Will this World T20 become more about Usman Tariq as Pakistan progresses?

[Major]

Few months back, no one cared about Usman Tariq, but when he made his debut, alot of criticism came on his action.

Than when he became part of the squad, all the focus went on what to do if he plays against India. Should the batters pull out or what.

Everyone was talking about him to the point that even surya was copying his action and got his team to do special practice just for him.

Interestingly, after the India match, when Usman lived up the hype, the chucking allegations stopped

But, now even teams like Namibia have started to do special practice to face him.

As the tournament progresses, he becomes the talk of the town

 

[jnaveen1980]

Being talk of the town doesn't win matches. You actually have to win matches. If you decided not to get out to him you could do it. Most of the time teams lose wickets when they try to attack him. They might see him off until they get used to cues and go after others.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think Usman Tariq has become Pakistan's best bowler. Also, he has become the X factor.

I personally enjoy watching Usman bowl. I even shadow bowled like him. It is a fun action.

 

[Local.Dada]

Pakistani management have used him well, his utility is for this tournament to catch teams off guard with that action. If you take out the pause, his spin bowling skills are not that out of the world. Abrar is still a better allround spinner. In fact Saim has Jadeja level potential in tests as a bowler. There is no extra zip or revolutions here, so once the unique action gets found out, his decline will be extremely steep. I would say 2 more seasons of PSL/ other leagues max for him.

However that’s just my cricket prediction. I have heard this guy speak and he seems like a good bloke with calm head on his shoulders and seems to have a much better world view and decorum than most Pakistani cricketers. So personally, wish him nothing but the best

 

[sweep_shot]

Pakistani management have used him well, his utility is for this tournament to catch teams off guard with that action. If you take out the pause, his spin bowling skills are not that out of the world. Abrar is still a better allround spinner. In fact Saim has Jadeja level potential in tests as a bowler. There is no extra zip or revolutions here, so once the unique action gets found out, his decline will be extremely steep. I would say 2 more seasons of PSL/ other leagues max for him.

However that’s just my cricket prediction. I have heard this guy speak and he seems like a good bloke with calm head on his shoulders and seems to have a much better world view and decorum than most Pakistani cricketers. So personally, wish him nothing but the best

Usman is a better bowler than Abrar. Check his stats.

Against India, Usman had a figure of 4-0-24-1. Abrar had a figure of 3-0-38-0.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pakistani management have used him well, his utility is for this tournament to catch teams off guard with that action. If you take out the pause, his spin bowling skills are not that out of the world. Abrar is still a better allround spinner. In fact Saim has Jadeja level potential in tests as a bowler. There is no extra zip or revolutions here, so once the unique action gets found out, his decline will be extremely steep. I would say 2 more seasons of PSL/ other leagues max for him.

However that’s just my cricket prediction. I have heard this guy speak and he seems like a good bloke with calm head on his shoulders and seems to have a much better world view and decorum than most Pakistani cricketers. So personally, wish him nothing but the best

It also helps when you bowl on those SL wickets. If he bowls these things at Wankhede and Eden gardens he will be pummelled.

 

[cricket.mad]

His English seems very good.watched a press conference of him

 

[Major]

Pakistani management have used him well, his utility is for this tournament to catch teams off guard with that action. If you take out the pause, his spin bowling skills are not that out of the world. Abrar is still a better allround spinner. In fact Saim has Jadeja level potential in tests as a bowler. There is no extra zip or revolutions here, so once the unique action gets found out, his decline will be extremely steep. I would say 2 more seasons of PSL/ other leagues max for him.

However that’s just my cricket prediction. I have heard this guy speak and he seems like a good bloke with calm head on his shoulders and seems to have a much better world view and decorum than most Pakistani cricketers. So personally, wish him nothing but the best

Even he himself said that he wants to be remembered as someone who just came.

He knows his career wont be that long aswell

 

[sweep_shot]

It also helps when you bowl on those SL wickets. If he bowls these things at Wankhede and Eden gardens he will be pummelled.

He did well on flat pitches too. Check his stats.

Australia struggled against him on flat pitches.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Pakistani management have used him well, his utility is for this tournament to catch teams off guard with that action. If you take out the pause, his spin bowling skills are not that out of the world. Abrar is still a better allround spinner. In fact Saim has Jadeja level potential in tests as a bowler. There is no extra zip or revolutions here, so once the unique action gets found out, his decline will be extremely steep. I would say 2 more seasons of PSL/ other leagues max for him.

However that’s just my cricket prediction. I have heard this guy speak and he seems like a good bloke with calm head on his shoulders and seems to have a much better world view and decorum than most Pakistani cricketers. So personally, wish him nothing but the best

I think you are right, the real test for him will be when teams have judged his action and are just playing the ball. the only mystery is the pause.

 

[Major]

I wish the actor that played Dhoni was alive today.

Its abit sad that the actor took his life, but did not know tha impact his acting had on one guy who ended up representing Pakistan.

For context, for those of you who dont know, usman tariq said he returned to cricket because of the film dhoni, which he got inspired from.
Also, the actor that played Dhonis role, died from suicide

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

I think he will do well and Pakistan has found a decent bowler for T20Is.

One, dont underestimate him. he is not restricted to his action alone. He has a few variation in his arsenal.

That means that even if you adjust to his action, you still have to read him.

Not a one trick pony.

Two, he has control. So getting away from him will be a task.

Three, his height and reach give him an added advantage. He comes at you from various angles and heights. And he looks like a strong lad.

Even if they figure him out, his overall attributes will still present a challenge for batters in 20:20.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

To add to the above, a lot will depend on his mental fortitude and ability so adjust when batsmen inevitably go after him.

But a I’ll say this, he looks like a confident fella.

Of course I still want India to smash him when we play Pakistan.

But I like him, I think cricket needs bowlers who innovate within the rules. And he is legal until ICC tells me otherwise.

 

[jnaveen1980]

To add to the above, a lot will depend on his mental fortitude and ability so adjust when batsmen inevitably go after him.

But a I’ll say this, he looks like a confident fella.

Of course I still want India to smash him when we play Pakistan.

But I like him, I think cricket needs bowlers who innovate within the rules. And he is legal until ICC tells me otherwise.

Reverse sweep, scoop all those things will be planned, I think guys like Pandya who have zero trigger movement are more likely to hit him. The pause he has is for picking up cues of what batsman is going to do. If you don't give any cue he has to bowl a random ball.

 

[Major]

I think he will do well and Pakistan has found a decent bowler for T20Is.

One, dont underestimate him. he is not restricted to his action alone. He has a few variation in his arsenal.

That means that even if you adjust to his action, you still have to read him.

Not a one trick pony.

Two, he has control. So getting away from him will be a task.

Three, his height and reach give him an added advantage. He comes at you from various angles and heights. And he looks like a strong lad.

Even if they figure him out, his overall attributes will still present a challenge for batters in 20:20.

His control is the most dangerous thijg. Because when you sling the delivery like that, if you get control, you can become deadly.

 

[hur rizvi]

If Pakistan make it to super 8s, him and Abrar will be handy against NZ and Eng

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Reverse sweep, scoop all those things will be planned, I think guys like Pandya who have zero trigger movement are more likely to hit him. The pause he has is for picking up cues of what batsman is going to do. If you don't give any cue he has to bowl a random ball.

Of course they’ll plan. And sometimes they’ll succeed.

If the batsman doesn’t give a cue, that means he is waiting for after Usman delivers, which means he has to read him from the hand to be successful. These are interesting challenges.

I think on the shorter forms he will not be easy. I don’t think he’s a one trick pony and I don’t think he’s a one tournament wonder.

But we shall see.

His control is the most dangerous thijg. Because when you sling the delivery like that, if you get control, you can become deadly.

He has control, height, speed and some variation. If he is mentally strong enough to stick to his strengths, he will be fine.

 

[Kianig89]

For Tariq to.be relevant , Pak batters need to give him decent scores to defend

 

[Major]

If Pakistan make it to super 8s, him and Abrar will be handy against NZ and Eng

Our team management is thinking about dropping abrar...

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

If Pakistan are to find any sort of success in this tournament it will have alot to do with his performance. He is just a weird bowler that you don't see everyday, and I mean that in the best way. Will be a challenge for any team that hasn't played him before. It's not easy to line-up a bowler like that who not has the height advantage and the help he gets from the pause, but he also has 4-5 variations. In a format like T20 where he is only bowling 24 balls a bowler like that can be very dangerous if you try to take risks against him.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Few months back, no one cared about Usman Tariq, but when he made his debut, alot of criticism came on his action.

Than when he became part of the squad, all the focus went on what to do if he plays against India. Should the batters pull out or what.

Everyone was talking about him to the point that even surya was copying his action and got his team to do special practice just for him.

Interestingly, after the India match, when Usman lived up the hype, the chucking allegations stopped

But, now even teams like Namibia have started to do special practice to face him.

As the tournament progresses, he becomes the talk of the town

Usman did nothing against india

If he had helped Pakistan win against India, people would talk, right now almost no talk.

Surya was mocking tariqs antics if you understand what mocking means

 

[DRsohail]

Being talk of the town doesn't win matches. You actually have to win matches. If you decided not to get out to him you could do it. Most of the time teams lose wickets when they try to attack him. They might see him off until they get used to cues and go after others.

Not winning matches but can help winning matches, there is a reason he went for 6 and 5 or something against the best hitters in the world. He may be found out that’s a different story then.

 

[DRsohail]

Usman did nothing against india

If he had helped Pakistan win against India, people would talk, right now almost no talk.

Surya was mocking tariqs antics if you understand what mocking means

His figures were 1 for 24 that wven bowling 17th and 19th over? What else you want from a bowler?
I means I was not supporting this mediocre team but you are simply neglecting facts here. He did well.

 

[Cricfan8920]

His figures were 1 for 24 that wven bowling 17th and 19th over? What else you want from a bowler?
I means I was not supporting this mediocre team but you are simply neglecting facts here. He did well.

He did do quite well

 

[Major]

Usman did nothing against india

If he had helped Pakistan win against India, people would talk, right now almost no talk.

Surya was mocking tariqs antics if you understand what mocking means

If you consider a bowler who gave away only 9 runs while bowling the 17th and 19th over as nothing performance, than you shouldn't be discussing cricket. It seems like you yourself dont understand t20 cricket.

Also, the talk has shifted from criticism to praise on him, thats what the point of the thread is. And the talk started from India.

Surya was giving special practice to prepare his players.

 

[cricketjoshila]

His figures were 1 for 24 that wven bowling 17th and 19th over? What else you want from a bowler?
I means I was not supporting this mediocre team but you are simply neglecting facts here. He did well.

Part timer tilak verma had 1 for 11

Taif 1 for24 is doing well it understandable why Pakistan has become a mediocre team

 

[hur rizvi]

Our team management is thinking about dropping abrar...

That will hurt them if they do that

 

[Hikaru]

Gimmicks sell. It isn't just about Cricket now, social media needs it's memes too.

 

[Major]

Gimmicks sell. It isn't just about Cricket now, social media needs it's memes too.

so why are teams like India and Namibia doing special pracitice for one bowler if he is a gimmick?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Not winning matches but can help winning matches, there is a reason he went for 6 and 5 or something against the best hitters in the world. He may be found out that’s a different story then.

if and if when necessary batsmen will find a way. Story of the life for most spinners. If they could do it against Shane warne they will do it for him as well. On these tracks it is not just him everyone looked threatening.

 

[hur rizvi]

Part timer tilak verma had 1 for 11

Taif 1 for24 is doing well it understandable why Pakistan has become a mediocre team

lol tilak bowled when game was done. Do you even think before making an argument?

1/24 is decent for any team in T20 cricket

 

[Hikaru]

so why are teams like India and Namibia doing special pracitice for one bowler if he is a gimmick?

Professionalism, they also practice for regular bowlers. A very eye-catching bowling action has made it appear that Pakistani progress is all about that guy, which in my opinion is not the case.

 

[cricketjoshila]

lol tilak bowled when game was done. Do you even think before making an argument?

1/24 is decent for any team in T20 cricket

Decent may be but nothing exceptional to make Usman Tariq the talk of the town or the main focus

 

[charlie007]

Usman has done well. Period. You just can’t argue against performance. Against a team like India, going at 6 an over is gold dust. Of course, teams will begin to do better once they get used to his different delivery action but we can dissect that when that starts happening, but until then teams will watch him carefully so as not to give away wickets to him.
As far as practicing something teams consider as equivalent to his action in the nets, it’s standard practice. India in the past practiced with a guy standing on a stool giving throw downs to mimic Mohd. Irfan’s high angle or the throw down specialist feeding fast balls side arm to mimic Malinga’s action. Standard practice tools.
Although, @RedwoodOriginal , I’m not sure UT’s height is that big of an advantage given he himself negates it with his side arm action which lowers the height and angle from which the ball is being delivered. It’s his accuracy and finger / wrist changes right before his delivery that are a greater threat.
The guy seems to have a good head on his shoulders, speaks eloquently, doesn’t sound boastful, and is just trying to do his best for his country. There’s nothing in him to attract any kind of hate toward him. I wish him the best.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Usman has done well. Period. You just can’t argue against performance. Against a team like India, going at 6 an over is gold dust. Of course, teams will begin to do better once they get used to his different delivery action but we can dissect that when that starts happening, but until then teams will watch him carefully so as not to give away wickets to him.
As far as practicing something teams consider as equivalent to his action in the nets, it’s standard practice. India in the past practiced with a guy standing on a stool giving throw downs to mimic Mohd. Irfan’s high angle or the throw down specialist feeding fast balls side arm to mimic Malinga’s action. Standard practice tools.
Although, @RedwoodOriginal , I’m not sure UT’s height is that big of an advantage given he himself negates it with his side arm action which lowers the height and angle from which the ball is being delivered. It’s his accuracy and finger / wrist changes right before his delivery that are a greater threat.
The guy seems to have a good head on his shoulders, speaks eloquently, doesn’t sound boastful, and is just trying to do his best for his country. There’s nothing in him to attract any kind of hate toward him. I wish him the best.

These teams did better than that that too in Indian conditions.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Usman has done well. Period. You just can’t argue against performance. Against a team like India, going at 6 an over is gold dust. Of course, teams will begin to do better once they get used to his different delivery action but we can dissect that when that starts happening, but until then teams will watch him carefully so as not to give away wickets to him.
As far as practicing something teams consider as equivalent to his action in the nets, it’s standard practice. India in the past practiced with a guy standing on a stool giving throw downs to mimic Mohd. Irfan’s high angle or the throw down specialist feeding fast balls side arm to mimic Malinga’s action. Standard practice tools.
Although, @RedwoodOriginal , I’m not sure UT’s height is that big of an advantage given he himself negates it with his side arm action which lowers the height and angle from which the ball is being delivered. It’s his accuracy and finger / wrist changes right before his delivery that are a greater threat.
The guy seems to have a good head on his shoulders, speaks eloquently, doesn’t sound boastful, and is just trying to do his best for his country. There’s nothing in him to attract any kind of hate toward him. I wish him the best.

The side-arm delivery works precisely because it's something batsmen don't expect will come. Most of the time they are expecting he will deliver from a height. A side-arm delivery that keeps low kinda comes outta nowhere and I can see batsmen being unsettled by it. But it's not something I have seen him use alot. Seems like its there to be used every now and then. If he's bowling at the death then that's definitely something that will have some use. But yes, as you put it, his biggest strength are his finger and wrist changes.

 

[charlie007]

These teams did better than that that too in Indian conditions.

Which is absolutely amazing. The way we play these days, anything under 50 in the powerplay is great going. But UT bowled the 17th and 19th overs, and we were or should have been going for the leather at that time.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Which is absolutely amazing. The way we play these days, anything under 50 in the powerplay is great going. But UT bowled the 17th and 19th overs, and we were or should have been going for the leather at that time.

This is the advantage in T20. If it is One day you get some time to pick up the cues and go after it. Actually SKY did pick his off spin. Just that because pitch was turning square it caught his toe end . Actually Saim looked more threatening against lefties.

 

[AAli98]

Such a level headed guy speaks well earned his place in the team not a parchii like Agha. Future captain.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023704946554859670

 

[Local.Dada]

Hope usman has given enough net practice for Pak batsmen against Scott Edwards

 

[DRsohail]

if and if when necessary batsmen will find a way. Story of the life for most spinners. If they could do it against Shane warne they will do it for him as well. On these tracks it is not just him everyone looked threatening.

so Shane warned was not successful .

 

[DRsohail]

Part timer tilak verma had 1 for 11

Taif 1 for24 is doing well it understandable why Pakistan has become a mediocre team

Looks like you only follow the scorecard. He had a god game. Now you don’t accept that is your problem.

 

[DRsohail]

If you consider a bowler who gave away only 9 runs while bowling the 17th and 19th over as nothing performance, than you shouldn't be discussing cricket. It seems like you yourself dont understand t20 cricket.

Also, the talk has shifted from criticism to praise on him, thats what the point of the thread is. And the talk started from India.

Surya was giving special practice to prepare his players.

Agreed, these guys will write long essays but will come up with rubbish next day.

 

[NishanKonar]

Right now Usman has a novelty factor. Batters are trying to figure out how to deal with him

His true test will be once the novelty factor is gone & batters adjusted their trigger movements accordingly.

Its like Sohail Tanvir. His unique wtong footed action caught many batters by surprise in the 2007 World T20. But once batters figured out his action - he became less impactful as he did not have the swing or control

 

[NishanKonar]

My sense - batters with zero trigger movement & fast hands can easily deal with him. Basically the stand & deliver kind of guys who dont need much footwork

Like Hardik , Shivam Dube , Ishan Kishan

But guys like Kohli., SKY , Rohit will find it a bit difficult

 

[shah9425]

His biggest test will be against NZ and England in super 8

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Our team management is thinking about dropping abrar...

You were right about today, they dropped Abrar and continued Shadab, Nawaz and Babar

 

[cricketjoshila]

If you consider a bowler who gave away only 9 runs while bowling the 17th and 19th over as nothing performance, than you shouldn't be discussing cricket. It seems like you yourself dont understand t20 cricket.

Also, the talk has shifted from criticism to praise on him, thats what the point of the thread is. And the talk started from India.

Surya was giving special practice to prepare his players.

Someone who thinks over17 and 19th are some kind of of slog overs in t20 is confus t20 with odi, t20 means sustained hittting not hittingin last few overs,

Tariq didn’t have anything great, now you can keep adding extra toppings to make a nothing great performance look good, like you guys did for babar, but that didn’t change babars actual performance

 

[Major]

Someone who thinks over17 and 19th are some kind of of slog overs in t20 is confus t20 with odi, t20 means sustained hittting not hittingin last few overs,

Tariq didn’t have anything great, now you can keep adding extra toppings to make a nothing great performance look good, like you guys did for babar, but that didn’t change babars actual performance

So 8 runs being score off of him is good batting by india in the last 3 overs?

Lol, @Rana @Bhaag Viru Bhaag @The Bald Eagle

 

[The Bald Eagle]

So 8 runs being score off of him is good batting by india in the last 3 overs?

Lol, @Rana @Bhaag Viru Bhaag @The Bald Eagle

Lol..Yeah for CJ there is nothing as death overs bowling

 

[Rana]

So 8 runs being score off of him is good batting by india in the last 3 overs?

Lol, @Rana @Bhaag Viru Bhaag @The Bald Eagle

According to him, overs 17th and 19th are not slog overs in T20

Aisi Chawwal ki umeed tou mujhe Rizwan se bhi nahi

 

[jnaveen1980]

so Shane warned was not successful .

India did find a way. He wasn't successful in India

 

[Major]

According to him, overs 17th and 19th are not slog overs in T20

Aisi Chawwal ki umeed tou mujhe Rizwan se bhi nahi

19th over is anchor over, cause this is t20 not odi, as @cricketjoshila said.

I am sitting here for the last 5 mins, questioning myself that we dont slog in t20 but we do so in odi

 

[Major]

Lol..Yeah for CJ there is nothing as death overs bowling

Anchoring in the 19th over just to score in the 20th

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Anchoring in the 19th over just to score in the 20th

Lol we should apologize RizBabar then as per legendary cricket commentator, Mr CJ

 

[Rana]

Lol we should apologize RizBabar then as per legendary cricket commentator, Mr CJ

We have heard of Devdas Lewis Method

Now we have the JoshilaBall

19th over is not a slog over in T20

 

[Major]

We have heard of Devdas Lewis Method

Now we have the JoshilaBall

19th over is not a slog over in T20

Joshillaball abey yaarrr hahahahahaa

 

[shah9425]

Hopefully he will be used correctly

So he can make good impact

 

[bk19xsa]

He's to spin bowling what Bumrah is to fast bowling. Hard to hit, with a short, almost standing runup, and disguised variations where his arm angle is additionally varied by height.

Yeah, its going to take time for batsmen to read this guy.

Because of the proliferation of T20, you will see bowlers giving more priority to the ball being shown to the batsman at the last millisecond before it's thrown, with varied angles of release and as near to the batsman as possible at the time of throwing. That's all that is required to confuse the living daylights out of the batsmen.

The skill is the trickery.

 

[DRsohail]

India did find a way. He wasn't successful in India

That’s what I said, good players find a way, he should find a way then but till that happens , we can’t say he is a failure. Currently he is doing well . Let’s see how he does in future.

 

[DRsohail]

19th over is anchor over, cause this is t20 not odi, as @cricketjoshila said.

I am sitting here for the last 5 mins, questioning myself that we dont slog in t20 but we do so in odi

Time not to take him seriously anymore. I used to rate him on this forum but he speaks fazul in hate of Pakistan and Pakistani.
I thought he was better than this.

 

[jnaveen1980]

That’s what I said, good players find a way, he should find a way then but till that happens , we can’t say he is a failure. Currently he is doing well . Let’s see how he does in future.

Yes. He will do well in this tournament as many teams have not seen him before like they have seen Varun C although Varun C has better average/ER/SR than Tariq in this world cup.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I find it really interesting that watching Dhoni's biopic inspired him to return to cricket and leave a stable job in Dubai. Just goes to show the power of film.

 

[khyberlion]

He needs to improve his batting and fielding. Looks like those uncles playing on Sundays.

 

[msb314]

Someone who thinks over17 and 19th are some kind of of slog overs in t20 is confus t20 with odi, t20 means sustained hittting not hittingin last few overs,

Tariq didn’t have anything great, now you can keep adding extra toppings to make a nothing great performance look good, like you guys did for babar, but that didn’t change babars actual performance

He went for run a ball and got Surya out. Was the pick of our bowlers which is a compliment given it was his first big game

 

[msb314]

I wish Usman the best and actually exceeded my expectations so far to be honest…

Hope he remains a good bowler and achieves consistency like Varun, Axar etc. especially once the novelty factor wears off

 

[shah9425]

Hopefully he continues to deliver in super 8

 

[Justcrazy]

His temperament will be tested in big games , in knockout games.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Batsman will work him out at some stage but that’s expected for everyone who’s not named Shane Warne or Murali. Other bowlers are expected to keep learning and growing.

Medium to long term, PCB must support him during the inevitable injury/ rehab or after he gets hit for a few. This guy looks worth it.

 

[DRsohail]

V

Yes. He will do well in this tournament as many teams have not seen him before like they have seen Varun C although Varun C has better average/ER/SR than Tariq in this world cup.

Varun is better player , he is an improved cricketer and will continue to do better Z

 

[cricketjoshila]

He went for run a ball and got Surya out. Was the pick of our bowlers which is a compliment given it was his first big game

Pick of your bowlers was saim ayub then salman agha

 

[cricketjoshila]

Varun needs a stronger stock delivery to be successful

 

[jnaveen1980]

Varun needs a stronger stock delivery to be successful

He has about 8 variations.