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Why Indians feel the heat for attacks on Israel despite not being part of their Ummah?

Devadwal said:
I know and I support the Congress view as well. But seriously I fade of Pakistan posters when they bring india , hindutva etc in every Thread.

My views has changed since then . :kp
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Need to get rid of negative influences man...a particular indian poster has radicalized you
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Unleashing of unabated atrocities on Kashmiris or the people in sister states of India doesn't make the Hindutva supporters feel any unease at all. But in contrast, particular Indians who doesn't deem themselves liberal get so much panicked for attacks in Israel knowing very well the role of their government in Gaza genocide and mass killing across the reason.

So what is the plausible explanation for this inexplicably sympathy for the aggressors?
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Varsha explains it here and as usual she is getting rape threats from Hindus for this clip...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1936885349927559360
 
I used to admire Israel growing up. But I have changed my attitude over time and have grown to be extremely suspicious of the outrageous behind-the-scenes control they wield over the world, particularly the West.
 
Devadwal said:
A tinny Isreal is humiliating 57 Muslim Ummah nation's .wow

After 100s year when people's telling the story that a small Isreal humiliated Ummah nation's , no one Will believed it . How can this possible but that is the reality of the Isreal . Isreal is something else.

:kp
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Israel wouldn't have been able to exist or do anything much without the active support of the US. But to their credit, they have managed to populate the power seats of the US with their guys or at least people they can handle. It's not something admirable, but in the context of politics, an astounding achievement.
 
pillionrider said:
I used to admire Israel growing up. But I have changed my attitude over time and have grown to be extremely suspicious of the outrageous behind-the-scenes control they wield over the world, particularly the West.
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I agree about some of the string-pulling but all of it arises from an existential angst that Israel has. About a dozen or more countries in the Greater Middle East don't recognise the state of Israel.. and very likely due to antisemitism.

This is the root cause.
 
pillionrider said:
I used to admire Israel growing up. But I have changed my attitude over time and have grown to be extremely suspicious of the outrageous behind-the-scenes control they wield over the world, particularly the West.
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Only thing I admire is their army training after school and scientific pedigree of Israeli Jews.

Their monetary system is terrible and meant to serve only them along with all the propaganda, also orthodox Jews hate non-abrahamic religions, the other jews are alright and probably pro India in some cases.
 
RexRex said:
I agree about some of the string-pulling but all of it arises from an existential angst that Israel has. About a dozen or more countries in the Greater Middle East don't recognise the state of Israel.. and very likely due to antisemitism.

This is the root cause.
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Yes and No, I used to think Greater Israel project is a joke and in 2005 it did seem like it was exaggerated but not anymore.
They have become inhumane.
 
RexRex said:
I agree about some of the string-pulling but all of it arises from an existential angst that Israel has. About a dozen or more countries in the Greater Middle East don't recognise the state of Israel.. and very likely due to antisemitism.

This is the root cause.
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The root cause has always been ethnic cleansing and genocide. The vast majority of people around the world and almost all from the global south, excluding politicians, who are fully aware but choose to turn a blind eye, have recognized this reality.
 
RexRex said:
I agree about some of the string-pulling but all of it arises from an existential angst that Israel has. About a dozen or more countries in the Greater Middle East don't recognise the state of Israel.. and very likely due to antisemitism.

This is the root cause.
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Please educate and inform yourself before posting.
 
pillionrider said:
Israel wouldn't have been able to exist or do anything much without the active support of the US. But to their credit, they have managed to populate the power seats of the US with their guys or at least people they can handle. It's not something admirable, but in the context of politics, an astounding achievement.
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israel must serve some purpose for the US, I think I would believe that narrative rather than the one where the US is israel's plaything. American public might be dumb, but their leaders are generally more far sighted.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
israel must serve some purpose for the US, I think I would believe that narrative rather than the one where the US is israel's plaything. American public might be dumb, but their leaders are generally more far sighted.
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I would had believed that as well, but then I saw rhe Aid given to Israel by US and I’m like I dunno anymore who pulls the damn strings.


United States Spending on Israel’s Military Operations and Related U.S. Operations in the Region, October 7, 2023-September 30, 2024 | Costs of War

The Costs of War Project is a team of 35 scholars, legal experts, human rights practitioners, and physicians, which began its work in 2011. We use research and a public website to facilitate debate about the costs of the post-9/11 wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.
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What you are talking about is more to do with Egypt than Israel
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
israel must serve some purpose for the US, I think I would believe that narrative rather than the one where the US is israel's plaything. American public might be dumb, but their leaders are generally more far sighted.
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True. The US has needed to poke its nose everywhere and having Israel was one way of keeping a watch on the region. But it seems like Israel have managed to lull them into complacency while exaggerating their say in policy.
 
pillionrider said:
True. The US has needed to poke its nose everywhere and having Israel was one way of keeping a watch on the region. But it seems like Israel have managed to lull them into complacency while exaggerating their say in policy.
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Trump was elected because the public was fed up of seeing American wealth being spent on foreign ventures on behalf of nations halfway across the world. The Jewish lobby must have endless tentacles if they can keep churning out this narrative even when the MAGA leader is sitting at the pinnacle.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Trump was elected because the public was fed up of seeing American wealth being spent on foreign ventures on behalf of nations halfway across the world. The Jewish lobby must have endless tentacles if they can keep churning out this narrative even when the MAGA leader is sitting at the pinnacle.
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Well, MAGA is currently split now with the majority being like Modi bhakts, refusing to see anything wrong ever with Trump. But there is a significant loud voice that has emerged who consider Trump to be Israeli-influenced and aren't happy with it. I lean more towards their thoughts, which I'm exposed to a lot because I am quite deep in crypto and a disproportionate number of Americans in crypto tend to be MAGA.
 
Bcos Israel is a victim of terrorism..it's a peaceful country surrounded by hostile enemies...who wage countless wars and commit terror attacks on Israel..it's a different matter that Israel always inflicts more pain on the aggressors
 
Just a ghulam quom, a heritage passed on through generations through their ancestors. It's a built in feature in Sanghis
 
HalBass9 said:
The root cause has always been ethnic cleansing and genocide. The vast majority of people around the world and almost all from the global south, excluding politicians, who are fully aware but choose to turn a blind eye, have recognized this reality.
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The root cause is Israel's dozen arab neighbours refusing to acknowledge its existence.
 
Other then the shared Zionism, and insecurity I think the Indians also admire Israel for the massive power they yeald despite having a population of around 10m people.
 
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Cpt. Rishwat said:
You are the one criticising Arab refusal to accept a foreign state planted into their midst by western imperialists.
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So ? I am not allowed to have an opinion now ? What's the point of a message board ?

That is your twisted definition of the Israel state btw, not mine. Most normal people would accept a peace treaty and move on like Egypt did with Israel in 1980. Iran is ruled by islamist theocrats so no peace possible.
 
RexRex said:
So ? I am not allowed to have an opinion now ? What's the point of a message board ?

That is your definition of the Israel state btw, not mine. Most normal people would accept a peace treaty and move on like Egypt did with Israel in 1980. Iran is ruled by islamist theocrats so no peace possible.
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You are allowed an opinion, that is why you are here giving it. I am allowed to comment on your opinion and give some context to it.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
You are allowed an opinion, that is why you are here giving it. I am allowed to comment on your opinion and give some context to it.
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You said to me 'what does India have to do with it', which basically implies 'mind your own business.

Seems like india opinions can upset you easily.
 
RexRex said:
Not that I'm throwing in the towel but there's still 4 tests left..
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You a shariff guy. I like you as a poster. Just dont associate yourself with trolls next time.

Realise that not everything a Pakistani poster especially one 2 potw's and 26K comments, is trollish.

I bring a perspective to this game that you don't. Similarly you bring forth a perspective that id like to learn from.

Now cheers and think 2x before you disrespect someone, when I say its a flat pitch, it means it is flat and jaiswal + pant did jiggly squat.
 
mominsaigol said:
You a shariff guy. I like you as a poster. Just dont associate yourself with trolls next time.
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I'll associate myself with whoever I want. Even indian trolls can occasionally speak the truth.

PS - I don't recall calling you a troll/
 
RexRex said:
I'll associate myself with whoever I want. Even indian trolls can occasionally speak the truth.

PS - I don't recall calling you a troll/
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Even indian trolls can occasionally speak the truth.

No they cant, that would defeat the purpose of trolling :vk2
 
RexRex said:
You said to me 'what does India have to do with it', which basically implies 'mind your own business.

Seems like india opinions can upset you easily.
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How it seems to you is not my concern. I was just correcting your view that Arabs were at fault for not accepting a zionist state thrust into their midst by western imperialists.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I was just correcting your view that Arabs were at fault for not accepting a zionist state thrust into their midst by western imperialists.
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No, that's not what you were doing and you know it.

Your inital exact quote - " But what has that got to do with Indians? "

Indians opining on this istrael topic greatly upsets you and a lot of people and I think that is hilarious. Pakistanis, on the other hand, think they have skin in the game for some reason lol. Must be the sacred Ummah.
 
RexRex said:
No, that's not what you were doing and you know it.

Your inital exact quote - " But what has that got to do with Indians? "

Indians opining on this topic greatly upsets you and a lot of people and I think that is hilarious. Pakistanis, on the other hand, think they have skin in the game for some reason lol. Must be the sacred Ummah.
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I haven't been on PP for a few days so I open a thread about Indians siding with israel despite not being part of their Ummah and come to your post where you are blaming Arabs for not accepting a zionihilist state being inflicted on them by western imperialism. You are Indian. Join the dots.

Pakistanis don't have "skin in the game" but they are part of the Muslim brotherhood so they will have empathy with the Muslims no doubt. But only if the Muslims are the ones being wronged, and in the case of israel, most agree they are the aggressors.
 
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