Why doesn't PCB negotiate a series in Pakistan against Australia, England, South Africa and NZ?

[Executioner]

I have been around this forum for a while, so far PCB has urged India, Sri Lanka, WI, Zimbabwe and bullied Bangladesh to tour Pakistan.

Why hasn't PCB offered teams like England or Australia to tour? True that these teams are unlikely to tour on security grounds but one would think PCB will consider the safety of players from each country equal. But surely, if PCB can go as far as blackmail BD and India to tour(blackmailing the latter hardly matters) but western teams weren't even asked to.

 

[Noman]

I have been around this forum for a while, so far PCB has urged India, Sri Lanka, WI, Zimbabwe and bullied Bangladesh to tour Pakistan.

Why hasn't PCB offered teams like England or Australia to tour? True that these teams are unlikely to tour on security grounds but one would think PCB will consider the safety of players from each country equal. But surely, if PCB can go as far as blackmail BD and India to tour(blackmailing the latter hardly matters) but western teams weren't even asked to.

These teams play pak in UAE. Bangladesh NOT becsuse of poor planing. India are not playing Pakistan because of the hate

 

[Executioner]

These teams play pak in UAE. Bangladesh NOT becsuse of poor planing. India are not playing Pakistan because of the hate

Yes but the point is why do those teams can play in UAE as much as they want but PCB won't ever ask them to tour Pakistan?

 

[Gr8Gaur]

When did PCB asked BCCI to tour PAK?

 

[Gr8Gaur]

Yes but the point is why do those teams can play in UAE as much as they want but PCB won't ever ask them to tour Pakistan?

Cause PCB already knows the answer + everytime 10,000 security guarding one stadium, cost is not feasible. Also every single match in Lahore would result in boredom.

 

[Executioner]

When did PCB asked BCCI to tour PAK?

PCB was mentioning that India should tour Pakistan as PCB is incurring losses due to the teams not playing.

Cause PCB already knows the answer + everytime 10,000 security guarding one stadium, cost is not feasible. Also every single match in Lahore would result in boredom.

Same applies to series against Bangladesh, Lanka. Or do white people need extra security than their brown counterparts?

 

[Pete Rose]

Because BCB is indebted to them for life because something something about helping BCB win test status.

 

[Gr8Gaur]

PCB was mentioning that India should tour Pakistan as PCB is incurring losses due to the teams not playing.

Not that India should tour PAK, they say that its PCB's turn to host BCCI in UAE or anywhere else. I don't think anyone in PCB in their right frame of mind would even think about asking IND to tour PAK.



Same applies to series against Bangladesh, Lanka. Or do white people need extra security than their brown counterparts?

Well, they bribed ZIM because they knew ZIM were desperate but AUS, ENG and NZ ain't needy.

And the bitter truth is YES! White still rules the world, plenty of examples are there in cricket itself.

 

[tomato]

Because BCB is indebted to them for life because something something about helping BCB win test status.

I thought BCCI had more clout in world cricket to make sure Bangla gets test cricket.

 

[Pete Rose]

I thought BCCI had more clout in world cricket to make sure Bangla gets test cricket.

history is subjective and confusing.

 

[tomato]

history is subjective and confusing.

Still there must be some sources to prove or not.

 

[Pete Rose]

Still there must be some sources to prove or not.

oh that's very clear BCCI had lead leading role and Pakistan went along wit it. but to hear PCB describe it, you would come away with the impression that it was PCB against ICC to get BCB status.

 

[Pakpak]

Australia is not coming, they didn't come after 1998 so they're not coming now. No Western country will come, the only hope is Asians countries, in some misguided dream of brotherhood. Which we know does not exist, we have no relations with India, Haseena hates Pakistan's guts, Afghanistan has no appeal and Sri Lanka would be reluctant for obvious reasons.

Once Pakistan has more PSL games in Pakistan and there is a climate of assurity then I guess more teams might be persuaded.

 

[tomato]

Australia is not coming, they didn't come after 1998 so they're not coming now. No Western country will come, the only hope is Asians countries, in some misguided dream of brotherhood. Which we know does not exist, we have no relations with India, Haseena hates Pakistan's guts, Afghanistan has no appeal and Sri Lanka would be reluctant for obvious reasons.

Once Pakistan has more PSL games in Pakistan and there is a climate of assurity then I guess more teams might be persuaded.

For PSL to work you have to provide similar security provided during final is it really possible to provide such security for every match?

 

[Gr8Gaur]

For PSL to work you have to provide similar security provided during final is it really possible to provide such security for every match?

What was the cost of security for the PSL final ?

 

[Pakpak]

For PSL to work you have to provide similar security provided during final is it really possible to provide such security for every match?

For a few games yes it is, for the entire tournament no chance.

The ICC report indicated the infrastructure which Lahore has in terms of security included:

-thousands of CCTV cameras
-command and monitoring structures spread out
-mobile command centers
-emergency bunkers

Total cost of the entire system was about $200 million implemented since the last decade in conjunction with London's met police. Hence any game can really only happen in Lahore, whether its international or not. There are other big cities like Faisalabad, which have a history of NO terror attacks in its history (it is the 3rd biggest city) or the garrison city of Pindi, but its doubtful they could pull it off without the extensive security apparatus available in Lahore.

 

[Pakpak]

For PSL to work you have to provide similar security provided during final is it really possible to provide such security for every match?

What was the cost of security for the PSL final ?

I am not sure, they recouped it all and made an absolute killing if Sethi is to be believed. And I woudn't be surprised.

 

[Gr8Gaur]

For a few games yes it is, for the entire tournament no chance.

The ICC report indicated the infrastructure which Lahore has in terms of security included:

-thousands of CCTV cameras
-command and monitoring structures spread out
-mobile command centers
-emergency bunkers

Total cost of the entire system was about $200 million implemented since the last decade in conjunction with London's met police. Hence any game can really only happen in Lahore, whether its international or not. There are other big cities like Faisalabad, which have a history of NO terror attacks in its history (it is the 3rd biggest city) or the garrison city of Pindi, but its doubtful they could pull it off without the extensive security apparatus available in Lahore.

$200 Million !!!!

 

[Pakpak]

$200 Million !!!!

Not the cost of the final, its the cost of the security apparatus of the city which has been improved since Musharaf's times.

 

[tomato]

For a few games yes it is, for the entire tournament no chance.

The ICC report indicated the infrastructure which Lahore has in terms of security included:

-thousands of CCTV cameras
-command and monitoring structures spread out
-mobile command centers
-emergency bunkers

Total cost of the entire system was about $200 million implemented since the last decade in conjunction with London's met police. Hence any game can really only happen in Lahore, whether its international or not. There are other big cities like Faisalabad, which have a history of NO terror attacks in its history (it is the 3rd biggest city) or the garrison city of Pindi, but its doubtful they could pull it off without the extensive security apparatus available in Lahore.

$200 million must be 2000 crore Pakistan rupees are you sure about this number?

 

[Pakpak]

$200 million must be 2000 crore Pakistan rupees are you sure about this number?

You guys are getting confused, 200 million is not the cost of the final. It is the cost of training and upgrading the police and security systems ie money spent by the government in the last decade in the face of terror attacks.

My point was they only did everything in Lahore, all these facilities are not there in other cities. For that to happen Pakistan government has to do the same in every city, they're too corrupt to do so.

 

[Gr8Gaur]

Not the cost of the final, its the cost of the security apparatus of the city which has been improved since Musharaf's times.

And in how many years can PSL make PCB capable of hosting home games? Any idea ?

 

[Pakpak]

And in how many years can PSL make PCB capable of spending $200 millions ? Any idea ?

It is not PCB's job, its the government's job. The government has spent this much on Lahore since 2008ish, for every city to be of the same standard this is what it will take.

Which they won't do, so they can continue eating money.

 

[tomato]

You guys are getting confused, 200 million is not the cost of the final. It is the cost of training and upgrading the police and security systems ie money spent by the government in the last decade in the face of terror attacks.

My point was they only did everything in Lahore, all these facilities are not there in other cities. For that to happen Pakistan government has to do the same in every city, they're too corrupt to do so.

There are many attacks happened in Lahore recently so just spending money won't be enough.Also it's not impossible to make security arrangements as you can always call Army.

Main issue is what is the use of playing sports in heavy security?

 

[Pakpak]

There are many attacks happened in Lahore recently so just spending money won't be enough.Also it's not impossible to make security arrangements as you can always call Army.

Main issue is what is the use of playing sports in heavy security?

Heavy security is everywhere, in Bangladesh when England came to visit there were thousands of personnel. Its the reality. The problem is that in Pakistan its needed more due to our history (even though right now we have less attacks than when teams were visiting us) the same facilities are not there in other cities, and it is not possible to call the army. They are not the police. Its better to invest in police than call up army again and again.

 

[Gr8Gaur]

PCB doesn't know how to make money, not as competent as their BCCI counterparts.

 

[Pakpak]

PCB doesn't know how to make money, not as competent as their BCCI counterparts.

That is the half-truth. BCCI's goal is to make Indian cricket a powerhouse, even if the executives eat money they will not compromise on the main goal.

PCB's motto is to eat money, period. Pakistan team has not had 28 foreign trips, there have not been 28 trips abroad requiring the presence of chairmen yet all our top people have spent millions on 28-33 trips abroad, paid by PCB. Saj here has said some numerous times how PCB offers people free travel, free food, free tickets if they are favorable to them in the media.

Hence you get Indian domestic players earning good money while ours earn peanuts. (Though internationally its been better our players who play all formats now get a few crore a year (around 1 crore INR).

 

[tomato]

PCB doesn't know how to make money, not as competent as their BCCI counterparts.

PCB cannot make too much money compared to BCCI.infact no other cricket boards combined can't make the money BCCI can make.

 

[Junaids]

I have been around this forum for a while, so far PCB has urged India, Sri Lanka, WI, Zimbabwe and bullied Bangladesh to tour Pakistan.

Why hasn't PCB offered teams like England or Australia to tour? True that these teams are unlikely to tour on security grounds but one would think PCB will consider the safety of players from each country equal. But surely, if PCB can go as far as blackmail BD and India to tour(blackmailing the latter hardly matters) but western teams weren't even asked to.

Because our cricketers' unions would laugh at the idea. It's ludicrous.

This afternoon on a plane I watched an episode of the English genealogy show "Who do you think you are?" about deaths at the time of Partition in the family of a British celebrity whose Sikh family was from Montgomery district.

They went to Delhi and Amritsar and rural Indian Punjab. But Pakistan is considered far too dangerous to visit.

I keep saying it, but the only way Pakistan will ever host home international cricket before the year 2100 is if they develop a stadium in Gwadar.

 

[Gr8Gaur]

That is the half-truth. BCCI's goal is to make Indian cricket a powerhouse, even if the executives eat money they will not compromise on the main goal.

PCB's motto is to eat money, period. Pakistan team has not had 28 foreign trips, there have not been 28 trips abroad requiring the presence of chairmen yet all our top people have spent millions on 28-33 trips abroad, paid by PCB. Saj here has said some numerous times how PCB offers people free travel, free food, free tickets if they are favorable to them in the media.

Hence you get Indian domestic players earning good money while ours earn peanuts. (Though internationally its been better our players who play all formats now get a few crore a year (around 1 crore INR).

Everywhere the officials eat money, I'm sure Giles Clarke would be many times richer than the richest English cricketer, maybe Root at present. The point is PCB simply lacks the brain to find ways of generating revenues or maybe they have become habitual to spoon feeding.

I'm sure that even till 2007 when IND last toured, PCB wasn't even the 4th richest board. From Butt, Ashraf to Sethi and Shahryar, none could do what Dalmiya did, maybe there was no intention ?

 

[Pakpak]

Everywhere the officials eat money, I'm sure Giles Clarke would be many times richer than the richest English cricketer, maybe Root at present. The point is PCB simply lacks the brain to find ways of generating revenues or maybe they have become habitual to spoon feeding.

I'm sure that even till 2007 when IND last toured, PCB wasn't even the 4th richest board. From Butt, Ashraf to Sethi and Shahryar, none could do what Dalmiya did, maybe there was no intention ?

Bold is bit is what I said.

 

[Executioner]

Because our cricketers' unions would laugh at the idea. It's ludicrous.

This afternoon on a plane I watched an episode of the English genealogy show "Who do you think you are?" about deaths at the time of Partition in the family of a British celebrity whose Sikh family was from Montgomery district.

They went to Delhi and Amritsar and rural Indian Punjab. But Pakistan is considered far too dangerous to visit.

I keep saying it, but the only way Pakistan will ever host home international cricket before the year 2100 is if they develop a stadium in Gwadar.

The point here is why doesn't PCB invite these nations in the first place?

 

[Rayyman]

Because of an inferiority complex of inviting a developed country when you yourself are still developing.

 

[czar]

Because PCB are well aware that those boards wouldnt send their teams to Pakistan in a million years under current circumstances and they cannot even be bullied or forced to tour as they are not dependent on Pakistan for anything.

Now that leaves who? Bangladesh off course who PCB wants to use for their Trial and Error Tour , which will help them to convince other teams to tour.

 

[reversehook]

Agreed with the op 100% here. I know exactly where you are coming from on this inquiry; why choose and select. If they deem that there is enough protocol on hand for a Bangladesh series, that same protocol should suffice for any other playing nation. However, the sad truth is, its not feasible yet security wise (or cost wise) to hold a series at home. They should be thanking teams for rejecting atm. And if for some reason even if say bangla visits, nothing will be gained out of it. Pcb will still have to beg everyone or force the hand to try to get a series. If you are serious about cricket being brought back home, get a English or Aussie side in to make some sort of impact, if any.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I think OP just want consistency from fans and PCB. There is no need to criticise Bangladesh for saying no to tour Pakistan because other countries are also not touring currently. If it was Australia or South Africa people would have said 'we respect their decision to not tour us'.

 

[Executioner]

I think OP just want consistency from fans and PCB. There is no need to criticise Bangladesh for saying no to tour Pakistan because other countries are also not touring currently. If it was Australia or South Africa people would have said 'we respect their decision to not tour us'.

That has been my point for quite a while now.

I respect PCB's decision to invite us and respect the fact that they are trying their level best to bring cricket back in Pakistan. But its an insult for us when PCB and many Pakistan fans says Bangladesh definitely should tour Pakistan and if not cut all ties with BCB.

What my cause for concern is, why does PCB not show its guts against other nations? PCB have such double standards. Yes I know hypocrisy is a part of the real world, but what PCB will gain by bullying BCB into touring Pakistan?

For starters, I want to see PCB show some guts and invite western teams to tour Pakistan and if they decline, ask them for compensation for the losses incurred due to not touring Pakistan as well as threaten to hold back its players from playing leagues in that particular country. That is a fair world.

 

[Executioner]

Because of an inferiority complex of inviting a developed country when you yourself are still developing.

This inferiority complex from Desis is quite alarming to say the least. In all sectors of life actually. We feel the life of a white person is far more valuable than someone with brown skin

 

[Naseef]

I have been around this forum for a while, so far PCB has urged India, Sri Lanka, WI, Zimbabwe and bullied Bangladesh to tour Pakistan.

Why hasn't PCB offered teams like England or Australia to tour? True that these teams are unlikely to tour on security grounds but one would think PCB will consider the safety of players from each country equal. But surely, if PCB can go as far as blackmail BD and India to tour(blackmailing the latter hardly matters) but western teams weren't even asked to.

The 4 you mentioned are never gonna tour which is why. And PCB bullies Bangladesh because it was our ex board president who promised that Bangladesh will tour Pakistan which I think the PCB still couldn't move on from.

Also, why will any international team want to tour Pakistan when the psl itself is not held there?

I do want international cricket to return to Pakistan but it seems highly unlikely in the near future. Hope the world xi tour goes well and gradually the "Pakistan is unsafe to travel" cliche becomes obsolete.

But honestly the "not travelling to Pakistan" thing seems hypocritical when you compare examples like France hosting Euro 2016 after the attack in Paris. If anything, this is all political.

 

[Gr8Gaur]

The 4 you mentioned are never gonna tour which is why. And PCB bullies Bangladesh because it was our ex board president who promised that Bangladesh will tour Pakistan which I think the PCB still couldn't move on from.

Also, why will any international team want to tour Pakistan when the psl itself is not held there?

I do want international cricket to return to Pakistan but it seems highly unlikely in the near future. Hope the world xi tour goes well and gradually the "Pakistan is unsafe to travel" cliche becomes obsolete.

But honestly the "not travelling to Pakistan" thing seems hypocritical when you compare examples like France hosting Euro 2016 after the attack in Paris. If anything, this is all political.

Then again the argument comes back to 'was any team or player attacked in France, directly' ?

 

[Messiah]

Because BCB owes favors or something to PCB for helping them get test status or whatever. If BCB doesnt agree, they are indian lapdog and bangla shud be banished from playing with pakistan because they are not being pushovers. Can you imagine these types of demands ever working?? But such are the viewpoints of many unfortunately.

 

[Messiah]

The 4 you mentioned are never gonna tour which is why. And PCB bullies Bangladesh because it was our ex board president who promised that Bangladesh will tour Pakistan which I think the PCB still couldn't move on from.

Also, why will any international team want to tour Pakistan when the psl itself is not held there?

I do want international cricket to return to Pakistan but it seems highly unlikely in the near future. Hope the world xi tour goes well and gradually the "Pakistan is unsafe to travel" cliche becomes obsolete.

But honestly the "not travelling to Pakistan" thing seems hypocritical when you compare examples like France hosting Euro 2016 after the attack in Paris. If anything, this is all political.

If you dont understand the difference betwene playing in pakistan and playing in france...

 

[Executioner]

The 4 you mentioned are never gonna tour which is why. And PCB bullies Bangladesh because it was our ex board president who promised that Bangladesh will tour Pakistan which I think the PCB still couldn't move on from.

Also, why will any international team want to tour Pakistan when the psl itself is not held there?

I do want international cricket to return to Pakistan but it seems highly unlikely in the near future. Hope the world xi tour goes well and gradually the "Pakistan is unsafe to travel" cliche becomes obsolete.

But honestly the "not travelling to Pakistan" thing seems hypocritical when you compare examples like France hosting Euro 2016 after the attack in Paris. If anything, this is all political.

Its less political than you think. BCB unlike BCCI has less pressure from the government.

True our government is anti Pakistan to a certain extent but our board, which too includes several MPs, don't share the same sentiments especially when conducting talks with Pakistan.

Bangladesh have always opened up their arms to Pakistan except for sending the national team to Pakistan. That my friend is just protecting the interest of one's own assets

 

[Bilal7]

BCB is the administrative board of a minnow. It should be a privilege for them to tour the home grounds of the best Asian cricket nation of all time. Australia, England, etc are not minnows and thus, they don't really need to tour Pakistan. They play us in the UAE, which is good enough.

The BCCI/Indian government are simply being bigoted and discriminatory and the PCB is just exposing their internalized hatred and laughable hypocrisy to the rest of the world.

 

[Gr8Gaur]

The BCCI/Indian government are simply being bigoted and discriminatory and the PCB is just exposing their internalized hatred and laughable hypocrisy to the rest of the world.

On the contrary they're trying to make PCB independent but to no avail.

 

[Couch Cricketer]

Pcb guys are idiots they keep asking for others to play a whole series in Pakistan. Instead they should schedule just 1 odi or T20 of a series in Pakistan the rest in Uae. The security requirements to stay and play 30-40 days in a country are to much they will never get approval from the security of the opposition team. But for a 2 day stay where the team comes plays and leaves next day is a possibility. The risk profile decrease for a shorter duration.

 

[Executioner]

BCB is the administrative board of a minnow. It should be a privilege for them to tour the home grounds of the best Asian cricket nation of all time. Australia, England, etc are not minnows and thus, they don't really need to tour Pakistan. They play us in the UAE, which is good enough.

The BCCI/Indian government are simply being bigoted and discriminatory and the PCB is just exposing their internalized hatred and laughable hypocrisy to the rest of the world.

Okay so because our team is weak means our players lives are less valuable while Australia England side are better so need not tour Pakistan. Fantastic logic

 

[JaDed]

Lol at minnows being above the greatest Asian side in ODI rankings.Think BCB should just take pity on the greatest Asian side and tour them.

 

[sshakir411]

BCB was never bullied. Lets face it...BCB was due a full tour in 2012 but after discussions with Zaka Ashraf and Kamal (with assurance given to vote for Kamal for ICC presidency) BCB later agreed to tour for one T20 and one ODI. This was confirmed until India threw a few peanuts towards BCB and they backed out, after PCB held its promise of voting for Kamal. The agreement to tour was also officially announced with Mustafa Kamal saying "The public of Pakistan have been deprived of cricket and we felt that we needed to support them, The reception we received when we toured Lahore and Karachi on our security visit was overwhelming."

BCB turned out to be a snake-esque board just like BCCI.

 

[Gr8Gaur]

This was confirmed until India threw a few peanuts towards BCB and they backed out, after PCB held its promise of voting for Kamal.

BCB turned out to be a snake-esque board just like BCCI.

Do you have any source to back your claims or just another conspiracy theory, fun to listen, eh ?

 

[sshakir411]

Do you have any source to back your claims or just another conspiracy theory, fun to listen, eh ?

Look up when India agreed to a series with Bangladesh analogous to when Kamal visited Pakistan. Connect the dots.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Do you have any source to back your claims or just another conspiracy theory, fun to listen, eh ?

Most PCB defenders have their own version of history. They lie, repeat it a dozen times, and then convince each other that it is the truth.

 

[Gr8Gaur]

Look up when India agreed to a series with Bangladesh analogous to when Kamal visited Pakistan. Connect the dots.

Against your theory, here is my logic.

If BCCI's (old one) entire focus was to deprive PAK of hosting cricket then don't you think they could have offered ZIM more money than what PCB offered to them to not tour PAK ? Why did BCCI allowed that to happen? They can easily make ZIM dance to its tune.

BTW I asked for a source as in a link or something but as expected you got none cause you seem to love these home made conspiracy theories way too much.

 

[Bilal7]

Okay so because our team is weak means our players lives are less valuable while Australia England side are better so need not tour Pakistan. Fantastic logic

No one said that. Stop being a sissy, little victim. You have to do a risk/reward analysis of this situation. Bangladesh hardly get to play tests overseas and playing a test series in Pakistan will do them a whole lot of good. Australia and England play way too many tests a year and they won't really get much out of a series in Pakistan.

Bangladesh have incentive to tour Pakistan, Australia don't.

 

[Executioner]

No one said that. Stop being a sissy, little victim. You have to do a risk/reward analysis of this situation. Bangladesh hardly get to play tests overseas and playing a test series in Pakistan will do them a whole lot of good. Australia and England play way too many tests a year and they won't really get much out of a series in Pakistan.

Bangladesh have incentive to tour Pakistan, Australia don't.

Bangladesh are already being invited to several countries to play tests. Just this year we have/had series in NZ India SL and SA.

And even if Bangladesh wasn't getting series abroad it shouldn't mean that Bangladesh should tour Pakistan because safety comes first. The reality is PCB doesn't care about us, they just want to use us to show the world that Pakistan is safe. Why else do we have offers of 1 ODI 1 T20I.

Bangladesh will tour when they feel Pakistan is safe. And not because they are being pressurized

 

[Bilal7]

Bangladesh are already being invited to several countries to play tests. Just this year we have/had series in NZ India SL and SA.

And even if Bangladesh wasn't getting series abroad it shouldn't mean that Bangladesh should tour Pakistan because safety comes first. The reality is PCB doesn't care about us, they just want to use us to show the world that Pakistan is safe. Why else do we have offers of 1 ODI 1 T20I.

Bangladesh will tour when they feel Pakistan is safe. And not because they are being pressurized

I'm not saying what Bangladesh should or shouldn't do. I am explaining why the PCB is pressuring them to tour and not Australia, which is what you asked in the OP. One match does not make a series, by the way.

 

[BD-fan]

That has been my point for quite a while now.

I respect PCB's decision to invite us and respect the fact that they are trying their level best to bring cricket back in Pakistan. But its an insult for us when PCB and many Pakistan fans says Bangladesh definitely should tour Pakistan and if not cut all ties with BCB.

What my cause for concern is, why does PCB not show its guts against other nations? PCB have such double standards. Yes I know hypocrisy is a part of the real world, but what PCB will gain by bullying BCB into touring Pakistan?

For starters, I want to see PCB show some guts and invite western teams to tour Pakistan and if they decline, ask them for compensation for the losses incurred due to not touring Pakistan as well as threaten to hold back its players from playing leagues in that particular country. That is a fair world.

This is the part where Pak fans wants to overlook and not hold PCB accountable. Justify all the absurd cries PCB make in this issue.

 

[sshakir411]

Against your theory, here is my logic.

If BCCI's (old one) entire focus was to deprive PAK of hosting cricket then don't you think they could have offered ZIM more money than what PCB offered to them to not tour PAK ? Why did BCCI allowed that to happen? They can easily make ZIM dance to its tune.

BTW I asked for a source as in a link or something but as expected you got none cause you seem to love these home made conspiracy theories way too much.

pretty weird logic tbh...why would a board that drools over every penny give free handouts to Zimbabwe? This is the same board that ditched it's entire stance on not playing Pakistan when PCB agreed to 0 revenue for the bilateral series in 2012-2013. All sentiments of the Indian people were thrown out for some extra cash...it's not like playing Bangladesh didn't make India any money. Also, on the source...i think it's pretty clear that my homemade theory has some truth behind it..I gave you reasons on why I believe that..how about you find me a link where BCCI snakes openly admit to using excuses not to play Pakistan.

 

[Executioner]

I'm not saying what Bangladesh should or shouldn't do. I am explaining why the PCB is pressuring them to tour and not Australia, which is what you asked in the OP. One match does not make a series, by the way.

But why the double standards?

Why does PCB ask us for compensation and also blackmail us regarding withdrawing players from our league.

Okay you dont invite other teams because they aren't likely. But what did BCB do to be bullied by PCB? BCB paid half the profit of the 2015 series to Pakistan if I am not wrong. BCB even sent the women's team to Pakistan.

 

[Bilal7]

But why the double standards?

Why does PCB ask us for compensation and also blackmail us regarding withdrawing players from our league.

Okay you dont invite other teams because they aren't likely. But what did BCB do to be bullied by PCB? BCB paid half the profit of the 2015 series to Pakistan if I am not wrong. BCB even sent the women's team to Pakistan.

Are you seriously asking me again? I told you already, the BCB is the board of a minnow nation and more likely to give into the demands of the PCB.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Because there is a very slight chance that Bangladesh might actually play some matches in Pakistan but there is zero chance that any western country's team visits Pakistan in the next 10 years.

 

[Gr8Gaur]

pretty weird logic tbh...why would a board that drools over every penny give free handouts to Zimbabwe? This is the same board that ditched it's entire stance on not playing Pakistan when PCB agreed to 0 revenue for the bilateral series in 2012-2013. All sentiments of the Indian people were thrown out for some extra cash...it's not like playing Bangladesh didn't make India any money. Also, on the source...i think it's pretty clear that my homemade theory has some truth behind it..I gave you reasons on why I believe that..how about you find me a link where BCCI snakes openly admit to using excuses not to play Pakistan.

And yet the PCB begs to the same BCCI snakes time and again for a series despite all the chest thumping 'we can survive without India'. BTW in 2012-13 the government was a different one and it faced a lot of criticism for that series. And you basically have nothing to prove that BCCI coerced BCB not to play PAK, nothing new.

I don't need to provide any links cause the motive is clear, BCCI is not liable to fill empty PCB coffers. If PCB ain't good enough to earn then better shut the useless board.

 

[Gr8Gaur]

Are you seriously asking me again? I told you already, the BCB is the board of a minnow nation and more likely to give into the demands of the PCB.

So you admit that PCB tries to arm twists the weaker boards , eh? Then how is it any different from ECB, ACB and BCCI ?

 

[sshakir411]

And yet the PCB begs to the same BCCI snakes time and again for a series despite all the chest thumping 'we can survive without India'. BTW in 2012-13 the government was a different one and it faced a lot of criticism for that series. And you basically have nothing to prove that BCCI coerced BCB not to play PAK, nothing new.

I don't need to provide any links cause the motive is clear, BCCI is not liable to fill empty PCB coffers. If PCB ain't good enough to earn then better shut the useless board.

LOL. you Indian cricket fans have a serious delusional thinking problem tbh..or maybe you just make up stuff to make yourself feel better as Indians. Lets get something clear here, PCB does NOT beg BCCI time and time again for a series...but what they do ask BCCI is to honor what was agreed upon in principal. Don't be naive enough to think a change of government is the reason why BCCI hasn't honored what it said it would do because governments change across the world everywhere and so does management. Fact is PCB was promised a deal on which they forecast their future. PCB only harps back to previous agreement and not a new one as you allude to. Fact is BCCI is full of snakes and thinks that by not honoring what they promised they are hurting PCB, which is not true. PCB will go till the end until it gets what was promised, this isn't begging in any part of the world but simple litigation. Maybe Indians need to catch up on how organizations work and what the process is if someone fails to deliver on what they committed to.

You can however continue to think PCB begs BCCI for a series and is struggling financially as a board (LOL). Take a look at PCB's performance over the last decade given its circumstances and see where it stands compared to other cricketing nations. If you really are an objective individual you'll see what I mean.

 

[Gr8Gaur]

LOL. you Indian cricket fans have a serious delusional thinking problem tbh..or maybe you just make up stuff to make yourself feel better as Indians. Lets get something clear here, PCB does NOT beg BCCI time and time again for a series...but what they do ask BCCI is to honor what was agreed upon in principal. Don't be naive enough to think a change of government is the reason why BCCI hasn't honored what it said it would do because governments change across the world everywhere and so does management. Fact is PCB was promised a deal on which they forecast their future. PCB only harps back to previous agreement and not a new one as you allude to. Fact is BCCI is full of snakes and thinks that by not honoring what they promised they are hurting PCB, which is not true. PCB will go till the end until it gets what was promised, this isn't begging in any part of the world but simple litigation. Maybe Indians need to catch up on how organizations work and what the process is if someone fails to deliver on what they committed to.

You can however continue to think PCB begs BCCI for a series and is struggling financially as a board (LOL). Take a look at PCB's performance over the last decade given its circumstances and see where it stands compared to other cricketing nations. If you really are an objective individual you'll see what I mean.

Keep saying that till you actually start believing it. To the whole world, the perception is that PCB begs to BCCI. So much so that even Shahryar Khan felt the need to clarify that 'We're not begging'. LOL! And unlike your lot I'm not making stuff on my own. We Indians talk on facts while everyone knows who live in delusions.

I can even send you the links of 'Dawn' or 'Tribune Pk' where PCB has clarified that they ain't begging. It will be better for you to accept things the way it is. Sugar coating facts won't help you much.

PCB can try as much as it wants but we all know they are not getting anything. Did they got the funds they asked from the ICC, eh ? LOL!

'Maybe Indians need to catch up on how the organization works', LMAO. Really !!! You know what, you should be the last one to lecture us on how organizations work. We all know how wonderful PCB as an organization is. Even if they get what they desperately want they will remain in the same state cause they don't know what 'management' is.

 

[Executioner]

Good time to bump this thread