Will Pakistan be better off without military aid from the USA?

[MenInG]

Sounds simple but can Pak depend on other nations for a very crucial aspect of international aid?

 

[PakLFC]

The alternative is to keep begging the American's and keep sacrificing our people and soldiers to fight their war. Lets at least explore new avenues instead of giving in to their demands. As if we are not used to facing difficulties some more will not make much difference. In the long run we will free ourselves from American demands. No more to "do more". Enough is enough.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yes, military aid comes with conditions. Pakistan should have some self respect, elect clean leaders and not be in bed with a nation which is destroying nations and supporting dictators and pariah states.

 

[Yossarian]

Sounds simple but can Pak depend on other nations for a very crucial aspect of international aid?

The way I understand most (not all) Western aid, both military and civilian, that is given by governments, comes with very strong strings attached, which in the long term are very detrimental to the receiving country.

In nearly every case, there is a condition attached that requires all equipment and support services, needed for the project for which aid is provided, to be purchased from the aid giving country (at inflated prices). Not only does this have a detrimental effect on any local suppliers & producers, but also makes the aid receiving country dependent upon the maintenance and support for the equipment from the aid donating country even when the original aid has finished/ceased.

I'm betting that the US Military aid to Pakistan comes with these strings attached.

I cannot recall which African country, but when the government decided to bring electricity to remote communities in a particularly poorly developed region of the country, one Western government offered to provide aid to help fund some of the costs of the project, with the condition that not only was the power plant to be purchased from the aid donating country, but an additional condition was that the copper wiring for the transmission lines was also to be purchased from the aid donating country (the cost of which was not from any of the aid money), - which turned out to be at a greater cost than from an existing local supplier, which in turn resulted in killing the local suppliers business, with hundreds (maybe thousands) losing their jobs and livelihoods if one also includes all those suppliers down the supply chain.

And of course, all future maintenance, spare parts and support of the power plant (since it was purchased from the aid donating country) was guaranteed business for years to come.

For the aid donating countries 'aid' is akin to a store-owners 'loss leader', ie the product he sells at a loss, but which brings in additional customers that increase his overall turnover and profits by manyfold due to everything else they end up buying whilst in the store.

 

[Syed1]

Most of the 'aid' is payment for using our services

 

[Cosmic]

Can some one explain ? what is aid ? and what is US Aid ? Thank you

 

[indipper]

Never saw that aid reaching to common public so doesnt matter. Only few top seats may go itchy.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

trump using the old ‘russian’ Tricks to influence another election

Id wait for someone from the Pentagon to confirm first

 

[Yossarian]

Can some one explain ? what is aid ? and what is US Aid ? Thank you

Charity, from rich governments to poor countries. That's the theory anyway. The reality is a bit different, as in, for example, the USA gives more aid to Israel than to anyone else!

As to how it actually works (other than US military aid to Israel), see post #4 above.

 

[MenInG]

Well looks like that decision taken away from us!

 

[Bhaijaan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1865143669583417360

 

[Kianig89]

Pakistan will be better off , if they follow their constitution which has clearly written in it, equal distribution of wealth.

The disparity in income is one of the main reason why the society is regressing.

 

[sweep_shot]

Yes. I think Pakistan will be better off.

USA generally brings in dramas and problems alongside those aids.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Yes. I think Pakistan will be better off.

USA generally brings in dramas and problems alongside those aids.

No country gives aid for free that too military aid. In return that country expects the leadership of the country to dance to their tunes. If that country does not want to dance, then the money is off the table.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Every country should develop their own homegrown defense industry. At least the effort should be there towards it. Eventually there is a big chance that they can become self sufficient.
Buying expensive toys from foreign governments or accepting free money comes with a lot of strings attached.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Once you go to America and IMF for loans, there is no way out. You just cannot leave. Pakistan is stuck in the loop now and have no choice really.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Every country should develop their own homegrown defense industry. At least the effort should be there towards it. Eventually there is a big chance that they can become self sufficient.
Buying expensive toys from foreign governments or accepting free money comes with a lot of strings attached.

pak army is a paid mercenary for the highest bidder. Their entire generations are cursed since they indulged in haraam money.

Gen Ayub Khan, on his uninvited visit to US in Sep 1953, said this to an Assistant Secretary of State Henry Byroade:
”For Christ’s sake, I did not come here to look at barracks. Our army can be your army if you want [pay] us.”

 

[rpant_gabba]

Once you go to America and IMF for loans, there is no way out. You just cannot leave. Pakistan is stuck in the loop now and have no choice really.

not true. India went to IMF, paid the money back and left.

 

[BouncerGuy]

not true. India went to IMF, paid the money back and left.

Not like how Pakistan went. These politicians looted in the name of democracy

 

[rpant_gabba]

Not like how Pakistan went. These politicians looted in the name of democracy

So the issue is not IMF or America.

 

[Hitman]

"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" - Henry Kissinger.

I absolutely hate that man, but what he said is absolutely true.​

 

[Farhan The Man]

So the issue is not IMF or America.

Yes. It's the pakistani mentality, army and prodigies alike. Summed up rather succinctly in this article.

Dignity on sale

It was indeed a sad day in the history of Pakistan when our Federal Finance Munshi (or is it Minister?) Ishaq Dar claimed that his government will be able to

www.nation.com.pk

American attorney, Robert F Horan who prosecuted Aimal Kansi wanted in the USA for killing two CIA officials in an interview to a local TV channel said “these people” (read Pakistani’s) could sell their mothers for $ 20,000, why were millions of dollars given to them to facilitate the arrest of Kansi?” He went on to say "Pakistanis will sell their mothers for a dollar”.

 

[BouncerGuy]

"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" - Henry Kissinger.

I absolutely hate that man, but what he said is absolutely true.​

Perfectly summed up in context of Pakistan.