Will the Pakistan culture tolerate PSL cheerleaders?

[last_knight]

Have teams come up with any ideas ?

Knowing Pakistani Media, Having girls as cheerleaders in PSL will become a marketable issue for media and will be spiced up. And we know our religious scholars are always eager to cash such an issue for their own benefits.

Lahore and Peshawar have already gone lateral in naming their teams.

I am expecting Teenager boys to be cheerleaders. Dressed up in Provincial Traditional dressing and Ajrak, Dhoti, Shimla Paghrhi kinda stuff.

Have someone got any inside news ?

 

[kingusama92]

Cheerleaders are a must.

 

[dandapinda]

PSL cheerleaders

No cheer leaders no support....but please no Tahir Bahia style cheer leaders need ladies

 

[Suleiman]

We have them in UAE during our international games, so why not for the tournament? Especially since we'll have singing and dancing as well from Atif Aslam and co, so why not liven up the atmosphere?

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Many of us have same POV but these trends make their way through subconscious. And Cheerleaders in Twenty20 is a trend that has made its way very strongly.

If the latter make way through the subconscious then I guess the person is quite mentally weak. Cheer leading is not a Pakistani culture and PSL, in case people have missed, is a Pakistani Franchise based T20 competition. We keep on loosing perspective of exactly why have we created PSL ?? The core reasons were:

1) Create something for our very domestic players so that they earn equivalent to foreign players in other countries.
2) Establish a cricketing platform to bring Cricket back home
3) Help our youngsters share dressing room with professional coaches around the world and international stars from other countries.
3) Generate Good finances for the PCB

Cheerleading and all this crap would take perspective away from the above goals and I want the PCB and all our players and the administration to stay as much on point as possible. Plus the most important factor is that Cheer leading is not a Pakistani thing and never ingrained in our sporting culture. The quicker we realize this the better.

I am not a mullah or an extremist by any stretch of imagination but quite honestly I find these kinds of gimmicks cringe worthy and highly annoying to say the least.

 

[dandapinda]

If the latter make way through the subconscious then I guess the person is quite mentally weak. Cheer leading is not a Pakistani culture and PSL, in case people have missed, is a Pakistani Franchise based T20 competition. We keep on loosing perspective of exactly why have we created PSL ?? The core reasons were:

1) Create something for our very domestic players so that they earn equivalent to foreign players in other countries.
2) Establish a cricketing platform to bring Cricket back home
3) Help our youngsters share dressing room with professional coaches around the world and international stars from other countries.
3) Generate Good finances for the PCB

Cheerleading and all this crap would take perspective away from the above goals and I want the PCB and all our players and the administration to stay as much on point as possible. Plus the most important factor is that Cheer leading is not a Pakistani thing and never ingrained in our sporting culture. The quicker we realize this the better.

I am not a mullah or an extremist by any stretch of imagination but quite honestly I find these kinds of gimmicks cringe worthy and highly annoying to say the least.

Sounds nice in theory,but T20 leagues formed mainly for commercial reasons for all other reasons domestic cricket alone will be enough.

To achieve commercial goal you have to put as much as entertainment values possible.This no longer pure sports,this is combination of sports & entertainment.

 

[kingusama92]

If the latter make way through the subconscious then I guess the person is quite mentally weak. Cheer leading is not a Pakistani culture and PSL, in case people have missed, is a Pakistani Franchise based T20 competition. We keep on loosing perspective of exactly why have we created PSL ?? The core reasons were:

1) Create something for our very domestic players so that they earn equivalent to foreign players in other countries.
2) Establish a cricketing platform to bring Cricket back home
3) Help our youngsters share dressing room with professional coaches around the world and international stars from other countries.
3) Generate Good finances for the PCB

Cheerleading and all this crap would take perspective away from the above goals and I want the PCB and all our players and the administration to stay as much on point as possible. Plus the most important factor is that Cheer leading is not a Pakistani thing and never ingrained in our sporting culture. The quicker we realize this the better.

I am not a mullah or an extremist by any stretch of imagination but quite honestly I find these kinds of gimmicks cringe worthy and highly annoying to say the least.

But what is Pakistani culture?

I go to weddings and girls are doing coordinated dances all the time. Isn't that Pakistani culture?

Or is Pakistani culture seen in those weddings where everyone is segregated? If that is the case then do the fans in the crowd sit in a segregated manner too?

All I am saying is cheerleaders are a must.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Sounds nice in theory,but T20 leagues formed mainly for commercial reasons for all other reasons domestic cricket alone will be enough.

To achieve commercial goal you have to put as much as entertainment values possible.This no longer pure sports,this is combination of sports & entertainment.

I completely agree with your POV and as a matter of fact second the notion but entertainment in our culture is different than Cheer Leading. We could start games with a live concert performance of leading music artists from the country and trust me the music scene and industry in Pakistan is highly reputed around the world so this type of entertainment which syncs with our norms is perfectly acceptable. Cheer Leading is not !!

PSL is directed mainly at Pakistani Audience and crowd pulling could be more if we do something which people can relate to rather than carbon coping something which our people might even find offensive in some cases

 

[kingusama92]

It is also important to note Pakistan has had cheerleaders in its home matches.

Why not the PSL?

 

[dandapinda]

I completely agree with your POV and as a matter of fact second the notion but entertainment in our culture is different than Cheer Leading. We could start games with a live concert performance of leading music artists from the country and trust me the music scene and industry in Pakistan is highly reputed around the world so this type of entertainment which syncs with our norms is perfectly acceptable. Cheer Leading is not !!

PSL is directed mainly at Pakistani Audience and crowd pulling could be more if we do something which people can relate to rather than carbon coping something which our people might even find offensive in some cases

But how do you know what crowd wants?? Any poll done in Pakistan where millions of people said no yo entertainment?

Trust me your cultural shows in PSL looks awkward & out of place.

 

[Adnan Siddiqui]

Does pak vs nz will have? Does ,Big bash has?

 

[Bilal7]

Cheerleaders are not necessary, in any capacity. I'm sure most cricket fans would rather want to watch a replay of that terrific shot that Shane Watson played instead of looking at old-men spinning around in circles or some dancing women. This is a cricket league, not a cultural dance show.

 

[dandapinda]

Cheerleaders are not necessary, in any capacity. I'm sure most cricket fans would rather want to watch a replay of that terrific shot that Shane Watson played instead of looking at old-men spinning around in circles or some dancing women. This is a cricket league, not a cultural dance show.

Most cricket fans would be happy with domestic cricket as well why you need PSL??

 

[Bilal7]

It is also important to note Pakistan has had cheerleaders in its home matches.

Why not the PSL?

I don't think the PCB pays them. They probably come as extra-perks for the grounds we rent.

 

[Bilal7]

Most cricket fans would be happy with domestic cricket as well why you need PSL??

No, they wouldn't.

 

[dandapinda]

PSL cheerleaders

No, they wouldn't.

Why? a real cricket fan follows country domestic cricket.Now to attract casual fans you need all sorts of masala.

 

[Adnan Siddiqui]

What I remember neither big bash nor county t20 has cheer leaders. Pak vs Nz will not have.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

But how do you know what crowd wants?? Any poll done in Pakistan where millions of people said no yo entertainment?

Trust me your cultural shows in PSL looks awkward & out of place.

You don't need a freaking Poll to decide what people want You know..... you just have..... to get off your back side and take a stroll down the street or maybe, have a bunch of friends that you hang out with on a weekly basis.

Geez I don't know how they do stuff in India but if they run polls to decide or get social opinion on things such as what people like in general then i surely must visit the place ASAP it would be a spectacle for me - Quite honestly.

As far as PSL goes I am ok with Live concerts of even some stand up comedy before and after matches but Cheer Leading and stuff should be a very straight No no!! The latter will look more out of place than the former and this is coming from someone who is a born and bred Pakistani from the heart of the nation i.e. Karachi.

 

[dandapinda]

So, do you guys stop watching PSL if cheer leaders are there??

 

[kingusama92]

I like your effort, hand picking a video of Youtube when....... I don't know....... Pakistan has around 180 million people living across 4 massive provinces but in all seriousness, trust me dude, I know what I am talking about - Source: I was born, grew up and lived 21 years of my life in the country. I am 23 now and working in Malaysia [emoji14]

Anyways I can't run the video since I am in my office now but i'll take a look after work yo!!

I'm just teasing.

I completely agree. No need for cheerleaders. I even say the same for leagues here in North America.

Adds nothing to the game. NBA and NFL do it for their games.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Of course, reality is, people would be scared to vote their true thoughts in such a poll for the fear of being labelled a radical Muslim.

And it's also another fact, that I find NO place for cheerleading in CRICKET and to me it seems like we are trying to do something which WEST are actually good at. The level of cheerleaders is shocking, they can't sing, dance or do anything in tune. It's abysmal and there really is no point to having cheerleaders if they can't do it in tune.

 

[Professor]

No cheer leaders no support....but please no Tahir Bahia style cheer leaders need ladies

No support? So you only have watch and support cricket tournaments because of cheerleaders, That's kind of sad and desperate tbh.

 

[MenInG]

Post sensibly pls.

 

[dandapinda]

No support? So you only have watch and support cricket tournaments because of cheerleaders, That's kind of sad and desperate tbh.

I watch cricket without cheer leaders as well,but with cheer leaders and other entertainment it's like festival.

 

[Bilal7]

Why? a real cricket fan follows country domestic cricket.Now to attract casual fans you need all sorts of masala.

No one, except the most creepy and lonely of men, would go to a T20 match in order to watch the cheerleaders. An argument can be made for casual fans going to a ground to see a celebrity or athlete like Ali Zafar or Amir Khan but cheerleaders? I don't think so.

The PSL needs to focus on being the T20 league with the most quality, not another tamasha league like the IPL. You cannot beat the IPL at its own game but you can create a league that has its own niche and established target-market.

 

[dandapinda]

No one, except the most creepy and lonely of men, would go to a T20 match in order to watch the cheerleaders. An argument can be made for casual fans going to a ground to see a celebrity or athlete like Ali Zafar or Amir Khan but cheerleaders? I don't think so.

The PSL needs to focus on being the T20 league with the most quality, not another tamasha league like the IPL. You cannot beat the IPL at its own game but you can create a league that has its own niche and established target-market.

Quality needs quality players in every position you don't have that.

 

[Professor]

I watch cricket without cheer leaders as well,but with cheer leaders and other entertainment it's like festival.

I guess it's a matter of opinion but I think quality cricket and professional broadcasting makes a league sucessful. Having cheerleaders would make no difference in any way.

 

[dandapinda]

I guess it's a matter of opinion but I think quality cricket and professional broadcasting makes a league sucessful. Having cheerleaders would make no difference in any way.

Having cheer leaders doesn't make it Tamasha either.

 

[Bilal7]

Quality needs quality players in every position you don't have that.

Yes, we do have quality players in every position. Quality competition also needs quality pitches, teams of equal strength and a focus on cricket, not the fantasies of teenagers.

 

[dandapinda]

Yes, we do have quality players in every position. Quality competition also needs quality pitches, teams of equal strength and a focus on cricket, not the fantasies of teenagers.

What is quality pitch? How many grounds/pitches available ? Does teams have home & away games,if there who prepares pitches?
What is focus on cricket? Do you think players in all current T20 leagues focus on cheer leaders rather than cricket?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

What is quality pitch? How many grounds/pitches available ? Does teams have home & away games,if there who prepares pitches?
What is focus on cricket? Do you think players in all current T20 leagues focus on cheer leaders rather than cricket?

Bro, you are trying to argue with a deeply ingrained thought process created in every mind for at least 20 years of upbringing that cheerleading is not allowed in "religion".

No one will support you on this, not that easily anyways.

It would take years and years of paradigm shift to accept such stances.

 

[Bilal7]

What is quality pitch? How many grounds/pitches available ? Does teams have home & away games,if there who prepares pitches?
What is focus on cricket? Do you think players in all current T20 leagues focus on cheer leaders rather than cricket?

A quality pitch is one where all players get some sort of advantage. This is the first season and the scope will improve as this league matures. I don't care what other leagues do, the PSL has to be unique.

 

[dandapinda]

A quality pitch is one where all players get some sort of advantage. This is the first season and the scope will improve as this league matures. I don't care what other leagues do, the PSL has to be unique.

So if a high scoring game like 185,186 from 2 teams with exiting finish and less errors is not quality match because pitch doesn't favour much to bowlers?

What is unique,if you don't have cheer leaders or any other entertainment like current leagues your league becomes unique? It looks like your domestic T20

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

[MENTION=139829]dandapinda[/MENTION]

You do understand that target market is something franchises focus on when promoting PSL. THE TARGET MARKET IS PAKISTAN - why can't people get over this simply analogy

Cheer Leading will hold no relevance to the main target audience which is Pakistani Audience and it would put PSL in a very controversial light in the Media. You don't want any of this crap with PSL and therefore it is better and wiser to have no Cheer Leading etc etc during PSL.

Other kinds of entertainment which sits well and are generally accepted like live concerts and stand up comedy which would have no negative impacting can be done only, before or after the game. That's about it.

Remember how PZ traded their picks with IU during the draft. Why do you think they did that ?? To get Lala who is a huge name in cricketing fraternity in Pakistan and is a commercial dream for a sponsor if he's targeting the Pakistani Target Market

 

[msb314]

One cheerleader for each team:

Karachi Kings - Katrina Kaif
Lahore Qalanders - Bipasha Basu
Quetta Gladiators - Priyanka Chopra
Peshawar Zalmi - Deepika Padukone

 

[dandapinda]

One cheerleader for each team:

Karachi Kings - Katrina Kaif
Lahore Qalanders - Bipasha Basu
Quetta Gladiators - Priyanka Chopra
Peshawar Zalmi - Deepika Padukone

You have to sell franchises to afford them...nice dream though.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

And that might actually work.

Foreign cheerleaders might actually be bought by the crowd and general viewing, even though there will be whispers in certain quarters.

But local cheerleaders would be like a huge NO NO. That just can't happen.

 

[Bilal7]

So if a high scoring game like 185,186 from 2 teams with exiting finish and less errors is not quality match because pitch doesn't favour much to bowlers?

What is unique,if you don't have cheer leaders or any other entertainment like current leagues your league becomes unique? It looks like your domestic T20

A high-scoring game every now and then is great but if it becomes the norm, there is no more excitement in it. There needs to be matches where both teams score 200+ and matches where both teams struggle to get to 100. Most of the matches should be somewhere down the middle.

Yes, if we don't objectify women and make our focus the action that is going on in the ground, it will be quite unique. Whether hardcore or casual, cricket fans will come to watch cricket, like I've already said. We can use the money that would otherwise be spent on cheerleaders, to buy those Go-Pro cameras or a few drones with HD cameras attached.

If the cricket isn't good enough to entertain the fans, then the league has failed.

 

[dandapinda]

[MENTION=139829]dandapinda[/MENTION]

You do understand that target market is something franchises focus on when promoting PSL. THE TARGET MARKET IS PAKISTAN - why can't people get over this simply analogy

Cheer Leading will hold no relevance to the main target audience which is Pakistani Audience and it would put PSL in a very controversial light in the Media. You don't want any of this crap with PSL and therefore it is better and wiser to have no Cheer Leading etc etc during PSL.

Other kinds of entertainment which sits well and are generally accepted like live concerts and stand up comedy which would have no negative impacting can be done only, before or after the game. That's about it.

Remember how PZ traded their picks with IU during the draft. Why do you think they did that ?? To get Lala who is a huge name in cricketing fraternity in Pakistan and is a commercial dream for a sponsor if he's targeting the Pakistani Target Market

Pakistan is not alien country,don't your people dance to Bollywood music or don't watch Indian movies?

Live concert & stand up comedy during every match? Why do you need that..,,this is required only for opening ceremony.Cheer leaders used because that sits well with match situations (An American perfected product though)

Trading itself shows franchises are ready to do anything to get league commercially successful.

 

[dandapinda]

A high-scoring game every now and then is great but if it becomes the norm, there is no more excitement in it. There needs to be matches where both teams score 200+ and matches where both teams struggle to get to 100. Most of the matches should be somewhere down the middle.

Yes, if we don't objectify women and make our focus the action that is going on in the ground, it will be quite unique. Whether hardcore or casual, cricket fans will come to watch cricket, like I've already said. We can use the money that would otherwise be spent on cheerleaders, to buy those Go-Pro cameras or a few drones with HD cameras attached.

If the cricket isn't good enough to entertain the fans, then the league has failed.

How many times I have to write? If cricket alone enough you can put all these go pro / 3D camera etc I your regular domestic tourney....you need more entertainment to enthral audience both in ground & TV.

 

[Bilal7]

Pakistan is not alien country,don't your people dance to Bollywood music or don't watch Indian movies?

Live concert & stand up comedy during every match? Why do you need that..,,this is required only for opening ceremony.Cheer leaders used because that sits well with match situations (An American perfected product though)

Trading itself shows franchises are ready to do anything to get league commercially successful.

Pakistan is a more conservative society. I hope you realize that.

 

[Bilal7]

How many times I have to write? If cricket alone enough you can put all these go pro / 3D camera etc I your regular domestic tourney....you need more entertainment to enthral audience both in ground & TV.

So in your opinion, the only thing that will separate the PSL from the Faysal Bank T20 is a few dancing ladies? )

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Bro, you are trying to argue with a deeply ingrained thought process created in every mind for at least 20 years of upbringing that cheerleading is not allowed in "religion".

No one will support you on this, not that easily anyways.

It would take years and years of paradigm shift to accept such stances.

You are taking the course of this discussion into a place where it might get ugly and I would recommend that you shouldn't paint good educated Pakistan's, who also follow Islam, as their belief with the same brush as TV Mullah pundits who patronize the religion to be extremist and radical.

I am a practicing Muslim (I pray 5 times daily) and refrain from all vices such as drinking, fooling around etc etc - depends on how YOU perceive drinking and fooling around but you get the idea. However, I listen to Music, smoke a little bit (only casually) with my friends; watch movies in cinemas and keep up with modern fashion trends and I HAVE ALSO WATCHED PRON during my teenage years. I believe killing of innocents are not allowed in Islam and also think TTP are BAD PEOPLE.

The above, as far as I know, is how a normal Pakistani person thinks and acts in society. The masses usually comprise of average people like me and since PSL is targeted towards them I fundamentally believe Cheer Leading will not sit good with them and will create a somewhat slight controversy than making it more entertaining.

Therefore I want no such thing, Cheer Leading in particular to be associated with the PSL brand.

 

[dandapinda]

Pakistan is a more conservative society. I hope you realize that.

From outside,once you put all masala and people start enjoying them no body bothers about conservatism...you guys need to chill.

 

[dandapinda]

So in your opinion, the only thing that will separate the PSL from the Faysal Bank T20 is a few dancing ladies? )

Just mentioned cheer leading because you are talking like its big taboo,so if you opened it up then problem solved.

Nobody asking you to put girls in bikini, you can follow CSK model with full body suits.It may take couple of decades to achieve RCB style though.

 

[Bilal7]

From outside,once you put all masala and people start enjoying them no body bothers about conservatism...you guys need to chill.

I remember there being quite the uproar against the outfits of the IPL cheerleaders a few seasons back, after which the outfits became more conservative.

No need to tell us what to do, we have different values, morals and beliefs. What works for India will not work for Pakistan.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

You are taking the course of this discussion into a place where it might get ugly and I would recommend that you shouldn't paint good educated Pakistan's, who also follow Islam, as their belief with the same brush as TV Mullah pundits who patronize the religion to be extremist and radical.

I am a practicing Muslim (I pray 5 times daily) and refrain from all vices such as drinking, fooling around etc etc - depends on how YOU perceive drinking and fooling around but you get the idea. However, I listen to Music, smoke a little bit (only casually) with my friends; watch movies in cinemas and keep up with modern fashion trends and I HAVE ALSO WATCHED PRON during my teenage years. I believe killing of innocents are not allowed in Islam and also think TTP are BAD PEOPLE.

The above, as far as I know, is how a normal Pakistani person thinks and acts in society. The masses usually comprise of average people like me and since PSL is targeted towards them I fundamentally believe Cheer Leading will not sit good with them and will create a somewhat slight controversy than making it more entertaining.

Therefore I want no such thing, Cheer Leading in particular to be associated with the PSL brand.

No need to get defensive.

It's not what I want or support.

As I said, it's ridiculous to copy the Western style of cheerleading when you can't dance or move yourself the way they can. It looks just shocking to wave Pom-poms and pretend you are ultra-liberal.

My diction is well thought of and coherent.

How many men would actually let their women work in Pakistan, or choose to let their women work if they wanted to? But I don't wanna go towards that line.

Pakistan for all it's educated people and liberals, remains ultra conservative as far as female rights are concerned.

And a group of cheerleading girls would be led to commit suicide, rather than enjoy themselves, if it comes to that.

 

[dandapinda]

I remember there being quite the uproar against the outfits of the IPL cheerleaders a few seasons back, after which the outfits became more conservative.

No need to tell us what to do, we have different values, morals and beliefs. What works for India will not work for Pakistan.

You understand these are all just harmless discussion where people just express their opinions rather than ordering you to do certain things?

PSL is started only after success of many other T20 league this is not some new innovation so obviously have to take things what commercially worked.

 

[Bilal7]

You understand these are all just harmless discussion where people just express their opinions rather than ordering you to do certain things?

PSL is started only after success of many other T20 league this is not some new innovation so obviously have to take things what commercially worked.

You seem to really overrate the value of cheerleaders. Not a single T20 league has been successful because of cheerleading. The PSL doesn't need to follow suit.

 

[JibranAnsari]

I dont think it is necessary to have cheerleaders. Use that money to make the broadcast better.

 

[dandapinda]

You seem to really overrate the value of cheerleaders. Not a single T20 league has been successful because of cheerleading. The PSL doesn't need to follow suit.

You are seeing bottle half empty,be optimistic in life....

Cheers.

 

[Bilal7]

You are seeing bottle half empty,be optimistic in life....

Cheers.

No, I am being quite optimistic that the PSL can be a success without cheerleaders, you on the other hand do not seem to think so.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Pakistan is not alien country,don't your people dance to Bollywood music or don't watch Indian movies?

Live concert & stand up comedy during every match? Why do you need that..,,this is required only for opening ceremony.Cheer leaders used because that sits well with match situations (An American perfected product though)

Trading itself shows franchises are ready to do anything to get league commercially successful.

This is exactly why you don't get it since it is something that you are culturally not aware of. Cheer Leading might sit well with other audiences but trust me dude (I am a product of this country) people would be more willing to come to the stadiums if you arrange concerts and live comedy shows after each game than watching some Cheer Leading stuff.

You need to understand that Pakistan is made up of 4 distinct regions with KPK and Baluchistan being extremely unique in their way of life. The Bollywood thing that you mentioned would only be apparent in cities such as Karachi, Lahore, ISL and this does not even make up 30 percent of the total cricketing viewership in the nation. Also trends are changing now since how they are perceived in light to what Indians might have witnessed in early 2000s; yes there is Bollywood but its dying out as Pakistani Drams and the emergence of the Pakistan film industry over the last 5 years have been quite good revelations.

Just for you to get what I am talking about, go and watch Coke Studio Pakistan (Which is the most popular coke studio on Youtube) and see the sea of difference in the Music produced by our artists as compared to others. This is the exact same gulf of cultural difference Indians and Pakistanis have when it comes to social norms and day to day lifestyle.

 

[street cricketer]

You are taking the course of this discussion into a place where it might get ugly and I would recommend that you shouldn't paint good educated Pakistan's, who also follow Islam, as their belief with the same brush as TV Mullah pundits who patronize the religion to be extremist and radical.

I am a practicing Muslim (I pray 5 times daily) and refrain from all vices such as drinking, fooling around etc etc - depends on how YOU perceive drinking and fooling around but you get the idea. However, I listen to Music, smoke a little bit (only casually) with my friends; watch movies in cinemas and keep up with modern fashion trends and I HAVE ALSO WATCHED PRON during my teenage years. I believe killing of innocents are not allowed in Islam and also think TTP are BAD PEOPLE.

The above, as far as I know, is how a normal Pakistani person thinks and acts in society. The masses usually comprise of average people like me and since PSL is targeted towards them I fundamentally believe Cheer Leading will not sit good with them and will create a somewhat slight controversy than making it more entertaining.

Therefore I want no such thing, Cheer Leading in particular to be associated with the PSL brand.

I almost feel guilty reading your post

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

I almost feel guilty reading your post

Ab rulayee ga kia Paglay !!

 

[#GreenRoars]

You can do experiments with Tamasha cricket But personally i don't want to see cheerleaders.

 

[Bilal7]

It's not a bad profession just because you are ultra conservative,they also do it for passion and living.

Jack Kallis sister was a cheer leader in one of the IPL teams.

Well then, you should go talk to "Jack Kallis" about starting his own T20 league where you get two hours of non-stop dancing cheerleaders, with a little cricket being played during the Coca Cola strategic breaks. Maybe you can ask your sister to audition too.

As far as the PSL goes, it won't work because yes, most Pakistanis do not think like "Jack Kallis".

 

[dandapinda]

Well then, you should go talk to "Jack Kallis" about starting his own T20 league where you get two hours of non-stop dancing cheerleaders, with a little cricket being played during the Coca Cola strategic breaks. Maybe you can ask your sister to audition too.

As far as the PSL goes, it won't work because yes, most Pakistanis do not think like "Jack Kallis".

Don't worry,PSL will have cheer leaders.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

[MENTION=3224]ahmed[/MENTION]waqas Don't compare Pakistan music with Indian Music....Can't help if you compare your Coke studio with Bollywood....Indian music is 1000 times bigger than Pakistani one.

Of all the things I wrote you cherry picked one line which I might have been a tad wrong statistically based on numbers to defend what you're going on about Talk about being Defensive.

Anyways my post was not to insult of defame INDIAN MUSIC. My intentions were for you to see the cultural norms and the social difference between us. If you got that part then I guess you can somewhat comprehend why I believe Cheer Leading gimmicks should be a strict no no in PSL.

As far as Coke Studio is concerned I think we should apply YOUR polling strategy on Pakpassion between the quality of Music produced by Coke Studio Pakistan and India and lets see what the results say. I know the sample size is small but it would give a very nice representation since people voting would be of difference nationalities and would hold an unbais view. [MENTION=4542]MO[/MENTION]ds What do you say ??

 

[street cricketer]

Ab rulayee ga kia Paglay !!

Angrez bolo..

 

[dandapinda]

[MENTION=1556]Ahmad[/MENTION]waqas,your ignorance will not defame Indian music,nothing to be defensive there is no comparison of music between Coke studio & India

 

[Bilal7]

Don't worry,PSL will have cheer leaders.

I bet you'll watch every game, if that happens.

 

[dandapinda]

I bet you'll watch every game, if that happens.

If I get free time from personal & professional work I will try to watch few matches.Timing should be convenient right?

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

[MENTION=1556]Ahmad[/MENTION]waqas,your ignorance will not defame Indian music,nothing to be defensive there is no comparison of music between Coke studio & India

My Ignorance Do you even read what you write Uff Allah Reham Karay Tumharay Hal per is all I can say. Anyways please keep the bubble alive wherever you go and I hope me saying "Sorry If I offended you in any manner" seems any consolation.

P.S. I am not trying to defame Indian Music, heck I don't even listen to it at all. I am just saying that culturally I think what Indians like and what Pakistani's like are entirely apart and I can say that because you know....I am a Pakistani myself. Having said this, I believe that Cheer Leading would be a disaster and a very bad move that would be shed in the wrong light in Pakistani Media during PSL.

That's about it.

 

[dandapinda]

[MENTION=176]Waqas[/MENTION],you only say you don't listen Indian music and then start comparing.,.this is called ignorance...any way this is off topic...let's move on.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

[MENTION=176]Waqas[/MENTION],you only say you don't listen Indian music and then start comparing.,.this is called ignorance...any way this is off topic...let's move on.

My thoughts exactly.... Lets Move On

 

[Bilal7]

If I get free time from personal & professional work I will try to watch few matches.Timing should be convenient right?

Here I was thinking a few cheerleaders would make the casual fans come running to the PSL. Looks like they don't really make a difference, eh?

 

[last_knight]

The second half of OP has not been discussed.

We see with names of Lahore and Peshawar franchises that they gave it a local touch. Lahore particularly went on to chose a name they attribute to culture of Lahore.

Lahore, Peshawar, Karachi and Quetta, all of them have different traditional dressings. 4 Teenage boys in traditional dressings will also promote a beautiful aspect of provincial traditions. For Team Islamabad, They can have 4 boys, one each in different provincial dress, thus representation of all cultures.

 

[dandapinda]

Here I was thinking a few cheerleaders would make the casual fans come running to the PSL. Looks like they don't really make a difference, eh?

A casual fan watching few matches itself should be appreciated...man you guys want to develop a cult rather than an experience.


But you can't stop cheer leaders though.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

if youre gonna have cheerleaders atleast dont make them wear so many clothes like in the BPL it just looks weird although im not a fan of cheerleaders in cricket

 

[Bilal7]

The second half of OP has not been discussed.

We see with names of Lahore and Peshawar franchises that they gave it a local touch. Lahore particularly went on to chose a name they attribute to culture of Lahore.

Lahore, Peshawar, Karachi and Quetta, all of them have different traditional dressings. 4 Teenage boys in traditional dressings will also promote a beautiful aspect of provincial traditions. For Team Islamabad, They can have 4 boys, one each in different provincial dress, thus representation of all cultures.

And further the cultural divide in the country? No thanks.

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

We should not devalue females like IPL and other leagues have been doing by 'using them' in a way for marketing/publicity purposes.

 

[last_knight]

And further the cultural divide in the country? No thanks.

Dear, this is known as cultural harmony and it happens everywhere in the world.

There is something wrong in thought process if we view regional traditions as cultural divide. And we have to rectify this.

 

[Saeed]

Why fix something that isn't broke? I like the traditional atmosphere and it should be kept that way.

 

[Rafa]

We should not devalue females like IPL and other leagues have been doing by 'using them' in a way for marketing/publicity purposes.

Agree , it is a cheap concept hyped in the West. We can do without it as long as Cricket is of better quality.

 

[hafeezrocks]

Sorry we would be better off than the further objectification of Woman by making them dance half naked

 

[dayvancowboy]

I remember there being quite the uproar against the outfits of the IPL cheerleaders a few seasons back, after which the outfits became more conservative.

No need to tell us what to do, we have different values, morals and beliefs. What works for India will not work for Pakistan.

Says the guy living in Mississauga, Canada.

 

[dayvancowboy]

And further the cultural divide in the country? No thanks.

Sorry, not everyone wants Pakistan to be like Saudi Arabia.

 

[boomboomcheema]

Lets not copy that stupid padosi league in everything . PSL should be our own unique product.

 

[PetroDollars]

If people and mullahs object than it will be great for creating controversy and free publicity, a totally win situation for PCB.

I say get local girls and make it more controversial.