Why has RCB been a below average performer despite having a star studded line up?

[Moiza]

I have been a very die hard supporter of RCB because of Kohli since 2009 and I have watched almost 95% of the matches till now. If you exclude the performance of 2-3 years RCB has been a pathetic performer and at most times didn't even manage to break into the top 4 despite having such a good squad. What according to you is the reason for such below average performances?

In my opinion, it's their home ground. Rcb already has an average bowling line up but when that bowling line up bowls in the chinaswami the result is as expected, they end up losing matches in which the opposition was chasing 180-190+ scores. Micthell starc has also been treated badly at the chinaswami, I pity the average bowlers who have to bowl there.

If you don't watch the IPL then please don't enlighten me. No, I dont feel ashamed watching the IPL, I'll watch any league as long as the sport being played is cricket.

 

[Taaya]

Kohli has been out of touch since the start of the Australian test series - I imagine this plays a significant role in their struggles.

 

[Sachin136]

They have done badly with the bat recently, but usually, it is their bowling that lets them down. They need to get some good indian bowlers apart from Chahal next year.

 

[Moiza]

Kohli has been out of touch since the start of the Australian test series - I imagine this plays a significant role in their struggles.

Even in seasons where they've consistently broken the 180 run barrier, they've lost a lot of games.

 

[Sports_Psychologist]

1 Kohli's form isnt supprting him..
2 ABD after injury hasnt done anything substantial, getting old i guess..
3 Chris Gayle.. Any team dependent on him will lose 9 out of 10 matches
4 non performing local India talent.. Batting and Bowling both....

 

[pakistani pride]

Perhaps drop the over the hill unfit opener as a start?

Gayle is waaaayyyy past it.

 

[bleaf27]

Quite a mystery to me as well
1) Lack of ownership ? Most other IPL teams have owners who stand proudly behind their team - RCB after Mallya debacle lost that anchor.
2) Support Staff - Mumbai Indians have Sachin , Ponting , Malinga , Robin Singh , Jonty - quite an amazing staff to guide the youngsters. SRH have Tom Moody , - I am not sure who's on the bench for RCB
3) Stars aren't necessarily good leaders - Lack of leadership - Kohli even despite being an immensely good player does not seem to have good leadership skills.

 

[BD-fan]

Bunch of great individuals don't make a team.

The team need to pull for one another not upend one another.

The Universe boss plays for himself and had style of cricket (spectators becomes fielders and fielders become spectators and no running between the wickets) is hurting the team. T20 has evolved from Swing and miss to strategic warfare. Bangalore has been left behind because of the players approach. Plus their bowling is crap.

 

[pakistani pride]

Bunch of great individuals don't make a team.

The team need to pull for one another not upend one another.

The Universe boss plays for himself and had style of cricket (spectators becomes fielders and fielders become spectators and no running between the wickets) is hurting the team. T20 has evolved from Swing and miss to strategic warfare. Bangalore has been left behind because of the players approach. Plus their bowling is crap.

The gayle logic is not valid anymore. He cant hit anymore like he used to.

He really struggles big time.

 

[Moiza]

Quite a mystery to me as well
1) Lack of ownership ? Most other IPL teams have owners who stand proudly behind their team - RCB after Mallya debacle lost that anchor.
2) Support Staff - Mumbai Indians have Sachin , Ponting , Malinga , Robin Singh , Jonty - quite an amazing staff to guide the youngsters. SRH have Tom Moody , - I am not sure who's on the bench for RCB
3) Stars aren't necessarily good leaders - Lack of leadership - Kohli even despite being an immensely good player does not seem to have good leadership skills.

Very good points made, especially the first two points.

 

[kingusama92]

Injuries.

De Villiers was injured. Kohli came in injured. Starc is out.

They were never able to get into form like they have in the past. It takes time to gel and things have been wonky with RCB.

 

[bleaf27]

Very good points made, especially the first two points.

Well when I see the team chemistry - like Sunrisers have their own channel on youtube and they have team bonding sessions and all the players get along like fire. RCB players have a big gulf - either they have superstars Like Kohli and Gayle or young inexperienced Indian uncapped players - so I do not see much team bonding in there.

 

[big_gamer007]

I might be wrong by RCB historically have relied on one or two players performing to win matches. Earlier it used to be Gayle, Starc, Kohli, ABD, Ross Taylor? but this season none of their star players have performed, Gayle and ABD are not consistent and aging, Kohli seems to be not in the form like he was last season. Sometimes it happens.

Remember Deccan chargers had the most Decked up lineup any team has ever had in the first season of IPL and they managed only 2 wins IIRC. Just couldn't click that season same seems to be the case with RCB this season.

 

[RamLakhan]

Kohli should not open (it would have been so nice if Rahul was playing!) Anyhow T20 is a team game where almost each players plays a crucial role! Because even best batsmen will urge to play a risky shot every now and then, and even bowlers will tend to try too hard. In ODIs/Tests the players will try to act more responsibly and shield the team, but here that very method can actually affect the team's cause! So in T20, all 11 players should be on the toe. Which only means that you don't need to go for 2 to 3 top gun players & rest of them are duds! You need to build a team and if the top guns are part of it then its fine (you will get them anyhow through auction model)!

RCB has no chance in this season as well. But at least they can save their face if they do some tweaking in their strategy. Kohli should come at No.3, try some other opener as anyhow wickets are lost somehow in the initial overs. Play extra batsman (I don't think they have proper extra batsmen among Indians!) Decide between Gayle and Head firmly at once!

 

[subbu]

Generally RCB has done well in group stages choked in knock out games ( like south africa )

couple of times they have reached finals and lost.

but this time its a disaster... kohli out of form . ABD not scoring, Gayle ( 1 out of 10 games earlier it was 3 out of 10 games)

 

[subbu]

they missed Rahul and safaraz khan current local batsmen mandeep and other are not fit for T20

 

[aniket1911]

To be honest, RCB has always been Kohli, gayle, Abd, starc and chahal dependent team, they need at least 2 or 3 of these players to click together to win matches, which unfortunately is not happening this season.

 

[big_gamer007]

105 runs in 6 overs!! KKR vs RCB

Has anyone ever seen such pathetic bowling in a competitive match?? Getting spanked by narine of all people..

No plan keep over pitching pitching the bowl, giving batsman to open arms.. For a team loaded with talent on and off the field this has the to be worst display ever including the time they got out for 48 few week ago..

 

[shaz619]

Has anyone ever seen such pathetic bowling in a competitive match?? Getting spanked by narine of all people..

No plan keep over pitching pitching the bowl, giving batsman to open arms.. For a team loaded with talent on and off the field this has the to be worst display ever including the time they got out for 48 few week ago..

KKR are that damn good

Need to watch highlights of Narines knock, RCB have Badree he got smashed a bit but the others probably are very average talents

 

[Smbhayi]

well, Narine was batted really well in this tournament tbh.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

RCB's bowling has been pretty poor throughout the tournament.

 

[aniket1911]

Why don't teams try this anymore. Send pinch hitters upfront to go have merry while they can.

Lynnsanity and narine are complimenting each other so well. would love to see same in international cricket as well.

 

[big_gamer007]

KKR are that damn good

Need to watch highlights of Narines knock, RCB have Badree he got smashed a bit but the others probably are very average talents

I know KKR are good but those two Indian bowlers Chaudhary and the other one reminded me of the days of Doda Ganesh, Abey Kuruvilla, Prasad etc..

And then badree was supposed to be a smart T20 bowler he bowled 3 deliveries overpitches outside off stump and was hit by narine for three consecutive sixes which kick started narine'S innings.. you would have thought a player like badree won't commit the same mistake thrice in a row..

This season for RCB is like 1995 for WWF when diesel was the champion..

 

[shaz619]

I know KKR are good but those two Indian bowlers Chaudhary and the other one reminded me of the days of Doda Ganesh, Abey Kuruvilla, Prasad etc..

And then badree was supposed to be a smart T20 bowler he bowled 3 deliveries overpitches outside off stump and was hit by narine for three consecutive sixes which kick started narine'S innings.. you would have thought a player like badree won't commit the same mistake thrice in a row..

This season for RCB is like 1995 for WWF when diesel was the champion..

Badree has been ranked the no.1 T20 bowler in the world many a time, RCB have not fired on all cylinders despite their star studded line up. The team is like the South Africa of IPL, when every you see them you start singing the chokey chokey chokey song. Those bowlers are not great but am not sure what the talent pool is like tbh Diesel gets a bit too much stick for my liking the reign coincided with a low financial point, but he delivered some great performances

 

[Hasan123]

Lynn and Narine are dangerous players but garbage bowling from rcb. They have been awful this year.

 

[light]

All 3 of their star batsmen are out of form hence the dive down the points table. Last year, Virat was in prime form, he won a lot of matches for RCB. Gayle is a one hit wonder these days and AB is definitely out of form in this season of IPL. Plus their bowlers sucks!

Teams like SRH, MI and KKR does not have the star power like RCB does but have team work going on for them. RCB is a one man show or nothing.

 

[Thomaskutty]

I've lost interest in RCB. Five of their players are paid a million dollars each for 2 months work and all have 5 have flopped. How embarrassing.
On the the other hand , the evolution of Stokes into a solid all-rounder has been interesting to watch.

 

[Slog]

How did tymal mills do.

Seems like he hasn't been playing in recent weeks.

I was surprised when he was paid a lot of money because to he seemed good but def no world class operator

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Perhaps it's because the matches, and the tournament in general is just a bit of fun and no one takes it seriously anymore and the players can't get motivated for it. After all, they get their salary regardless of the results.

Also who even remembers who won the IPL say 3 years ago, or who came bottom say 7 years ago. Most people would have to google that such is the stature of these leagues.

The whole thing is turning into a bit of a farce - in fact all of these leagues are. There is so much domestic T20 cricket played that it just dilutes the importance of every match.

Don't get me wrong I still watch some of it - but its all becoming a bit 'meh' and perhaps this feeling is brushing off on the players.

A similar thing happened with Kings XI Punjab a season or two ago - one season they were amazing and the next they were diabolical.

 

[amvbfm]

Perhaps it's because the matches, and the tournament in general is just a bit of fun and no one takes it seriously anymore and the players can't get motivated for it. After all, they get their salary regardless of the results.

Also who even remembers who won the IPL say 3 years ago, or who came bottom say 7 years ago. Most people would have to google that such is the stature of these leagues.

The whole thing is turning into a bit of a farce - in fact all of these leagues are. There is so much domestic T20 cricket played that it just dilutes the importance of every match.

Don't get me wrong I still watch some of it - but its all becoming a bit 'meh' and perhaps this feeling is brushing off on the players.

A similar thing happened with Kings XI Punjab a season or two ago - one season they were amazing and the next they were diabolical.

Agree with you. A lot of the big name players, either out of apathy or tiredness do not give their 100%. They know they will get the money regardless. Moreover, unlike international cricket, these players feel little connection or affiliation with these domestic teams. And then there is the hit or miss nature of the T20 game itself. It is very difficult to perform on a consistent basis across seasons in this format.

The one good thing about these tournaments are the young players. And that is where the Boards need to focus. Rather than giving all the spotlight to big name players they should focus on the younger talent (also viable from a business pov. Younger uncapped players invariably give more bang for buck as compared to T20 stars). Talented players like Nitsh Rana and Rahul Tripathi have come out of nowhere this season.

Regarding RCB, to me it seems the main mistake made by a lot of franchises is the way they make up their teams. Rather than first picking local players to form the core of the team and then filling the gaps with relevant foreign stars, teams first pick star players based on their reputation and then choose locals which results in unbalanced sides like RCB.

 

[Hari Sombar]

They think they are all Gods. This season especially, they are trying to hit from ball one, playing silly shots in situations that do not require it. They have not given themselves time to get in and build their innings.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

They think they are all Gods. This season especially, they are trying to hit from ball one, playing silly shots in situations that do not require it. They have not given themselves time to get in and build their innings.

Not sure about Kohli and ABD but Gayle sure has god complex. All that Universe Boss crap has gotten into his head and his batting has turned **** since 2015. RCB should put Gayle on auction next year, the dude's a useless slab of ego now

 

[Rightarmfast]

I have been a very die hard supporter of RCB because of Kohli since 2009 and I have watched almost 95% of the matches till now. If you exclude the performance of 2-3 years RCB has been a pathetic performer and at most times didn't even manage to break into the top 4 despite having such a good squad. What according to you is the reason for such below average performances?

In my opinion, it's their home ground. Rcb already has an average bowling line up but when that bowling line up bowls in the chinaswami the result is as expected, they end up losing matches in which the opposition was chasing 180-190+ scores. Micthell starc has also been treated badly at the chinaswami, I pity the average bowlers who have to bowl there.

If you don't watch the IPL then please don't enlighten me. No, I dont feel ashamed watching the IPL, I'll watch any league as long as the sport being played is cricket.

I supppose the team isnt getting enough Dosa and Sambhar these days. That could be the only reason or perhaps kingfisher!

But hey, I am in Bangalore and live pretty close to Chinnaswamy. I didnt know we had RCB fans in Pakistan. If you ever plan on coming for IPL, I would love to host you You are most welcome

 

[Chrish]

Need better workload management

 

[pakistani pride]

Chris Gayle has been pathetic for a while now. Take out that 70 odd score and averages 12 with sr of 85!

He will not get any better. Just playing on but he is game over.

 

[idrizzy]

Because your bowling is worse than Zimbabwe's and your batting keeps on getting reshuffled and fails regardless who plays.

 

[Zak_Fan]

How did tymal mills do.

Seems like he hasn't been playing in recent weeks.

I was surprised when he was paid a lot of money because to he seemed good but def no world class operator

Maybe that's the reason. I think every year they end up overpaying a couple of mediocre/untested players so that fans look forward to more such shockers in the future, turning the auctions into a much anticipated event.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

RCB embarrassing themselves again this season.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Kohli is such a loser captain. He shouldn't be captaining INdia at all. Rohit should be.

 

[volcyz]

Cos they have useless players such as Grandhomme in the team

 

[kingusama92]

No team chemistry this time around.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Kohli is a rubbish captain who cant inspire his team to success. He will not win any trophy for India either. But he is such a big name that neither BCCI nor RCB can replace him as a skipper. We have always heard the phrase no player is bigger than the sport but its not true for Kohli. He is actually bigger than Indian cricket itself. In an ideal world, Rohit Sharma is 10 times the captain Kohli is and should be our LOI skipper.

 

[Ertugrul_Bey]

Lahore of IPL ...

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Yet another loss.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

And another, what a pathetic side. Crap batting, bowling, wicketkeeping and fielding.

And what some of their players are getting paid per season for all of this.

Kohli $2.4 million;
ABDV $1.5 million;
Chahal $835k;
Dube $696k;
Umesh $584k;
Hetmyer $557k;
Nath $501k;
Sundar $445k;
Saini $417k
Siraj $362k;
Grandhomme $306k;
Moeen $237k;

 

[Swashbuckler]

No synergy in the team., maybe owners and coaches also need to take some blame.
Kohli is a poor T20 captain, not only tactically but also because of his dominating, angry persona which sours team spirit.
Pathetic team composition, they let Rahul and Gayle go so that Kohli, AB could get extra money. Bowling is pathetic for their home ground.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Kohli is the worst captain ever as far as grooming players is concerned, same people go to other franchises and play so freely.

 

[harasraja]

Due to not having a settled opening pair. Infact they dont have 1 top notch specialist opening batsmen in their squad.

Due to the failure of the openers the burden has become too big on ab and kohli and they are failing to handle that.

 

[JattMaula]

What star studded line up?

The 2 players they rely on most are the certified A grade chokers who have not anything in their cricketing career.

Universe boss, the only real champ they had was discarded like used tissue. They deserve this humiliation.

 

[khan_aa]

well, they are individuals, not a team.

compare them with QG that won PSL, no big stars, yet they won easily (i know its not the same competition). Its because Sarfraz got the best out of a medicore team, Kohli couldnt.

 

[introvert]

Their bowling is always trash & this season their batting is also inconsistent.

 

[unemployedgm]

RCB has consistently failed to play at a high level because they don't know the difference between a Genuine All Rounder, a Batting All Rounder, and a Bowling All Rounder. They also don't know how to construct a T20 lineup. Put these two things together and you have a disaster on your hands.

 

[iPakistani]

Captain is the problem, 8 consecutive defeats for the GOAT. 2 with India and now 6 with RCB.