Would our main XI have really fared any better than our B team against Australia?

[Gullycricket]

I mean are our main players apart from Babar and Shaheen any better.Fakhar has been pathetic recently and wouldn't have scored as much as Abid.Imam we saw.Hasan has also been struggling along with Amir.We would still have been scoring 280 odd and losing.We couldnt beat a pathetic SA team who playing rookies so no need to get worked over this result.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

our main 11 at least would have won two matches

 

[Bigbb]

Fakhar would not have fared better than Abid or Shan.
Babar may/may not have played better than Haris. Plus Haris picked a few wickets as well.
Rizwan played miles better than sarfu.

Only players we missed are Shadab and Shaheen. Shadab anyday would have have bowled and batted better than Yasir and the same with Shaheen over any other pacer.
Hasan is crap against decent opposition. So him not really a big miss.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Lol no. 5-0 sweep for Australia either way.

 

[MMHS]

Considering that PAK's chosen first choice XI is

Imam, Fakhar, Babar, MoHa, Malik, Sarfraz, Imad, Shadab, Amir, Hasan, Shaheen - I actually believe that an XI from the chosen players in this series will beat that team comfortably.

Shan, Abid, Haris, Rizwan, Umar, Malik, Imad, Faheem, Amir, Yasir, JK/Hasnain/Shinwari VS that chosen 11 - I am sure where I'll put my money.

 

[Sachin136]

I think it would've done worse. Fakhar wouldn't have scored as much as Abid, and Sarfaraz wouldn't have scored as much as Rizwan.

 

[saeedhk]

The results would have been the same. Because Pakistani problems cannot rotate the strike and lack situational awareness.

 

[Slog]

It would have done worse

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Ridiculous comments.

Pakistan 1st team isn't great by any means - but it is much better than the current squad on display.

They did very well in SA in alien conditions and have found encouraging core in Shaheen, Babar, Hasan and Fakhar to build on.

I reckon they would have won 2 games atleast.

 

[AFM]

Australia aren't playing their first team either.

 

[Josh]

If Hafiz had been playing ..then definitely they would have won 1 or 2 matches. Without Hafiz the first choice XI would have fared the same. 0-5

 

[hadi123]

Honestly guys, think of this question? Who's done well for us this series?
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] made a similar point on another thread and he's spot on.

The players who have done well for us this series are the likes of Abid Ali and Mohammad Rizwan who wouldn't even be playing in a full strength team so we might have done even worse. Our bowling is slightly weaker but let's not pretend the likes of Hasan Ali and Shadab Khan are WC either, both too inconsistent and can be very expensive on a bad day. The only player I think we are really missing is SSA

 

[MT786]

Australia aren't playing their first team either.

But their b team beat a full strength india. So using that isn't it safe to say if india were missing 7 of their players they would've been whitewashed 5-0 too?

 

[Mamoon]

Honestly guys, think of this question? Who's done well for us this series?
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] made a similar point on another thread and he's spot on.

The players who have done well for us this series are the likes of Abid Ali and Mohammad Rizwan who wouldn't even be playing in a full strength team so we might have done even worse. Our bowling is slightly weaker but let's not pretend the likes of Hasan Ali and Shadab Khan are WC either, both too inconsistent and can be very expensive on a bad day. The only player I think we are really missing is SSA

It is the usual denial. Had our first-choice team played, people would be lamenting the fact the underperforming seniors are the reason why we have lost.

Irrespective if which XI we play, we are simply a poor team that can only hope to beat the likes of India, England, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand on their off-days.

Had we rested our main players for the Asia Cup, we would have been told that our first-choice XI would have won the tournament and would have also pounded India along the way.

We just cannot bring ourselves to admit that we are not good enough.

 

[Darkrai]

I don't think our batting would have improved much but our bowling and fielding would have been much better, which would have made the series more competitive.

Having said that, our main team lost to India and Bangladesh, and struggled against Afghanistan.

As if the lack of talented players wasn't enough, the coaching and selection blunders seems to be an even bigger issue at the moment.

 

[Markhor]

Look, Australia came from behind to beat India in their own backyard so Pakistan (being a weaker team than both) were always going to struggle in this series especially with a B team.

The batting has fared better than I expected but the bowling for sure would've been better with Hasan, Shaheen and to a lesser extent Shadab (who I don't rate but is a superior ODI spinner to Yasir).

 

[CricFan2012]

This is a really weird question, you state that only Babar and Shaheen are proven performers, addition of those two would have massively helped, Babar is in the top 10 ODI batsmen of the world and Pakistan's best ever batsman in the making.

Hasan Ali was getting his mojo back in the PSL and possibly would have been a factor here as well.

 

[PakPremi]

Pak main ODI team has done well against New Zealand, with rain robbingthem both times for a series win. So why would they have not done well against Australia B team.
Hassan Ali may occasionally go for some rumlns but he almost always hustle wickets and breaks partnerships. Shadab is a very useful bowler and has more chance taking wickets than Yasir in ODIs, and his batting contributions are very valuable.
S Shah is head and shoulders above our current Pacers and again provides early wickets.
No dispute that Babars contribution with bat are more useful to the team than Harris ATM, as Harris is stalling the inning.
No point bringing in Abid Ali into equation when he was not even.played in first 3 games, Fakhar would have averaged better than Shan's contribution and at a healthy strike rate.
Despite all Rizwan centuries jth3y were not good enough to win games, and his keeping was below standard. We missed Sarfraz captaincy a lot in the series.
So only blind haters would think Pak would have fared same.

 

[Kroll]

You never know, but overall they would be better as that's the whole point of a first team and a B team. I'm sure they would have won at least one match by now.

 

[PakPremi]

"New Zealand and S A "in above post of mine.

 

[Titan24]

Surprised to see some cricketing experts here dont think that couple of batsmen who avg 50+ and couple of pacers who avg under 25 and a spinner avging under 30 (Yasir avgs 45) and a captain who surely has better leadership than current Malik would have made a difference.

I have put forward the stats but hands down to some so called cricket pundits here.

Not saying we would have won but surely if players much better than the ones who played currently wouldnt have made a difference than its complete ignorance.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

No question, lol.

 

[MMHS]

Surprised to see some cricketing experts here dont think that couple of batsmen who avg 50+ and couple of pacers who avg under 25 and a spinner avging under 30 (Yasir avgs 45) and a captain who surely has better leadership than current Malik would have made a difference.

I have put forward the stats but hands down to some so called cricket pundits here.

Not saying we would have won but surely if players much better than the ones who played currently wouldnt have made a difference than its complete ignorance.

I am not sure what stats you have put, but in that FAMOUS top order there is the 3rd one with 55+/80+ stats, who has scored 60 runs in 3 innings at a mighty strike rate of 60. Another bowler who is still averaging 20 in ODI has gone for 1/90 in 2 games.

Coming to other side of the coin, 4 batsmen in this has following stats which has availed PAK to avoid conceding bonus points

Rizwan - 219 runs at 73/95
Abid - 112 runs at 112/94
Haris - 161 runs at 54/77
Umar - 107 at 27/85

And not to mention, Hasan Ali has a stats of 36/5.5 in ODI since January 2018. BUT...... if I take out that FAMOUS ZIM series and one game against Hong Kong (I know, they beat Bangladesh 4 years back in a T20, that too in Bangladesh), that stats will go to 49/5.9 level. And, if I do the same for the other spinner you mentioned here, if I just take out that FAMOUS ZIM series, it'll go to 44/5.7.


I'll be interested to listen about your expert analysis regarding the bold part after I have put forward the stats here.

 

[The_Odd_One]

The only two players Pakistan missed were Hafeez and Shaheen.

Hafeez has been very good since his recent comeback and the only batsman capable to play a match winning innings from Pakistan.

 

[Hasan123]

Australia are also missing players.

This Australian beats our full strength team black and blue on most days.

 

[Bhaijaan]

They would have definitely done better.

Bobby is one of the best in the world.

 

[MMHS]

The only two players Pakistan missed were Hafeez and Shaheen.

Hafeez has been very good since his recent comeback and the only batsman capable to play a match winning innings from Pakistan.

Only player that was missed was Shaheen, and may be Babar, because he could have opened or batted at 3 pushing Hari/Rizwan one slot down. Hafeez has done reasonably well in SAF (& in T20Is), but his absence was well compensated by Rizwan - don't tell me that from No. 4 Hafeez would have out done 73/95 stats for 219 runs. And don't forget, Imam was MoS in SAF ..... The equation shouldn't be done this way - an under strength IND beat PAK's first choice team like minnows in same venue, and their full squad lost a home series from 2-0 up to this same AUS side 3 weeks back.

I gave an explanation long back for another thread, which can be brought here again. To everyone's surprise, I actually rate All Time PAK ODI XII at per with AUS & WIN - the reason being PAK's AT XII has some of the top outstanding individuals in history, who can match anyone, in any XI, in any generation. You can put players like Imran, Wasim, Zaheer, Javed, Waquar, Saq, Qadir, Razzak, Saeed, Inzi, Mazid, MoYo smoothly in any team and can justify that .... but obviously, AUS/WIN will dominate 2nd, 3rd XII and from 4th team, it's not even worth mentioning.

This current PAK generation is suffering exactly from opposite - there is no "outstanding" individual, no player in the class of "irreplaceable". Take out Indian top 4 - Kohli, Sharma & Bumrah, Kuldeep - they'll suffer a nose dive. This is because these 4 are stand out among many average to good players - it doesn't matter if they play Ishant or BK or Shami or Pandeya or Shankar or Jadeja or Chahal and there are many such; but those 4 are absolute stand out among 1.4 billions. This has negatives and positives as well.

Positive is, if your team/generation is composed of top talents, the squad quality is so high that missing few players, even ATGs hardly matters - consider this French Soccer team - take out Pogba, Varane & Mbappe ... they can bring Coman, Osmane Dembele, Rabiot, Langlet, Laporte. AUS won back to back WCs without losing a single game in like 23 in a row, after losing Warne, Gillespee & Lee a week before the start of 2 WCs; Imran won 1992 WC after losing WY & Saeed 2 weeks back ....

Negative side is what we are going through with current PAK team - you don't know who is your match winners, who are your best possible combination, who are your clutch players under pressure. A bunch of average players forming a team that can bash lower ranked teams but can't compete at top level, because players themselves individually are not that good. A full strength PAK team lost to BD in UAE without Shakib & Tamim - and trust me, it wasn't one off ... you can hardly expect to get a team 12/3 and that team missing their top 2 players, still manage to be out of the contest by 75th over. Advantage of such team is you are not dependent of anyone - any player can be replaced ... IND can't replace Kohli, Sharma or Bumrah; Poms can't replace Root or Buttler ... can you say that for Amir, Shadab, Hasan, Babar, Fakhar? NEGATIVE is, team will operate constantly at lower level, which we are experiencing now - any combination is just not good enough.

If Faheem was "rested" from game one, he would have been "another in the list", which should make a perfect executive summery of this thread.

 

[Pak Warrior]

Main team would have won at least 1 if not 2 matches by now. Our Bowling would have been much better, we needed wicket takers badly, batting would have been the same if not a little worse.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Only player that was missed was Shaheen, and may be Babar, because he could have opened or batted at 3 pushing Hari/Rizwan one slot down. Hafeez has done reasonably well in SAF (& in T20Is), but his absence was well compensated by Rizwan - don't tell me that from No. 4 Hafeez would have out done 73/95 stats for 219 runs. And don't forget, Imam was MoS in SAF ..... The equation shouldn't be done this way - an under strength IND beat PAK's first choice team like minnows in same venue, and their full squad lost a home series from 2-0 up to this same AUS side 3 weeks back.

I gave an explanation long back for another thread, which can be brought here again. To everyone's surprise, I actually rate All Time PAK ODI XII at per with AUS & WIN - the reason being PAK's AT XII has some of the top outstanding individuals in history, who can match anyone, in any XI, in any generation. You can put players like Imran, Wasim, Zaheer, Javed, Waquar, Saq, Qadir, Razzak, Saeed, Inzi, Mazid, MoYo smoothly in any team and can justify that .... but obviously, AUS/WIN will dominate 2nd, 3rd XII and from 4th team, it's not even worth mentioning.

This current PAK generation is suffering exactly from opposite - there is no "outstanding" individual, no player in the class of "irreplaceable". Take out Indian top 4 - Kohli, Sharma & Bumrah, Kuldeep - they'll suffer a nose dive. This is because these 4 are stand out among many average to good players - it doesn't matter if they play Ishant or BK or Shami or Pandeya or Shankar or Jadeja or Chahal and there are many such; but those 4 are absolute stand out among 1.4 billions. This has negatives and positives as well.

Positive is, if your team/generation is composed of top talents, the squad quality is so high that missing few players, even ATGs hardly matters - consider this French Soccer team - take out Pogba, Varane & Mbappe ... they can bring Coman, Osmane Dembele, Rabiot, Langlet, Laporte. AUS won back to back WCs without losing a single game in like 23 in a row, after losing Warne, Gillespee & Lee a week before the start of 2 WCs; Imran won 1992 WC after losing WY & Saeed 2 weeks back ....

Negative side is what we are going through with current PAK team - you don't know who is your match winners, who are your best possible combination, who are your clutch players under pressure. A bunch of average players forming a team that can bash lower ranked teams but can't compete at top level, because players themselves individually are not that good. A full strength PAK team lost to BD in UAE without Shakib & Tamim - and trust me, it wasn't one off ... you can hardly expect to get a team 12/3 and that team missing their top 2 players, still manage to be out of the contest by 75th over. Advantage of such team is you are not dependent of anyone - any player can be replaced ... IND can't replace Kohli, Sharma or Bumrah; Poms can't replace Root or Buttler ... can you say that for Amir, Shadab, Hasan, Babar, Fakhar? NEGATIVE is, team will operate constantly at lower level, which we are experiencing now - any combination is just not good enough.

If Faheem was "rested" from game one, he would have been "another in the list", which should make a perfect executive summery of this thread.

I included Hafeez for his ability to play big shots as well as his off spin bowling which I know is not as effective these days but still he could play the container role.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Although Rizzu has done better than Sarfi in batting but we missed Sarfraz the captain. No way we would have been 4-0 against a second string Aus team in UAE. Ppers understimate captaincy big time i have seen this in last 2 years (when they said Malik was taking the shots in CT) and then when they called Malik as 'best captain' after just 1 match vs SA. They think its easy to captain a cricket team especially at National level for a country like Pakistan.

 

[PakLFC]

No! The Aussies would still have walloped us even if the likes of Amir and Babar were playing. Lets stop kidding ourselves by thinking otherwise.

 

[Bigbb]

No! The Aussies would still have walloped us even if the likes of Amir and Babar were playing. Lets stop kidding ourselves by thinking otherwise.

Lol Amir played in the first two ODIs and didn't do jack.

 

[Abdullah]

But their b team beat a full strength india. So using that isn't it safe to say if india were missing 7 of their players they would've been whitewashed 5-0 too?

Haha, no responses to this I see.
We look at a different set of arguments for different teams

 

[Mamoon]

But their b team beat a full strength india. So using that isn't it safe to say if india were missing 7 of their players they would've been whitewashed 5-0 too?

Haha, no responses to this I see.
We look at a different set of arguments for different teams

If you take India's 4-5 best players out of the team, it is perfectly possible that Australia would blank them. However, the point is that India's best players are head and shoulders above our best players, and they have kept India in contention for the top 2 spots in ODIs for a long time now.

On the contrary, our so-called best players are a mediocre bunch who have kept Pakistan hovering around the 5th/6th position in rankings. The gap between our A team and B team is insignificant compared to the game between India's A team and B team.

Take Kohli, Sharma, Bumrah, Kuldeep and Dhawan out of India, and they will regress to the level of a full-strength Pakistan team with Babar, Fakhar, Shaheen, Hasan, Hafeez, Sarfaraz, Amir and Shadab, basically a mid-table team.

On the contrary, if you take the aforementioned players out of the Pakistan team, they will not go from 5th, 6th or 7th to 10th in ranking. The gap between our main team and fringe team is marginal, and that is why Pakistan is a mediocre team.

What is the use of lamenting that we have missed our main players, when the same main players have failed to take Pakistan to the top 3 in rankings and more importantly, have lost 11 out of 15 ODIs against the top teams since the Champions Trophy?

 

[ARK Rafay]

Hafeez, Fakhar, Shaheen and Babar. Without them our team can't compete in WC19

 

[Abdullah]

If you take India's 4-5 best players out of the team, it is perfectly possible that Australia would blank them. However, the point is that India's best players are head and shoulders above our best players, and they have kept India in contention for the top 2 spots in ODIs for a long time now.

On the contrary, our so-called best players are a mediocre bunch who have kept Pakistan hovering around the 5th/6th position in rankings. The gap between our A team and B team is insignificant compared to the game between India's A team and B team.

Take Kohli, Sharma, Bumrah, Kuldeep and Dhawan out of India, and they will regress to the level of a full-strength Pakistan team with Babar, Fakhar, Shaheen, Hasan, Hafeez, Sarfaraz, Amir and Shadab, basically a mid-table team.

On the contrary, if you take the aforementioned players out of the Pakistan team, they will not go from 5th, 6th or 7th to 10th in ranking. The gap between our main team and fringe team is marginal, and that is why Pakistan is a mediocre team.

What is the use of lamenting that we have missed our main players, when the same main players have failed to take Pakistan to the top 3 in rankings and more importantly, have lost 11 out of 15 ODIs against the top teams since the Champions Trophy?

A drop is a drop
India would go from 1-2 to 4-5
We would go from 5 to 7-8

Everybody misses their best players.
Be it Liverpool or be it West ham or be it Southampton

Ridiculous post

 

[Mamoon]

A drop is a drop
India would go from 1-2 to 4-5
We would go from 5 to 7-8

Everybody misses their best players.
Be it Liverpool or be it West ham or be it Southampton

Ridiculous post

Liverpool will struggle more without Salah, Van Dijk, Mane etc. than Southampton would without Danny Ings etc. Top teams almost always struggle more without their best players compared to mediocre teams, simply because the so-called best players of the mediocre teams are not that great to begin with.

Some of our best performing players in this series would not have played had we played our main team, which simply drives home my point. Our fans love their excuses, but we cannot use the absence of our main players as an excuse for this humiliation, when they have led Pakistan to 11 defeats in 15 games against the top sides in the last two years.

 

[PakPremi]

Ridiculous posts . Pak did well last two series with their full teams, despite.losing captain in the last match and rain robbing us of two certain victories. Look at this team being walloped and most likely whitewashed.
India is nothing special either if they lose Bumrah, Kohli and Rohit. They only team that has plenty of match winners is England in terms of batsmen, but they do choke as well.

 

[Abdullah]

Liverpool will struggle more without Salah, Van Dijk, Mane etc. than Southampton would without Danny Ings etc. Top teams almost always struggle more without their best players compared to mediocre teams, simply because the so-called best players of the mediocre teams are not that great to begin with.

Some of our best performing players in this series would not have played had we played our main team, which simply drives home my point. Our fans love their excuses, but we cannot use the absence of our main players as an excuse for this humiliation, when they have led Pakistan to 11 defeats in 15 games against the top sides in the last two years.

Not true again. The lesser teams miss their big players more. How many games has De bruyne played this season?
Nobody who started this series was assured of being in our first eleven except Malik
Imam was borderline if Shan shone and even Imad may miss out if we try and get faheem plus 3 quicks in

That is substantial changes. Not just 4

 

[Mamoon]

Not true again. The lesser teams miss their big players more. How many games has De bruyne played this season?
Nobody who started this series was assured of being in our first eleven except Malik
Imam was borderline if Shan shone and even Imad may miss out if we try and get faheem plus 3 quicks in

That is substantial changes. Not just 4

False equivalency again. If Man City finish outside the top four with De Bruyne playing the full season, they cannot use his absence as an excuse for not doing well.

The lesser teams do not miss their so-called big players more because their big players are not that big to begin with. Besides, Imam was borderline only in the minds of the PPers who don't like him. After his Man of the Series performance in South Africa, Imam ensured that he would be a guaranteed starter for a while.

At this point, his place is even more certain than Fakhar. There is absolutely no chance of Imam not starting the World Cup as our main opener.

The excuse that Pakistan is struggling in this series because we are not playing our main players doesn't work because of their abject performance over the last two years. The main players have lead us to 11 defeats in the last 15 games against the top teams.

 

[Abdullah]

False equivalency again. If Man City finish outside the top four with De Bruyne playing the full season, they cannot use his absence as an excuse for not doing well.

The lesser teams do not miss their so-called big players more because their big players are not that big to begin with. Besides, Imam was borderline only in the minds of the PPers who don't like him. After his Man of the Series performance in South Africa, Imam ensured that he would be a guaranteed starter for a while.

At this point, his place is even more certain than Fakhar. There is absolutely no chance of Imam not starting the World Cup as our main opener.

The excuse that Pakistan is struggling in this series because we are not playing our main players doesn't work because of their abject performance over the last two years. The main players have lead us to 11 defeats in the last 15 games against the top teams.

Recent performances have not been bad at all.
sA series was 50 50 and NZ series before that we were favourites when the rain came.
The other times we got whipped when was our best player Babar was out of form for 2 series

 

[Abdullah]

False equivalency again. If Man City finish outside the top four with De Bruyne playing the full season, they cannot use his absence as an excuse for not doing well.

The lesser teams do not miss their so-called big players more because their big players are not that big to begin with. Besides, Imam was borderline only in the minds of the PPers who don't like him. After his Man of the Series performance in South Africa, Imam ensured that he would be a guaranteed starter for a while.

At this point, his place is even more certain than Fakhar. There is absolutely no chance of Imam not starting the World Cup as our main opener.

The excuse that Pakistan is struggling in this series because we are not playing our main players doesn't work because of their abject performance over the last two years. The main players have lead us to 11 defeats in the last 15 games against the top teams.

I can't agree with u on the missing players bit.
The big teams have a semblance of decent replacements and the remainder of their eleven is strong too.

The lesser teams therefore do miss their bigger players more, as the rest of the eleven can't step up to bridge the gap and their is no remote like for like replacement!!

 

[Titan24]

I am not sure what stats you have put, but in that FAMOUS top order there is the 3rd one with 55+/80+ stats, who has scored 60 runs in 3 innings at a mighty strike rate of 60. Another bowler who is still averaging 20 in ODI has gone for 1/90 in 2 games.

Coming to other side of the coin, 4 batsmen in this has following stats which has availed PAK to avoid conceding bonus points

Rizwan - 219 runs at 73/95
Abid - 112 runs at 112/94
Haris - 161 runs at 54/77
Umar - 107 at 27/85

And not to mention, Hasan Ali has a stats of 36/5.5 in ODI since January 2018. BUT...... if I take out that FAMOUS ZIM series and one game against Hong Kong (I know, they beat Bangladesh 4 years back in a T20, that too in Bangladesh), that stats will go to 49/5.9 level. And, if I do the same for the other spinner you mentioned here, if I just take out that FAMOUS ZIM series, it'll go to 44/5.7.


I'll be interested to listen about your expert analysis regarding the bold part after I have put forward the stats here.

Lol! Its funny how you are showing only selective stats to prove your point.

Ok lets have a look at ICC ODI rankings

Babar is 5th
Fakhar is 8th
and even after a poor year Hassan is still 13th

Shaheen and Shadab are both improving their rankings as well.

And mind you ICC rankings do take into account the opposition as well.

 

[MMHS]

Lol! Its funny how you are showing only selective stats to prove your point.

Ok lets have a look at ICC ODI rankings

Babar is 5th
Fakhar is 8th
and even after a poor year Hassan is still 13th

Shaheen and Shadab are both improving their rankings as well.

And mind you ICC rankings do take into account the opposition as well.

You are missing Hafeez also - 3rd ranked All-rounder in WORLD.

I am not showing selective stats, I was showing exact stats from this series.

 

[Plumb]

Some people want to bring Ind in every discussion. If given chance they l go the Adnan Sami route Pathetic as usual, those people should be watching ipl rather than pak games.

On Topic our A team would give tough competition nonetheless and it ll be 3-2 in favor of pak hands down.

 

[PakLFC]

Lol Amir played in the first two ODIs and didn't do jack.

That's true but most Pak fans still believe he is world class. They think he's as good as Wasim Akram and should be in the starting team no matter what!

 

[Titan24]

You are missing Hafeez also - 3rd ranked All-rounder in WORLD.

I am not showing selective stats, I was showing exact stats from this series.

So obviously Hassan and Shaheen wouldnt have performed better than Abbas and Shadab couldnt have done better than Yasir while Fakahar who scored 3 50s in his last 8 matches against SA and NZ couldnt have done better than Shan while obviously Babar couldnt have done better than Umar Akmal and Malik.

Hands down to your cricketing expertise.

 

[Ab Fan]

Shaheen is a huge miss and to some extent, so is Babar.

 

[MMHS]

So obviously Hassan and Shaheen wouldnt have performed better than Abbas and Shadab couldnt have done better than Yasir while Fakahar who scored 3 50s in his last 8 matches against SA and NZ couldnt have done better than Shan while obviously Babar couldnt have done better than Umar Akmal and Malik.

Hands down to your cricketing expertise.

With all your data point & analysis, the truth was exposed by a tweet by [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] - since January 2018 .... against NZ 1-6, Against AUS 0-4 (I hope they make it 1-4), against IND 0-2, BD 0-1 & SAF 2-3 ...... and each and every game opponents were missing few key players against a first choice PAK team, including a minnow missing their best 2 players. Amir isn't playing in this series doesn't mean that he is rested.

With the best possible XI, yes you should expect a better show by the hosts against an Aussie side missing 5-6 starters and even some back-ups as well, in conditions most adverse to their strength. But how much - may be 1-3 by now. Even then, considering the 4th game was too close after Aussies released the gas and the two guys instrumental in that close game are not PAK starters, might not even make the WC squad.

What you are doing is only exposing PAK's 30-5 T20I run - why & how. Next time, before the start of the series or any 3 Test series, remain a little more humble, it'll help your expertise better. Your team is too classless for any sort of bravado.