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Why is Pakistan a less 'selling' brand in Test Cricket?

Rafay Shafiq

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Since last few years, it has been observed that Pakistan Test team, despite decent record, is not exciting options for the countries to host. Apparently, Australia, South Africa, England and NZ host Pakistan after long periods.

Why Pakistan Test team is not attractive for hosts? Despite it remains number one
 
Be honest, would you pay to watch an opponent team with explosive batsmen like Azhar Ali, Misbah Ul Haq, Younis Khan, Asad Shafiq, Ahmad Shahzad and a below average bowling line up ?
 
Be honest, would you pay to watch an opponent team with explosive batsmen like Azhar Ali, Misbah Ul Haq, Younis Khan, Asad Shafiq, Ahmad Shahzad and a below average bowling line up ?

Lord's twice recorded its record crowd for a day of Test cricket last summer for the first Test between England and Pakistan, so clearly people did want to watch us.
 
Lack of star quality and the poor reputation of the country.
 
Pakistan was a attraction because of good fast bowlers, when you have them again the red carpet in London / Perth n Durban will be rolled out....

You will never be a attraction if you have good spinners and good defensive test batsman, that's just being another India.
 
May be that in stadium, one enjoy batting or fast bowling from far stands, but Pakistan rely on spinners
 
Pakistan needs dynamic players like Umar Akmal in the side. Not the tuk tuk grinders like Shafiq and Azhar.
 
Boring batsmen, wayward trundlers and a spinner who is useless outside his comfort zone. Not much to look forward to in this Pakistani team.
 
Boring batsmen, wayward trundlers and a spinner who is useless outside his comfort zone. Not much to look forward to in this Pakistani team.

Now this is jealous neighbor right there, i know we suck but not this much.
 
This is because the general interest in test cricket in Pakistan is less than that of the LOI formats.
 
Because PCB has thick tank when u yourself cut Test matches to add pyjama games then how your 5 day product could be sold #Austour2014
 
Not to sure why Cricket South Africa does not arrange test matches in South Africa against Pakistan. Pakistan is very popular with the Muslims over here just like India gets a huge local support from hindu desis
 
Boring batsmen, wayward trundlers and a spinner who is useless outside his comfort zone. Not much to look forward to in this Pakistani team.

Damn thanks for that. That's the most accurate description of the Indian team I've heard yet (apart from the batsmen). And it comes from an Indian
 
This may be hard to swallow .... but we are just not as good as we think .... just look at our rankings !!!!!!!!!!!
 
Who the hell wants to watch Azhar, Misbah, Younis, Asad bat? Watching cricket being played in UAE is enough torture, watching these snails on top, I'd rather take a freaking nap.

I only tune in to watch Babar, Sarfaraz, the tail and our bowling.
 
Partly because our players are always in some sort of bother and the PCB is so very disorganised. It doesn't help that hardly any of our players speak good quality English. All this means Pak Cricket has a rather poor image.
 
Damn thanks for that. That's the most accurate description of the Indian team I've heard yet (apart from the batsmen). And it comes from an Indian
Vijay, Pujara and Saha are always boring. Rahul and Rahane are sometimes too.

Only Kohli is entertaining in that team.
 
Sells well in England IMO ,doesn't in Aus and SA for obvious reasons although the 2007 SA tour was interesting with Asif,Inzi,Younis,Shoaib getting a test victory.

If Akhtar played more in that series,you never know could had been much closer, somehow that team of Pak looked so much stronger and dynamic compared to the current team eventhough current one actually achieved the 1st rank.
Hopefully its not nostalgia.
 
Only 2 reason - lack of a star & UAE venue.

I can explain with essays, but probably everyone do know the explanation. To dig in deep, one should send Amir & Butt (2 Butt actually) to firing squad for this thread today.
 
LOL at the reasons. As if India is so strong away from home. Never won a series in aus or sa.

This has nothing to do with so called star power. Give me a break.
 
ODIs - Flawed ultra defensive batsmen and mediocre bowling. Wahab has fire in him but he is too too expensive. A battery of darters who are always playing skip rope with the rules of the game doesn't help either. I'd try getting a glimpse only for the comical fielding.

Tests - Your batsmen can bore anyone to death. The unpredictability (chases high totals in 4th innings, draws series in England, collapses in NZ, shows a bit of mettle initially in Aus then capitulates, loses 2 tests to a minnow) does generate interest though. Plus you have a once in generation leg spinner.
 
Batting approach is outdated. No body wants to see a team bat at less than 2 run rate. Cricket has evolved.
 
Playing in the UAE doesn't often make for entertaining cricket, who wants to see a team go at 2 runs an over for 100 plus overs?

Another reason is PCB themselves don't even take test cricket seriously, the West Indies test series was originally supposed to be a 4 game series, but it was reduced to 3. PCB often have 2 tests instead of having 3. If your not going to take it seriously, why should your opposition take you seriously?


Also lack of star quality doesn't help.
 
I am not gonna lie, but whenever I see Pakistan, it's not even funny how boring their batting looks. The sooner Pakistan realise that attritional brand of cricket doesn't sell even if it bear results the better.

And lack of superstars is also a big worry. I don't know how much it holds true but in sub continent heroes are forged in ODI cricket and people flock in to see if they as good in tougher form of cricket as well, Test cricket that is. If you don't have swagger in LOI, nobody cares how much you do in test cricket unless you are truly exceptional in that format. That's one of reason why Pujara is still a nobody in overall scene in India despite being one of India's best Test batsman.
 
Play this 11. People would pay, to watch.
You nees some stars.

1.Sami
2.Azhar(Star)
3.Babar
4.Akmal(Star)
5.Shafiq
6.Sarfraz(Star)
7.Afridi(5th bowler)(Super duper star)
8.Yasir(Star)
9.Amir(Super Star)
10.Asif(Super Star)
11.Yasir Jan(Ambidextrous, so Super star)
 
Play this 11. People would pay, to watch.
You nees some stars.

1.Sami
2.Azhar(Star)
3.Babar
4.Akmal(Star)
5.Shafiq
6.Sarfraz(Star)
7.Afridi(5th bowler)(Super duper star)
8.Yasir(Star)
9.Amir(Super Star)
10.Asif(Super Star)
11.Yasir Jan(Ambidextrous, so Super star)

Of course people would pay to watch Umaṛ's mindless slogging over Babar's batting.
 
I'd rather watch paint dry than watch the likes of Shehzad and Shafiq bat. Not enough dynamic batsmen.
 
LOL at the reasons. As if India is so strong away from home. Never won a series in aus or sa.

This has nothing to do with so called star power. Give me a break.

Drew serieses there. Has other Asian teams done that?
 
Very few head-turning players and matchwinners.

Those who have potential in this regard end up selling their country and themselves.
 
No, Indian batting almost always stands out. Sharma ji too comes up with occasional awe-inspiring spells.

If you exclude Kohli, India is the most boring team to watch with players like Pujara,Vijay, Rahane, Ashwin, Jadeja, etc who completely lack any sort of charisma.
 
No star quality tbh.

Plus historically there's always a risk of some sort of baggage with the team.
 
If you exclude Kohli, India is the most boring team to watch with players like Pujara,Vijay, Rahane, Ashwin, Jadeja, etc who completely lack any sort of charisma.

Aur Pakistan main charismatic kaun hai, Asad Shafiq?
 
dont have those type of players u could market like an Afridi as being exciting and entertaining. Our best bats in Tests were Test specialists like YK and Misbah and now Azhar.

Outside our forums of cricket connoiseurs the general awam just doesn't connect with Test cricket or have an affinity for it. Pre Misbah era most Pak fans didnt give a damn about Test bar the hardcore purists and LOI was our bread and butter due to our history of producing flair players and attacking batsmen and bowlers that suited LOIs. Since we have now started to produce meeker batsmen our ODI team.has decline a lot.
LOIs will always be more popular in the subcontinent. Everyone remembers Paks legendary 92 WC win but hardly anyone remembers I.Ks Pak drawing 1-1 in WI against an ATG WI side.
 
2010 put off a lot of sponsors especially after Adidas was one of the sponsors of the trio.

Major sporting brands don't go anywhere near Pakistani cricketers.
 
The whole premise of this thread is wrong.

Pakistan's tour of England ten months ago sold huge numbers of tickets.

Their tour of Australia saw record non-Ashes attendances at Brisbane and at Sydney, as well as very high TV ratings.

And that with a boring team using negative tactics and playing an extra batsman instead of a fifth bowler.

The key now is to turn the page on the past and pick a young team to develop. Get rid of every Test player over 30 apart from Azhar and Sarfraz.

The very acts of, for example:

Shadab Khan instead of Yasir Shah
Hasan Ali instead of Sohail Khan
Sami Aslam instead of Salman Butt
Babar Azam instead of Mohammad Hafeez

.....speak volumes for looking forwards, not backwards.

The harshest exclusions would be Yasir Shah and Asad Shafiq, but it is an investment in the future.
 
The whole premise of this thread is wrong.

Pakistan's tour of England ten months ago sold huge numbers of tickets.

Their tour of Australia saw record non-Ashes attendances at Brisbane and at Sydney, as well as very high TV ratings.

And that with a boring team using negative tactics and playing an extra batsman instead of a fifth bowler.

The key now is to turn the page on the past and pick a young team to develop. Get rid of every Test player over 30 apart from Azhar and Sarfraz.

The very acts of, for example:

Shadab Khan instead of Yasir Shah
Hasan Ali instead of Sohail Khan
Sami Aslam instead of Salman Butt
Babar Azam instead of Mohammad Hafeez

.....speak volumes for looking forwards, not backwards.

The harshest exclusions would be Yasir Shah and Asad Shafiq, but it is an investment in the future.

Does not make any sense to drop Yasir for Shadab. Yasir has good 5 to 6 years left in him easily.
 
Does not make any sense to drop Yasir for Shadab. Yasir has good 5 to 6 years left in him easily.
Okay, but if you keep Yasir Shah then you have to choose between dropping Azhar Ali or dropping Sarfraz Ahmed.

You simply cannot put more than two players over thirty in a Test team. If you do, the team ages and declines together.

I agree with what Mickey Arthur wrote in his book. You need a constant conveyer belt in a team, with the oldest player dropped forever when he reaches 33 years of age, and replaced by someone under 25.

That way the team cannot age together, and the future should simply always be here and now.
 
Okay, but if you keep Yasir Shah then you have to choose between dropping Azhar Ali or dropping Sarfraz Ahmed.

You simply cannot put more than two players over thirty in a Test team. If you do, the team ages and declines together.

I agree with what Mickey Arthur wrote in his book. You need a constant conveyer belt in a team, with the oldest player dropped forever when he reaches 33 years of age, and replaced by someone under 25.

That way the team cannot age together, and the future should simply always be here and now.

I would rather drop Sarfraz than Azhar or Yasir in tests.

Specially Yasir without whom Pakistan can't even beat WI.
 
Good question, these are the key reasons

1) No superstar- None. Most people outside Pakistan don't know the new players, who haven't done anything noteworthy either.

2) Terrorism- Pakistan's name has been tarnished and people simply are not interested in anything that has to do with terrorism. Most major countries are now victim of terror attacks and Pakistan often gets blame for exporting terror (whether that's right or wrong is another case)

3) Lack of matches with India- India has by the the most vocal media regarding cricket and Pakistan would've been more publicized if there was matches with India. Since Pak and India didn't have a bilateral series since 2012, many people in India don't even know about the new players. Hard to hype something when you don't know what to expect.

4) Ban of matches in Pakistan- Somewhat related to no.2 point, people take matches in UAE much, much less seriously and there's no context behind Pakistan visiting abroad. Being whitewashed in UAE doesn't bother anybody since nobody watched it, so nobody cares about their team taking revenge on Pak for loss in UAE
 
Just a note about the no superstar thing, superstars are made at home. Shafiq and azhar would be big stars if we were playing at home often enough. Hassan and shadab would be stars overnight if we were playing at home. Cricket writers and media notice when 50k people turn up just to see certain players. INMHO we were always seen as a problem by certain cricketing quarters because we stood up against the might of the MCC and the aus cricket board. Therefore when the bcci turned its back on us and essentially used cricket for politics we were always going to be in trouble.

so what to do? we need to get cricket back in pakistan..we need it there regularly or this will continue.
 
Just a note about the no superstar thing, superstars are made at home. Shafiq and azhar would be big stars if we were playing at home often enough. Hassan and shadab would be stars overnight if we were playing at home. Cricket writers and media notice when 50k people turn up just to see certain players. INMHO we were always seen as a problem by certain cricketing quarters because we stood up against the might of the MCC and the aus cricket board. Therefore when the bcci turned its back on us and essentially used cricket for politics we were always going to be in trouble.

so what to do? we need to get cricket back in pakistan..we need it there regularly or this will continue.

2 huge incorrect assumptions

1. How many people were showing up for test matches in Pakistan when they were being held. I remember watching many Indo Pak tests with very few spectators. So, thats a complete myth. AB De Villiers is a super star. What has his home feats got to do with how many people come to cheer for ABD in India? Superstars are superstars because of what they achieve given whatever circumstances.

2. Pakistan was never seen as the problem. It was genuinely a team liked by people across the globe. I have really close Saffa and English mates who would support Pak over India anytime. But this was the old Pakistan. The current Pakistan team, no one even bothers watching their match.

You should understand the difference in the current Pakistan team and that of the old. All the problems created are of your own volition. Including not being able to play at home or not having any superstars (your domestic structure). When there was no international cricket in SA, hordes of people would come to watch the domestic matches. I reckon there were more spectators in SA domestic games during apartheid than there were when Pakistan played international test matches at home.
 
2 huge incorrect assumptions

1. How many people were showing up for test matches in Pakistan when they were being held. I remember watching many Indo Pak tests with very few spectators. So, thats a complete myth. AB De Villiers is a super star. What has his home feats got to do with how many people come to cheer for ABD in India? Superstars are superstars because of what they achieve given whatever circumstances.

Totally disagree and I wasn't just talking about Test cricket. By the way if you look at the 2005 series against England and the 2006 series against India, as well as the 2004 series the test crowds were pretty good. Most Pakistanis cant be bothered when we play zimbabwe on a flat pitch on a scorching hot day. But if we're facing the ashes winners or India you can bet your bottom dollar that if we are competing a decent crowd shows up. Faisalabad has a decent crowd, Multan less so. Asif became a star after he demolished India at home, Waqar Younis became a star after he demolished new zealand at home and then in the UAE, Imran became a legend when he thrashed Australia 3-0 and destroyed India at home. Misbah and Younis if they got to win big matches at home would be even bigger stars then they are today. When Pakistan thrash india in karachi or smash england in lahore with say shafiq or azhar hitting big centuries, they become stars.

You talk about boring cricket, my friend chasing down a world record score in a day isnt boring cricket, hitting the fastest century in the world is not boring cricket. Imagine if Misbah was doing this at home? or if pakistan were on the verge of a world record at home? Not having cricket at home is a big big problem for us. Yes I agree many of our "stars" don't help themselves but that is only part of the problem. ODI cricket at home creates stars and good test cricket at home consolidates stardom. And thats not just me saying it, nearly every pakistani commentator Ive heard has said the same from rameez to waqar.



2. Pakistan was never seen as the problem. It was genuinely a team liked by people across the globe. I have really close Saffa and English mates who would support Pak over India anytime. But this was the old Pakistan. The current Pakistan team, no one even bothers watching their match.

Lol i suggest you take your rose tinted glasses off. You werent around in the 1987 series were you? or in the eighties? or the nineties? we were called cheats and all sorts of other racist stuff. Our fans are labelled as rowdy hooligans (yes many are but not all), our players were seen as dodgy car salesmen types not to be trusted and this was before match fixing reared its ugly head. pakistan was seen as a country horrible to tour and was a tour that needed to be finished as quickly as possible. How many times did Australia tour us between 1987 and 1998? three times. No terror, no 9/11 etc etc...why? in 1994 we were arguably the two best sides but they only toured one more time after that, and that also four years later. How many times did england tour us between 1987-2001? mnnh? no terror , nothing. So please dont give me this "everyone liked us revisionist garbage. The powers that be have had a problem with us since Kardar started his campaign to take power away from the old colonial overlords. After 2007 we became pariahs not because of the terror attack in 2009 but because the BCCI needed to consolidate its powerbase and that meant eliminating other immediate threats. Naseem ashraf helped them. If our team was so liked why did everyone think we murdered our coach? please. If we were so liked why did teams refuse to tour us when security was fine?
The facts say otherwise.



You should understand the difference in the current Pakistan team and that of the old. All the problems created are of your own volition. Including not being able to play at home or not having any superstars (your domestic structure). When there was no international cricket in SA, hordes of people would come to watch the domestic matches. I reckon there were more spectators in SA domestic games during apartheid than there were when Pakistan played international test matches at home.

No some of the problems created are of our own volition. Not all. Not everything is Pakistan's fault.And the sooner we stop navel gazing the sooner we can start to market and develop our cricket.


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