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Why is Shadab Khan struggling in PSL 2018?

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Shadab Khan is no doubt an amazing talent, only 19 years of age and has already played a big part in many internationals for Pakistan. But his bowling statistics this tournament are 17.1-0-129-1.

Average: 129
Economy: 7.51
Strike Rate: 103

He hasn't done much with the bat either; has scored 6 runs from 3 innings.

I don't think anyone would argue with me that he's not had the best of starts to the tournament. What, in your opinion, is the reason behind his poor start to PSL 3?
 
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He thinks he is already a superstar and not droppable, needs to be dropped to teach him a lesson...
 
Yeah, Let’s drop one of 3 players who have been performing in international cricket in the last year based on performances halfway through a T20 league.
 
He still got a long way to go in this tournament. He will find his rhythm in time. He's bowled quite economically today.
 
He's having an off tournament, but he'll come good sooner or later. I don't think it's one specific thing that's his problem. He just needs to get some momentum, and then the wickets will come.
 
He's a young player. He can't be perfect in every game. You need to give him time.
 
I think he needs to improve his bowling a bit, his first learning curve has arrived. Let's see how he comes out of it.

Also, I think form is not on his side.
 
badsha001 said:
He thinks he is already a superstar and not droppable, needs to be dropped to teach him a lesson...
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You have very poor man management skills. The guy is giving his 100% in the field. A couple of bad games with the ball shouldn't be the end of the world.
 
Became a super star before doing much. That’s the pakistani players way, no need to work hard when fans starts labeling you as world’s best.

I mentioned before in some thread, hard working never stops no matter how big of star you become. These players need to learn how to work hard and find mistakes in their best formances.
 
One of two reasons. Either the international success, along with BBL has gotten to his head or he never was international material to start with and just had beginners luck. I remember his interview from the other day and he said he is still giving his best and was very humble so I guess it could be the latter. His fielding and passion are witness to that too. He looks like a smart cricketer though and hopefully he can evolve with time.
 
He isn't fully fit so he should be rested but it seems as though IU don't have faith in the likes of Gohar just yet. Badree is an option but they seem set on playing the foreign quota of Ronchi/Duminy/Russell/Samit.
 
his line and length.

Shadab when he came in bowled at one place. And from that one place the ball would come as a googly or a leg spin.

Now what he does is that if he wants to throw a leggie, it would be on the off side of the wicket. If he wants to bowl a googly, he choses it to bowl near to the stumps.

Also, Saeed AJmal is his coach :))
 
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sunil narine was getting 3 degree turn the other day, while islu spiners only managed 1 degree or 1.5 ....
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Russell said that the ball was gripping a lot in the first innings but not so much in the second.
 
Think he needs a break tbh

Played quite a lot of cricket past 18 months for a kid.


Zafar is a quality spinner, they really need to give him a go, especially now when qualification looks much more likely
 
Shadab sees himself as battng allrounder ...should concentrate on his bowling more to have good long career.

Otherwise chances of him ending up like bits and pieces cricketer are more !
 
He is facing the SEE OFF stage/cycle of his bowling career... we bowlers will always go through this. Let me explain, when a bowler first comes on to the scene and doesnt do good; they are deemed hacks/duds/still raw and get pushed off back into the domestics until he gets a purple patch. Now if the same player shines right away (whether talented or by chance) they are called talented, next big thing, etc etc... there is an aura created about them. If they got here by chance will be found out, or if they were one trick ponies will be limited and neutralized and fade off. If the talent is real/potential is there, they will conitnue to do good with odd little slumps. The player builds a reputation and the opposition tries to work them out and choose to play out their quota defensively. This will start with the said bowler by having games with nothing much to show for. They will trt harder and will start to experiment and sway away from their gameplan and become easy targets due to frustration and overdoing the experiments and varities. Also they will tend to use their special deliveries too often to the point the surprise element is gone. At the same time the lesser bowlers end up taking more wickets.

If the bowler is actually good they find their way and due to their ineffectiveness of late the other teams try to over attack and the bowler finds a way to get wickets again and shine again... and this cycle just continues...

hopefully this helped in understanding where our boy shadab could be standing currently as there are other non cricketing factors which may effect one too. Otherwise go ask Aqib Javed he is a great coach 😃
 
I think he needs a little time. He has just played handful of international games and the fans need to stop with the hyperbole's. He is a good young cricketer, not a ATG or anything. Let him play few games and establish himself at the highest level before talking him up. So what if he has had a few bad games in a T20 league? He will be better for the experience.
 
Shadab is fine...he will come in to his own once the playoffs start. He's been bowling too quick and should slow it down just a little.
 
Doesn't look fully fit to me and looks like he is possibly carrying an injury.
 
He's young, no young player will not have some inconsistencies. Shadab has an excellent head on his shoulders, he's the last one I'm concerned about.
 
He has skills - which is good for short term (& short duration games), but he didn't polish his skills where it teaches him guile of variations, the virtue of patience, and the perfection of accuracy; so kid is facing what we call in soccer - 2nd year syndrome. Kid has to play, lot, lot, .............................. lot more worthless First Class cricket - but day night is 24 hours cycle, week is 7 days, year is 52 weeks - he can't add time in his calendar to do so.

So, what he has to do is NOT to kill the golden egg lying goose for one time - rather, he should plan to enjoy one egg/day for next 20 years. That's, reduce his earnings from PLs & SLs and allocate big chunk of his invaluable time to this useless staff they call First Class cricket. Otherwise, he might stop earning even from PSL in few years time.

"Turning big is not a big deal, but it's not going to help much, unless a leggi learns to bowl at the desired spot almost every time (that's where he wants to drop the ball after flight, drift & loop), after bowling over 20,000+ balls in match condition" (on top of nets, which should be at least 3 times) - that's about 3,500 overs - this is not my word, this is from a very average Aussie cricketer, who used to be a coach & mentor for leg spinners - Terry Jenner (his favorite pupil was a bit better leggi than him though). My dumb maths tells, it's about 875 T20s, if Shadab is certain to bowl 4 overs in each of these 875 ........................
 
He is bowling too short and faster ones that's why he is not successful. He need to bowl slow and full and allow the bowl to turn as much as possible.
 
Its a curse of bowling in Australia and Nz which ruins Pakistani spinners for some reasons. Perhaps their lines and lengths get affected , i dont know.
I still remember how Afridi lost hi mojo after playing in BBL and became a liability for the next year after that.
 
Not worried about his current form , but the silly tag of STARBOY is really annoying & just adds to the expectations of fickle fans & then the bashing 🤦🏽*♂️
 
Economy of 7.5 in T20s in by no means a struggle but, yes I get from where you are coming from.

1) First thing is in 2nd edition not many people knew how good Shadab was and they tried to take risks against him however, now they are more cautious not to give him wicket considering he is a top leg spinner.

2) Further wickets in this year's PSL are not supporting spin as much as they did in 1st and 2nd editions, though still low scoring pitches but not spinning. As you can see even for Mohammad Asghar who is a very talented spinner but struggled this year although was extremely good in previous to seasons with economy being less than 7.
 
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He has skills - which is good for short term (& short duration games), but he didn't polish his skills where it teaches him guile of variations, the virtue of patience, and the perfection of accuracy; so kid is facing what we call in soccer - 2nd year syndrome. Kid has to play, lot, lot, .............................. lot more worthless First Class cricket - but day night is 24 hours cycle, week is 7 days, year is 52 weeks - he can't add time in his calendar to do so.

So, what he has to do is NOT to kill the golden egg lying goose for one time - rather, he should plan to enjoy one egg/day for next 20 years. That's, reduce his earnings from PLs & SLs and allocate big chunk of his invaluable time to this useless staff they call First Class cricket. Otherwise, he might stop earning even from PSL in few years time.

"Turning big is not a big deal, but it's not going to help much, unless a leggi learns to bowl at the desired spot almost every time (that's where he wants to drop the ball after flight, drift & loop), after bowling over 20,000+ balls in match condition" (on top of nets, which should be at least 3 times) - that's about 3,500 overs - this is not my word, this is from a very average Aussie cricketer, who used to be a coach & mentor for leg spinners - Terry Jenner (his favorite pupil was a bit better leggi than him though). My dumb maths tells, it's about 875 T20s, if Shadab is certain to bowl 4 overs in each of these 875 ........................
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He needs to bowl more in first class cricket. You are right.
 
MMHS said:
He has skills - which is good for short term (& short duration games), but he didn't polish his skills where it teaches him guile of variations, the virtue of patience, and the perfection of accuracy; so kid is facing what we call in soccer - 2nd year syndrome. Kid has to play, lot, lot, .............................. lot more worthless First Class cricket - but day night is 24 hours cycle, week is 7 days, year is 52 weeks - he can't add time in his calendar to do so.

So, what he has to do is NOT to kill the golden egg lying goose for one time - rather, he should plan to enjoy one egg/day for next 20 years. That's, reduce his earnings from PLs & SLs and allocate big chunk of his invaluable time to this useless staff they call First Class cricket. Otherwise, he might stop earning even from PSL in few years time.

"Turning big is not a big deal, but it's not going to help much, unless a leggi learns to bowl at the desired spot almost every time (that's where he wants to drop the ball after flight, drift & loop), after bowling over 20,000+ balls in match condition" (on top of nets, which should be at least 3 times) - that's about 3,500 overs - this is not my word, this is from a very average Aussie cricketer, who used to be a coach & mentor for leg spinners - Terry Jenner (his favorite pupil was a bit better leggi than him though). My dumb maths tells, it's about 875 T20s, if Shadab is certain to bowl 4 overs in each of these 875 ........................
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Reminds of Piyush Chawla in his early days. Had a killer googly, handy fielder and could swing the bat too. But he stagnated after his early success, and never took those next steps.

At least Chawla has IPL millions to console himself for lack of international acclaim.
 
Young players normally struggle in their 2nd season so no need to panic. He needs to concentrate on the fiercely spun leg break and he should be ok.
 
Glad he got the promotion with the bat, was great with the ball too, Shadab really turning the ship around at the right time. Inconsistencies with a player of his ilk and of his age is absolutely nothing to panic about.
 
OoparCut said:
Reminds of Piyush Chawla in his early days. Had a killer googly, handy fielder and could swing the bat too. But he stagnated after his early success, and never took those next steps.

At least Chawla has IPL millions to console himself for lack of international acclaim.
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Closer example is probably Mansoor Amzad. Actually, any decent cricketer can turn the ball, and on turning wicket they'll look good cricketer as well - I actually use a different term - "utility" cricketer. ENG produces such in dozens in every County.

These are hardly any impact player. These days there is T20, so these type of utility cricketers are making a career, but hardly any long term prospect. In cricket, there is 4 types of all-rounders - the most precious one is bowling all-rounders, cheapest one is jack of all trade .... Shadab has three way open - he can be a bowling all-rounder, or a jack, better if he can be like Sobers. BUT, what he won't become is exactly what most people here thinks he should - batting all-rounder.

Try any top level batting all-rounder from WG to Walter Hammond to Ted Dexter to Frank Wiorrell to Greg Chappel to Viv Richards to Border to Jaques Kallis .... they were at least 45+ average Test batsman and used batting intelligence while bowling. Batting all-rounders are groomed as batsman, then they added bowling from experience - this kid is born with natural bowling skills and bless with sweet hitting ability; he should built on his natural strength. I hope, today's' No. 3 spot doesn't distract his progress.
 
Maybe because he's not as good as everyone thinks he is? Anyway, it's not a big deal. He's got all the time as the age is on his side. You don't expect someone his age to rip through lineups.
 
MMHS said:
Closer example is probably Mansoor Amzad. Actually, any decent cricketer can turn the ball, and on turning wicket they'll look good cricketer as well - I actually use a different term - "utility" cricketer. ENG produces such in dozens in every County.

These are hardly any impact player. These days there is T20, so these type of utility cricketers are making a career, but hardly any long term prospect. In cricket, there is 4 types of all-rounders - the most precious one is bowling all-rounders, cheapest one is jack of all trade .... Shadab has three way open - he can be a bowling all-rounder, or a jack, better if he can be like Sobers. BUT, what he won't become is exactly what most people here thinks he should - batting all-rounder.

Try any top level batting all-rounder from WG to Walter Hammond to Ted Dexter to Frank Wiorrell to Greg Chappel to Viv Richards to Border to Jaques Kallis .... they were at least 45+ average Test batsman and used batting intelligence while bowling. Batting all-rounders are groomed as batsman, then they added bowling from experience - this kid is born with natural bowling skills and bless with sweet hitting ability; he should built on his natural strength. I hope, today's' No. 3 spot doesn't distract his progress.
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I feel that the guy has very less experience of FC cricket.He need a conounty stint or Fc seasons in pak do develop control.otherwise he is becoming another Shahid Afridi by playing such leagues.
He needs to learn from yasir.Control would not come by playing Micky mouse cricket.
 
Plumb said:
Became a super star before doing much. That’s the pakistani players way, no need to work hard when fans starts labeling you as world’s best.

I mentioned before in some thread, hard working never stops no matter how big of star you become. These players need to learn how to work hard and find mistakes in their best formances.
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Bro, I have said this for many years here at PP. This is a factor where indian youngsters are way ahead.
Ahmed Shehzad, Akmal, even Imran Nazir were good talents but they became «rockstars» before doing anything speciall.

They all want the easy ways out and if they somehow hit the gym for 3-4 days on trot they will make sure the media mention this so the world can think they are working extremely hard. This has to be a daily norm if they want improvement.

Coming back to Shadab, he needs to focus more on his bowling. He is good in all 3 departments but his bowling is the most Important for Pak. He has been below par for some times now. The good thing with him is that he seems to be a guy who can deliver in big matches as he is mentally strong.
 
He isn't taking the PSL by storm like he was in the first season, but nothing to worry about at the moment. The guy has a great sense of the game and is a great candidate for captaincy 8-10 years from now.
 
Just wait. I think that once he finds his form, he'll start performing like last season. It's just a matter of getting his rhythm together. Give him some time.:shadab
 
It took Shadab 5 games to take his first wicket and Zafar Gohar only three balls...

Now he took a second wicket, can't believe Islamabad never gave him a chance
 
What people dont understand is he's a different player when he plays for pakistan and only that what matters. He was superb in the Nz series and also in the big bash maybe he is tired after all hr is 20 years old amd playing continuous cricket for last 1 year or so.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="pt"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shadab Khan 3 for 25 - big players perform when it matters the most <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL2018?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL2018</a> <a href="https://t.co/8uw3n9PdMO">pic.twitter.com/8uw3n9PdMO</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/977944998963539969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25 de março de 2018</a></blockquote>
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Where are you haters now? this kid is an absolute champion. Gem of a talent.
 
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