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Will Pakistan's record of nine consecutive series wins in T20Is ever be broken?

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistan last 9 T20I series:<br>Won<br>Won<br>Won<br>Won<br>Won<br>Won<br>Won<br>Won<br>Won<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1015919157047676928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Hey guys what do you think, will any team will able to be so consistent in T20s? 9 Consecutive series wins, its a serious milestone. :ssa
 
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To be fair it is nothing specail achievement .but having said there are few positive like winning consistently which is not norm for pak cricket and that will help this young side to grow further and that too in winning enviornment which is great.
 
Not in foreseable future. The gulf in class between Pakistan and the rest in T20s right now is huge.
 
Heard someone say that with the series win against England, India has won 6 consecutive T20 series now. Can anyone confirm this?
 
Mr.Q said:
Heard someone say that with the series win against England, India has won 6 consecutive T20 series now. Can anyone confirm this?
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That's correct.

Would have been eight if they didn't draw that one against Australia last year :P
 
The only team that could challenge Pakistan significantly in a t20 series is India. However they don't play so if Pakistan play to their full potential against other teams they should continue the streak.
 
I'd rather it be an odi streak tbh. T20s aren't as important right now with the world cup in a year.
 
T20 internationals are used for experimentation by teams. T20 belongs to club cricket. I wish India had played youngsters instead of these seasoned players, players on their last legs.
 
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand... you jinxed it. You just had to ask :mv
 
yes it can be broken but it is meaningless record.How many good teams has Pakistan beaten in those.
 
Would like to know who the oppositions were.
 
IPL is more valuable than these bilaterals T20 series IMO.
 
India has won 6th in a row yeasterday.They will break the record.Nevertheless, a very good achievement by Pakistan.Congrats.
 
India can easily do it, given they play most of their top players. Not sure if they will do it though, T20Is are nothing but experiment for India.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
India can easily do it, given they play most of their top players. Not sure if they will do it though, T20Is are nothing but experiment for India.
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if that was true we would have been trying Pant in this team already.

I hope it turns out to be true though.
 
It can be broken with the amount of cricket being played these days but this is hardly a major record and I won't lose any sleep if it is broken. We can break it ourselves as our next few T20I series are definitely winnable.
 
The friendly/sympathy series against World11 is also part of this list? Can someone post the list of opponents and venues plz
 
Brodipet_baadshah said:
The friendly/sympathy series against World11 is also part of this list? Can someone post the list of opponents and venues plz
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1. England in England
2. Windies in UAE
3. Windies in Windies
4. World XI in Pakistan
5. Sri Lanka in UAE/Pakistan
6. New Zealand in New Zealand
7. Windies in Pakistan
8. Scotland in Scotland
9. Aus/Zim (tri-series) in Zimbabwe
 
UN talkz said:
1. England in England
2. Windies in UAE
3. Windies in Windies
4. World XI in Pakistan
5. Sri Lanka in UAE/Pakistan
6. New Zealand in New Zealand
7. Windies in Pakistan
8. Scotland in Scotland
9. Aus/Zim (tri-series) in Zimbabwe
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Not to mention the “friendly, sympathy World XI” had Morkel, du Plessis, Amla, Tahir, Malan, and Tim Paine.

That includes the captains of AUS and SA, the highest ENG scorer of the Ashes, the best T20 spinner of the last five years, one of the best fast bowlers in the world and the best opener of the last decade.

But that’s not good enough for the first tour to a cricket-deprived nation...
 
ManFan said:
Not to mention the “friendly, sympathy World XI” had Morkel, du Plessis, Amla, Tahir, Malan, and Tim Paine.

That includes the captains of AUS and SA, the highest ENG scorer of the Ashes, the best T20 spinner of the last five years, one of the best fast bowlers in the world and the best opener of the last decade.

But that’s not good enough for the first tour to a cricket-deprived nation...
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Well...when was timpaine became fulltym captain for Australia? Was it before worldXI series or later?
 
Brodipet_baadshah said:
Well...when was timpaine became fulltym captain for Australia? Was it before worldXI series or later?
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He was selected for the Ashes based on the World XI series and Malan also.

Their performances in the Ashes led to Paine becoming a permanent keeper in the AUS XI and Malan in the ENG XI.

After the SA fiasco, Paine was named as captain in both ODI's and Test.

And its safe to say, that the World XI series helped earn his captaincy spot.
 
ManFan said:
He was selected for the Ashes based on the World XI series and Malan also.

Their performances in the Ashes led to Paine becoming a permanent keeper in the AUS XI and Malan in the ENG XI.

After the SA fiasco, Paine was named as captain in both ODI's and Test.

And its safe to say, that the World XI series helped earn his captaincy spot.
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performance in a t20 match lead to the selection in Tests thattooo Ashes..hmm interesting

Surprising thing is this one worldXI further lead to captaincy position as well at the time of crisis

If a mere t20 series can produce these kind of miracles in a player’s life/career all the players accross the world would be queueing up for a wordlXI t20 series against pak in pak by now...wondering why noo such series happened subsequently..any idea about the next one?
 
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Depends if other teams will experiment with their team or not. But very difficult to break this record.
 
Brodipet_baadshah said:
performance in a t20 match lead to the selection in Tests thattooo Ashes..hmm interesting

Surprising thing is this one worldXI further lead to captaincy position as well at the time of crisis

If a mere t20 series can produce these kind of miracles in a player’s life/career all the players accross the world would be queueing up for a wordlXI t20 series against pak in pak by now...wondering why noo such series happened subsequently..any idea about the next one?
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Please, if you are going to argue about a basic point, refrain from the tactics of red herrings and straw-mans.

It was a succession of events that led to two players becoming permanent members of their respective squads with one becoming captain of ODI and Test that began with their participation in the World XI. It is important to note that they had not been selected on regular intervals prior to that.

As far as the original argument, the World XI contained the current captains of AUS and SA, along with several world class players.

And WI did in fact tour Pakistan just three months ago. So...
 
Yes if you play so many consecutive series against weak opposition. India’s streak in T20s is far more impressive when you consider the opposition.
 
ManFan said:
Please, if you are going to argue about a basic point, refrain from the tactics of red herrings and straw-mans.

It was a succession of events that led to two players becoming permanent members of their respective squads with one becoming captain of ODI and Test that began with their participation in the World XI. It is important to note that they had not been selected on regular intervals prior to that.

As far as the original argument, the World XI contained the current captains of AUS and SA, along with several world class players.

And WI did in fact tour Pakistan just three months ago. So...
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Soo..hooo..the basic point is tim paine was not the Australian captain when that tour happened and he was not even a regular member in aussie team..Basically THAT particular worldXI is NOT a WorldXI selected by ICC as WorldT20XI or odi XI or testXI annually.. its just a worldXI of players who are INTERESTED in touring pakistan and CURRENT aussie captain was a nobody backthen..u r painting as if total world players competed for a spot in that worldXI..heck even the regular SL T20 captain Tharanga skipped the pak leg because of the mental scars from his previous tour and even the coach of SL gave a miss and the series got listed in the legendary streak..lolll

And you are talking abt windies tour of pak..can u list the names of windies team that toured pak? Who is the captain?
 
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Brodipet_baadshah said:
Soo..hooo..the basic point is tim paine was not the Australian captain when that tour happened and he was not even a regular member in aussie team..Basically THAT particular worldXI is NOT a WorldXI selected by ICC as WorldT20XI or odi XI or testXI annually.. its just a worldXI of players who are INTERESTED in touring pakistan and CURRENT aussie captain was a nobody backthen..u r painting as if total world players competed for a spot in that worldXI..heck even the regular SL T20 captain Tharanga skipped the pak leg because of the mental scars from his previous tour and even the coach of SL gave a miss and the series got listed in the legendary streak..lolll

And you are talking abt windies tour of pak..can u list the names of windies team that toured pak? Who is the captain?
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Again, if you are going to argue about the World XI, at least understand what I am saying.

As far as the WI tour, you stated “no series happened subsequently...what about the next one?”

And that side was led by Jason Mohammad and included Marlon Samuels, Fletcher, Badree, Ramdin, Powell, Walton.

The only notable exclusions were Keiron and Carlos. (Gayle did not even play the home T20 series against us).

And nice of you to ignore the rest of the Sri Lankan’s that showed up to play.
 
So 5 of the series are against a depleted WI, Sri Lanka and Ireland? Not so impressive streak I am afraid.
 
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Mamoon said:
Yes if you play so many consecutive series against weak opposition. India’s streak in T20s is far more impressive when you consider the opposition.
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OK let's analyse India's run.

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They beat NZ at home. That's good, but we beat NZ away.

They beat SL at home. We beat them at 'home' (UAE/PAK).

They beat SA away. Namely: Behardien, Duminy, Jonker, Hendricks, Klaasen, Phehlukwayo, Miller, Smuts, Morris, Paterson, Dala, Shamsi. Now that's a C team if there ever was one. :))

They won the Nidahas Trophy. Bangladesh and Sri Lanka... OK, very impressive. :cobra

They beat Ireland.... I suppose we can't claim to have done that.

They beat England. That's good, but we did it too.

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So basically India are better because they beat SA C?
 
Abdullah719 said:
OK let's analyse India's run.

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They beat NZ at home. That's good, but we beat NZ away.

They beat SL at home. We beat them at 'home' (UAE/PAK).

They beat SA away. Namely: Behardien, Duminy, Jonker, Hendricks, Klaasen, Phehlukwayo, Miller, Smuts, Morris, Paterson, Dala, Shamsi. Now that's a C team if there ever was one. :))

They won the Nidahas Trophy. Bangladesh and Sri Lanka... OK, very impressive. :cobra

They beat Ireland.... I suppose we can't claim to have done that.

They beat England. That's good, but we did it too.

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So basically India are better because they beat SA C?
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What was that WI team that tour Pakistan? WI Z team?

And then that World 11 team.LOL

You beat Eng in 1 solitary T20 while India did it in a 3 match series. There is a difference.

And India beat SA in SA.
 
cricketjoshila said:
What was that WI team that tour Pakistan? WI Z team?

And then that World 11 team.LOL

You beat Eng in 1 solitary T20 while India did it in a 3 match series. There is a difference.

And India beat SA in SA.
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So? The WI and World XI tours are part of the process of bringing cricket back to Pakistan. The result is just a statistic (which is admittedly good for us). No one is saying we beat the West Indies of the 70s.

England are overrated in T20Is anyway. They have only won 3 of their last 10 T20I series since 2016.

Yes, India beat SA C as I pointed out.

Anyway, I don't have an issue with India being called a team at a similar level to Pakistan, or one of the best teams. But this blind view of them being the best based on nothing doesn't really add up when you look closely. A poster above is laughing at the fact that 5/9 of our series were against lower level teams, but then again, 4/6 of India's series are also against weaker opposition (SL, Nidahas, Ireland, and SA C).

You were one of those foremost in pointing out Australia's not-so-strong team for the Tri-Series, so you should admit that India beat a below par SA team. Unless a team missing Amla, de Kock, de Villiers, Rabada, Tahir etc. is really SA's best team....
 
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Abdullah719 said:
So? The WI and World XI tours are part of the process of bringing cricket back to Pakistan. The result is just a statistic (which is admittedly good for us). No one is saying we beat the West Indies of the 70s.

England are overrated in T20Is anyway. They have only won 3 of their last 10 T20I series since 2016.

Yes, India beat SA C as I pointed out.

Anyway, I don't have an issue with India being called a team at a similar level to Pakistan, or one of the best teams. But this blind view of them being the best based on nothing doesn't really add up when you look closely. A poster above is laughing at the fact that 5/9 of our series were against lower level teams, but then again, 4/6 of India's series are also against weaker opposition (SL, Nidahas, Ireland, and SA C).

You were one of those foremost in pointing out Australia's not-so-strong team for the Tri-Series, so you should admit that India beat a below par SA team. Unless a team missing Amla, de Kock, de Villiers, Rabada, Tahir etc. is really SA's best team....
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India fielded the second string teams in nidahas and sl series whereas pak fielded first choice teams even in sympathy series like worldXI nd windiesZ.... there’s the difference
 
Abdullah719 said:
So? The WI and World XI tours are part of the process of bringing cricket back to Pakistan. The result is just a statistic (which is admittedly good for us). No one is saying we beat the West Indies of the 70s.

England are overrated in T20Is anyway. They have only won 3 of their last 10 T20I series since 2016.

Yes, India beat SA C as I pointed out.

Anyway, I don't have an issue with India being called a team at a similar level to Pakistan, or one of the best teams. But this blind view of them being the best based on nothing doesn't really add up when you look closely. A poster above is laughing at the fact that 5/9 of our series were against lower level teams, but then again, 4/6 of India's series are also against weaker opposition (SL, Nidahas, Ireland, and SA C).

You were one of those foremost in pointing out Australia's not-so-strong team for the Tri-Series, so you should admit that India beat a below par SA team. Unless a team missing Amla, de Kock, de Villiers, Rabada, Tahir etc. is really SA's best team....
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The result is part of the 9 series win record. Isnt it? So if its just a stat then the series win record is also a stat only.

Now since India has beaten England they are overrated. Couple of weeks back they were hailed as a giant that will stomp India.

That SA C side in SA is still better that WI Z team or WXI team in Pakistan.

We won the Nidhas Trophy by sending a C team. While Pakistan fielded a full strength team even againist as WI Z team.Thats the dfference.

If you think beating any SA team in SA is to be considered a easy win series then i am afraid except the Nz in NZ series and the one off T20 win againist Eng rest of Pakistan's series were even easier.

There is a diff in beating a team in their home and beating them elsewhere.
 
Brodipet_baadshah said:
India fielded the second string teams in nidahas and sl series whereas pak fielded first choice teams even in sympathy series like worldXI nd windiesZ.... there’s the difference
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Like I said, the series was more about #CricketComingHome and less about the result. We needed to put smiles on the faces of the fans and we needed to have a big turnout. Playing a full strength team was necessary. The tours were historic from the perspective of international cricket being played in Pakistan, it would have been insulting to the fans if we dropped Amir and Hasan and played Anwar and Bhatti.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Like I said, the series was more about #CricketComingHome and less about the result. We needed to put smiles on the faces of the fans and we needed to have a big turnout. Playing a full strength team was necessary. The tours were historic from the perspective of international cricket being played in Pakistan, it would have been insulting to the fans if we dropped Amir and Hasan and played Anwar and Bhatti.
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So you are not going to count those two series in the streak...right?
 
cricketjoshila said:
The result is part of the 9 series win record. Isnt it? So if its just a stat then the series win record is also a stat only.

Now since India has beaten England they are overrated. Couple of weeks back they were hailed as a giant that will stomp India.

That SA C side in SA is still better that WI Z team or WXI team in Pakistan.

We won the Nidhas Trophy by sending a C team. While Pakistan fielded a full strength team even againist as WI Z team.Thats the dfference.

If you think beating any SA team in SA is to be considered a easy win series then i am afraid except the Nz in NZ series and the one off T20 win againist Eng rest of Pakistan's series were even easier.

There is a diff in beating a team in their home and beating them elsewhere.
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You are deflecting. The original point was that India's six series streak is better than Pakistan's nine series streak, which doesn't add up as we've done all that India has done, besides beating South Africa C (since we didn't face South Africa).

I never called England a T20I giant, some people may believe that but I believe they are a weak team as bowling is very important in T20Is and their bowling is just rubbish. I provided you with stats. Do you think winning 3 off their last 10 series is an impressive outcome?

About the full strength team against WI XYZ, see my previous post above on the topic.

The teams we faced in NZ and England were missing much fewer key players than the SA C team which India faced. SA were literally without 5 off their 6 best players (Miller being the exception).

Again, I don't see how India is the better team on the basis of the recent series comparison. I am no disputing the fact that they are a very good team, and obviously one of the best teams at the moment.
 
UN talkz said:
1. England in England
2. Windies in UAE
3. Windies in Windies
4. World XI in Pakistan
5. Sri Lanka in UAE/Pakistan
6. New Zealand in New Zealand
7. Windies in Pakistan
8. Scotland in Scotland
9. Aus/Zim (tri-series) in Zimbabwe
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Only England in England and NZ in NZ are tough. The rest are joke teams.
 
India whitewashing Australia in Australia in a 3 match series was quite impressive.
 
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