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Won't deploy Indian troops in Afghanistan: Sitharaman to US Defence Secretary Mattis

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A categorical Nirmala Sitharaman told her United States counterpart James Mattis today that there will be no Indian troops in Afghanistan."There shall not be any (Indian) boots on the ground in Afghanistan," the Defence Minister told reporters after talks with the visiting US Defence Secretary.
The Defence Minister, however, added that India has contributed consistently to Afghanistan by building dams, schools and providing medical assistance and training to its people.

"These will continue. These engagements will continue," Sitharaman told Mattis, but "there shall be no boots on the ground in Afghanistan". She also said that she has raised the issue of US military aid to Pakistan in her talks with Mattis.
She said there was a growing convergence between India and the US over the issue of terrorism in the region and condemnation of those who use terror as an instrument of state policy.
Sitharaman underlined India's strong relations with the US. She said the two countries "share a strong and vibrant strategic partnership as the world's largest democracies". "We also share fundamental values and interests," she said.
Mattis said the US values India's "invaluable contribution to Afghanistan" and welcomes further efforts to promote democracy, safety and security there.
Both New Delhi and Washington have shared concerns about Afghanistan. Trump has also cleared the way for the deployment of thousands more US troops in the war-torn country. Washington has urged India to increase its stake in Afghanistan. India has, however, ruled out deploying troops in Afghanistan.
Nonetheless, training of the Afghan National Army and supply of more hardware and weapons platforms to the Afghan security forces by India cannot be ruled out.
On the table will be the all crucial cooperation and sharing of Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR). India and the US have strong cooperation in this area. However, encrypted messaging platforms used by terrorists continues to be a cause of concern for Indian law enforcement agencies.
MATTIS FIRST HIGH-PROFILE TRUMP MAN TO VISIT INDIA
James Mattis is the first high-profile cabinet minister of the Trump administration to visit India. He will also meet Prime Minister Narendra Modi later today towards making India-US relations "shock-proof".
Often India-US relations have suffered because of external factors like India's dealings with Russia or US cutting down on visa for software professionals. The idea is to take US-India relations to a different level and make it "shock-proof."
The US has indicated as much. General Mattis told reporters in Washington that the "strengthening of strategic relationship with India is not at the expense of others".
Prime Minister Narendra Modi and US President Donald Trump met in June this year. Later, Trump called out Islamabad for supporting terror groups and "agents of chaos".
CHINA BRINGS INDIA, US CLOSER
An aggressive China has brought US and Japan closer. In June this year the three countries conducted one of the biggest joint exercises in the Bay of Bengal. As aircraft and helicopters carriers of India and US and Japan steamed through Indian Ocean Region along with stealth a warships and subamirne the signal to Beijing was loud and clear.
India and US will stress on freedom of navigation through the disputed South China Sea.
Sources indicated that India and US could decide to conduct a joint Humanitarian Disaster Relief (HADR) Operation including helicopter-borne operations. "Joint exercises allow us to know and understand each better," source said.
Both sides are also expected to discuss and broader the scope of Defence Technology Trade Initiative (DTTI). The DDTI was the brain-child of Obama administration and although the Modi Government has pursued it vigorously none of the projects have matured. Sources said the DTTI will be expended to Air and Naval system.
https://in.news.yahoo.com/james-mattis-delhi-india-us-074947584.html
 
Shabhash india. we are a sovereign nation. We do what is best for us. we dnt give anyone our land to use and neither we do what someone else wants us to do. And that's how a successful nation should be.
 
Great decision. I am glad Indian gov did not come under US pressure. Our policies should be independent and follow what is in best interest of Indian people.
 
Sensible from India.

Americans will be fools to have Indian troops in Afghanistan. It will only exacerbate the situation further in the whole region.

General Mattis told reporters in Washington that the "strengthening of strategic relationship with India is not at the expense of others"

I don't know if he means any one else than Pakistan here? Maybe China? If US and India are strategically aligning and US is actually asking for ground troops in India then it certainly does so at the expense of not only Pakistan but also China.

It is becoming quite clear now that US only wants to keep its presence in Afghanistan for economic (see minerals) and geo-strategic purposes. And security is a tiny part of their schemes.
Attacks in Afghanistan and Pakistan are good for instability and thus feeding the military industrial complex. Security is not an issue unless those people can have ability to strike Americans.
 
An aggressive China has brought US and Japan closer. In June this year the three countries conducted one of the biggest joint exercises in the Bay of Bengal. As aircraft and helicopters carriers of India and US and Japan steamed through Indian Ocean Region along with stealth a warships and subamirne the signal to Beijing was loud and clear.

https://in.news.yahoo.com/james-mattis-delhi-india-us-074947584.html
"along with stealth a warships"? Is that some sort of journalist speak only known to a select few?

"and subamirne"? What is a "subamirne"? A new kind of stealthy warship that no one knows about?

With journalism of such high quality, I'm sure whatever the article says is 100% correct. :))
 
"along with stealth a warships"? Is that some sort of journalist speak only known to a select few?

"and subamirne"? What is a "subamirne"? A new kind of stealthy warship that no one knows about?

With journalism of such high quality, I'm sure whatever the article says is 100% correct. :))

Dawn has also reported this news. Good job, as you found some grammatical errors.
 
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good decision. Afghanistan is a strategic no-no for Pakistan. Thus, we should not do anything to antagonize a neighbor with whom we should be working to repair our relationship with. Nothing of note exists for India in Afghanistan. The liabilities in building any infrastructure through Afghanistan is far outweighed by the benefits of a good, stable pakistan who is our friend (if not ally).
 
Good for us. US started it and let them complete also.

no, the soviet union started it. prior to that the british tried to start it. prior to that the greek and macedonians tried to start it. the world is left to finish this.

afghanistan is one of those nations that has been exploited, looted and abused by numerous actors. the united states was actually one of the first sources of stability to the nation.
 
I think this tells you that America, for right or wrong, is right behind Pakistan.
 
Dawn has also reported this news. Good job, as you found some grammatical errors.
Because dawn has reported it too somehow makes it more credible? You do realise that most of these news outlets simply pick up the same stories and regurgitate them using copy/paste? Other than stories from their own 'home patch' it is rarer than a blue moon for the sub-continent media outlets to come up with their own material. Anyway, what is a "subamirne"?
 
Because dawn has reported it too somehow makes it more credible? You do realise that most of these news outlets simply pick up the same stories and regurgitate them using copy/paste? Other than stories from their own 'home patch' it is rarer than a blue moon for the sub-continent media outlets to come up with their own material. Anyway, what is a "subamirne"?

Oh bhai. just because one or two spelling mistakes doesnt make news irrelevant too. You do understand this thing .
Secondly it has been clear message from indian side during the usa defence minister visit to india.No doubt about it.
 
Why would they deploy troops when they've already got their state sponsored terrorists running around?
 
they dont need to station frontline troops when they have filled the place with their intelligence officials and covert operatives. The whole point of India being there is to hurt Pakistan. End of.
 
"along with stealth a warships"? Is that some sort of journalist speak only known to a select few?

"and subamirne"? What is a "subamirne"? A new kind of stealthy warship that no one knows about?

With journalism of such high quality, I'm sure whatever the article says is 100% correct. :))

You're right. India are going to send troops to Afghanistan after all. :2gunsfiri
 
No troops in Afghanistan, but a barrage of spies from RAW would be delivered to destabilize Pakistan from its western neighbouring country.
 
India continues to spread the message of non violence and peace. Wish others could learn from her.
 
No troops in Afghanistan, but a barrage of spies from RAW would be delivered to destabilize Pakistan from its western neighbouring country.
what would India gain from that other than more Hafiz Sayeeds? A stable Pakistan is a good market for India.
 
what would India gain from that other than more Hafiz Sayeeds? A stable Pakistan is a good market for India.

I agree but that feeling has to be mutual. You can't support LeT, JeM, insurgency in Kashmir and expect India wish stable Pakistan.
 
India is very popular in Afghanistan. 9/10 are positive towards India. No need to ruin that.

Even the Afghanis here in Toronto i have met in Mosque are Pro Indians. Some of them actually came to Canada via India.
Even Indians are actually very friendly towards Afghanis.
India-Afghan frienship proves that religion is secondary when it comes to having better relationship. Long lives India-Afghan relationship.
 
what would India gain from that other than more Hafiz Sayeeds? A stable Pakistan is a good market for India.

exactly what Pakistanis want...a stable relationship with India and Afghanistan. Stability in the region is an opportunity to be recognized as world leaders for both India and Pakistan. Look what Europe and NA has accomplished after they stopped fighting each other.
 
exactly what Pakistanis want...a stable relationship with India and Afghanistan. Stability in the region is an opportunity to be recognized as world leaders for both India and Pakistan. Look what Europe and NA has accomplished after they stopped fighting each other.

EU like relationship will not established between India-Pakistan, not in our lifetime. Al though i do want peace between two countries. Both should avoid meddling with each other's affair, and both should definately stop with trying to destabilise each other. In other words, India and Pakistan both should let each other live peacefully( ignore each other in all sectors if needed).
The real trouble start when both nations tries to be over friendly, and one Mumbai like attack and both nation will be in War like situation. So, as i said avoiding each other is best possible solution.
 
American and British special forces alongside local Afghans have made little impact against the Taliban in 16 years , what exactly can Indian forces do who specialise in shooting pellet guns at kids?

Of course it's a good decision.
 
American and British special forces alongside local Afghans have made little impact against the Taliban in 16 years , what exactly can Indian forces do who specialise in shooting pellet guns at kids?

Of course it's a good decision.

Indian army also specialise in sending Jihadis to Heaven. Just ask the militants in Kashmir.
 
Indian army also specialise in sending Jihadis to Heaven. Just ask the militants in Kashmir.

You're just getting emotional. The Indian army is not known for being great at fighting in combat. Freedom fighters of Kashmir have killed plenty of Indian troops too.

Indian army doesn't have the experience or skills to fight the Taliban in Afghanistan, would be cannon fodder. Good move by India.
 
EU like relationship will not established between India-Pakistan, not in our lifetime. Al though i do want peace between two countries. Both should avoid meddling with each other's affair, and both should definately stop with trying to destabilise each other. In other words, India and Pakistan both should let each other live peacefully( ignore each other in all sectors if needed).
The real trouble start when both nations tries to be over friendly, and one Mumbai like attack and both nation will be in War like situation. So, as i said avoiding each other is best possible solution.

Would be great if Pakistan India China can work together and create an EU type relationship.
 
American and British special forces alongside local Afghans have made little impact against the Taliban in 16 years , what exactly can Indian forces do who specialise in shooting pellet guns at kids?

Of course it's a good decision.

Indian army is responsible. They dnt do anything without the orders of govt. You think they cant do what pakistan army did in bangladesh or mynamar army doing now or many examples ?? they can do. But Indian army is the symbol of humanity.They only do action when its become very necessary or majboori.
 
Well India is an utter failure in Kashmir where the average joe is unarmed they would be severely out of their depth in Afghanistan where every single person is armed to the teeth. Good face saving decision by India.


Besides they have thousands of RAW agents running around in Afghanistan they don't really need boots on the ground.
 
Well India is an utter failure in Kashmir where the average joe is unarmed they would be severely out of their depth in Afghanistan where every single person is armed to the teeth. Good face saving decision by India.


Besides they have thousands of RAW agents running around in Afghanistan they don't really need boots on the ground.

Indian army is only puppet of govt. i am sure if we leave it up to them , then average joe wont be able to even think of stone pelting in kashmir. And army can somehow controo the situation.
I know some bad deeds also by army in kashmir. But no organization is 100 percents saints in world.
Third why would we give a chance to turn afghanistan our enemy by deploying our army there ? We are not stupid enough.
Fourth you are right there are higher chances of our intelligence agencies operatiing there anyhow. So it should not matter .
 
No troops in Afghanistan, but a barrage of spies from RAW would be delivered to destabilize Pakistan from its western neighbouring country.

that is a convenient thing to state (and its other counterpart - ISI attempting to destabilize India). what plagues both nations are strong, corrupt centralized regimes when the need of the hour is a federal, de-centralized approach.

use this as a critical rule of thumb - if you have two or more economic hubs that generate more revenue than the rest of the nation combined, or if you have more than one economic hub/region with a population of more than 50 million, a centralized government will not be very successful.

india does not need ISI to have destabilizing insurgencies, and pakistan does not need RAW to have destabilizing demands for autonomy.
 
Would be great if Pakistan India China can work together and create an EU type relationship.

I dont think so it will ever work. China and Pakistan are two countried that India hate the most. Opening up its border to them is just like saying in hindi "aah Bail(Ox) muje maar"
 
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