he had gotten out early in his innings - like majority of the batsmen did in both instances - no one would have even remembered that Misbah played those games. In 2007 Misbah was the sole reason we even had a chance to win the match, so the fact that he gets so much slack for not being able to finish it. Meanwhile, in 2011, even if Misbah got dismissed early the team was not going to chase down India's target.
 
BaankeJi said:
He is respected everywhere for both cricketing and non- cricketing reasons.

He is not worshipped like Imran though but that should be fine for most.
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Who cares what rest of the world thinks about him, his era was a bad dream for Pakistan cricket and it will take some time to recover from it.

He was also delusional about his age.
 
For being super-duper conservative in ODIs and hogging his spot in it for far too long. PCB, as incompetent it is, did not help to get rid off him sooner.

Pakistan main jab tak gadhay kee tarah laaat nay paday, "sense of pride" nahi jagta.
 
People will miss him. Mark my words.

Universe has a way of punishing the ungrateful!
 
JattMaula said:
People will miss him. Mark my words.

Universe has a way of punishing the ungrateful!
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O, please , we are trying to forget him and his era. I know he earned lots of respect in your country.
 
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moghul said:
Who cares what rest of the world thinks about him, his era was a bad dream for Pakistan cricket and it will take some time to recover from it.

He was also delusional about his age.
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Yup and the current era is like the happiest dream for our team. Whitewashing every team all over the planet in both Tests and ODI's.
 
people's in Pakistan was bit against Misbah due to his approach in ODIs.. but I see people giving credits to misbah for reviving Pakistan from spot fixing, it's actually 2011 WC journey was revived Pak image.. though he's a true gentleman of cricket, and underachieved both formats of the game..
 
Bump.

While there are rumors he’s being considered for head-coaching the Pakistan team, the hate for Misbah is increased...

I wonder why.

Maybe he will turn out to be an excellent coach or maybe he will turn out to be the worst coach ever we’ve had.

Only time will tell.

So why don’t we take the risk and support Misbah as head coach if there aren’t any better options available?
 
Mueez said:
Bump.

While there are rumors he’s being considered for head-coaching the Pakistan team, the hate for Misbah is increased...

I wonder why.

Maybe he will turn out to be an excellent coach or maybe he will turn out to be the worst coach ever we’ve had.

Only time will tell.

So why don’t we take the risk and support Misbah as head coach if there aren’t any better options available?
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*has increased & we’ve ever had.
 
He is respected for what he has done but he was not an a great batsmen just good enough to stay in the side and decent captain not the best ever or anything like that. He is respected enough for what he was.
 
He heralded a new era for Pakistan, and is held in high esteem by his peers outside of Pakistan, PP fans obviously know a lot more about cricket then actual past players and writers and will always criticize Misbah, ye he played a silly shot against india 2007 but we would have been embarrassed if it wasn't for his innings. Probably the most astute and qualified past player we probably have left
 
Always respected him.

A great man on and off the field.

He captained the team in the most difficult era possible and delivered with dignity.
 
He shouldn't be getting the respect he does not deserve
 
Apparently getting a test mace and equaling the worlds fastest test century, a record that was held by non other than the great sir Viv, not to mention having to steer the team out of the devestating spot fixing scandal, is not enough
 
No one's questioning misbahs limited achievements as a player, for me he's not a qualified coach and will not implement the style of play that is required in the modern day cricket
 
Mueez said:
Bump.

While there are rumors he’s being considered for head-coaching the Pakistan team, the hate for Misbah is increased...

I wonder why.

Maybe he will turn out to be an excellent coach or maybe he will turn out to be the worst coach ever we’ve had.

Only time will tell.

So why don’t we take the risk and support Misbah as head coach if there aren’t any better options available?
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so I wouldn't call it hate
 
The answer is very simple. Most of his critics are people whom you would categorize under the casual watchers bracket.

They associate a few of his failures 2007 T20 WC, 2011 WC SF with his entire career and always peddled the perception of him being a very slow player and defensive in mindset. When you peddle or give heed to such a perception, it manages to stick. But I think most people who weren't casual observers and followed Misbah's career especially after he took over the reins in the aftermath of the spot-fixing scandal right up to Pakistan's first series win in West Indies have the highest respect for him and his contribution to Pakistan cricket. Indeed he has accomplished things few other Pakistani captains have. For me, he is in the elite club of Pakistan captains along with Kardar and Imran
 
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Because people here value ODI/T20 cricket more than tests. Most people boil down his entire career to his failure of an innings in 2011 WC against India and the failed runchase in 07 t20 final again vs India. The fact that these two huge moments of disappointments came against india has affected Misbah's reputation among casuals a lot (hence the tuktuk moniker). It wasnt like he was the only reason we lost either of those two games too. In 07, Misbah's innings was the only reason we got close, and in 2011 although he batted poorly, it was our pathetic fielding that was the much bigger factor.

It is a huge shame that this is what so many fans associate with him. Personally I choose to remember him for all the great things he did for our test team. He took over at the most precarious time for our cricket, right after the spot fixing incident and slowly led us back to number 1 (albeit briefly). Always gritty, always dignified and undisputedly our greatest captain since the original kaptaan himself.
 
Give him a treat, take him out to dinner but keep him away from the Pakistani team
 
Cuts_and_cuts_hard said:
Because people here value ODI/T20 cricket more than tests. Most people boil down his entire career to his failure of an innings in 2011 WC against India and the failed runchase in 07 t20 final again vs India. The fact that these two huge moments of disappointments came against india has affected Misbah's reputation among casuals a lot (hence the tuktuk moniker). It wasnt like he was the only reason we lost either of those two games too. In 07, Misbah's innings was the only reason we got close, and in 2011 although he batted poorly, it was our pathetic fielding that was the much bigger factor.

It is a huge shame that this is what so many fans associate with him. Personally I choose to remember him for all the great things he did for our test team. He took over at the most precarious time for our cricket, right after the spot fixing incident and slowly led us back to number 1 (albeit briefly). Always gritty, always dignified and undisputedly our greatest captain since the original kaptaan himself.
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Even in that 2011 semi final, Younis Khan's innings was 10 times worse. 10 off 32 and then dismissed by a a part timer. People only remember Misbah because he was there until the end.
 
I will always have a lot of respect for him. He was a very good test bat and captain, decent in ODIs. People bash on Misbah for not providing good results in ODIs, but fail to see we had the likes of Shehzad, Akmal, Hafeez, Aizaz Cheema, Rahat Ali in our side.
 
To me he gets too much respect by apparent real cricket fans who understand cricket. For us not so knowledgeable he was awful cricketer. What I disliked is his team selection, batting style, and his personality. The guy in every department was stale and boring. He preferred oldies over youngsters. His batting was limited so he stuck to tuk tuk to hide his flaws. He did not know how to rotate strike. He looked self entitled as if he was the only who can bat where as others can’t without him. So making sure he tuks every ball in order to stay on the crease longer. Where as other batsmen fell due to his pressure build up. He was a awful cricketer, I am glad the stats show it.
 
He was a bit boring and defensive and that's why many people might have disliked him.

I personally think that he was a great captain and a great cricketer. He was never involved in any controversy and Pakistan became #1 in Test under his captaincy.
 
Very good cricketer, led Pakistan with Grace and honour in difficult times, you can't say that about many Pakistani captains
 
His achievements outweigh his failures.

He was superb for Pakistan cricket, especially at a time when Pakistan cricket was in strife.

A well-respected man and cricketer and someone who should be proud of what he achieved.
 
Many Pakistani fans prefer flash over substance. Shahid Afridi still has a large fanbase despite being one of the worst players to have featured in over 300 ODIs. As captain his main achievement was running like a hare midway through a tour !

However since he produced a few once in a blue moon knocks and his face was plastered on TV commercials 24/7, he received unearned popularity.

Meanwhile those less flamboyant players who grafted in domestic cricket and worked hard for their success tend to be ignored or derided.
 
Likely to do with his abysmal ODI leadership and tuk tuk style of batting. However, agree that he led the team with dignity and winning in West Indies was a befitting end to his career even if he prolonged it a little bit.
 
He already gets more than he deserves. Dude left us in the dumps by the time he retired. Left us no future. Mickey had to work extremely hard to bring this culture and team back up.
 
Junaids said:
He gets precisely the respect he deserves: none whatsoever.

Consider this Australian article about the worst captain ever to tour Australia.....

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...ulhaq-before-sydney-test-20170103-gtl4ua.html
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While I agree his captaincy was atrocious during the Oceania tour of 2016, it’s not easy for overseas captains these days.

Especially when AUS offers a B-Class team for a warm-up and got extravagant reverse swing throughout the Test series whereas the Pakistani bowlers did not. (Sandpaper me thinks?)

I remember Michael Clarke being heralded as a modern-day Brearley after the 2013 Ashes and 2014 SA tour.

He came to the U.A.E against a team at their lowest confidence point in a decade and set unique and imaginative fields but got smashed beyond belief for a 2-0 whitewash.

He looked clueless not because he wasn’t a great captain but because his players couldn’t execute the plans they had come up with in the expected fashion.

Misbah deserves every ounce of criticism for that tour but it’s not because he was a poor leader. But after watching bodacious stroke-makers constantly put the team in a precarious position as a youngster, he opted for safety and security over the need to win at all costs.
 
2007.2011. Took our cricket a couple of decades back in time. Did not groom a single youngster's confidence as captain. Etc, etc etc.


Do you want me to go on?
 
Only a handful of posters here hate him but they are very expressive so it seems overall PP hates him. Don't go by these.
 
Misbah just won't go away. I thought when he finally retired we would be rid of him. But he just keeps coming back, like a bad sequel.

He's the worst possible pick for a coach imo.
 
Mohali innings just defined what kind of character Misbag was, most selfish player to play for Pakistan. He would not care for team or Pakistan cricket , would do anything to benefit himself.
 
Lol what is the OP talking about?

Misbah captained Pakistan for 7 long years, was allowed to play cricket till his late 40's and was awarded an A central contract even though he had retired from odi and T20 cricket. Was and is still allowed to cash in on the psl. Is allowed to play domestic cricket, has been appointed to the PCB Cricket Committee and is now appointed camp comandant and is in the running for a team director role.

How the hell has this individual been disrespected in any capacity? In fact he has been given respect and rewards way above his stature and achievements.

Imran Khan was told to buzz off after winning the 1992 WC by the PCB
 
I hope the fans on this site are a minority ,because Misbah is one of the truly great captains in this sport we claim to follow. He was also Pakistan's most important captain post Imran.
 
barah_admi said:
I hope the fans on this site are a minority ,because Misbah is one of the truly great captains in this sport we claim to follow. He was also Pakistan's most important captain post Imran.
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What's his credentials as a coach?, im not against misbah the former player who was decent, personally we need a tom moody or a gary Kirsten who are quality coaches
 
Manunited18 said:
What's his credentials as a coach?, im not against misbah the former player who was decent, personally we need a tom moody or a gary Kirsten who are quality coaches
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I am not sure which coaching qualifications he has, in fact, such qualifications to me seem a bit redundant in this case. Having said that, coaching is not the point of the thread, it is about giving the man his due respect from so called cricket fans.
 
barah_admi said:
I hope the fans on this site are a minority ,because Misbah is one of the truly great captains in this sport we claim to follow. He was also Pakistan's most important captain post Imran.
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I think you are giving him credit for the situation he was put in more so than the captaincy. If he is such a great captain than why was his team struggling to get into the 2015 World Cup?
 
Shazzam said:
I think you are giving him credit for the situation he was put in more so than the captaincy. If he is such a great captain than why was his team struggling to get into the 2015 World Cup?
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He was an exceptional test captain, unbeaten from 2010-12, then again from 2014-2016, with a stripped down pace attack, only one truly world class spinner and an average set of batsmen. In ODIs, there was a lot left to be desired but he still managed to hold together a ragtag group of players, where the team fluctuated in a time of great distress and change.

It is his test legacy that will obviously be the stand out.
 
Markhor said:
Many Pakistani fans prefer flash over substance. Shahid Afridi still has a large fanbase despite being one of the worst players to have featured in over 300 ODIs.
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agree 100%. people like misbah who just quietly go about their business trying to do the best they can are not respected in pakistani society. that's why we have such a savior mentality in the country, always waiting for the next hero to rescue us from our woes.
 
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