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Why not consider Sahibzada Farhan as wicketkeeper after Mohammad Haris’s poor run?

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With Mohammad Haris continuing his poor run of form both with the bat and behind the stumps, Pakistan may need to rethink their wicketkeeping options moving forward. While Sahibzada Farhan hasn’t been in outstanding form himself lately, he brings a level of consistency and maturity that could benefit the team—especially as a top-order option.

Farhan has experience as a part-time wicketkeeper and could be a valuable dual-role player if given proper backing. His ability to open the innings adds another layer of flexibility to the lineup, something Pakistan have been lacking with Haris’s struggles. In a format where every position matters is it time to test Sahibzada Farhan as a potential wicketkeeper-opener for Pakistan and play a proper batter at the position where Haris is batting like Khushdil Shah?
 
Part time wicketkeeper who should focus on opening. We need a reliable opening partnership that’s a bigger priority.

Also Haris’s keeping already is not good enough let alone someone who could be worse.

I also don’t think there’s a wealth of players banging down the door to get into the team right now. So might as well stick with Haris for a while.
 
ads101 said:
Part time wicketkeeper who should focus on opening. We need a reliable opening partnership that’s a bigger priority.

Also Haris’s keeping already is not good enough let alone someone who could be worse.

I also don’t think there’s a wealth of players banging down the door to get into the team right now. So might as well stick with Haris for a while.
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it means we have to play with 10 players for a while because Haris is good for nothing!
 
Why do people want to force him to keep wickets when he clearly does not want to? He should focus on his batting. I think he's very vulnerable against balls pitched just outside off. Slogging is fine in pp but Farhan needs to work on hitting the balls into gaps as well.
 
I think it is a great opportunity for Farhan to cement his place in the team if he can keep wickets... I know, he does not want to, but it surely is an opportunity to cash in... It will make him an important guy in the sqaud because there is no competition atm among keepers... Haris has been pathetic, azam is nowhere... Nafay is also not there yet.
 
Certainly not. Wicketkeeping is the most specialized job in the game. You can ask a batter to bowl or a bowler to bat but you can't just ask anyone to keep. Asking a part timer to keep will never end well.
 
This wouldn't solve the wicket keeper problem.

It would keep the wicket keeper problem and make a new opening batsman problem.
 
Asking Sahibzada to keep wickets would be unfair. It would be an example of how not to deal with a squad balance issue at the national level.

Firstly because Sahibza doesn’t own his place in the team currently. Putting even more pressure on him to keep would be unfair. I think most specialist batsman don’t ‘want’ to keep. When they do it’s out of necessity or boredom and they soon grow out of it.

Secondly, we should consider what our actual issue is. Keeper doesn’t need to be your best batter and open especially since we have no shortage of openers. For me given our dearth of good keeper-batters we should play our wk at 7. We need a good keeper who’s a decent batter. Haris unfortunately is neither of those.

Format: T20
Role: Wk and bats at 7
Options: Haris, Rizwan, Azam, Usman, Haseebullah, Nafay.

Till end of Asia Cup: Haris
Post Asia Cup: Haseebullah or Nafay or any other young guy for the role I described.
 
Farhan himself is a walking wicket. Good pace bowling lineups ll pick him up in the first 12 balls. Matter of time before the call to kick him out comes up in this forum....
 
Kianig89 said:
Why not bring Rizwan back and swallow your ego. we dont have a choice
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Nay.. I think that is not fair.. Rizwan has not performed to show that he can come back... Farhan really needs to step up. If farhan cannot keep, then the selectors should be blamed that they did not take a backup keeper with the squad.
 
Major said:
Yeh, thats why clowns like harris need to be dropped
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No, that’s why the clown Rizwan was booted out…and the results have been improving.

No need to change something that isn’t broken. But mediocre cricket fans from SNGPL who idolise Misbah ul Haq will not understand this. Freshies love to create problems where there are none.

Please support Afghanistan like you said you would before the Tri series began.
 
Rana said:
No, that’s why the clown Rizwan was booted out…and the results have been improving.

No need to change something that isn’t broken. But mediocre cricket fans from SNGPL who idolise Misbah ul Haq will not understand this. Freshies love to create problems where there are none.

Please support Afghanistan like you said you would before the Tri series began.
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You can keep living in denial and pray that harris performs in a one off game.

Point is he is garbage and its now time to replace him with rizwan
 
Rana said:
No need to change something that isn’t broken
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last time i checked , Cricket Teams thrive if selection is driven by performance and merit , Not by team results.

are we teaching our kids that they dnt need to learn basic batting skills that would allow them to hold a bat against good bowlers when they are asked to bat out of comfort zones? Rather present yourself as single position , conditions specific ( Roads ) limited player to get yourself selected in national team of 250 million plus people?

I get you dnt like Rizwan , But call spade a spade , In this case M harris being garbage
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
last time i checked , Cricket Teams thrive if selection is driven by performance and merit , Not by team results.

are we teaching our kids that they dnt need to learn basic batting skills that would allow them to hold a bat against good bowlers when they are asked to bat out of comfort zones? Rather present yourself as single position , conditions specific ( Roads ) limited player to get yourself selected in national team of 250 million plus people?

I get you dnt like Rizwan , But call spade a spade , In this case M harris being garbage
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Who do you replace Harris with?
 
Rana said:
Are you upset Babar has been asked to report for a red ball camp whilst the Pakistan T20 team has moved on without him?
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He will be playing the real form cricket, while you can keep licking over Sahibzada, Agha and Haris stats. As I said earlier. Babar on one leg is better than all these railu katta cricketers
 
heddie19 said:
He will be playing the real form cricket, while you can keep licking over Sahibzada, Agha and Haris stats. As I said earlier. Babar on one leg is better than all these railu katta cricketers
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Chalo that’s good to know you have finally embraced what’s important.

Soon you will also understand, I was right about his association with Rizwan.
 
Rana said:
Chalo that’s good to know you have finally embraced what’s important.

Soon you will also understand, I was right about his association with Rizwan.
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I never completely disagreed with the 'Rizwan Association' part. His growth curve did start to go down after that. I also don't like the fact that they're always clubbed together by the media. Babar is a different individual and Rizwan is another. They should be considered individually not as a tag team.
 
heddie19 said:
Babar is a different individual and Rizwan is another. They should be considered individually not as a tag team
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I get that. But for a long time, they operated together as a tag team and not individuals. Babar was too naive to understand how he was being played here. At some point, Babar thought he needs to cling on to Rizwan as well. It’s Rizwan and their agent who have used Babar to promote Rizwan’s career….and Babar has tried to get the favour returned through Rizwan as well in his own time of need. So you can see why they are termed as one and the other.

Its a shame really. We had a special player in Babar Azam. @CerebralPatriot mentioned a great analogy from Breaking Bad to describe the mistakes of Babar Azam.
 
Rana said:
I get that. But for a long time, they operated together as a tag team and not individuals. Babar was too naive to understand how he was being played here. At some point, Babar thought he needs to cling on to Rizwan as well. It’s Rizwan and their agent who have used Babar to promote Rizwan’s career….and Babar has tried to get the favour returned through Rizwan as well in his own time of need. So you can see why they are termed as one and the other.

Its a shame really. We had a special player in Babar Azam. @CerebralPatriot mentioned a great analogy from Breaking Bad to describe the mistakes of Babar Azam.
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Talha Aisham. Again, I partially agree with you that they did cling to eachother whenever they needed support and it could be due to their agency. But Shaheen is having the same agent and his story is different. Many believe Babar took his captaincy and vice versa. Also more than 70% of the team is working with Talha/Saya Corp that includes newly found permanent member such as Faheem, Abrar, Sufyan etc. So I really don't know what is the cause. The way Zaka Ashraf acted upon it and made Inzi the scapegoat was monkey business too.
 
heddie19 said:
Talha Aisham. Again, I partially agree with you that they did cling to eachother whenever they needed support and it could be due to their agency. But Shaheen is having the same agent and his story is different. Many believe Babar took his captaincy and vice versa. Also more than 70% of the team is working with Talha/Saya Corp that includes newly found permanent member such as Faheem, Abrar, Sufyan etc. So I really don't know what is the cause. The way Zaka Ashraf acted upon it and made Inzi the scapegoat was monkey business too.
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Rana said:
I get that. But for a long time, they operated together as a tag team and not individuals. Babar was too naive to understand how he was being played here. At some point, Babar thought he needs to cling on to Rizwan as well. It’s Rizwan and their agent who have used Babar to promote Rizwan’s career….and Babar has tried to get the favour returned through Rizwan as well in his own time of need. So you can see why they are termed as one and the other.

Its a shame really. We had a special player in Babar Azam. @CerebralPatriot mentioned a great analogy from Breaking Bad to describe the mistakes of Babar Azam.
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And it is true that Babar was a world-class talent, the way he is going down pains my heart. He is someone who always needed support which PMIK,RR,MA,Sarfraz,Misbah etc. gave him. Right now, he is isolated socially and mentally and is unable to come back stronger.
 
Haris has been disappointing and his performance has not even been tailenderesque.
He should be kicked out and someone else from domestic cricket should be called. Maybe yasir khan if he keeps wicket.

No Rizwan he is not needed he is not a t20 player he was never a T20 player he never will be a T20 player.
 
So when Farhan fails why not consider Azam Khan

So when Azam Khan fails why not consider Usman Khan

So when Usman Khan fails why not bring back Moin Khan

Chars pi huwi hai sub ne.
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You have a class option in Riz. Just bring him back but give him a clear guideline on what team expects from him. After being dropped from T20 set up he would be desperate to improve his game and prove himself.
 
Rizwan is the best wicket keeper in Pakistan by a mile. In fact, the gap between Pakistan’s best and second best wicket keeper is the biggest in the entire world. That is how much superior Rizwan is compared to his competition.

But some people who have a phobia of Rizwan will nominate their tandoor wala to keep wickets for Pakistan as long as they can avoid picking Rizwan.
 
Mamoon said:
Rizwan is the best wicket keeper in Pakistan by a mile. In fact, the gap between Pakistan’s best and second best wicket keeper is the biggest in the entire world. That is how much superior Rizwan is compared to his competition.

But some people who have a phobia of Rizwan will nominate their tandoor wala to keep wickets for Pakistan as long as they can avoid picking Rizwan.
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What if I nominate myself for the WK position? Although idk if pcb will allow me due to a dual nationality status 😆.
 
gazza619 said:
So when Farhan fails why not consider Azam Khan

So when Azam Khan fails why not consider Usman Khan

So when Usman Khan fails why not bring back Moin Khan

Chars pi huwi hai sub ne.
🚬

You have a class option in Riz. Just bring him back but give him a clear guideline on what team expects from him. After being dropped from T20 set up he would be desperate to improve his game and prove himself.
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Rizwan isn't coming back :ssa2
 
gazza619 said:
So when Farhan fails why not consider Azam Khan

So when Azam Khan fails why not consider Usman Khan

So when Usman Khan fails why not bring back Moin Khan

Chars pi huwi hai sub ne.
🚬

You have a class option in Riz. Just bring him back but give him a clear guideline on what team expects from him. After being dropped from T20 set up he would be desperate to improve his game and prove himself.
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@topspin @mominsaigol @RyanRyan10 @shaz619 @TheSultan @YousafTheBeast

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gazza619 said:
So when Farhan fails why not consider Azam Khan

So when Azam Khan fails why not consider Usman Khan

So when Usman Khan fails why not bring back Moin Khan

Chars pi huwi hai sub ne.
🚬

You have a class option in Riz. Just bring him back but give him a clear guideline on what team expects from him. After being dropped from T20 set up he would be desperate to improve his game and prove himself.
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I know bro
 

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gazza619 said:
So when Farhan fails why not consider Azam Khan

So when Azam Khan fails why not consider Usman Khan

So when Usman Khan fails why not bring back Moin Khan

Chars pi huwi hai sub ne.
🚬

You have a class option in Riz. Just bring him back but give him a clear guideline on what team expects from him. After being dropped from T20 set up he would be desperate to improve his game and prove himself.
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There is no point crying now. Babar and Rizwan had full control of the team for 3-4 years. Do you think we just criticised them because we didn’t like their shakal?

They had time to try other permutations and combinations. Both could have swallowed their ego and come down the other. But their rigidness has made our position rigid on them. I would have respected both of them if they came down the order.

There’s no point saying now - “oh they’ll be desperate to prove themselves”. Why weren’t they desperate before? Because they thought we don’t need to, we control this team.

You had your chance and blew it.

Even if Haris is a failure, you can replace him no problem, but sorry rizzy ain’t coming back!
 
TheSultan said:
There is no point crying now. Babar and Rizwan had full control of the team for 3-4 years. Do you think we just criticised them because we didn’t like their shakal?

They had time to try other permutations and combinations. Both could have swallowed their ego and come down the other. But their rigidness has made our position rigid on them. I would have respected both of them if they came down the order.

There’s no point saying now - “oh they’ll be desperate to prove themselves”. Why weren’t they desperate before? Because they thought we don’t need to, we control this team.

You had your chance and blew it.

Even if Haris is a failure, you can replace him no problem, but sorry rizzy ain’t coming back!
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Everyone's mama wanted Babar and Rizwan to succeed. These guys think me, you and a few others like @Rana @topspin @RyanRyan10 and many others just don't get it?

Logically why wouldn't Pakistani fans want a kohli + Gilchrist level batter?

It's just that babar and rizwan aren't as good as people make them out to be and their selfish nature to play for themsleves doesn't help either

Babar Azam though I would say got a bit unlucky tbf. He was always an odi and test batter but due to Pakistan playing only 13 tests per year and hardly any odi, he tried pivoting towards t20.

Sadly the moment he pivoted into Misbah's hands who started with the destruction of t20 cricket for Pakistan, it meant that babar's career was over.

Sad cause his career was headed in an uphill trajectory under sarfi and mickey.
 
gazza619 said:
So when Farhan fails why not consider Azam Khan

So when Azam Khan fails why not consider Usman Khan

So when Usman Khan fails why not bring back Moin Khan

Chars pi huwi hai sub ne.
🚬

You have a class option in Riz. Just bring him back but give him a clear guideline on what team expects from him. After being dropped from T20 set up he would be desperate to improve his game and prove himself.
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His harkatein aren't changing, played exactly the same way he has always played yesterday. SR of 110-120 in the initial part of his innings, then end up with 130-140 having eaten up a lot of deliveries.
 
mominsaigol said:
Everyone's mama wanted Babar and Rizwan to succeed. These guys think me, you and a few others like @Rana @topspin @RyanRyan10 and many others just don't get it?

Logically why wouldn't Pakistani fans want a kohli + Gilchrist level batter?

It's just that babar and rizwan aren't as good as people make them out to be and their selfish nature to play for themsleves doesn't help either

Babar Azam though I would say got a bit unlucky tbf. He was always an odi and test batter but due to Pakistan playing only 13 tests per year and hardly any odi, he tried pivoting towards t20.

Sadly the moment he pivoted into Misbah's hands who started with the destruction of t20 cricket for Pakistan, it meant that babar's career was over.

Sad cause his career was headed in an uphill trajectory under sarfi and mickey.
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Exactly right - don’t you think we all want an Inzi, Saeed or Yousuf/Younis type player in our batting order. In 2019 We all thought Babar is the successor.

But after watching and analysing him over a few years and especially the current version - sorry Babar just ain’t that guy!
 
TheSultan said:
Exactly right - don’t you think we all want an Inzi, Saeed or Yousuf/Younis type player in our batting order. In 2019 We all thought Babar is the successor.

But after watching and analysing him over a few years and especially the current version - sorry Babar just ain’t that guy!
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Misbah fans aren't PK cricket fans, they want Pakistan to lose end of atory if Misbah's vision isnt achieved.

They are as hypocritical as their indian counterparts on this forumn.

The reason we hate Misbah's ideology is because it always causes Pakistan to collapse in whiteball and vecome associate level.

If people wish to use the test excuse then fine. Keep test as is.
 
Already tried that and it was a massive failure!!

He dropped catches and he isn't even a part-time keeper either, just an emergency only keeper.
 
gazza619 said:
So when Farhan fails why not consider Azam Khan

So when Azam Khan fails why not consider Usman Khan

So when Usman Khan fails why not bring back Moin Khan

Chars pi huwi hai sub ne.
🚬

You have a class option in Riz. Just bring him back but give him a clear guideline on what team expects from him. After being dropped from T20 set up he would be desperate to improve his game and prove himself.
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''You have a class option in Riz''
Omg.
Sir g dealer ka number send kardena yaar.
 
heddie19 said:
And it is true that Babar was a world-class talent, the way he is going down pains my heart. He is someone who always needed support which PMIK,RR,MA,Sarfraz,Misbah etc. gave him. Right now, he is isolated socially and mentally and is unable to come back stronger.
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He gets ample enough support from saya corp, paid ex-players + bot accounts and deluded fans like yourself.
 
Let him settle into his opening role first. Runs ban nahin rahe Farhan sey. You want to give him additional responsibility!
 
I actually support the team management's decision to continue with Haris inspite of his poor run. The guy is doing his job as a keeper, is fit and not dropping basic chances. Hesson is trying to create a culture and fearless mindset in the batting unit where all batters are encouraged to play aggressive, fearless cricket and go for their shots inspite of the loss of early wickets.

If they persist with Haris, all the other members of the team will get a further boost of confidence that the team management will go through thick and skin to back players inspite of players and no one will get benched without being given a fair run.

If they drop Haris, all the other players will go back to self preservation, stat padding at low strike rates at the expense of the team as they know in the event of failures the team management will not have their backs.
 
mominsaigol said:
Everyone's mama wanted Babar and Rizwan to succeed. These guys think me, you and a few others like @Rana @topspin @RyanRyan10 and many others just don't get it?

Logically why wouldn't Pakistani fans want a kohli + Gilchrist level batter?

It's just that babar and rizwan aren't as good as people make them out to be and their selfish nature to play for themsleves doesn't help either

Babar Azam though I would say got a bit unlucky tbf. He was always an odi and test batter but due to Pakistan playing only 13 tests per year and hardly any odi, he tried pivoting towards t20.

Sadly the moment he pivoted into Misbah's hands who started with the destruction of t20 cricket for Pakistan, it meant that babar's career was over.

Sad cause his career was headed in an uphill trajectory under sarfi and mickey.
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Babar and Rizwan are part of the ODIs and they haven't changed their approach yet. In the CT matches against New Zealand and India, as well as the first ODI in New Zealand, at least one or both of them played too slowly while the batter at other end was going at a good rate (Saud/Agha), which cost Pakistan. In the first ODI in the West Indies, they operated at a strike rate in the low 70s while chasing 285. Fortunately, Hassan Nawaz and Hussain Talat stepped up. They are extremely stubborn and bringing them back would result in them gaining control over the team, which would push Pakistan cricket further back in the limited overs.

Many of their fans say that Pakistan has only had mixed results in this format this year. However in ODIs, Pakistan has performed poorly. So, Pakistan is doing better in formats in which they have been dropped than in the ones they regularly play. It should also be noted that ODI format is more suited to their style of play than T20s.
 
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