Won’t agree to Asia Cup cancellation to accommodate IPL: PCB Chairman Ehsan Mani

[Abdullah719]

Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Ehsan Mani has asserted that the PCB will not agree to cancelling the Asia Cup, scheduled in the UAE in September, to make room for the Indian Premier League, which has been postponed due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The IPL was to be held from March 29 to May 24 but has been postponed indefinitely because of a extended lockdown to combat the deadly virus in India. “I have read and heard about these speculations but right now just remember that having or not having the Asia Cup is not a decision between Pakistan and India it involves other countries as well,” asserted Mani on Tuesday.

Pakistan were to host the event but it was shifted to Dubai and Abu Dhabi after India expressed reluctance to come here owing to security concerns and the strained diplomatic ties between the two countries. “...it is important to have the Asia Cup if cricket activities resume by then because development of Asian cricket depends on funding from the tournament. It is important for many countries who are members of the Asian Cricket Council,” he added in a podcast released by the PCB.

However, he also conceded that holding the Asia Cup this year is a big challenge because right now “we don’t know if it can be held or not.”

“But if the conditions change and we can have the Asia Cup, it must be held as earnings from it are distributed as development funds to member countries for next two years,” he said.

He said reports about the Asia Cup being hosted by Bangladesh or UAE were mere speculation at this stage. Speaking about another big event, Mani warned that if the T20 World Cup, to be held in Australia in October-November, is postponed, the financial fallout will be big for many countries.

“The financial impact will be felt by many countries if the ICC can’t distribute their shares from the tournament. Many countries including Pakistan will feel the pinch,” he admitted. Mani confirmed that Pakistan was to receive around USD 7 to 8 million in June and January.

“Pakistan is fortunate it has good financial controls in place and in short term, it will be better off than most countries if the lockdowns continue because of the coronavirus pandemic,” he claimed. “We are to get 7 to 8 Million dollars from the ICC in June but we know they might not come so we have planned accordingly,” he added.

On whether Pakistan’s forthcoming tours to Holland, Ireland and England between late June and August will go ahead, Mani said the PCB was prepared for disruptions. But he ruled out resumption of international cricket in empty stadiums.

“Empty stadiums also offer their big challenges as teams have to travel by air and stay in hotels so the risks start there. The logistical arrangements have to be manageable,” he explained. Mani said Pakistan was prepared to show goodwill and flexibility and support the hosts of these tours. “We wouldn’t mind if two series are held at the same time like one team playing Tests and another white-ball cricket. In these difficult times we need to support each other,” he said.

Mani also revealed that Pakistan had shown interest in hosting several ICC tournaments to be held between 2023 and 2031, including the ICC Youth Cup and World Cups. “Unfortunately the last time the cycle of ICC events were bid for the big three, India, Australia and England distributed all the main events among themselves. This time I can say there are more countries interested in hosting the events,” he said.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...-ehsan-mani/story-UVna29TjlS0Ygyo9ECr2FO.html

 

[King-Misbah]

Who cares? There won't be any cricket for a long time anyway.

 

[cricketjoshila]

His disagreement wont really stop anything. If India withdraws from Asia cup, thats that.

Let ACC find sponsors for a series without India and with the schedule clashing with IPL.

Also other boards will have a say, pcb or Ehsan Mani isnt the decision maker.

 

[DRsohail]

His disagreement wont really stop anything. If India withdraws from Asia cup, thats that.

Let ACC find sponsors for a series without India and with the schedule clashing with IPL.

Also other boards will have a say, pcb or Ehsan Mani isnt the decision maker.

He is entitled to say what he wants and has been to good in keeping our self respect which we were losing on daily basis due to SethiAnyways none of the two is gonna happen soon .not in 2020 mark my words.

 

[Rana]

His disagreement wont really stop anything. If India withdraws from Asia cup, thats that.

Let ACC find sponsors for a series without India and with the schedule clashing with IPL.

Also other boards will have a say, pcb or Ehsan Mani isnt the decision maker.

And let’s see when Pak really has had enough and withdraws from icc events held in India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

And let’s see when Pak really has had enough and withdraws from icc events held in India.

Pcb will stop getting icc money. And get sued.

Its hard to imagine ICC leaving India out for Pakistan.

 

[Rana]

Pcb will stop getting icc money. And get sued.

Its hard to imagine ICC leaving India out for Pakistan.

Lol let’s see ICC get a penny out of PCB when that happens. Any country is not compelled to tour another, especially one that it is at war against

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol let’s see ICC get a penny out of PCB when that happens. Any country is not compelled to tour another, especially one that it is at war against

PCB doesn't pay money to ICC. And Pakistan market is very small compared to Indias so pretty obvious which country will be preferred when we talk about revenue.

 

[Rana]

PCB doesn't pay money to ICC. And Pakistan market is very small compared to Indias so pretty obvious which country will be preferred when we talk about revenue.

Do we care? Good luck with your IPL style World Cup lol

 

[IMMY69]

PCB doesn't pay money to ICC. And Pakistan market is very small compared to Indias so pretty obvious which country will be preferred when we talk about revenue.

You know I’m amazed by your posts each and every time...
They are excruciatingly biased and wreak of insecurity.

How do you manage to live with yourself?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Do we care? Good luck with your IPL style World Cup lol

Nor do we care. Let the door not hit you on the way out.

 

[IMMY69]

Nor do we care. Let the door not hit you on the way out.

Saying this on this forum makes you a really strong person...

Shining india

 

[cricketjoshila]

You know I’m amazed by your posts each and every time...
They are excruciatingly biased and wreak of insecurity.

How do you manage to live with yourself?

Truth is the truth. Tell me what is untrue in what i posted?

 

[Rana]

Truth is the truth. Tell me what is untrue in what i posted?

Lol the whole damn lot is untrue because not once has ICC appeased India in favour of Pakistan

*cough cough 2019 World Cup*

 

[Zaz]

Good, its about time the pcb chairman decides not to pander to the indians

 

[Hitman]

I don't see any cricket in any level being played this year.

 

[Mesozoic]

Like I said in the other thread, PCB should go on with the Asia cup at home without India. SL and Ban have already toured so they'll just need Afg to agree. Nepal/UAE will surely visit.

And on the other hand, BCCI should organise the IPL (a shorter version). Asian(non-Indian) representation at the IPL is bare minimum anyways So won't be much of a loss. Besides it's better off to play the IPL and take a look at the form of likely and the fringe players before the wt20 than to play a far less competitive tournament like the Asia cup. That too on the UAE or Ban wickets which are nothing like the Australian ones.

 

[Oneking]

Nice ! Finally PCB has a backbone they are no longer trying to please BCI

 

[the Great Khan]

The IPL wont be happening this year. Non asian players will not tour as there is now way many of their families will agree to them going to India which may still have many many cases of corona. I cant see english and australian players going. The boards will be more interested in getting their own domestic seasons up and running and playing some cricket. September may be a good month to start but we have no idea what the status of the virus spread will be by then.

The IPL if it cant be held in its window (which is discriminatory anyway) should simply be done away with this year.

The PCB should hold the asia cup in pakistan with sri lanka and bangladesh and others coming over. it would be a big hit in the country. India can worry about the gazillion cases of covid they are going to have to deal with in the next months.

 

[Mesozoic]

The PCB should hold the asia cup in pakistan with sri lanka and bangladesh and others coming over. it would be a big hit in the country. India can worry about the gazillion cases of covid they are going to have to deal with in the next months.

Keep up the good work khan sahab.

Great thinking !

 

[the Great Khan]

Keep up the good work khan sahab.

Great thinking !

always here to plz

 

[cricketjoshila]

Keep up the good work khan sahab.

Great thinking !

There is a saying in eastern india, The vultures curse but the elephant doesnt die.

 

[Pakhs]

It does not matter - IPL brings the money so BCCI would definitely go for that instead which anybody in similar position would do. Lets face it nobody refuses money.

 

[Mesozoic]

It does not matter - IPL brings the money so BCCI would definitely go for that instead which anybody in similar position would do. Lets face it nobody refuses money.

It's not just about the money though. With the wt20 looming, BCCI would (rightfully) rather go with the IPL to test the player pool in a much more intense environment like the IPL than play the Asia cup against not-so-good opponents on Ban/UAE wickets.

 

[TeymurBlake]

Maybe replace India in the Asia Cup with another team such as West Indies or South Africa during the IPL. Asia Cup has run its course and I believe it would be best to maybe get rid of it or broaden it to maybe just have small Asian cricket teams and the winner of two finalist get qualification to a tournament.

 

[Pakhs]

It's not just about the money though. With the wt20 looming, BCCI would (rightfully) rather go with the IPL to test the player pool in a much more intense environment like the IPL than play the Asia cup against not-so-good opponents on Ban/UAE wickets.

I dont think IPL is actually same level as international cricket I think that's proven by many facts. Lots of international rejects play in IPL. And likes of Watson who lost his place in Australian team was still a big hit in IPL and players like Mccullum kept on playing past their sell by date.

International matches are best practice for many reasons because for starters you can get your tactics spot on as you only have players you will play with in international cricket. So in short IPL is all about money it has always been - BCCI would definitely pick IPL over Asia Cup and so they should. The rest of the teams can play the Asia Cup if they want to.

The only issue for me is - I hope it does not set the precedent of domestic tournaments taking priority over International game. Because some fans like me are too old to car about domestic Tournaments regardless to how glamorous or entertaining they might be. Couldn't care less who wins.

 

[Banton10]

Asia cup is boring.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Very brave.

This is not the PCB of the old.

They are smart, patriotic and fearless.

 

[Mesozoic]

I dont think IPL is actually same level as international cricket I think that's proven by many facts. Lots of international rejects play in IPL. And likes of Watson who lost his place in Australian team was still a big hit in IPL and players like Mccullum kept on playing past their sell by date.

If that "International cricket" is something like the Asia cup , then yes... I can surely say that the IPL is comfortably a level above in terms of intensity and competitiveness. You can't just use Watson and McCullum as past it players playing and come to a conclusion. For every Watson, you'll have dozens of top tier T20 players in the world playing in the IPL. And honestly , a past sell by date Watson or McCullum are still bigger draws to play against than most of the players that'll likely play in the Asia cup. So, there you go....

 

[cricketjoshila]

Already one asian test playing nation has offered to host the IPL.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

If that "International cricket" is something like the Asia cup , then yes... I can surely say that the IPL is comfortably a level above in terms of intensity and competitiveness. You can't just use Watson and McCullum as past it players playing and come to a conclusion. For every Watson, you'll have dozens of top tier T20 players in the world playing in the IPL. And honestly , a past sell by date Watson or McCullum are still bigger draws to play against than most of the players that'll likely play in the Asia cup. So, there you go....

Lol at the intensity and competitiveness.

 

[Pakhs]

If that "International cricket" is something like the Asia cup , then yes... I can surely say that the IPL is comfortably a level above in terms of intensity and competitiveness. You can't just use Watson and McCullum as past it players playing and come to a conclusion. For every Watson, you'll have dozens of top tier T20 players in the world playing in the IPL. And honestly , a past sell by date Watson or McCullum are still bigger draws to play against than most of the players that'll likely play in the Asia cup. So, there you go....

Its clear you dont know anything about the skill levels involved in international class players and domestic the fact that a lot of domestic level players play in IPL who will never make any top 11 side (or many who have been dropped due to poor form etc still play IPL) clearly means its not par with any international level cricket.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Let’s wait and see. I don’t know why people are getting so worked up about something that, going by their own logic, is so inconsequential.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Its clear you dont know anything about the skill levels involved in international class players and domestic the fact that a lot of domestic level players play in IPL who will never make any top 11 side (or many who have been dropped due to poor form etc still play IPL) clearly means its not par with any international level cricket.

Don't talk about skill levels and performances with them. These IPL fans only understand one thing and that is money. They will even rate Jaydev Unadkat above Trent Boult because he earns more money.

There is a reason we haven't won any big ICC tournaments for so many years now. Most of these so called big players like Pandya fail when it is required to show their competitiveness and intensity.

 

[aloo paratha]

Asia Cup in Pakistan can still be successful without India, if PCB organize it correctly, especially since this edition will be T20s.

5 teams, Pak, Afg, SL, BD, UAE(or whoever qualifies), one group. 4 venues, Lahore, Karachi, Pindi, Multan. If they allocate the games properly, attendance should still be pretty good.

Pak vs SL - Lahore
Pak vs BD - Karachi
Pak vs Afg - Multan
Pak vs UAE - Pindi
SL vs BD - Multan
SL vs Afg - Lahore
SL vs UAE - Pindi
BD vs Afg - Pindi
BD vs UAE - Pindi
Afg vs UAE - Multan
Final - Karachi

Pakistan games as well as the final will be sellouts. Most neutral games have been allocated to Pindi and Multan, both of which have not had any international T20s yet, so they should still get 50-75% attendance.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Asia Cup in Pakistan can still be successful without India, if PCB organize it correctly, especially since this edition will be T20s.

5 teams, Pak, Afg, SL, BD, UAE(or whoever qualifies), one group. 4 venues, Lahore, Karachi, Pindi, Multan. If they allocate the games properly, attendance should still be pretty good.

Pak vs SL - Lahore
Pak vs BD - Karachi
Pak vs Afg - Multan
Pak vs UAE - Pindi
SL vs BD - Multan
SL vs Afg - Lahore
SL vs UAE - Pindi
BD vs Afg - Pindi
BD vs UAE - Pindi
Afg vs UAE - Multan
Final - Karachi

Pakistan games as well as the final will be sellouts. Most neutral games have been allocated to Pindi and Multan, both of which have not had any international T20s yet, so they should still get 50-75% attendance.

SL is more interested in hosting the IPL. They have made a formal offer.

 

[Rana]

SL is more interested in hosting the IPL. They have made a formal offer.

Joshila getting gassed

There is no IPL this year.

 

[aloo paratha]

Alternatively, the ACC will probably ditch a 5th team, and go for a 4 team tournament, in which each team plays the other twice, then a final, which would generate more money.

 

[aloo paratha]

SL is more interested in hosting the IPL. They have made a formal offer.

So? They can host IPL and still have their national team play the Asia Cup.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

SL is more interested in hosting the IPL. They have made a formal offer.

Why won't they? They also have kids who want to see circus.

 

[trickyone]

So? They can host IPL and still have their national team play the Asia Cup.

Hahahahah

 

[aloo paratha]

Hahahahah

What's so funny? Isn't Malinga the only Sri Lankan who got an IPL contract anyways?

 

[Rana]

What's so funny? Isn't Malinga the only Sri Lankan who got an IPL contract anyways?

Anyone can offer to host it. I’m sure it needs to government clearance. Why would anyone want to allow 200 odd Indian athletes into their country who could all be active Covid cases?

 

[Mesozoic]

Its clear you dont know anything about the skill levels involved in international class players and domestic the fact that a lot of domestic level players play in IPL who will never make any top 11 side (or many who have been dropped due to poor form etc still play IPL) clearly means its not par with any international level cricket.

Let me just ask you this...

If India's Asia cup opponents (Pak, SL, Ban, Afg) and the top 4 IPL teams (say MI, CSK, KKR and SRH) play an IPL style T20 tournament , who is more likely to win the whole thing ? You have to remove your tinted glasses though in order to get my point..

My whole point is that may be barring Pak, all the other Asian teams will get beaten more often than not by even the bottom 4 IPL teams. You are only deluding yourselves if you think that Pak, Ban etc are better T20 teams than MI, SRH or KKR. The "domestic level players" you talk of would most likely walk into most of the Asian T20 lineups and I'm not even exaggerating.

 

[Mesozoic]

Lol at the intensity and competitiveness.

Oh you hate the IPL too ?

Why am I not surprised ?

 

[sweep_shot]

I am not sure if Asia Cup and IPL will happen this year. Even World T20 is in jeopardy.

 

[Rajdeep]

Quality of cricket is definitely much higher in IPL compared to the Asia Cup. The notion that just bcoz its international cricket it is superior automatically is incorrect. I absolutely love Asia cup because it guarantees an Indo-Pak game. But if anyone thinks a tournament comprises of players from HK, Afg, SL, BD will provide a better quality compared to IPL which has best t20 cricketers around the world is deluded. Forget IPL, even Syed Musthtaq Ali trophy which is India's domestic t20 competition is superior than Asia cup quality wise. Apart from Pakistan, I would back most teams from SM Trophy like Karnataka, Mumbai, Tamil Nadu etc. to beat other Asia cup teams anyday lol.

 

[Rayyman]

Asia Cup in Pakistan can still be successful without India, if PCB organize it correctly, especially since this edition will be T20s.

5 teams, Pak, Afg, SL, BD, UAE(or whoever qualifies), one group. 4 venues, Lahore, Karachi, Pindi, Multan. If they allocate the games properly, attendance should still be pretty good.

Pak vs SL - Lahore
Pak vs BD - Karachi
Pak vs Afg - Multan
Pak vs UAE - Pindi
SL vs BD - Multan
SL vs Afg - Lahore
SL vs UAE - Pindi
BD vs Afg - Pindi
BD vs UAE - Pindi
Afg vs UAE - Multan
Final - Karachi

Pakistan games as well as the final will be sellouts. Most neutral games have been allocated to Pindi and Multan, both of which have not had any international T20s yet, so they should still get 50-75% attendance.

Alternatively, the ACC will probably ditch a 5th team, and go for a 4 team tournament, in which each team plays the other twice, then a final, which would generate more money.

Great idea bro, but Pakistan is short on money due to corona. Security will cost a lot idk if it will be possible tbh.

 

[aloo paratha]

Quality of cricket is definitely much higher in IPL compared to the Asia Cup. The notion that just bcoz its international cricket it is superior automatically is incorrect. I absolutely love Asia cup because it guarantees an Indo-Pak game. But if anyone thinks a tournament comprises of players from HK, Afg, SL, BD will provide a better quality compared to IPL which has best t20 cricketers around the world is deluded. Forget IPL, even Syed Musthtaq Ali trophy which is India's domestic t20 competition is superior than Asia cup quality wise. Apart from Pakistan, I would back most teams from SM Trophy like Karnataka, Mumbai, Tamil Nadu etc. to beat other Asia cup teams anyday lol.

Lets not get ahead of ourselves. Afghanistan tied with India in the Asia Cup last time around, and lost to India by only 11 runs in the World Cup. Bangladesh won a T20I against India in November. They're still good enough to beat IPL teams and Indian domestic teams. Even Hong Kong only lost by 25 runs against India last Asia Cup

 

[cricketjoshila]

Joshila getting gassed

There is no IPL this year.

Thats what you wish for.

When cricket restarts this year, IPL will be one of the first tournaments.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So? They can host IPL and still have their national team play the Asia Cup.

More likely they host ipl and more lankans get to play ipl.

 

[Pakhs]

Don't talk about skill levels and performances with them. These IPL fans only understand one thing and that is money. They will even rate Jaydev Unadkat above Trent Boult because he earns more money.

There is a reason we haven't won any big ICC tournaments for so many years now. Most of these so called big players like Pandya fail when it is required to show their competitiveness and intensity.

Yes you have a point regarding money

 

[Pakhs]

Let me just ask you this...

If India's Asia cup opponents (Pak, SL, Ban, Afg) and the top 4 IPL teams (say MI, CSK, KKR and SRH) play an IPL style T20 tournament , who is more likely to win the whole thing ? You have to remove your tinted glasses though in order to get my point..

My whole point is that may be barring Pak, all the other Asian teams will get beaten more often than not by even the bottom 4 IPL teams. You are only deluding yourselves if you think that Pak, Ban etc are better T20 teams than MI, SRH or KKR. The "domestic level players" you talk of would most likely walk into most of the Asian T20 lineups and I'm not even exaggerating.

Yes I think all these teams can be beaten by most international sides - maybe not Bangladesh and Srilanka at this moment as they are not having a good time with T20s at the moment.

The teams you have mentioned dont have some alien players most of their players are made up from Indians 4 international and atleast 3-4 who wont even make Indian international 11. So there is no rocket science here these teams with restrictions of only 4 overseas players can never be as good as top 6 international sides. Yes its a T20 games so if there ever was such a game they will not every time neither will Bangladesh lose every time.

 

[Kaptan]

I dont think IPL is actually same level as international cricket I think that's proven by many facts. Lots of international rejects play in IPL. And likes of Watson who lost his place in Australian team was still a big hit in IPL and players like Mccullum kept on playing past their sell by date.

Flawed logic. Lots of IPL rejects also play international cricket. Whole of Pakistan, 99% of Bangladesh , 90% of Srilanka and Afganistan are IPL rejects.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Our international team hasn't won any T20 World Cup after IPL came into existence and some delusional fans think Mumbai Maachis and Chennai Chatakas can beat teams like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh? Haha these IPL fans lol.

 

[Kaptan]

Our international team hasn't won any T20 World Cup after IPL came into existence and some delusional fans think Mumbai Maachis and Chennai Chatakas can beat teams like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh? Haha these IPL fans lol.

How many T20 world cups have Pakistan, Srilanka, Afghanistan and Bangladesh won ?
What makes you think MI or CSK can't beat them ?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Flawed logic. Lots of IPL rejects also play international cricket. Whole of Pakistan, 99% of Bangladesh , 90% of Srilanka and Afganistan are IPL rejects.

Kaptaan sahab get off your high horse. India won the T20 World Cup when there was no IPL.

100% IPL rejects from Pakistan managed to win a T20 World Cup.

90% of IPL rejects from Sri Lanka also managed to win a T20 World Cup by beating India.

Forget about Sri Lanka and Pakistan, if you think those pyjama teams can even beat Bangladesh or Afghanistan then you are delusional lol.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

How many T20 world cups have Pakistan, Srilanka, Afghanistan and Bangladesh won ?
What makes you think MI or CSK can't beat them ?

Answer is given in the post above. You should not forget that those teams don't have the so called competitive league. They are doing fine without it.

 

[sweep_shot]

You may argue that quality-wise IPL is better than Asia Cup.

But, international cricket should always get priority over any league.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You may argue that quality-wise IPL is better than Asia Cup.

But, international cricket should always get priority over any league.

Apart from some delusional fans everyone knows and understands this. This is not football.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You may argue that quality-wise IPL is better than Asia Cup.

But, international cricket should always get priority over any league.

Depends upon quality of cricket.

 

[andy0204]

Apart from some delusional fans everyone knows and understands this. This is not football.

Sorry to say but sports has become a business where money matters.

 

[sshakir411]

Pretty obvious India is starving for IPL....wonder how big the hole will be if it doesn't happen this year?

 

[Savak]

You may argue that quality-wise IPL is better than Asia Cup.

But, international cricket should always get priority over any league.

Indeed, over any domestic league no matter how high quality it is.

 

[Mesozoic]

Yes I think all these teams can be beaten by most international sides - maybe not Bangladesh and Srilanka at this moment as they are not having a good time with T20s at the moment.

The teams you have mentioned dont have some alien players most of their players are made up from Indians 4 international and atleast 3-4 who wont even make Indian international 11. So there is no rocket science here these teams with restrictions of only 4 overseas players can never be as good as top 6 international sides. Yes its a T20 games so if there ever was such a game they will not every time neither will Bangladesh lose every time.

I was talking about the Asian teams as we're discussing about the Asia cup. Of course , I don't think any IPL team would start as favourites against the likes of Aus, Eng , WI or NZ. Outside of these teams, it's a different story.

It's not just the 4 overseas players we're talking about. Every team has 4-5 Indian internationals who are no slouches either. For example MI has Rohit, Bumrah, Pandya brothers, Chahar who are all int'l class and have actually played for India. Pretty much the same for all teams. You are clearly deluding yourselves if you think any other Asian team can beat a lineup of QDK, Rohit, Pollard, Cutting, Pandyas, Bumrah, McClenaghan etc....

 

[Mesozoic]

Kaptaan sahab get off your high horse. India won the T20 World Cup when there was no IPL.

100% IPL rejects from Pakistan managed to win a T20 World Cup.

90% of IPL rejects from Sri Lanka also managed to win a T20 World Cup by beating India.

Forget about Sri Lanka and Pakistan, if you think those pyjama teams can even beat Bangladesh or Afghanistan then you are delusional lol.

What a stupid argument lol. Not really surprised it came from you. So I guess Premier League is not the best football league in the world coz England didn't win the world cup or even the European championship.

Forget about SL and Ban , your beloved Pakistan and Sri Lanka will end up getting battered by most of the IPL teams. It may get in the way of your sucking up and self hating , but that's the truth.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

I don't want the ipl to happen this year only to see Ms dhoni kicked out of the world cup team.
Indian fans can sacrifice an ipl to get rid of the useless trash that is ms dhoni.
No ipl means no way for dhoni to get into indian team.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

What a stupid argument lol. Not really surprised it came from you. So I guess Premier League is not the best football league in the world coz England didn't win the world cup or even the European championship.

Forget about SL and Ban , your beloved Pakistan and Sri Lanka will end up getting battered by most of the IPL teams. It may get in the way of your sucking up and self hating , but that's the truth.

I am not surprised you are one of those who got hurt by my post and once again posting nonsense just for the sake of it.

Where did I say Premier League is not the best football league in the world? As always stop putting words in my mouth.

Apart from cricket you obviously don't understand football too. Football leagues are played throughout the year. They are not organised like a circus from one country to another country just for 2 months. I found it funny when the whole circus was shifted to South Africa then UAE and now Sri Lanka too wants to entertain their kids lol.

Someone who is on a BJP and BCCI payroll shouldn't blame others of sucking up. Keep dancing like an IPL cheerleader here lol.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I don't want the ipl to happen this year only to see Ms dhoni kicked out of the world cup team.
Indian fans can sacrifice an ipl to get rid of the useless trash that is ms dhoni.
No ipl means no way for dhoni to get into indian team.

Get over your little insecurities. Dhoni isn't coming back. I am sure Pant will be replaced soon. You can continue supporting your circus now.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I was talking about the Asian teams as we're discussing about the Asia cup. Of course , I don't think any IPL team would start as favourites against the likes of Aus, Eng , WI or NZ. Outside of these teams, it's a different story.

It's not just the 4 overseas players we're talking about. Every team has 4-5 Indian internationals who are no slouches either. For example MI has Rohit, Bumrah, Pandya brothers, Chahar who are all int'l class and have actually played for India. Pretty much the same for all teams. You are clearly deluding yourselves if you think any other Asian team can beat a lineup of QDK, Rohit, Pollard, Cutting, Pandyas, Bumrah, McClenaghan etc....

This is what you wrote above

If India's Asia cup opponents (Pak, SL, Ban, Afg) and the top 4 IPL teams (say MI, CSK, KKR and SRH) play an IPL style T20 tournament , who is more likely to win the whole thing ? You have to remove your tinted glasses though in order to get my point..

When will you start making sense? Do you even know which team is at the top in T20 rankings? Hint : It's an Asian team.

I can't believe how people keep posting rubbish after rubbish just to sound patriotic here.

 

[ammar_merry]

Let me just ask you this...

If India's Asia cup opponents (Pak, SL, Ban, Afg) and the top 4 IPL teams (say MI, CSK, KKR and SRH) play an IPL style T20 tournament , who is more likely to win the whole thing ? You have to remove your tinted glasses though in order to get my point..

My whole point is that may be barring Pak, all the other Asian teams will get beaten more often than not by even the bottom 4 IPL teams. You are only deluding yourselves if you think that Pak, Ban etc are better T20 teams than MI, SRH or KKR. The "domestic level players" you talk of would most likely walk into most of the Asian T20 lineups and I'm not even exaggerating.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...fying-group-champions-league-twenty20-2014-15

 

[Mesozoic]

I am not surprised you are one of those who got hurt by my post and once again posting nonsense just for the sake of it.

Where did I say Premier League is not the best football league in the world? As always stop putting words in my mouth.

Apart from cricket you obviously don't understand football too. Football leagues are played throughout the year. They are not organised like a circus from one country to another country just for 2 months. I found it funny when the whole circus was shifted to South Africa then UAE and now Sri Lanka too wants to entertain their kids lol.

Someone who is on a BJP and BCCI payroll shouldn't blame others of sucking up. Keep dancing like an IPL cheerleader here lol.

As usual another clueless rant.

You tried to downplay the IPL (as you always do for anything that's Indian saying that it did not result in India winning a T20 WC. I gave the Premier league - England example to prove that's a stupid logic and a senseless argument and now you're saying i'm putting words in your mouth.

Just because it runs for two months, it's a circus ?

So I guess the World cup, Ashes, Olympics etc are all circuses to you...

 

[Mesozoic]

This is what you wrote above



When will you start making sense? Do you even know which team is at the top in T20 rankings? Hint : It's an Asian team.

I can't believe how people keep posting rubbish after rubbish just to sound patriotic here.

What part did not make sense to you ? I said I was talking about Asian teams and took Pak, SL, Ban and Afg as examples. Aren't these countries in Asia?

Lol even Pak fans don't take their no.1 t20 ranking seriously and here you are embarassing yourselves bringing that up....

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

As usual another clueless rant.

You tried to downplay the IPL (as you always do for anything that's Indian) saying that it did not result in India winning a T20 WC. I gave the Premier league - England example to prove that's a stupid logic and a senseless argument and now you're saying i'm putting words in your mouth.

Just because it runs for two months, it's a circus ?

So I guess the World cup, Ashes, Olympics etc are all circuses to you...

You have already displayed your limited knowledge about cricket and football here. Don't embarrass yourself further. I thought you knew the difference between a league and a tournament. Learn it first.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...fying-group-champions-league-twenty20-2014-15

Oh I totally forgot there was a league like this also. IPL teams struggling to beat other teams from another circus leagues? And you were dreaming about them beating International T20 teams lol? [MENTION=151350]Mesozoic[/MENTION]

 

[Mesozoic]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...fying-group-champions-league-twenty20-2014-15

Things were a lot different back in 2014. MI was not as strong as they are now and they barely made it to the knockouts that year and on top of that Rohit and Corey Anderson were missing that game. Besides that Lahore Lions team was pretty strong too. More than half their team was seasoned Pak internationals. That team would easily beat the current Pak team more often than not. They went on to lose to KKR though..

 

[Mesozoic]

Oh I totally forgot there was a league like this also. IPL teams struggling to beat other teams from another circus leagues? And you were dreaming about them beating International T20 teams lol? [MENTION=151350]Mesozoic[/MENTION]

Struggling to beat ? That was a one-off. There's a reason why 4 out of those 6 editions were won by IPL teams. Stop embarassing yourselves...

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Things were a lot different back in 2014. MI was not as strong as they are now and they barely made it to the knockouts that year and on top of that Rohit and Corey Anderson were missing that game. Besides that Lahore Lions team was pretty strong too. More than half their team was seasoned Pak internationals. That team would easily beat the current Pak team more often than not. They went on to lose to KKR though..

Lol at excuses.

 

[Mesozoic]

Lol at excuses.

You can lol at whatever you want. Doesn't change the reality though..

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Struggling to beat ? That was a one-off. There's a reason why 4 out of those 6 editions were won by IPL teams. Stop embarassing yourselves...

How many IPL teams used to participate in that wanna be UEFA Champions League? I read it here sometime ago that there used to be 4 IPL teams while other leagues had maximum of 2 teams participating in it? That's why I call it a circus. No wonder that league was a total flop as well.