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Will David Warner ever play for Australia again?

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With reports emerging that Warner was the main guy behind this whole saga and that his teamates have turned on him, news reports are openly saying that Warner will never be seen in the baggy green again. What do you all think - is it safe to say that this is the end of the road for David Warner or is their any redemption for him? After all, he has been one of their best openers in a long time...
 
Nope I think he is finished the Aussies public have never liked him from his on field behavior.
 
Not a chance of him playing again.

CA officials already dislike him and were getting tired of backing him up all the time.

Craddock said something along the lines of Australian fans not minding a bad boy (see Warne who was loved) and not minding a straight edge person but absolutely hating someone who tried to be both eg Warner who always came off as a massive hypocrite.
 
It depends on how his replacements go. Who's opening with Renshaw for the next Test?
 
If the players have thrown him under the bus, he has KP'ed himself and the answer is no. If the dressing room is fine with him, the public's opinion being negative of him won't stop him being selected because, on merit, he is easily Australia's best opener across all formats. It solely comes down to the dressing room dynamic.
 
1 year is a long time and Australia will get their butts handed to them without Smith/Warner/Bancroft.
 
Is the root cause for all this is happening to Warner some where related to his wife's past life ?

:warner took fight with de-Cock at staircase too seriously and finally ended-up cheating to win the test ...

Revenge to settle personal score made Warner do this naive error of judgement #JustDifferentView #SandpaperGate
 
If the players have thrown him under the bus, he has KP'ed himself and the answer is no. If the dressing room is fine with him, the public's opinion being negative of him won't stop him being selected because, on merit, he is easily Australia's best opener across all formats. It solely comes down to the dressing room dynamic.

He is said to be a complete tool and his own colleagues dislike him. Within the game he is one of the more hated prominent players.
 
He is said to be a complete tool and his own colleagues dislike him. Within the game he is one of the more hated prominent players.

No he isn't. In India, he is one of the biggest stars, only next to AB among foreign players.
 
They need him for the World Cup next year. OZ batting lineup looks thin without him opening.

tbh they dont really care as much about a WC

I agree that he is more likely to help them win a WC than an Ashes. Aussies crave the Ashes more so they would be willing to sacrifice him
 
He can still bat and pile on the runs in Australia and South Africa, be it now or 12 months later. He is also worth having along with Aaron Finch at the top of the ODI order. So why is he done?

I don't buy the fact that he has 'played his last game for Australia'. Doesn't make too much sense, and is too abrupt for anyone's liking.
 
Fans talk of KP being a negative influence on his team back in his days. Warner is a far worse influence than KP ever was. Such a shame, the guy was such an entertaining attacking batsman who could have achieved so much more for himself and his team, instead he caught the 'spoilt brat syndrome'.

And CA or BCCI doesn't put up with garbage. A player acts an idiot and negatively influences his team, he is disposed off.
 
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He can still bat and pile on the runs in Australia and South Africa, be it now or 12 months later. He is also worth having along with Aaron Finch at the top of the ODI order. So why is he done?

I don't buy the fact that he has 'played his last game for Australia'. Doesn't make too much sense, and is too abrupt for anyone's liking.

I dont think Cricket Australia and team management will be ready to bring back David Warner in the team after the ban is over. He is widely hated by his team members and Aussies fans.

If he makes a comeback into the team, he will become a tumour for Australian cricket team and this is something they dont want to happen. Now that he is banned, this is the best chance for Australian team management to dumb Warner once and for all just like ECB did to KP as soon as his performance went downward. CA won't even be blamed given Warner was such a cheat and has himself to blame for the mistake.

He is no Smith either that a player of his callibre is a must need for Australian cricket. Australia will easily find another Home Track Bully like him with much better head. No major worries as such.
 
Bancroft just did a press conference

When asked if he was pushed (inference being by Warner ) : no comment
 
You can't give someone a 1 year ban and not select him for the national team after that. It doesn't make any sense. Just give him a life ban instead.

Also Australians are over reacting here. As if this is the first offence in the history of Aus cricket. Guys like Shane Warne who got himself banned just before the world cup because of taking drugs played for australia after he served his punishmment.
 
Yes, he will play again and he should play again. If players can return from spot-fixing, an act someone commits that is detrimental to the chances of their team winning a game, then Warner and co. should play again one day as well. Ball tampering isn't the same as spot-fixing. Their loyalty to their country cannot come under question after this whole saga. If players who have commited much bigger crimes have made a return, then why can't these guys?
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2 out of the 3 players fronting up to the media .. Speaking honestly and in great regret .. 1 speaking through a statement on social media .. !!!</p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/979268878298738688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I guess Vaughn was referring to this.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/BaB8vsSvif">pic.twitter.com/BaB8vsSvif</a></p>— David Warner (@davidwarner31) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidwarner31/status/979216486760927232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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It seems his relationship with his fellow players has completely broken down. CA already hates him for his various indiscretions, and the fact he was the most outspoken player during the contract row last year.

However given the fragile state of Test cricket, big names like Warner and Smith are needed. I don't think the offence merits a life ban.
 
Don't think he will play for the national team again

Unlike Pakistan , countries like Australia etc are ruthless against players who fall out of line

England discarded a top player like kp

So I see no issue CA doing the same .

But warner will be back in franchise cricket so will play in t20 league cricket ipl , psl , big bash , where he will still be a marquee signing
 
His tweet made clear that he hasn’t decided what to do.

If most of his endorsements remain, he will obviously stay silent.

But he clearly feels that he has been scapegoated as responsible for a one-off event, when he thinks it happened for two years with the entire team involved, only for them to throw him under the bus.

He is said to be especially angry with the rest of the “leadership group” - Starc, Hazlewood and Lyon - and considering taking them down with him.

Getting the IPL to withdraw his contract may be Cricket Australia’s greatest error.

An angry Dave Warner - or even his brother Steven - could demolish their carefully crafted narrative.
 
Got to say that Warner's batting was good to watch. We will miss that and also unlike KP he had time on his side. He could have broken some records.

The only way Warner could come back is if he strikes some deal with the CA to keep quiet or the Aussies get annihilated by India, Eng and Pak.
 
Depends on 2 things :

1) whether the other opener perform well or not.

2) how many runs he piles in domestic cricket after his comeback.

If things fall in line for him, nobody can stop him from making a comeback as opposed to what some people might have you believe here.
 
Told the media he would take 3 questions, then comes out with his kids in hand saying he needs to put them in bed

Honestly, he is a coward, hiding behind his kids and wife. He could have easily come out himself, and they could have come later.

Brings up crap about other players personal lives and looses it when it happens to him. Utter bully.


Have some sympathy for his wife, but she has a career as a reality tv star and she has used her past for that.
 
There's sympathy for Smith and Bancroft but not for Warner. He's done.
 
He hasn't shown the regret Smith and Bancroft have. Be interested to see what he says when he faces the media.
 
Told the media he would take 3 questions, then comes out with his kids in hand saying he needs to put them in bed

Honestly, he is a coward, hiding behind his kids and wife. He could have easily come out himself, and they could have come later.

Brings up crap about other players personal lives and looses it when it happens to him. Utter bully.


Have some sympathy for his wife, but she has a career as a reality tv star and she has used her past for that.
I've never come across any incident of Warner targeting someone's family.
 
tbh they dont really care as much about a WC

I agree that he is more likely to help them win a WC than an Ashes. Aussies crave the Ashes more so they would be willing to sacrifice him

He's been great in the last three Ashes. What do you mean?
 
I've never come across any incident of Warner targeting someone's family.

he apparently had something to say about De Kock's sister which is what kicked off this whole mess.

He denies it, De Kock stands by it. Its all he says , but honestly who has more credibility? Warner has had a bust up with pretty much every team he plays, while the Saffers only really tend to give it if they get in the first place, they hardly start crap.
 
he apparently had something to say about De Kock's sister which is what kicked off this whole mess.

He denies it, De Kock stands by it. Its all he says , but honestly who has more credibility? Warner has had a bust up with pretty much every team he plays, while the Saffers only really tend to give it if they get in the first place, they hardly start crap.

Well, that's no evidence then.

Warner can be a tool on the field but he's never across as someone who'd target people's personal lives. If you listen to him off field, he's been pretty respectful to anyone he's played against. He's just very competitive on-field like Kohli and their mental edge gets the better when the juices start flowing. To be fair to him, he's been pretty well behaved the last 2-3 years. It's only this series he started mouthing off again, which seemed more like a team effort anyway as he wasn't the only one because SA just embarrassed them in their home last series.
 
I hope he never does. He takes far more from the game than he gives. I can feel sorry for Smith and Bancroft, but not Lehmann and Warner.
 
I've never come across any incident of Warner targeting someone's family.

I don't want to rub salt, but you must have some idea man - how dirty these Aussies can go on field when chips are down and Warner was their leader in that act.

Long back, 2005, a great AUS side came to BD and played first Test at Fatullah. We had a batsmen named Shariar Nafis and guy is Oxford system educated (O/A level) - means he knows English and he knows the colorful English, not the taxi driver one.

He played a fantastic knock on day one - 138 at 75 SR, hitting everything in range and Aussies had Lee, Gilli, Warne & MacGill in attack. That guy later said that after lunch, when he reached in his 70s, the stench started to come out of Aussie mouth and by the time he got out, he felt he should thank his luck - all those Aussies in their 30s threw everything filthy that can come out of human mouth to a 19 years old kid, to his family, mother, sister, GF ......

Warner is a thug, that too a coward one - cricket will be better without him and Aussies getting fair share for running their mouth.
 
I don't want to rub salt, but you must have some idea man - how dirty these Aussies can go on field when chips are down and Warner was their leader in that act.

Long back, 2005, a great AUS side came to BD and played first Test at Fatullah. We had a batsmen named Shariar Nafis and guy is Oxford system educated (O/A level) - means he knows English and he knows the colorful English, not the taxi driver one.

He played a fantastic knock on day one - 138 at 75 SR, hitting everything in range and Aussies had Lee, Gilli, Warne & MacGill in attack. That guy later said that after lunch, when he reached in his 70s, the stench started to come out of Aussie mouth and by the time he got out, he felt he should thank his luck - all those Aussies in their 30s threw everything filthy that can come out of human mouth to a 19 years old kid, to his family, mother, sister, GF ......

Warner is a thug, that too a coward one - cricket will be better without him and Aussies getting fair share for running their mouth.

If that was the case, then we would've heard at least some cases. The Poms with their usual whinging would've brought it in front of the mic immediately. I've followed Warner's career very closely. He's never come across as that sort of person.
 
If that was the case, then we would've heard at least some cases. The Poms with their usual whinging would've brought it in front of the mic immediately. I've followed Warner's career very closely. He's never come across as that sort of person.

Poms have brought it - do you expect Nasser to speak with a laundry list? There are 3 Gods in cricket - for one Warner plays, the other one pays him; so left with only one and Nasser had spoken on behalf.

And the mobster got his share from the Chota God - in SAF. Most of the players don't carry baggage after day's end, otherwise this thug would have got beaten in pubs. Last I can recall he shouted to Raina (or some Indian player) - "speak in English", so that Mahraj can understand and respond ...... absolute tool.
 
Warner's ego must be managed, warns Biff

Sydney - Former South African captain Graeme Smith has some advice for Australia coach Justin Langer - make sure David Warner's ego is managed if he starts to "get bigger than everybody else".

The polarising opener, on the comeback trail after a one-year ban for ball-tampering, has been in red-hot form in the Indian Premier League ahead of his expected recall to the national side for the Cricket World Cup in England and Wales.

But some commentators believe Warner's return could be disruptive to the team, which is now resurgent after a run of poor results, and that he needs to managed carefully.

Smith, who skippered his country for more than a decade, said that while he admired Warner's batting, he had "****ed a lot of people off" throughout his career.

"I don't know," he told Fox Sports on Tuesday evening when asked if he would have any issue in welcoming Warner back to the Australian team.

"It's difficult to know what it's like behind the scenes, but he's always been an incredible cricketer," added Smith, who played 117 Tests before retiring in 2014.

"Especially when he bats, he bats with that driven nature, that intensity, ego to perform. And he's an excellent cricketer.

"I think where David has been throughout his career is that he's ****ed a lot of people off. He's just that type of guy. I think at the moment he needs Australian cricket more than they need him."

Warner is suspected of instigating a plot to use sandpaper to alter the ball in the now infamous Cape Town Test last year. He has long been a divisive figure.

And Smith believes his behaviour needs to be monitored closely.

"I think he's very driven, I think he wants to do well, he wants to prove his worth again. And I think David Warner in that position is probably a good guy to have in your environment," he said.

"It's when he starts to get bigger than everybody else then probably management needs to be ready for that.

"Guys like Langer and whoever is captaining the side going forward need to ensure they stay on top of that and manage that space and that ego well going forward."

The reintegration of Warner and co-conspirator Steve Smith has already begun with the pair meeting the one-day team after their bans expired late last month.

Australian cricket chief Kevin Roberts recently said team-mates don't always need to be "best mates".

"In any workplace, you don't need to be best mates with everyone, but there needs to be a foundation of respect and I think there is growing respect there," he said.

https://www.sport24.co.za/Cricket/warners-ego-must-be-managed-warns-biff-20190410
 
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