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I think the match will go ahead. I will be going. This is going to be very tense in the middle and in the crowd too.
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World Cup: Pakistan v India, 16th June 2019, Old Trafford
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The most anticipated cricket match since the 2017 Champions Trophy final.
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This match wont happen.
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Nice to see the excuses already lined up.
Only in your dreams mate
This Pakistani side is the best we are going to field in a WC after 1999, and India aren't invincible by any stretch of imagination. It's 65-35 in favour of India.
Indian
Best top 3 check
Best spin bowling duo C
Inability of the bowlers to bat Worry
Mediocre middle order W
Pandya W
Pakistan
The most complete bowling attack C
Great batting depth(gives the freedom to top order batters who are fairly consistent) C
Shadab's form with the ball W
Inability of the batters to play at a higher sr W
Lol where did I give any excuse? I'm confident that my team will win . So , why would I need excuses.
If India plays to it's potential, then there is zero chance for Pak.
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The most anticipating match since 2003 or 1999 I guess. Even 2011 was very much anticipated watched by both country's prime ministers.
Nah man. No Indo-Pak clash can ever come close to Mohali 2011. ( Unless it's a world cup final).
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Ironically that was quite a boring game...due to the slow pitch that got slower once the ball got older.
Agreed
Nah, wasn't boring by any means, there was so much pressure and noise, and my face tuned red when we lost. At that very moment, I prayed that someday we would take revenge and CT 2017 final was that day AH!.
IA, we are gonna win another final against India in 2019.
Ameen!
Since 2011. WC >>> CT and the 2015 WC match was already decided before it even started.
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Luck you, I applied for the ballot on 3 occasions but failed each time
wanted to get tickets for that game and the WC final
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Pakistan also beat the daylights out of India in CT 17 final in UK.
What does that mean? Nothing, past is past. Winning against one time doesnt neceasary mean you are going to win again against that team. You can say such things about minnows but predicting such thing after past 2,3 matches against a team who has won the last ICC tournament is ranked not great but still 5.
However, I believe India has been been top cricket for past few years now and key has been their consistency. They will be tough team to beat but couple of encounters in Asia cup deosnt prove anything. Even in a series you can lose some comprehensively and then can come back. Its how cricket goes.
Both team has some quality players and if anybody denies that then he is letting his emotions come into his judgement rather than facts.
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India have never beaten Pakistan in an ICC 50 over knock out game in a WC/CT 
the last time they met in such an environment, their cowardly fans left the the game while Pak were beating them brutally from genesis to revelations. Just goes to show you the mentality of the team and their pathetic fair weather fans, all talk that's about it just like their entire country and army full of jobbers who become hero's for being squashed like bugs What's even more hilarious is their cowardly cricket team paying tribute to the Indian army in the most fitting way by surrendering to a Pilot of Pakistani origin more recently 
the last time they met in such an environment, their cowardly fans left the the game while Pak were beating them brutally from genesis to revelations. Just goes to show you the mentality of the team and their pathetic fair weather fans, all talk that's about it just like their entire country and army full of jobbers who become hero's for being squashed like bugs What's even more hilarious is their cowardly cricket team paying tribute to the Indian army in the most fitting way by surrendering to a Pilot of Pakistani origin more recently No Pakistan is way behind India and it is not even a contest. India will win 95 times out 100.Pakistan just got lucky in 2017 CT finals and luck can take you only so far.
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India is better but the issue isn't the difference in talent between the two. Much weaker sides than Pakistan such as West Indies, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka would actually go out and try to beat India. Pakistan have recently surrendered mentally before the match even starts and seem to be over-awed by the situation and vast majority of crowed support agains them on the field.
What makes you think it will change this time. Asia cup proved to me CT finals was just one off and flukey win which can happen to any team.
Yes Pakistan will have a chance as it is a match and anything can happen but I don't see Pakistan standing any chance if India is on top of their game even if Pakistan bring their A game.
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Well the match is at Old Trafford and it is very well known for its extra bounce. Pakistani bowlers will be a lot better placed with these conditions and I am expecting Shaheen Shah Afridi to do well as long as he stays fit or this match.
Did he not play in Asia cup? To me it is not like when Wasim and Waqar were playing, India had to hope Pakistan were sub par to beat them.
Now Pakistan has to hope India has sub par game to beat them.
India have never beaten Pakistan in an ICC 50 over knock out game in a WC/CT
What are you talking about? 2011 Mohali wasn't a knock out game?
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You cant compare the UAE surfaces to Old Trafford, India will know this very well and they will prepare accordingly I am sure. Pakistan may also have Hasnain develop into a genuine pace threat by then and he will also be gunning to go against the top 3-4 in a big match like this.
As long as Pakistan has these youngsters with the nothing to lose attitude I expect them to do well. Shadab is a worry for me as he seems to be much more concerned with social media.
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India have never beaten Pakistan in an ICC 50 over knock out game in a WC/CT
Are you high bro?, never beaten Pak in a Icc 50 over knockout game?
) I guess Pakistan won both the matches in 2011 and 1996 then 
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I admire your passion but your passion is severely obscuring facts.
In a 50 over ICC cricket world cup there are 3 most important phases of knock out matches - the Quarter Final, the Semi Final and the Final.
1996 Quarterfinal Bangalore - India beat Pakistan.
2011 Semi-Final Mohali - India beat Pakistan - and went on to win the World Cup.
And I know it's not a 50 over format but as you may know India beat Pakistan in the T20 World Cup final too.
Bottom line, India has pretty good experience in trouncing Pakistan at the most crucial phases of a World Tournament.
But I love this banter anyway - I wish the best team wins on 16th June.
In a 50 over ICC cricket world cup there are 3 most important phases of knock out matches - the Quarter Final, the Semi Final and the Final.
1996 Quarterfinal Bangalore - India beat Pakistan.
2011 Semi-Final Mohali - India beat Pakistan - and went on to win the World Cup.
And I know it's not a 50 over format but as you may know India beat Pakistan in the T20 World Cup final too.
Bottom line, India has pretty good experience in trouncing Pakistan at the most crucial phases of a World Tournament.
But I love this banter anyway - I wish the best team wins on 16th June.
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And if Pakistan plays to its potential, a repeat of the CT 2017 is in order.
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Pakistan won arguably the biggest Indo-Pak game in 2017, which was a 50-overs final and was held in the same country as the upcoming World Cup.
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The FINAL of the FINAL Champions Trophy tournament is definitely bigger than any other Indo-Pak encounter, with the exception of Mohali, maybe.
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agreed..
i'd put them in this order
world cup 2011 semi final in india
champions trophy 2017 final
1996 world cup quarter final
2003 world cup group game
2007 world t20 final
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CT2017 was bit of a timepass tournament. What really matters is the world cups in ODI and t20. India has a clean sweep record on this front. Hopefully there is more pain to come this June
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Many Indian fans here will probably stop following cricket altogether, if Pakistan comes out on top in this contest. India cannot afford a loss in this match, while Pakistan has nothing to lose.
Very interesting match. Possibly the most anticipated since 2003WC.
Very interesting match. Possibly the most anticipated since 2003WC.
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Hahaha what a loser mentality buddy if Pakistan beat India by 5-10 runs and you called it lucky I can probably support your claim that it was luck but let me remind you that Pakistan won by 180 runs that is not luck that is pure ownage
Just compare this team to the 2015 one. We're not the best but we're definitely a lot better than the team in 2015.
The 2015 indo pak match was already decided. This match is going to be much closer than u might expect. S
India is good and all but definitely not as good as some of u think
The 2015 indo pak match was already decided. This match is going to be much closer than u might expect. S
India is good and all but definitely not as good as some of u think
You're putting way too much emphasis on the CT. It was a tier 2 tournament (similar to the Asia cup but with more teams) that doesn't even exist anymore.
Why can't India afford a loss? India would still in all likelihood make the semis, whether they lose or forfeit this match.
Coz the amount of arrogance some indians are showing is going to get shattered if that happens. The trolling will begin BIG time
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Too much emotion riding on this game. For Pakistanis, it's just another match.
Didn't afg tie with Ind?
Didn't ban take it to the last ball against Ind?
The conditions are EXTREMELY different.
U can't compare it.
Plus the asia cup was 6 months ago.
The team against Afghanistan was India's C team. No Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli, Pandya, Chahal, Bumrah, Bhuvi, or Shami.
6 months isn't a long time. The Pakistani team hasn't improved that much recently. For example, they just lost in SA where India won 5-1.
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what do bilaterals have to do with the world cup?
are you forgetting new zealand clean swept australia in 2007 before the world cup
bilaterals have no bearing on world cup one off matches
the team that plays better cricket on the day wins...
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Looking forward to India boycotting this match rofl.
England announced prior to the World cup 2003 they will not go to Zimbabwe come what may and they lost points as well as qualification to the next round.
Waiting to see India doing this, lets see how they'll forget about the february situation and behave as though everything is back to normal with their news channels telecasting joint transmissions.
England announced prior to the World cup 2003 they will not go to Zimbabwe come what may and they lost points as well as qualification to the next round.
Waiting to see India doing this, lets see how they'll forget about the february situation and behave as though everything is back to normal with their news channels telecasting joint transmissions.
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I cant wait for this!
Will be in the crowd and trolling Indians all day. Win or lose it will be fun.
Will be in the crowd and trolling Indians all day. Win or lose it will be fun.
Didn't know u were playing your c team against ban and Wi as well.
Btw i watched the ind vs sa 5-1 series. Have u forgotten that markram was the captain. He made severe blunders on the field. It should have been a draw 3-3.
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Agree with this.
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Got lucky in 2012 as well when beaten India on their home soil comprehensively, that was the last series both the teams played.
India got beaten by 180 runs in CT 17 final, that must be some luck.
India is ranked 2 so they are obviously performing better but 95 out of 100 is all emotions speaking.
Couple of games in Asia Cup which nobody in the world cares about is nothing to rave about.
2011 WC, 1 win in 2012 series, 2015 WC, ICC CT 17 1st match, CT 13, 2 wins in Asia Cup.
Pak won 2012 series 2-1, Asia Cup, CT 17 final.
So
Pak 4
India 7
In last 11 ODI encounters.
Where is that 95% win rate, kindly enlighten me. This is the record even when Pak has been poor side on most part if these encounters and you know the overall record.
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Got lucky in 2012 as well when beaten India on their home soil comprehensively, that was the last series both the teams played.
India got beaten by 180 runs in CT 17 final, that must be some luck.
India is ranked 2 so they are obviously performing better but 95 out of 100 is all emotions speaking.
Couple of games in Asia Cup which nobody in the world cares about is nothing to rave about.
2011 WC, 1 win in 2012 series, 2015 WC, ICC CT 17 1st match, CT 13, 2 wins in Asia Cup.
Pak won 2012 series 2-1, Asia Cup, CT 17 final.
So
Pak 4
India 7
In last 11 ODI encounters.
Where is that 95% win rate, kindly enlighten me. This is the record even when Pak has been poor side on most part if these encounters and you know the overall record.
I am not sure why you must reference records that are downright prehistoric.
you need to limit your horizon to the last 24 months at best.
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This team can beat India,
1. Fakhar
2. Shan/Imam
3. Babar
4. Harris
5. Sarfi
6. Umar Akmal
7. Shadab
8. Hassan Ali
9. Amir
10. Shaheen
11. Husnain
1. Fakhar
2. Shan/Imam
3. Babar
4. Harris
5. Sarfi
6. Umar Akmal
7. Shadab
8. Hassan Ali
9. Amir
10. Shaheen
11. Husnain
Ok so even in the last 24 months
it's been 3-1 in favour of India
that makes it 75-25 which still far from the win percentage of 95-5 that you have predicted.
Yes they are different conditions and India is better in all conditions.Unlike people here who keep refererring to CT 2017 as if it happened yesterday.
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India is a one-man army. Without Kohli it evens out. I was reading his stats on cricinfo, he alone has more centuried than whole Pakistan since 2017 lol.
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Don't underestimate Sharma and Dhawan. They're match-winning players in their own regard. VK is such a good player that these 2 seem nobodies. There is a stats thread started by [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION] there you can see their true statistical impact on Indian domination in ODIs
That said, Amir needs to bowl 3 wicket taking deliveries and Pak must hold their catches
We got it we got it.
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Even India made a blunder in the 2003 WC by opting to bowl after winning the toss. It should have been a win for India in the finals otherwise.Don't underestimate Sharma and Dhawan. They're match-winning players in their own regard. VK is such a good player that these 2 seem nobodies. There is a stats thread started by [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION] there you can see their true statistical impact on Indian domination in ODIs
That said, Amir needs to bowl 3 wicket taking deliveries and Pak must hold their catches
We got it we got it.
So you mean to say Indian bowlers cannot bowl wicket taking deliveries.
Was he your reserve captain?
This was markram's like 5th odi and he was the captain.
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Would like to see Pant's and Shankar's hitting ability today. Hope one of them come in next.
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Who elected him as the captain, the CSA or the BCCI?
No wonder you guys keep speaking of the dropped catches of Sachin in the 2011 WC match. After all the players who dropped those catches were Indians, isn't it?
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Pakistan should boss this match. Anything less would be unacceptable for the most fearsome bowling attack in ODI cricket.
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I'm afraid, Kohli might do a Wasim AKram in the 96' WC. He would definitely be quaking in his boots.
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Yep. After that 2-3 bossing of South Africa, I feel Pakistan are a very strong side and will look stronger in English conditions. They'll boss OZ and England on the way to CWC win as well.
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Can’t believe I am having to say this:
Predicted odds != Empirical observations of your sample space is small.
Were the two countries to play say 30 games in the last 24 months you can then draw conclusions about the predicted odds from empirical observations.
Arrogance SMH
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Match of equal sides , hopefully rain would provide equal points to both
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Dude, the guy was saying India will win 95 out of 100. I was just referring that was not even the odds even in the years when Pak ODI cricket was not in best shape.
Just replying to emotions of some posters with blatent facts.
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yeah but you are comparing a small sample space of empirical observations to predicted outcome.
lets put it this way, neither he has any rationale for making that 95-5 odds prediction, and nor is there any rationale in using a small sample space from mover than 24 months ago to try and test that prediction.
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that is uncalled for.
Wasim missed that game because he genuinely was not fit. there is no pakistani or indian cricketer who would miss out on such a pivotal game because of stage fright. keep in mind, wasim akram was coming into that game with more experience in the world cup than any other indian cricket team member at that time. tendulkar was in his second world cup and he had played a total of 10-12 games to akram's 15.
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Azharuddin had just as much experience as Wasim.
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No way India should boss this match their greatest team in the whole galaxy and their express pace bowling of 150 clicks is so fearsome and omg Bumrah the chucker gotta watch out for him too and that middle order that brings fear to everyone's heart and whose to forget world class all a rounders likes Jadhav. In fact India will win everyone single match by 180 runs and will win the World Cup with ease watch out for the mighty Indian team guys
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azhar was in his second world cup too, and had the same number of games under the belt as sachin. which was less than wasim.
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Lol. Ok.
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Yea, really uncalled for. We were born a year ago and have no idea what was going on back then.
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Well put. This team India is the greatest team to play cricket in the history of cricket, it would be a shame even if they lose single match in WC. No team can seriously think of getting out Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli or score against Bumrah and Yadav. Any team thinking any such thing must be out of there minds.
WC matches are just a formality. Congrats to Indian fans.
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Even with all his quaking, still more than 1 billion people of India combined couldnt produce a bowler half as good as him.
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I am so hyped for this match. I know india has higher ranking right now, but Pakistan vs india rankings dont matter. This is a game within a game, and this is a Naya Pakistan. This new generation of Pakistan players dont care about history, rankings, crowd, and pressure. These boys have nothing to lose. Pakistan will be in England and our bowlers are the best in the world, we will deliver a phainti to India and repay them for past losses.
All thos that are going to match to support our team are so lucky. I am dreaming of day when World Cup match vs india will be in Pakistan, that will be the most amazing experience.
All thos that are going to match to support our team are so lucky. I am dreaming of day when World Cup match vs india will be in Pakistan, that will be the most amazing experience.
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