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Pollard played a grand total of 3 T20Is against Pakistan way back in 2016. The number's the same for QDK against India. Only a stupid troll would come to any sort of conclusion based on a sample size of a humongous number of 3 games.

Aww our IPL fan kid got hurt. It's pretty clear who is looking like a stupid troll in this thread lol.

At least I have stats of 3-4 matches against Pakistan. You on the other hand have no stats of MI as a team against any Asian team but still posting nonsense in this thread. I think you have embarrassed yourself enough in this thread. Move to next thread. :inti
 
Aww our IPL fan kid got hurt. It's pretty clear who is looking like a stupid troll in this thread lol.

At least I have stats of 3-4 matches against Pakistan. You on the other hand have no stats of MI as a team against any Asian team but still posting nonsense in this thread. I think you have embarrassed yourself enough in this thread. Move to next thread. :inti

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How on earth am I going to get stats of a franchise team against an int'l team ? Are you that desperate now in defending the state of "your" T20 team ?

I and [MENTION=142176]Pakhs[/MENTION] bhai (although indirectly ) have proven that MI has more players that can walk into the Pak T20 team than vice versa. No amount of your crying is going to change that. Have a good day my dear "fellow Indian". And yeah you can move to whatever thread you want and continue with your usual false flag attacks.
 
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How on earth am I going to get stats of a franchise team against an int'l team ? Are you that desperate now in defending the state of "your" T20 team ?

I and [MENTION=142176]Pakhs[/MENTION] bhai (although indirectly ) have proven that MI has more players that can walk into the Pak T20 team than vice versa. No amount of your crying is going to change that. Have a good day my dear "fellow Indian". And yeah you can move to whatever thread you want and continue with your usual false flag attacks.

Lol what an attention seeker. From 'MI can beat Asian teams' to 'MI players can make it into Pakistan team' to 'only 3 matches' to 'how can I get stats of IPL against intl teams?'.

If you don't have stats of your favorite IPL team against any Asian team then why are you posting nonsense here? As I said earlier stop embarrassing yourself further because you are really looking like a lallu laal here. :inti
 
Pretty ironic how you consider Malinga's age but don't do the same for Malik and Hafeez who're "officially" three years older than him. I can't believe I have to remind you this, but in the T20s it's the SR that matters more than avg. Any team would take a guy averaging 22 and striking at 135 over a guy averaging 26 at 115. Pakistan may be an "established international side" but their current t20 team is quite average to say the least and have lost 8 (9 if not for rain) out of the 10 T20is they played last year. As I said, you don't really need a T20 dream team to beat the current Pak team. MI is more than capable of doing that more often than not.

Malik and Hafeez are both batsman and have way better records than Pollard - Pollard is worst than Afridi when it comes to T20s. Malik and Hafeez are both not over weight bowlers like Malinga yes due to his experience he can still take wickets and be good for teams like MI no wonder when he was younger he used to take wicket in IPL asif he is playing against kids and it was more of a contest in international cricket. He never had such domination against Pakistan or international cricket as he has had in IPL same goes for pollard but ofcourse why would they not?
 
Malik and Hafeez are both batsman and have way better records than Pollard - Pollard is worst than Afridi when it comes to T20s. Malik and Hafeez are both not over weight bowlers like Malinga yes due to his experience he can still take wickets and be good for teams like MI no wonder when he was younger he used to take wicket in IPL asif he is playing against kids and it was more of a contest in international cricket. He never had such domination against Pakistan or international cricket as he has had in IPL same goes for pollard but ofcourse why would they not?

You are wasting your time now. Yes IPL teams can beat Asian teams but only in his dreams because he has already confessed there is no way he can provide stats to back his claims so what's the point?

I think we should come back to topic at hand rather than discussing someone's dreams here. :inti
 
Lol what an attention seeker. From 'MI can beat Asian teams' to 'MI players can make it into Pakistan team' to 'only 3 matches' to 'how can I get stats of IPL against intl teams?'.

If you don't have stats of your favorite IPL team against any Asian team then why are you posting nonsense here? As I said earlier stop embarrassing yourself further because you are really looking like a lallu laal here. :inti

Lol at the irony. You're calling me an attention seeker and a lallu laal. Lmao. :)))

You don't really need "stats" to come to a conclusion that Barcelona can beat the Nigerian national team or that the Golden state warriors can beat the Armenian national team. Only delusional or insecure trolls would refuse to accept that.

You're only embarrassing yourselves by getting triggered to no end on this matter. You're losing the tail. :yk
 
Lol at the irony. You're calling me an attention seeker and a lallu laal. Lmao. :)))

You don't really need "stats" to come to a conclusion that Barcelona can beat the Nigerian national team or that the Golden state warriors can beat the Armenian national team. Only delusional or insecure trolls would refuse to accept that.

You're only embarrassing yourselves by getting triggered to no end on this matter. You're losing the tail. :yk

Haha so Barcelona is same level as MI in cricket? Okay I get the idea now need to ignore kids here
 
Malik and Hafeez are both batsman and have way better records than Pollard - Pollard is worst than Afridi when it comes to T20s. Malik and Hafeez are both not over weight bowlers like Malinga yes due to his experience he can still take wickets and be good for teams like MI no wonder when he was younger he used to take wicket in IPL asif he is playing against kids and it was more of a contest in international cricket. He never had such domination against Pakistan or international cricket as he has had in IPL same goes for pollard but ofcourse why would they not?

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There's a reason why most of the Pak fans here are wanting Malik, Hafeez to be axed from the WT20 squad and on the other hand, Pollard is made the captain of a team which just happens to be the defending champions in the format. I don't know why it's so hard for you understand that reason.

And the same overweight Malinga delivered one of the best T20I bowling performances ever just a few months ago against a solid NZ team. His yorkers have gone nowhere and is still a world class death bowler. Last time he's played a T20 against Pakistan was in 2015. I'm not sure even a single current pak player have played against him. So your argument goes out of the window right there.
 
Haha so Barcelona is same level as MI in cricket? Okay I get the idea now need to ignore kids here

Never said that. Just drawing parallels to prove my point that you don't need a head to head game between a national team and club/franchise team to know who's better. :)
 
Lol at the irony. You're calling me an attention seeker and a lallu laal. Lmao. :)))

You don't really need "stats" to come to a conclusion that Barcelona can beat the Nigerian national team or that the Golden state warriors can beat the Armenian national team. Only delusional or insecure trolls would refuse to accept that.

You're only embarrassing yourselves by getting triggered to no end on this matter. You're losing the tail. :yk

The guy who doesn't know a difference between cricket and football is giving an example of Barcelona here? Barcelona unlike Mumbai Indians play throughout the year, they play as a team not as a bunch of individuals who don't even know which team they play for in the next season lol.

Your MI team which can last only 2 months in a year is going to beat Pakistan and Sri Lanka? Even Afghanistan and Bangladesh will beat them.

It seems you lost it when I posted stats of those two players and are now arguing just for the sake of it. Khisyaani billi khamba noche fits perfectly on a low life like you. :viru
 
At the moment it seems no cricket is going to happen this year. I think IPL should be cancelled and Asia Cup should be played next year. :inti
 
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The guy who doesn't know a difference between cricket and football is giving an example of Barcelona here? Barcelona unlike Mumbai Indians play throughout the year, they play as a team not as a bunch of individuals who don't even know which team they play for in the next season lol.

Your MI team which can last only 2 months in a year is going to beat Pakistan and Sri Lanka? Even Afghanistan and Bangladesh will beat them.

It seems you lost it when I posted stats of those two players and are now arguing just for the sake of it. Khisyaani billi khamba noche fits perfectly on a low life like you. :viru

So just because they play two months a year, they'll lose to Pak and Afg. Lol. :))

Do you realize how desperate you sound making that statement ?

No matter how hard you try to please your egos , it's not going to change the fact that MI or any other top IPL side will beat your Pak and SL sides on most days. Your pointless irrelevant "stats" taken from almost half a decade ago aren't going to prove anything. Try harder next time to seek a bit of attention. You'll eventually get some. :viru
 
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There's a reason why most of the Pak fans here are wanting Malik, Hafeez to be axed from the WT20 squad and on the other hand, Pollard is made the captain of a team which just happens to be the defending champions in the format. I don't know why it's so hard for you understand that reason.

And the same overweight Malinga delivered one of the best T20I bowling performances ever just a few months ago against a solid NZ team. His yorkers have gone nowhere and is still a world class death bowler. Last time he's played a T20 against Pakistan was in 2015. I'm not sure even a single current pak player have played against him. So your argument goes out of the window right there.

Pollard international record is poor and Malinga been reduced to one off performances here and there but both are IPL legends as they should be too good for domestic cricket.
 
Pollard international record is poor and Malinga been reduced to one off performances here and there but both are IPL legends as they should be too good for domestic cricket.

I suggest you to take a look at Asif Ali's int'l career. He is a regular in the Pak T20 team as a specialist bat. :)

If that doesn't convince you that you don't need to be an "exceptional" player to make into the current Pak team, I don't know what will.
 
I suggest you to take a look at Asif Ali's int'l career. He is a regular in the Pak T20 team as a specialist bat. :)

If that doesn't convince you that you don't need to be an "exceptional" player to make into the current Pak team, I don't know what will.

While he is busy looking at Asif Ali's T20 intl career you should take out some minutes from your trolling time and look at Pant's T20 Intl career. If IPL is such a great league I think we can find a player who is better than Rishabh Pant no?

Rishabh Pant:

Matches : 27
Innings : 25
Runs : 410
Avg : 20.5
SR : 122.02

Asif Ali :

Matches : 25
Innings : 24
Runs: 331
Avg: 18.39
SR: 128.29

Since you rate SR higher than Avg in T20's and they have pretty much same stats I think forget about Pakistan, Asif Ali can also make into Indian team just like average player Pant can make into Pak team. :inti
 
^^^ :))

How desperate are you to compare a WK with a specialist batsman ? He has lost his place to KL anyways.... :inti
 
So just because they play two months a year, they'll lose to Pak and Afg. Lol. :))

Do you realize how desperate you sound making that statement ?

No matter how hard you try to please your egos , it's not going to change the fact that MI or any other top IPL side will beat your Pak and SL sides on most days. Your pointless irrelevant "stats" taken from almost half a decade ago aren't going to prove anything. Try harder next time to seek a bit of attention. You'll eventually get some. :viru

I think you have entertained us and embarrassed yourself enough in this thread. You don't have any stats to back up your claims but still continuously yapping in this thread lol. MI can also beat Barcelona if it ever decides to play football. :viru
 
I think you have entertained us and embarrassed yourself enough in this thread. You don't have any stats to back up your claims but still continuously yapping in this thread lol. MI can also beat Barcelona if it ever decides to play football. :viru

Lol. You are the one who compared a WK with a specialist bat and embarrassed yourselves. Now that you have no comeback, you are back to your usual vitriol.

Have a good day ! :viru
 
^^^ :))

How desperate are you to compare a WK with a specialist batsman ? He has lost his place to KL anyways.... :inti

At least I am comparing with stats here. You are more than welcome to post their inning by inning with batting position stats to prove me wrong. But since you are only here to gloat you won't do that. :inti

Balls faced:

Rishabh Pant : 336
Asif Ali : 258

And I don't need to tell who was supposed to be the next big thing out of these two. :viru
 
Lol. You are the one who compared a WK with a specialist bat and embarrassed yourselves. Now that you have no comeback, you are back to your usual vitriol.

Have a good day ! :viru


If that doesn't convince you that you don't need to be an "exceptional" player to make into the current Pak team, I don't know what will.


Really I was the one who actually supported you that you don't need to be an exceptional player to either make into the Pak team or Indian team. Since I gave an example of Rishabh Pant you had no other choice but to change the goal post once again. :inti

May be you forgot that Pant can make into Indian team on his batting alone argument by his fans. :viru
 
Pollard international record is poor and Malinga been reduced to one off performances here and there but both are IPL legends as they should be too good for domestic cricket.

At least they are internationals. I have seen these fans hype up IPL superstar Jaydev Unadkat who was one of the worst bowler to play for Indian national team. He got a contract of 9-10 crores in IPL. :inti
 
At least I am comparing with stats here. You are more than welcome to post their inning by inning with batting position stats to prove me wrong. But since you are only here to gloat you won't do that. :inti

Balls faced:

Rishabh Pant : 336
Asif Ali : 258

And I don't need to tell who was supposed to be the next big thing out of these two. :viru

Lol. You're seriously making a mockery of yourselves by comparing Asif Ali with Pant. What next big thing lol ? Asif Ali was once called "Pakistan's Jos Butler". Now top that. :viru
 

If that doesn't convince you that you don't need to be an "exceptional" player to make into the current Pak team, I don't know what will.


Really I was the one who actually supported you that you don't need to be an exceptional player to either make into the Pak team or Indian team. Since I gave an example of Rishabh Pant you had no other choice but to change the goal post once again. :inti

May be you forgot that Pant can make into Indian team on his batting alone argument by his fans. :viru

No I don't think Pant can make it into the Indian team on his batting alone. You can go cry about that with his "fans". Not with me.

Don't know what goal post shifting you're talking about ? I just said he's a WK bat and can't be compared with a specialist bat. If that is goal post shifting to you, you have all my sympathies....

Cheers! :inti
 
No I don't think Pant can make it into the Indian team on his batting alone. You can go cry about that with his "fans". Not with me.

Don't know what goal post shifting you're talking about ? I just said he's a WK bat and can't be compared with a specialist bat. If that is goal post shifting to you, you have all my sympathies....

Cheers! :inti

IPL teams can beat Asian teams
IPL players can make into Pakistan team
Only 3 games
How can I get stats of IPL teams against Asian teams?
You don't need to be an exceptional player to make into Pakistan team
Pant is a WK batsman

Lol you are pathetic. :inti
 
Lol. You're seriously making a mockery of yourselves by comparing Asif Ali with Pant. What next big thing lol ? Asif Ali was once called "Pakistan's Jos Butler". Now top that. :viru
So you don't have any stats to prove me wrong but indirectly you are saying that they have pretty much same career and both are not exceptional. Hence proved. :inti
 
IPL teams can beat Asian teams
IPL players can make into Pakistan team
Only 3 games
How can I get stats of IPL teams against Asian teams?
You don't need to be an exceptional player to make into Pakistan team
Pant is a WK batsman

Lol you are pathetic. :inti

Just because you don't have anything to counter me with, doesn't mean I'm wrong. As I said before, you are more than welcome to prove me wrong about any of my statements any time. But all you've done is name call and post irrelevant filth like a typical low life that you are. Don't bother quoting me from now on unless you have something substantial to prove your stance.

Thanks. :inti
 
So you don't have any stats to prove me wrong but indirectly you are saying that they have pretty much same career and both are not exceptional. Hence proved. :inti

One is a WK and another is a batsman. Please stop going around in circles and embarrassing yourselves. :inti
 
Just because you don't have anything to counter me with, doesn't mean I'm wrong. As I said before, you are more than welcome to prove me wrong about any of my statements any time. But all you've done is name call and post irrelevant filth like a typical low life that you are. Don't bother quoting me from now on unless you have something substantial to prove your stance.

Thanks. :inti

Are you running away now? What a wuss. I have actually posted stats to back up my argument so its your turn to prove me wrong rather than calling those stats filth. But you on the other hand are not ready to come out of your dreams and posting nonsense as always. I would like to say exactly the same thing if you don't have anything useful to add to the topic don't embarrass yourself further.

I have yet to see a useful post from you in this thread where you have showed any example of your pyjama league teams beating Asian teams. Go on and prove how can IPL teams beat Asian teams. :inti
 
One is a WK and another is a batsman. Please stop going around in circles and embarrassing yourselves. :inti

You are losing it now. At least you could have proved me wrong by posting stats of these two batting at different positions or Pant batting at 4 while Asif batting at 6-7 and vice versa but no you don't want to post anything useful and are just looking to post trash after trash. I am ready to be proven wrong. Till then both players careers are pretty similar and even a stray dog in India knows that Pant is/was in the team because of his big hitting just like Mr Asif Ali. Hoping to see an intelligent response with stats from you this time. :inti
 
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Are you running away now? What a wuss. I have actually posted stats to back up my argument so its your turn to prove me wrong rather than calling those stats filth. But you on the other hand are not ready to come out of your dreams and posting nonsense as always. I would like to say exactly the same thing if you don't have anything useful to add to the topic don't embarrass yourself further.

I have yet to see a useful post from you in this thread where you have showed any example of your pyjama league teams beating Asian teams. Go on and prove how can IPL teams beat Asian teams. :inti

Lol. What stats have you posted to bAcK uP yOuR aRgUmEnT ? :yk

Only stats you've posted are about how a couple of MI players average more against India than Pakistan in a sample size of big ol' 3 games. I have no idea what them averaging more against India has to do with anything we're talking about. Only person living in dreams here is you who believe that the likes of Afghanistan and Bangladesh will beat any IPL team. :))
 
. Go on and prove how can IPL teams beat Asian teams. :inti

Because the likes of MI ,KKR, SRH etc have more T20 match winners than the likes of Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh etc. If you compare MI and Pak as a best case example..

QDK and Rohit Sharma are better T20 batsmen than any Pak batsmen and there's no one in the latter team that can match the hitting prowess (which btw is the most important aspect of T20 batting ) of Pollard, Cutting, Pandya etc. Bumrah, Malinga,Chahar etc are on par with the Pak bowling attack even in a worst case scenario.

No offense but no sane cricket fan/expert would pick the likes of Malik, Hafeez, Rizwan etc over Pollard, Cutting and Pandya for a T20 game. You can live in your fantasy land where your 40 yr olds are top class T20 tailunts and that the likes of Bangladesh and Afghanistan would beat IPL teams everyday with their "PoWeR pAcKeD bAtTiNG lINeUpS" but I refuse to do so.

Cheers again. :inti
 
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Because the likes of MI ,KKR, SRH etc have more T20 match winners than the likes of Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh etc. If you compare MI and Pak as a best case example..

QDK and Rohit Sharma are better T20 batsmen than any Pak batsmen and there's no one in the latter team that can match the hitting prowess (which btw is the most important aspect of T20 batting ) of Pollard, Cutting, Pandya etc. Bumrah, Malinga,Chahar etc are on par with the Pak bowling attack even in a worst case scenario.

No offense but no sane cricket fan/expert would pick the likes of Malik, Hafeez, Rizwan etc over Pollard, Cutting and Pandya for a T20 game. You can live in your fantasy land where your 40 yr olds are top class T20 tailunts and that the likes of Bangladesh and Afghanistan would beat IPL teams everyday with their "PoWeR pAcKeD bAtTiNG lINeUpS" but I refuse to do so.

Cheers again. :inti

Lol what? Is this how you are going to play cricket now? Did you forget that cricket is a team game and which team is at the top in T20's?

Still if you want to compare them on player by player basis then I have already posted the stats of your two international legends Pollard and QDK against Pakistan and India. If you think they can beat Pakistan and Sri Lanka then these same IPL teams can also beat India right? :inti
 
Lol what? Is this how you are going to play cricket now? Did you forget that cricket is a team game and which team is at the top in T20's?

Still if you want to compare them on player by player basis then I have already posted the stats of your two international legends Pollard and QDK against Pakistan and India. If you think they can beat Pakistan and Sri Lanka then these same IPL teams can also beat India right? :inti

All the reasons and the fallacies behind Pakistan's T20 ranking is widely discussed over here and even most of the sensible Pak posters here acknowledge that. Let's not go down there.

And QDK and Pollard having superior stats against India over 3 games has absolutely nothing do to with what we're discussing. Those same teams would not beat India because they'd lose players to the Indian team. Don't think MI playing without Rohit, Bumrah and Pandya (coz these three are Indian T20 regulars) will have much chance against the Indian side.
 
At least they are internationals. I have seen these fans hype up IPL superstar Jaydev Unadkat who was one of the worst bowler to play for Indian national team. He got a contract of 9-10 crores in IPL. :inti

Couldnt agree with you more! Unadkat case is proof that domestic cricket of any nature cant be compered to international cricket. Recently Karthik has spoken about how WC matches were different to IPL etc.
 
I suggest you to take a look at Asif Ali's int'l career. He is a regular in the Pak T20 team as a specialist bat. :)

If that doesn't convince you that you don't need to be an "exceptional" player to make into the current Pak team, I don't know what will.

Yes Asif Ali has been dropped from international cricket but if he was allowed to play IPL he would be IPL legend just like some other international failures
 
LOL. NO IPL team can regularly beat Pakistan. Mumbai and Chennai might be able to beat Bangladesh and Sri Lanka regularly. People who think IPL teams can beat Pakistan are delusional lol
 
Yes Asif Ali has been dropped from international cricket but if he was allowed to play IPL he would be IPL legend just like some other international failures

That wasn't my point. If Asif Ali with such a pathetic record can play those many games , then someone like a Pollard will walk into the Pak team based on his batting alone let alone his bowling and out of the world fielding.
 
Don't mistake what I'm doing here for trolling. I genuinely think that the T20 stocks (esp batting) in the current Asian teams (including India) are way behind that of the likes of Australia, England, West Indies and arguably even New Zealand.

I look at the SC teams and see nothing but accumulators , "solidifiers" (whatever that means) and power hitters with zero power hogging up the batting lineups. Rohit Sharma is the only Asian batsman who can match the hitting prowess of some of the bashers like Warner, Butler, Finch, Morgan, Russell, Lewis etc and even he takes some time to settle. Kohli used to possess that but he too has lost it in the recent past. Bowling is literally the same all over the world but T20 is a batsman's game and that is going to leave most of the Asian teams catching up at the WT20 later this year (if it goes on).
 
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LOL. NO IPL team can regularly beat Pakistan. Mumbai and Chennai might be able to beat Bangladesh and Sri Lanka regularly. People who think IPL teams can beat Pakistan are delusional lol

Pakistan up until 2018 was a good T20 team. Not extraordinary but still decent enough. Things have changed a lot in the last one year. Many are now past their prime (Hafeez , Malik, Hassan) or have lost the novelty factor (Fakhar, Shadab, Faheem etc). Their results in 2019 prove just that. I really don't think in their current state, they can beat top IPL teams on most days.
 
I dont understand one thing. I have seen the PCB only say No about each and everything the BCCI request. then they turn around and whine about india not helping and india not playing matches with them

I really dont get what's the plan here? Keep antoganizing BCCI and then keep hoping for them to play? Personally I would believe a friendly approach works much more than hostility, and since it's the PCB more in need of these matches, it's also up to PCB to agree to some accommodations. You cannot keep being hostile and refuse everything and then expect the other person to pretend all is fine.

Yes relations between the two countries is not great but the way PCB is going about even if they become better BCCI is going to remember every No
 
I dont understand one thing. I have seen the PCB only say No about each and everything the BCCI request. then they turn around and whine about india not helping and india not playing matches with them

I really dont get what's the plan here? Keep antoganizing BCCI and then keep hoping for them to play? Personally I would believe a friendly approach works much more than hostility, and since it's the PCB more in need of these matches, it's also up to PCB to agree to some accommodations. You cannot keep being hostile and refuse everything and then expect the other person to pretend all is fine.

Yes relations between the two countries is not great but the way PCB is going about even if they become better BCCI is going to remember every No

What No to each and every BCCI request?
 
I dont understand one thing. I have seen the PCB only say No about each and everything the BCCI request. then they turn around and whine about india not helping and india not playing matches with them

I really dont get what's the plan here? Keep antoganizing BCCI and then keep hoping for them to play? Personally I would believe a friendly approach works much more than hostility, and since it's the PCB more in need of these matches, it's also up to PCB to agree to some accommodations. You cannot keep being hostile and refuse everything and then expect the other person to pretend all is fine.

Yes relations between the two countries is not great but the way PCB is going about even if they become better BCCI is going to remember every No

Why should PCB accept to postpone or cancel the Asia Cup, just because India wants to play IPL?

Pakistan players won't be involved in it and will miss out on cricket as a result. In all likelihood, there won't be any cricket for the next few months anyway.

Pakistan has an absolutely packed schedule from July onwards and if the Asia Cup is postponed, there will be no window for it without further shifting around other series. If it's canceled, that doesn't help either.
 
Why should PCB accept to postpone or cancel the Asia Cup, just because India wants to play IPL?

Pakistan players won't be involved in it and will miss out on cricket as a result. In all likelihood, there won't be any cricket for the next few months anyway.

Pakistan has an absolutely packed schedule from July onwards and if the Asia Cup is postponed, there will be no window for it without further shifting around other series. If it's canceled, that doesn't help either.

Because they have to think long term. One day they might need help in PSL too. Or they want future tours from India. So a small sacrifice for potential long term gain and improved relationship
 
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