Will Sharjeel Khan's ban be over by 2019 World Cup?

[ExpressPacer]

Title pretty much explains it. Side note; I'm talking about the 2.5 year ban.

 

[Hedz]

We don’t need him anymore and after his mistakes we shouldn’t even consider it.
We have so much talent
Don’t need Sharjeel or Salman butt

 

[ExpressPacer]

We don’t need him anymore and after his mistakes we shouldn’t even consider it.
We have so much talent
Don’t need Sharjeel or Salman butt

Here's the problem. The PCB hasn't been able to prove any corruption on part of Sharjeel and have even gone on to the extent of accepting this. The mere fact that there has been no evidence brought forward thus far should be enough proof to understand that all of this was a propaganda by Sethi to secure his Holier than thou image and how vigilant he is when it comes to the PSL, supposedly his lovechild.

Anyway, like I said, Sharjeel Khan has been criminally targeted by the PCB without any evidence or proof of fraud whatsoever. I've come to accept that reality. Now I'm just waiting for the ban to end.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

If you consider the least possible ban(2.5 years) from the exact date it was implemented(Feb 10 2017), still it means that his ban will end around August 10-15 2019, which is after the World Cup has finished.

 

[another drop catch]

his career is finished

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

It's still possible though as Sharjeel has challenged the verdict of the tribunal. Also any decision from the PCB or its tribunals can change in matter of seconds considering the fact that there could be political changes in Pakistan next year.

Had this been from the ICC then it would have been game over for Sharjeel.

 

[ExpressPacer]

It's still possible though as Sharjeel has challenged the verdict of the tribunal. Also any decision from the PCB or its tribunals can change in matter of seconds considering the fact that there could be political changes in Pakistan next year.

Had this been from the ICC then it would have been game over for Sharjeel.

Yes, totally didn't consider that. I see it as being more of political target being achieved by Sethi rather than actual endeavor to fight corruption and fraud in Pakistan cricket. Unfortunately, our Sharjeel happened to be the unlucky one to be made the scapegoat.

This also gives me hope however, maybe the next Govt. can actually look into this case with scrutiny and honesty to find there is no proof against Sharjeel Khan. Not even a single text message.

 

[ExpressPacer]

If you consider the least possible ban(2.5 years) from the exact date it was implemented(Feb 10 2017), still it means that his ban will end around August 10-15 2019, which is after the World Cup has finished.

Oh no.. So that means that even if there is a 2.5 year ban, the World Cup would have finished. Hopefully they can reduce the ban even further after Sharjeel winning the case.

 

[backfootpunch]

Here's the problem. The PCB hasn't been able to prove any corruption on part of Sharjeel and have even gone on to the extent of accepting this. The mere fact that there has been no evidence brought forward thus far should be enough proof to understand that all of this was a propaganda by Sethi to secure his Holier than thou image and how vigilant he is when it comes to the PSL, supposedly his lovechild.

Anyway, like I said, Sharjeel Khan has been criminally targeted by the PCB without any evidence or proof of fraud whatsoever. I've come to accept that reality. Now I'm just waiting for the ban to end.

Thanks for pointing this out - so many on here who haven't read into it have just made the assumption he's guilty just because Sethi has said so

 

[Syed1]

His ban will be overturned after 2018 elections

 

[mak36]

For those criticising the decision, have you actually read it?

 

[ExpressPacer]

For those criticising the decision, have you actually read it?

That's all good but what's your point here?

 

[ExpressPacer]

His ban will be overturned after 2018 elections

That is IF PTI wins, and even then it is not guaranteed. Who knows? Maybe Sethi might continue as PCB Chairman. Even if he doesn't, it still guaranteed.

Nonetheless, all of this hypothetical talk is of no use as of now because the imminent reality looks as though PMLN is going to win again.

 

[Hamza_]

I think he is guilty. Khalid Latif's voice recordings are there

 

[ExpressPacer]

I think he is guilty. Khalid Latif's voice recordings are there

"think", with all due respect, my friend, is exactly my problem. All proof we, or even the PCB have are simply ASSUMPTIONS. Haywire, basically.

Sharjeel Khan can already take legal action against Sethi for vilification charges and the PCB for defamation and loss of money (IU contract) considering they have presented not a single piece of evidence against him.

And as far as Khalid is concerned, I'm not really perturbed as to where his career/case is headed but even if so, where are the voice recordings? In 2010, the ECB made sure to make all the evidence public, or at least present them to the accused's lawyer. None of that has happened here.

The PCB, and even Sharjeel Khan himself - have handled this case very unprofessionally. I can bet Sharjeel Khan doesn't even know what his rights are and HOW wrong PCB have gone here.

 

[Abdul]

Will never make a comeback even once he's completed his term and rightfully so.

 

[Mamoon]

Considering our rich and illustrious history of producing match-fixers, I have little reason to believe that Sharjeel is innocent who got framed by evil Sethi.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Yes, totally didn't consider that. I see it as being more of political target being achieved by Sethi rather than actual endeavor to fight corruption and fraud in Pakistan cricket. Unfortunately, our Sharjeel happened to be the unlucky one to be made the scapegoat.

This also gives me hope however, maybe the next Govt. can actually look into this case with scrutiny and honesty to find there is no proof against Sharjeel Khan. Not even a single text message.

Is there any news about another tribunal or the case going to the high court? If he has challenged the decision then he shouldn't wait too long otherwise he will miss a lot of cricket (if he is not guilty that is).

 

[ExpressPacer]

Will never make a comeback even once he's completed his term and rightfully so.

Rightly so? Don't see your vendetta behind this? As I've mentioned in post #15, the PCB have absolutely ZERO evidence against Sharjeel and therefore, while it is your right to opinion on whether or not he will be able to make a comeback, I don't understand why an educated individual would consider what the PCB has done as "right".

 

[ExpressPacer]

Considering our rich and illustrious history of producing match-fixers, I have little reason to believe that Sharjeel is innocent who got framed by evil Sethi.

I respect your insight but our history is completely irrelevant with regards to whatever has happened in the past when you're looking at a specific individual. This isn't a subjective matter.

And like I've said before, I admire Sethi for trying to bring cricket back to Pakistan - even if it may be for his personal vendettas - I wouldn't put 'framing' Sharjeel beyond him.

Considering there is absolutely no proof with regards to Sethi's claims being true, I'd say the odds are with Sharjeel. Also, applying your very own logic here, given Sethi's past attempts of presenting himself as the Savior of Pakistan cricket and to secure a holier than thou image, I have little reason to believe that Sethi did not orchestrate all of this.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Is there any news about another tribunal or the case going to the high court? If he has challenged the decision then he shouldn't wait too long otherwise he will miss a lot of cricket (if he is not guilty that is).

Considering it took MONTHS for the case to process earlier, I wouldn't expect anything to be happening anytime soon.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Considering it took MONTHS for the case to process earlier, I wouldn't expect anything to be happening anytime soon.

Well that's an opportunity for Sharjeel to get a better lawyer or dig more into his rights. The PCB should have something solid in order to suspend Sharjeel otherwise this is a bogus case. Let the people know what was said in the recordings and what Sharjeel accepted.

 

[Bilal7]

No. Besides, even if it is, he won't saunter back into the team without playing a few domestic matches at least. If he fails, he won't get another chance at ODI cricket. Even if he succeeds, he better hope Pakistan don't find another good opening batsmen by then.

His career is effectively over.

 

[Mamoon]

I respect your insight but our history is completely irrelevant with regards to whatever has happened in the past when you're looking at a specific individual. This isn't a subjective matter.

And like I've said before, I admire Sethi for trying to bring cricket back to Pakistan - even if it may be for his personal vendettas - I wouldn't put 'framing' Sharjeel beyond him.

Considering there is absolutely no proof with regards to Sethi's claims being true, I'd say the odds are with Sharjeel. Also, applying your very own logic here, given Sethi's past attempts of presenting himself as the Savior of Pakistan cricket and to secure a holier than thou image, I have little reason to believe that Sethi did not orchestrate all of this.

It is not irrelevant because there is a precedence. There is no reason why Sethi would specifically target Saint Sharjeel if the ACU had nothing on him. Now obviously Saint Sharjeel has the right to appeal in court so we will have to see how this ends, but their is an overwhelming chance that Saint Sharjeel was involved.

Unfortunately only in Pakistan will you see people sympathize with fixers and give benefit of doubt to them, and then we wonder why our players get involved in these things.

 

[ExpressPacer]

No. Besides, even if it is, he won't saunter back into the team without playing a few domestic matches at least. If he fails, he won't get another chance at ODI cricket. Even if he succeeds, he better hope Pakistan don't find another good opening batsmen by then.

His career is effectively over.

Thanks. And of course, can't disagree with that, even Mohammad Amir had to play some matches before coming back. And to expect Sharjeel to do that, I think there's a very little chance he might have a career hereon. But just wanted to know.

 

[ExpressPacer]

It is not irrelevant because there is a precedence. There is no reason why Sethi would specifically target Saint Sharjeel if the ACU had nothing on him.

What you're casually ignoring is the fact that Sethi is a politician who would obviously have personal vendettas, like I've mentioned in the previous post.

And again, your logic makes no sense, you cannot stereotype an entire nation or race because of a few people. That is just like jailing a black accusee over a white one because other black people were more involved in crime. That makes absolutely no sense. There is the need for an entire procedure and EVIDENCE for Sharjeel to be labelled a fraud.

Now obviously Saint Sharjeel has the right to appeal in court so we will have to see how this ends, but their is an overwhelming chance that Saint Sharjeel was involved.

Unfortunately only in Pakistan will you see people sympathize with fixers and give benefit of doubt to them, and then we wonder why our players get involved in these things.

Honestly, I don't see the need for the rhetoric, but nonetheless - why is there an "overwhelming" chance that Sharjeel Khan was involved? In fact, there is an overwhelming chance that he wasn't and there are a number of reasons for that:

1) The PCB delayed the judgement and the case to an eerily long extent which makes me and would make anyone suspicious of whether or not they even had any proof against him.

2) Sharjeel Khan was at the peak of his career, just got selected for NatWest T20 Blast and reports suggested that he was going to feature in the BPL, CPL and his manager was even in talks with people in the BBL after his mercurial performances in Australia.

3) Sharjeel never had a shady past. He wasn't the most out-going person and quite frankly, the least likely person to have spot-fixed. For example, as for Asif, given his drug offences and other problems, I wasn't really that shocked when he was found out.

4) There has been NO evidence brought forward by the PCB. No Text messages, no photographs, no videos, no bookies, no witnesses, NOTHING. And if you read the report, they even go on to accept this.

So by any means, there is more than an overwhelming chance that Sharjeel was NOT involved.

And as for your last comment, I personally think it is very ignorant of you to say that. I'm sorry but first of all, at no point have I sympathized with Sharjeel - I've simply presented facts. There is no bias. And secondly, there would be nothing wrong with me (or anyone) in sympathizing with him given he hasn't been PROVED guilty as of yet and until and unless there is concrete evidence against him, anyone can sympathize with him.

If he has fixed, I'd want him to be banned for life. I was very vocal and open about it in the initial thread. But nothing thus far suggests that he has, especially the PCB report itself!

 

[Mamoon]

What you're casually ignoring is the fact that Sethi is a politician who would obviously have personal vendettas, like I've mentioned in the previous post.

And again, your logic makes no sense, you cannot stereotype an entire nation or race because of a few people. That is just like jailing a black accusee over a white one because other black people were more involved in crime. That makes absolutely no sense. There is the need for an entire procedure and EVIDENCE for Sharjeel to be labelled a fraud.



Honestly, I don't see the need for the rhetoric, but nonetheless - why is there an "overwhelming" chance that Sharjeel Khan was involved? In fact, there is an overwhelming chance that he wasn't and there are a number of reasons for that:

1) The PCB delayed the judgement and the case to an eerily long extent which makes me and would make anyone suspicious of whether or not they even had any proof against him.

2) Sharjeel Khan was at the peak of his career, just got selected for NatWest T20 Blast and reports suggested that he was going to feature in the BPL, CPL and his manager was even in talks with people in the BBL after his mercurial performances in Australia.

3) Sharjeel never had a shady past. He wasn't the most out-going person and quite frankly, the least likely person to have spot-fixed. For example, as for Asif, given his drug offences and other problems, I wasn't really that shocked when he was found out.

4) There has been NO evidence brought forward by the PCB. No Text messages, no photographs, no videos, no bookies, no witnesses, NOTHING. And if you read the report, they even go on to accept this.

So by any means, there is more than an overwhelming chance that Sharjeel was NOT involved.

And as for your last comment, I personally think it is very ignorant of you to say that. I'm sorry but first of all, at no point have I sympathized with Sharjeel - I've simply presented facts. There is no bias. And secondly, there would be nothing wrong with me (or anyone) in sympathizing with him given he hasn't been PROVED guilty as of yet and until and unless there is concrete evidence against him, anyone can sympathize with him.

If he has fixed, I'd want him to be banned for life. I was very vocal and open about it in the initial thread. But nothing thus far suggests that he has, especially the PCB report itself!

Sethi is a journalist and a politician and a clown and a whatever. As I said, I have no reason to believe that Sharjeel is a saint unless he is able to prove so. Forget the PCB report, you are conveniently ignoring the fact that the ICC ACU informed the PCB in the first place who have been watching Sharjeel for the last two years.

What 'vendetta' did they have against Saint Sharjeel?

Secondly, the PCB report explicitly states that Saint Sharjeel failed to prove his innocence. If you are looking for actual footage of him taking bribery then that is not going to happen because it was not a sting operation.

Finally, I am not saying that Saint Sharjeel is 100% guilty. If he is proven innocent, I will condemn Sethi and everyone who were involved in accusing him. However, till then, I am not going to sympathize with him and pretend that he was framed. I don't have faith in the conduct of our players.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Sethi is a journalist and a politician and a clown and a whatever. As I said, I have no reason to believe that Sharjeel is a saint unless he is able to prove so. Forget the PCB report, you are conveniently ignoring the fact that the ICC ACU informed the PCB in the first place who have been watching Sharjeel for the last two years.

First of all, there is nothing that suggests that the ICC ACU were the ones who informed the PCB about Sharjeel Khan, they only joined in later. But even if so, it is not like the ICC ACU is free of all false and has never gone wrong in the past. I remember them keeping an eye over Kamran Akmal when he had done nothing wrong.

What 'vendetta' did they have against Saint Sharjeel?

Not particularly Sharjeel. Sharjeel was simply made the scapegoat. We all know how badly Sethi has been trying to prove himself as the 'light at the end of the tunnel' for Pakistan cricket and this was quite possibly another attempt at trying to show his dedication and "vigilance" at the PSL.

Secondly, the PCB report explicitly states that Saint Sharjeel failed to prove his innocence. If you are looking for actual footage of him taking bribery then that is not going to happen because it was not a sting operation.

Finally, I am not saying that Saint Sharjeel is 100% guilty. If he is proven innocent, I will condemn Sethi and everyone who were involved in accusing him. However, till then, I am not going to sympathize with him and pretend that he was framed. I don't have faith in the conduct of our players.

So then we can come to one conclusion; both Sharjeel Khan and the PCB stand at equal ground. The PCB cannot prove that he has spot-fixed and Sharjeel Khan cannot prove otherwise. Don't understand how this can lead to Sharjeel Khan being banned. And anyway, how else does one even prove he is innocent in addition to everything he's already done?

The coach gave a statement in his favour, his captain said he wasn't sure about this and even Nasir Jamshed denied any contact with Sharjeel.

And the fact that you mention that you don't have faith in the conduct of our players shows a little bias. But we can let that be. Humans cannot be free of bias. It's natural.

 

[za1ntc]

Sethi is a journalist and a politician and a clown and a whatever. As I said, I have no reason to believe that Sharjeel is a saint unless he is able to prove so. Forget the PCB report, you are conveniently ignoring the fact that the ICC ACU informed the PCB in the first place who have been watching Sharjeel for the last two years.

What 'vendetta' did they have against Saint Sharjeel?

Secondly, the PCB report explicitly states that Saint Sharjeel failed to prove his innocence. If you are looking for actual footage of him taking bribery then that is not going to happen because it was not a sting operation.

Finally, I am not saying that Saint Sharjeel is 100% guilty. If he is proven innocent, I will condemn Sethi and everyone who were involved in accusing him. However, till then, I am not going to sympathize with him and pretend that he was framed. I don't have faith in the conduct of our players.

You don't have faith in the conduct of our corrupt (not proven) players yet you have so much faith in the corrupt (known) administration, you prefer to follow, and give the benefit of the doubt to those who are in higher offices of corruption and ensue corrupt practices on a day to day to basis yet don't give that same level of benefit to those who may not have committed such a crime, who may have made a mistake, who may have been in the wrong place at the wrong time, who may be completely innocent. You sounds to me like a hypocritical and condescending human being.

 

[Railu Katta]

Bring him back and replace selfie. Make our team strong. Forgive and forget.

 

[Mamoon]

You don't have faith in the conduct of our corrupt (not proven) players yet you have so much faith in the corrupt (known) administration, you prefer to follow, and give the benefit of the doubt to those who are in higher offices of corruption and ensue corrupt practices on a day to day to basis yet don't give that same level of benefit to those who may not have committed such a crime, who may have made a mistake, who may have been in the wrong place at the wrong time, who may be completely innocent. You sounds to me like a hypocritical and condescending human being.

There are no corruption charges against Sethi, and there is no reason why the govt. would scapegoat him. I don't want to give benefit of doubt to Sharjeel because there are no basis on which I can do that. The evidence against him is stronger than the evidence of his innocence. Please read the report released by the PCB.

Yes you can call me whatever you want, you have the liberty to do so. I know that Pakistani fans love their match-fixers, but I don't share that affection.

You can, by all means, live under the illusion that Saint Sharjeel was framed by Sethi and the govt. I am not interested in those conspiracies.

 

[Hasan123]

No this fixer should never represent Pakistan again. Need to deal with these fixers once and for all. I was all for Amir returning. But now looking back on it he should have been banned for life. If these players aren't dealt with a severe punishment they think they can get away with such corrupt actions and will continue to do so. So giving them a life ban will at least make them think twice.

He should never represent Pakistan again.

 

[Mamoon]

First of all, there is nothing that suggests that the ICC ACU were the ones who informed the PCB about Sharjeel Khan, they only joined in later. But even if so, it is not like the ICC ACU is free of all false and has never gone wrong in the past. I remember them keeping an eye over Kamran Akmal when he had done nothing wrong.



Not particularly Sharjeel. Sharjeel was simply made the scapegoat. We all know how badly Sethi has been trying to prove himself as the 'light at the end of the tunnel' for Pakistan cricket and this was quite possibly another attempt at trying to show his dedication and "vigilance" at the PSL.



So then we can come to one conclusion; both Sharjeel Khan and the PCB stand at equal ground. The PCB cannot prove that he has spot-fixed and Sharjeel Khan cannot prove otherwise. Don't understand how this can lead to Sharjeel Khan being banned. And anyway, how else does one even prove he is innocent in addition to everything he's already done?

The coach gave a statement in his favour, his captain said he wasn't sure about this and even Nasir Jamshed denied any contact with Sharjeel.

And the fact that you mention that you don't have faith in the conduct of our players shows a little bias. But we can let that be. Humans cannot be free of bias. It's natural.

So basically there is no proof that the ACU tapped the PCB, and there is no proof that Saint Sharjeel was involved in anything shady, but yet the establishment chose to target Saint Sharjeel of all people. Once again, why him? Throwing blanket statements that they have a political vendetta does not work.

Unless you are trying to imply that Saint Sharjeel's name came up from a lucky (or unlucky) draw, and they decided to frame him to prove their vigilance.

Let's also ignore the phone calls that Sharjeel received last year when he was being blackmailed into a payment of millions of rupees. Of course, it was the evil mastermind Sethi who was making those phone calls after Saint Sharjeel's name came out of the unlucky draw.

So basically Sharjeel has received shady phone calls in the past, the head of ICC ACU stated that a British Intelligence Agency had been watching Sharjeel, but all of that is part of the evil plan of Sethi. Of course, the convenient excuse is that they were mistaken, and Sharjeel has been targeted by different authorities due to some vendetta against him.

Unfortunately the problem is not the ban on Sharjeel; the problem is Sethi's involvement which is not acceptable for you and [MENTION=50321]za1ntc[/MENTION]. If it was a PTI guy in charge of the whole affair, then Sharjeel would clearly have been guilty.

No the PCB and Sharjeel are not on the same ground. The evidence against Sharjeel is stronger when you put two and two together, i.e. starting with the blackmailing phone calls, the involvement of the ICC ACU and Sharjeel and Khalid's meeting with a "friend" at a very convenient time.

As things stand, yes Sharjeel was involved. If he can prove it otherwise in court, people who accused him will owe him an apology and some hefty compensation. For the record, I would actually love to see him come out of this clean because he was a very good talent and Pakistan needs him.

 

[shaz619]

Title pretty much explains it. Side note; I'm talking about the 2.5 year ban.

Am not sure how this is going to end because appeals have been made from both sides so it's hard to say when he will be available for Pakistan at the moment, but you'd think his ban would be backdated regardless. Assuming his ban ends in 2019 itself am not sure he'd be ready to enter such a big tournament and deliver the same level of performances we've seen just before he got caught up in this mess

 

[sshakir411]

I want him back but I'm pretty sure he was involved in something or the other. A wild card is the appeal he's filing...but I think there's enough evidence that he was up to something.

 

[Hedz]

Na you can tell he’s guilty, otherwise who would have been more desperate in his attempts to get back, which he is not.
Also stop making up fake conspiracy theories as u see in the news. All absolute ********

 

[Hermoine Green]

Sorry to say but we need to put fullstop on this nonsense culture. He and all others should be banned permanently, and from now on this rule should be set by PCB. Otherwise corruption can't be stopped.