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The series is far from over.
I suspect this weakest non-sense will quickly stop if Aus wins the next test.
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The series is far from over.
I suspect this weakest non-sense will quickly stop if Aus wins the next test.
The West Indies team that is facing Bangladesh right now is the weakest West Indies team ever. I suggest that you should open a thread about this fact as well.
Who are you kidding?I don't think they're weak. They're only missing out two guys. one is out of form warner and the other one is smith. they can still smash anyteam (except SA) atm in Australia.
Did you even see India's reckless batting? lol KL Rahul, Pant, Freakishly long tail. Atleast Australia has a responsible tail that can bat for significantly long. With India if you get through Pujara, Kohli you can pretty much bowl them out for 70 odd runs. India's batting without Kohli/Pujara is far weaker than Australia without Smith/Warner especially in their own home. Handcomb, Travis head can bat a bit.Who are you kidding?)
This hopeless batting line up would lose series to England, SA, NZ and Pakistan at home, but there is not enjoyment to be had from beating a weak Aus team which is willingly keeping their two best batsmen out.
Just Smith and Warner? That's more than half of their batting there... Australia's only two world class batsmen, with one of them being the best Test batsmen in the world who scores like Bradman at home.
Even WITH Smith and Warner Australia was bowled out for 60 by England and 85 by South Africa.
Take away those two and there just is no batting at all.
Mind you, India has done its job. Pakistan is about to go to South Africa, whose batting is the worst it has been for 60 years, yet do any of us trust Pakistan to do what India is going?
Currently:
Australia batting 3/10 bowling 8/10
South Africa batting 4/10 bowling 7/10
Will still beat all teams at home barring South Africa and India, and of course thrash Pakistan, Sri Lanka, West Indies and Bangladesh. Their batting is weak but the bowling is still top class.
If the Ashes were this year, England would have definitely avoided a 4-0 drubbing, but their bowling is not effective in Australian conditions. They might win a game but not a series.
New Zealand are the flavor of the month at the moment, but let’s not overrate them because they beat a third class team.
They are heavily reliant on 2-3 players and a full-strength Australian bowling attack should be too much for them.
India deserve all the credit and they once again showed why they are the rightful number one team in the world. They have all the basis covered.
People talk a lot about South Africa and England, but they were unlucky to lose two tosses in South Africa and went to England without Bhuvneshwar, who is best swing bowler in Asia and would have made a considerable difference in English conditions which are tailor-made for them.
In the 9 Tests that they have played in South Africa, England and Australia so far, they have only been outclassed in two of those games which clearly shows what a great team they are.
I think the thread is about this Australian team being the worst in their history which is obviously true. Its not about how great India are. You obviously need to compete well in Australia no matter how poor their team is.
I think the thread is about this Australian team being the worst in their history which is obviously true. Its not about how great India are. You obviously need to compete well in Australia no matter how poor their team is.
And this thread is a clever attempt to devalue India’s win by making the Australian team look worse than it actually is.
Well it is certainly a weak team, but their current bowling attack is one of their best ever. In my view, their 2011-2012 team was weaker.
Ponting and Hussey were past their prime and Smith and Warner had not developed into top batsmen. The batting was pretty much Clarke or nothing.
In bowling, they had the likes of Siddle, Hilfenhaus, an inconsistent Johnson, a young Lyon and of course Harris who was great but a walking injury. Starc had not fully developed yet and Cummins got injured after a wonderful debut.
That attack is nowhere near their current attack in terms of quality.
That’s how it’s usually works or do you not understand how teams work?How can any team become worse by missing just two players.
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Lol this is a pretty terrible Aussie team
Worst in our lifetimes atleast
Even the team you mentioned above seems far superior to me. At least in batting they had Clarke, Ponting, Hussey, and Warner.
A bowling lineup of Hilfenhaus, Siddle, Harris, Starc, Lyon is easily comparable to the current lineup of Starc, Lyon, Cummins, Hazlewood.
Also back in those days Ind had their legends of Tendulkar, Laxman, Dravid, Dhoni etc. If those legends couldn’t beat those Aussies it goes to show you how powerful that “weak” Aussie team was.
They are weak for sure, but I think the 2010-2012 team that lost three Tests by an innings to England at home was worse. The 2010-2011 Ashes is easily the lowest point in the modern history of Australian cricket.
Their batting was a one man show and the bowling was also pretty substandard. Things started to pickup for them in late 2013 when Smith morphed into Bradman and the bowling attack matured as well.
I disagree and I think you know that as well.
The 2010-11 English side was among the most complete sides in the past decade and is not comparable to any sides going around today. That English side won everywhere expect UAE pretty much and even there the 3-0 score line did not do justice to how close it was
That argument holds only when Pakistan play Zimbabwe else it's not void argument^^^^ can't you come across less petty than that, It is not India's fault which players play.They can play only the team which is on field.
And this thread is a clever attempt to devalue India’s win by making the Australian team look worse than it actually is.
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Lol this is a pretty terrible Aussie team
Worst in our lifetimes atleast
I disagree and I think you know that as well.
The 2010-11 English side was among the most complete sides in the past decade and is not comparable to any sides going around today. That English side won everywhere expect UAE pretty much and even there the 3-0 score line did not do justice to how close it was
That English team was indeed great and second only to South Africa, but that does not make that Australian team any stronger. They had only batsman at his peak and a bowling unit that was in transition.
Compared to the 0 batsmen at their peak that the current team does? Saying that this Australian team would beat any other Australian teams in recent memory is a stretch.
A pace attack of Harris, Johnson and Siddle is definitely comparable to an attack consisting of Hazlewood, Starc and Cummins. The gulf in the batting however is far too great and not to mention, Clarke was a far better captain than Paine.
India played very well in the first match and are clearly the best test team from Asia currently, but there is no denying that this Australian side has no top-class batsmen. The closest to that designation is Usman Khawaja but he's out of form.
Not only is the current pace attack comfortably better than the days of Siddle, Hilfenhaus and a pre-2014 version of Johnson, the biggest difference is Lyon himself. He has added a new dimension to this team.
South Africa and India are the only two teams right now who have the players to win in Australia.
Although South Africa’s batting is not very strong at the moment, it is still relatively better than Australia and they have the best pace attack in the world to back it up.
India of course is the most complete all-round team in the game today. Other Asian teams and the West Indies can be safely ruled out, but yes one can make a case for England and New Zealand to win in Australia today.
However, I have my doubts if they have the bowlers to be effective in these conditions.
What changes needs to be made to make Australia Great Again ?
Perth is one venue Aussies tend to thrive at even when struggling but at same time it doesnt change fact this Aussie team is very weak.
Unfortunately Indian team can't even win against the worst ever Aussie side. So called #1! Shows how weak they are outside of their home conditions.
Are you expecting India to beat Australia 4-0 in Australia? No Matter how weak their batting is , their bowling can single handedly win games for them . Any other Asian team would have been trailing 2-0 by now with atleast one innings defeat out of the two.
No we r expecting the so called no 1 team to compete against 5th ranked Australian C team.
Even in the first test after going everything in their favor from toss to wicket, India barely managed to beat this Australian C team.
And now in the second test, getting beaten like a nobody by some inexperienced mediocore players. Have u ever seen a no 1 team in the past to lose in such manner against the third string side of a 4/5th ranked team?
I have never seen a terrible batting line up that aus have played at home .there is no single decent batsmen who they can relay on .the openners are trash while middle have only one decent player in khawaja while other are terrible .the captain himself is no way near decent player .