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Will Liverpool FC win the Premier League Trophy for the 2019/20 season?

Will Liverpool FC win the Premier League Trophy for the 2019/20 season?

  • Yes, they have the firepower to win the trophy this season

    Votes: 8 80.0%

  • No, they will falter and lose steam by end of the season

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Total voters
    10
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Top of the table and with very few weaknesses to show - are we looking at the Premier League winners in action?

Discuss.
 
Looking like champions in the games they have played so far - no reason to think they cant be champions this season (or is there?)
 
They have a 100% record so far.

So definitely have what it takes.

It will be between City once again.
 
NO. ManCity will win it by at least 2 games (That's confirming EPL by 36th game). LFC's first XIV can beat any team on a day at any venue, so it'll be a force in CL and might make the Final again. But, winning EPL is a 38 games marathon - it's impossible to win EPL with that bikini thin squad. We were extremely lucky last year that the forward line, the GK & VVD didn't suffer any major injury lay-off, but we won't be lucky every year. Already Alisson has got injured and our back-up is a guy released by West Ham!!!!! and the 2nd GK last played on bench for a League Division 2 (4th tier) team. So far, we have conceded 3 goals in 3 games (1 each, no clean sheet), still have managed 9 points - won't be so lucky every time and I see a decline in VVD's from his 2018-19 unreal level; 75+ games for LFC & Holland where he plays every minute has started to take it's toll.

My hunch is we'll be a "safe" 2nd, only because Chelsea, ManU, Arsenal are in shambles and Spurs are going to lose Eriksen, might be Poch as well. What Klopp will do is sacrifice ELF Cup & FA Cup by early January, but still this year he'll have to play the World Club Cup in December, then 12 games in 35 days in January.
 
Don't know why the regular season is given so much importance in European leagues. In American sports, it's all about the playoffs. Whoever performs on the biggest stage under pressure is rightly praised.

Liverpool's already the best team because they performed on the biggest stage, despite injury to their best players. They have nothing to prove.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Don't know why the regular season is given so much importance in European leagues. In American sports, it's all about the playoffs. Whoever performs on the biggest stage under pressure is rightly praised.

Liverpool's already the best team because they performed on the biggest stage, despite injury to their best players. They have nothing to prove.
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It's given importance because it shows who is the most consistently good team. To win the league, you have to maintain a very high level of performance over 38 games, testing the fitness and willpower as well as the consistency of the team. You can't fluke a league title.

That being said, I still think Man City are the more consistent team and their squad depth cant even be compared to Liverpool's. It's Man City's title to lose.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Don't know why the regular season is given so much importance in European leagues. In American sports, it's all about the playoffs. Whoever performs on the biggest stage under pressure is rightly praised.

Liverpool's already the best team because they performed on the biggest stage, despite injury to their best players. They have nothing to prove.
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Which is why American sports are nonsense and not taken seriously outside America. Winning the league is of utmost importance, and no team in England can claim to be the best unless they prove it by winning the league.
 
Liverpool were very lucky with injuries last season, but they still found a way to surrender a 7 point lead. It was a golden opportunity for them and it will be much harder this year.

City have strengthened, Liverpool haven’t, and they might be less lucky with injuries this year.

Nonetheless, the premier league is slowly becoming like La Liga - a two horse race.
 
Squad depth is a major concern, especially considering they’ve got to participate in the World Club Championship in the busiest month of the PL season.

It’ll be tough, need the signings from last year to kick on and some luck.
 
Between City & Liverpool. We have the team to win it but will depend on luck with injuries & if our defensive work is as good as last season. I’m backing the Reds to bring the title home this season.
 
Mamoon said:
Liverpool were very lucky with injuries last season, but they still found a way to surrender a 7 point lead. It was a golden opportunity for them and it will be much harder this year.

City have strengthened, Liverpool haven’t, and they might be less lucky with injuries this year.

Nonetheless, the premier league is slowly becoming like La Liga - a two horse race.
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Not lucky at all. They hired Kornmayer as head of fitness. This man is brilliant and has been a revolution with his ideas and techniques as a result of which the players remained mostly injury free last season and due to which AOC was able to make a quicker recovery than expected.
 
uberkoen said:
Not lucky at all. They hired Kornmayer as head of fitness. This man is brilliant and has been a revolution with his ideas and techniques as a result of which the players remained mostly injury free last season and due to which AOC was able to make a quicker recovery than expected.
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Liverpool players are undoubtedly super-fit. You only need to look at the intensity with which they press throughout the game. However, it is not just about recovery and overcoming fatigue in between matches.

Injuries can happen to anyone. One misstep on the pitch and you can break an ankle, get an ACL, tear an Achilles’ tendon etc. What happened to Ox could have happened to Salah, Mane or Van Dijk as well, so Liverpool was definitely lucky on this front.
 
they have no chance, not with that MF and a single injury to there front 3 will kill them, they were lucky last season, i see MC as the only complete squad especially after rodri, they will wrap up the season by december.
 
Mamoon said:
Which is why American sports are nonsense and not taken seriously outside America. Winning the league is of utmost importance, and no team in England can claim to be the best unless they prove it by winning the league.
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Can say the same about European sports if you're not gonna give any reasoning. Basketball, baseball, hockey are played outside America. Basketball is arguably the second most popular sport in the world.
 
Firebat said:
It's given importance because it shows who is the most consistently good team. To win the league, you have to maintain a very high level of performance over 38 games, testing the fitness and willpower as well as the consistency of the team. You can't fluke a league title.

That being said, I still think Man City are the more consistent team and their squad depth cant even be compared to Liverpool's. It's Man City's title to lose.
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That does not answer my question. American sports have lengthy seasons as well but they're to decide playoff seedings, not the damn title.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Can say the same about European sports if you're not gonna give any reasoning. Basketball, baseball, hockey are played outside America. Basketball is arguably the second most popular sport in the world.
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We should compare football in Europe to soccer in America. The MLS clearly illustrates the flaw in the American system.

You can finish 7th after 34 games and still end up as MLS champion by prevailing in the play-offs.

Ibrahimovic, one of the greatest players to ever grace the competition has criticized the system as well:

“I think the system is s***, how can you learn mentality if you only have to reach the playoffs?

You just need to win the playoffs, and that's it. The results in each game are important, but here, if you come in seventh place, you make the playoffs and win, you are champion.

For me, the mentality is every day, training the way you train is the way you play a game, and with the MLS system, how do you create that mentality to be on your toes 24 hours? It's very difficult."

https://www.espn.com/soccer/zlatan-ibrahimovic/story/3916588/ibrahimovic-blasts-mls-playoffs-system

The MLS needs to adopt the European (and South American and Asian) model and make the Supporters' Shield the premier MLS title.

As long as it doesn’t reward consistency like other leagues, it will always remain an inferior competition.
 
Liverpool got off to a good start. They need to continue the good work.

I think they are capable of winning the whole thing. Fingers crossed.
 
Mamoon said:
We should compare football in Europe to soccer in America. The MLS clearly illustrates the flaw in the American system.

You can finish 7th after 34 games and still end up as MLS champion by prevailing in the play-offs.

Ibrahimovic, one of the greatest players to ever grace the competition has criticized the system as well:

“I think the system is s***, how can you learn mentality if you only have to reach the playoffs?

You just need to win the playoffs, and that's it. The results in each game are important, but here, if you come in seventh place, you make the playoffs and win, you are champion.

For me, the mentality is every day, training the way you train is the way you play a game, and with the MLS system, how do you create that mentality to be on your toes 24 hours? It's very difficult."

https://www.espn.com/soccer/zlatan-ibrahimovic/story/3916588/ibrahimovic-blasts-mls-playoffs-system

The MLS needs to adopt the European (and South American and Asian) model and make the Supporters' Shield the premier MLS title.

As long as it doesn’t reward consistency like other leagues, it will always remain an inferior competition.
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Basketball, Hockey and Baseball have solved that problem by playing a series instead of one-game elimination.

I don't have a problem with consistency being rewarded but a league title entirely based on ranking is an empty one. There's simply no test under pressure which all champions must go through.

Consistency is rewarded in American sports by home-court advantage which is crucial in the playoffs. Your physical and mental fortitude is truly tested by playing multiple long grueling series. Rarely does it happen that a bottom ranked team can go through this test to become champions.
 
Mamoon said:
We should compare football in Europe to soccer in America. The MLS clearly illustrates the flaw in the American system.

You can finish 7th after 34 games and still end up as MLS champion by prevailing in the play-offs.

Ibrahimovic, one of the greatest players to ever grace the competition has criticized the system as well:

“I think the system is s***, how can you learn mentality if you only have to reach the playoffs?

You just need to win the playoffs, and that's it. The results in each game are important, but here, if you come in seventh place, you make the playoffs and win, you are champion.

For me, the mentality is every day, training the way you train is the way you play a game, and with the MLS system, how do you create that mentality to be on your toes 24 hours? It's very difficult."

https://www.espn.com/soccer/zlatan-ibrahimovic/story/3916588/ibrahimovic-blasts-mls-playoffs-system

The MLS needs to adopt the European (and South American and Asian) model and make the Supporters' Shield the premier MLS title.

As long as it doesn’t reward consistency like other leagues, it will always remain an inferior competition.
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You’ll find most elite clubs(outside the prem) rate winning the Champions League higher than their own league and most people rate major cup competitions higher as evidenced by previous Ballon D’or winners.

I get where you are coming from but I disagree. Man City aren’t coming everyday working harder than the other teams, Pep is a fraud and has bought a squad consisting of a B team that is capable of winning the league. The drop off isn’t significant and the reason they have managed to accumulate so many points over the last couple of years.

IMO Champions League is tougher, you are competing against the elites of European Football in do or die matches. Tactics and attitude have to be spot on or you’re out and unlike league football, no team will bend over for you. The quality is higher, you don’t see players rested as the priority is always the CL.

Ask any players to rank competitions and I’m pretty sure it’ll be something like this -

World Cup
European Cup/Copa America/ACON
Champion League
Domestic
Europa League
Domestic Titles
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Basketball, Hockey and Baseball have solved that problem by playing a series instead of one-game elimination.

I don't have a problem with consistency being rewarded but a league title entirely based on ranking is an empty one. There's simply no test under pressure which all champions must go through.

Consistency is rewarded in American sports by home-court advantage which is crucial in the playoffs. Your physical and mental fortitude is truly tested by playing multiple long grueling series. Rarely does it happen that a bottom ranked team can go through this test to become champions.
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The title race between Man City and Liverpool last season. How was that not a physical and mental test?

By February, it was clear that both teams had to win every game to stay top. Their is intense pressure in a league format when you have 2-3 teams at a similar level.
 
QuickCrick said:
YouÂ’ll find most elite clubs(outside the prem) rate winning the Champions League higher than their own league and most people rate major cup competitions higher as evidenced by previous Ballon DÂ’or winners.

I get where you are coming from but I disagree. Man City arenÂ’t coming everyday working harder than the other teams, Pep is a fraud and has bought a squad consisting of a B team that is capable of winning the league. The drop off isnÂ’t significant and the reason they have managed to accumulate so many points over the last couple of years.

IMO Champions League is tougher, you are competing against the elites of European Football in do or die matches. Tactics and attitude have to be spot on or youÂ’re out and unlike league football, no team will bend over for you. The quality is higher, you donÂ’t see players rested as the priority is always the CL.

Ask any players to rank competitions and IÂ’m pretty sure itÂ’ll be something like this -

World Cup
European Cup/Copa America/ACON
Champion League
Domestic
Europa League
Domestic Titles
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Generally, clubs value the Champions League more than the league, but it is also depends on the club and the context. For example, City would definitely prefer to win the Champions League, but as far as Liverpool is concerned, they would probably prefer the league at this point.

In fact, a few days after the Champions League Final, Salah said it on record that he would have preferred the league. This disproves the notion that all players value the Champions League over the league.

Also, whether the Champions League is tougher to win is debatable. You don’t have to be the best team in your country to win the supposedly toughest and most prestigious competition in club football.

Liverpool won it in 2005 after finishing 5th (and behind Everton) in the league, Chelsea won it in 2012 after finishing 6th (and behind Newcastle), and more pertinently, Madrid have won it 4 times in this decade in spite of embarrassing themselves in their own country, with only 2 league titles in this decade, a league where the only genuine competitor is Barcelona.

Do you not find if strange that other Spanish clubs didn’t bend down to the richest and baddest club in Spain, and why they have been second best (and sometimes third best) in spite of your assumption that your tactics and attitude do not have to be spot on to win the league?

Yet somehow, this team has managed to dominate the so-called toughest competition in club football. What does that say about the toughest competition? I would say it devalues it, because it clearly shows that you don’t have to be the best team in your country to win the biggest prize.

To win the league, you have to be the best in your country. It is a true test of your skill, character, resilience and fitness. That is why City today is a better team than Liverpool and Barcelona is better than Madrid, even though Liverpool and Madrid have won more Champions Leagues recently.

Finally, Pep is not a fraud - he is one of the greatest of all time who has revolutionized modern football. When he took over at Barcelona in the summer of 2008, Barcelona had finished the previous season 19 points behind Madrid and didn’t win a trophy.

Within 12 months, he took that team and made them a ruthless winning machine that won the treble. In spite of being an unproven young manager, he had the cojones to phase out the likes of Ronaldinho, Henry, Deco, Zambrotta, Yaya etc. and replace them with La Masia graduates like Pedro, Busquets, Pique etc. He also converted Messi into a false 9 which increased his goal tally by 2-3 times.

Name one fraud manager that can take a flop team and make them treble winners in less than a year, that too with a net spend of around £50m only.

Is largely Pep dependent on money today? Yes of course, but so are other managers. That is what modern football is. Do you think the tactical genius Klopp would have won the Champions League without £66m Alisson and £75m Van Dijk? Obviously not.
 
in_cutter said:
Lol same was said last season, and the season before. Explain how the team is overrated?
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Salahs form won't last forever. Firmino is going to run out of gas. And their midfield is painfully mediocre, there's no X factor or creating spark. You just have work horses like Milner or Fabinho. There's no technical mid like De bruyne, de Jong, Eriksen, etc. If they face a team that can park the bus well they will struggle. They would surely lose against Atletico of 2013/14 and Juventus of 2016/17.
 
HappyWarsFan said:
Salahs form won't last forever. Firmino is going to run out of gas. And their midfield is painfully mediocre, there's no X factor or creating spark. You just have work horses like Milner or Fabinho. There's no technical mid like De bruyne, de Jong, Eriksen, etc. If they face a team that can park the bus well they will struggle. They would surely lose against Atletico of 2013/14 and Juventus of 2016/17.
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What does this matter? You said Klopp will get exposed soon as his team will fail vs teams that park the bus well like these 2 you've just mentioned, but what team in world football right now, let alone the premier league (which is what this thread is about) can park the bus like these teams. Liverpool have dominated every single Premier League team in the last two years except for Manchester City (and that's definitely not due to City's ability to park the bus). By your logic, Klopp will never get exposed in the Premier League as they won't ever face teams like Atletico 2013/14 or Juventus 2016/17.

I'd go as far as to say they won't face a team like that in the champions league this season either. Ateltico are severly weakened frok that team as they've lost the likes of Godin and Griezmann. Perhaps Juventus are the best team defensively, but even they got defensively exposed by the quickfire Barca-esque passing of Ajax. Also, with players like Ronaldo in attack it's unlikely they'd ever park the bus.

I agree that Liverpool's squad depth will be their downfall, but to say that Klopp will be exposed this season when they come up against teams like Atletico 2013/14 or Juventus 2016/17 is irrelevant, as they won't ever face sides like that this season.
 
Yes we will! Being an eternal optimist there is no reason as to why we can not be crowned champs come the end of the season. Need to watch out for the the banana skins and win most if not all our home matches. Our bench appears incredibly powerful as well, it's all good. Origi, Shaqiri and the youngster Brewster can come from the bench to make an impact. The somewhat lack of creativity in the middle that many are talking off can be nullified by the forwards as seen last and thus far this season. The midfield will improve to when Ox returns to form and Naby Keita comes back from injury. European Champs last season and finalists the season before, overrated!!!?:klopp
 
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HappyWarsFan said:
Salahs form won't last forever. Firmino is going to run out of gas. And their midfield is painfully mediocre, there's no X factor or creating spark. You just have work horses like Milner or Fabinho. There's no technical mid like De bruyne, de Jong, Eriksen, etc. If they face a team that can park the bus well they will struggle. They would surely lose against Atletico of 2013/14 and Juventus of 2016/17.
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Sorry but all this sounds like sour grapes..,,ANY team would struggle vs a parked bus. Firminho will run out of gas? You are sure of this because...there was no DeBruyne last season....didn’t do too badly.
 
HappyWarsFan said:
Salahs form won't last forever. Firmino is going to run out of gas. And their midfield is painfully mediocre, there's no X factor or creating spark. You just have work horses like Milner or Fabinho. There's no technical mid like De bruyne, de Jong, Eriksen, etc. If they face a team that can park the bus well they will struggle. They would surely lose against Atletico of 2013/14 and Juventus of 2016/17.
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A overrated team that has reached to Europe finals on the trot :irfan

You must be a Man U fan.
 
MMHS said:
NO. ManCity will win it by at least 2 games (That's confirming EPL by 36th game). LFC's first XIV can beat any team on a day at any venue, so it'll be a force in CL and might make the Final again. But, winning EPL is a 38 games marathon - it's impossible to win EPL with that bikini thin squad. We were extremely lucky last year that the forward line, the GK & VVD didn't suffer any major injury lay-off, but we won't be lucky every year. Already Alisson has got injured and our back-up is a guy released by West Ham!!!!! and the 2nd GK last played on bench for a League Division 2 (4th tier) team. So far, we have conceded 3 goals in 3 games (1 each, no clean sheet), still have managed 9 points - won't be so lucky every time and I see a decline in VVD's from his 2018-19 unreal level; 75+ games for LFC & Holland where he plays every minute has started to take it's toll.

My hunch is we'll be a "safe" 2nd, only because Chelsea, ManU, Arsenal are in shambles and Spurs are going to lose Eriksen, might be Poch as well. What Klopp will do is sacrifice ELF Cup & FA Cup by early January, but still this year he'll have to play the World Club Cup in December, then 12 games in 35 days in January.
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Remember who’s choice it was to have that thin squad as well
 
Mamoon said:
Liverpool were very lucky with injuries last season, but they still found a way to surrender a 7 point lead. It was a golden opportunity for them and it will be much harder this year.

City have strengthened, Liverpool haven’t, and they might be less lucky with injuries this year.

Nonetheless, the premier league is slowly becoming like La Liga - a two horse race.
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When Klopp and Pep leave , premier league won’t be a 2 horse race.
 
Liverpool have a chance in the premier league. They obviously need to keep their players fit . City have unreal depth and Pep is so demanding.

Expect City to win the tittle. Hopefully this is Peps last year in the PL. As much as I enjoy watching his teams , I don’t want to see Liverpool and City dominate the PL forever.

I don’t expect Liverpool and City to be so dominate when their managers leave. The squads are literally built for them, also you won’t find managers that demanding who are as good.
 
I tihnk it could be Liverpool's season regarding the Premier League, but they'll need Salah and Van Dijk to remain injury-fee all season.
 
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Look the part LFC - Man City have some tough competition on their hands.
 
Manchester City's defeat to Norwich must be a huge boost for Liverpool?
 
Things are looking good for Liverpool in the Premier League. Top of the table with zero defeat.

5 games, 5 wins.
 
Man City will struggle without Laporte. However, one cannot take them lightly. Liverpool are 5 points clear and we need to ensure that we don't let it slip like last season. This season we look to have that fluidity in attack that was there under Rodgers and the initial Klopp seasons and also the strong defense that helped us finish 2nd last season. However, it is still pretty early and a lot can happen between now and the end of the season
 
Big win for City today, 2 points behind... but Liverpool have a game in hand. Hopefully Chelsea put up a good show tomorrow.
 
Liverpool is looking brilliant this time. They are scoring 3 goals per game on average.

Championship should go to either Manchester City or Liverpool.
 
Looking like an unbeatable team so far.
 
Liverpool makes it 8 wins in 8 games.

It is about time they win the trophy. They last won it almost 20 years ago.
 
Looking good for the boys in red, City already falling away.
 
Chugging along nicely! The trophy for the taking.
 
Virgil van Dijk believes Liverpool’s comfortable victory in the Merseyside derby confirmed every member of Jürgen Klopp’s squad is ready and content to play their part in the club’s pursuit of the Premier League title.

Klopp made five changes against Everton but witnessed no disruption as his league leaders swept aside Marco Silva’s team on Wednesday. Xherdan Shaqiri marked his first start in seven months with the second goal in the 5-2 win and a fine overall display while Adam Lallana impressed in only his second league start of the season. Divock Origi flourished in a derby again with two goals in his fourth start of the Premier League campaign.

Van Dijk insists Liverpool’s performance level would not have been possible without squad players feeling they have a vital role to play, and admits the derby bodes well for the demanding schedule ahead.

The Liverpool defender said: “The players who came into the team don’t play regularly at all. Look at Divock, Shaqiri, they did fantastic. We played Adam, Milly [James Milner]; everyone is contributing and we need everyone. That is the key message and it is good. The season is very long. This month is very long – January as well – so we need everyone to be ready.

“We have a big squad and everyone is part of what is going on at the moment. Everyone is happy with the situation we are in. And everyone is also feeling responsible as well, ready to play or if you are on the bench. Everyone is part of the success we have and that is the message to everyone and so far, so good.”

Klopp’s only complaint on the night concerned Liverpool’s defending, with his team failing to keep a clean sheet for 13 consecutive matches in all competitions.

“No one wants to concede goals even if you win the game,” said Van Dijk. “But I am not going to go to bed thinking: ‘Oh ****, we conceded a goal.’ It is all about the team winning games. We want to win in the best way possible and obviously that is by not conceding but if we win it with conceding then everyone is still happy.”

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...erpool-squad-players-everton?CMP=share_btn_tw
 
LFC 11 points clear and looks like Man City may be defeated vs Man U .... Title pakka?
 
Surely nothing can stop them, they will do it unbeaten
 
All over. LFC have got it in the bag already.
 
It's not even January and it already looks like Liverpool are going to win the PL after 30 years.
Also, it's nice to see Salah score again!
 
We're going to win the league
We're going to win the league

Now you're going to believe us.

We're going to win the league.
 
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