Would Pakistan win/draw in Australia if they play 4/5 Test match series?

[hoshiarpurexpress]

I think when playing overseas, it takes some time to get used to the conditions. These days practice matches are very less and not of very high intensity.
Pakistan only play 2 match series in Australia in recent times.
If they get a full 4/5 match series, what are the the chances that they will win or draw some of the test matches.

 

[Slog]

Lol pakistan will be shouting mercy mercy after the 3 games we normally get

 

[Savak]

Nope. Our team gets worse as the tour goes on.

 

[Ab Fan]

Very high chance. Since Pakistan are considered as the greatest cricket nation ever alongside India and South Africa, if they get about 4/5 full test series, they would have basically pummeled Australia 4-0 in their backyard once in every two tour.

One should not forget how high Australians rate Asad Shafiq. He is considered a legend there, alongside the same level to Tendulkar.

Arguably there has never been a batsmen who posessed the feline touch or grace of Asad Shafiq who simply took bating aesthetics and artistry to regions of the divine. Shafiq basically caressed the ball like the touches of a painters brush.

I could still imagine he was so close to breaching the Gabba fortress three years ago but left it for Rishabh Pants so that latter could make a name for himself and transform himself from being the most ridiculed young boy to the most loved.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Agree with [MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION] and [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION]. Last time Pakistan toured down under, Oz batted only once in both of the test matches.

These were the scores:
First test: 580 all out
Second test: 589/3

Things usually go south for Pakistan as the series progresses.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Pakistan's main problem has been getting 20 wickets in Oz. I feel batsmen usually tend to get better with more tests in a series while bowlers get tired and their performances starts to get worse (hypothesis needs testing). So more you play more difficult it is to take those 20 Australian wickets.

Averages of Australian batsmen against Pakistan across last 2 tours:
M Labuschagne: 173.5
DA Warner: 140.83
PSP Handscomb: 114.66
SPD Smith: 80.16
MT Renshaw: 67.75
UT Khawaja: 66.75
JA Burns: 50.5

That's 7 batsmen averaging over 50.

 

[jiduguravindra]

Does pak have fast bowlers who sustain that long. They will end up conceding 500 plus scores easily if they play long.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Pakistan's main problem has been getting 20 wickets in Oz. I feel batsmen usually tend to get better with more tests in a series while bowlers get tired and their performances starts to get worse (hypothesis needs testing). So more you play more difficult it is to take those 20 Australian wickets.

Averages of Australian batsmen against Pakistan across last 2 tours:
M Labuschagne: 173.5
DA Warner: 140.83
PSP Handscomb: 114.66
SPD Smith: 80.16
MT Renshaw: 67.75
UT Khawaja: 66.75
JA Burns: 50.5

That's 7 batsmen averaging over 50.

My point of view with more test matches was that the bowlers start picking up lengths to bowl with more match practice and get better.
With 5 test matches, surely there is a chance of a draw/win somewhere with performances improving over a period of time.

 

[offstump]

Love how the question doesn’t have a lose option to pick from. At this stage Pakistan would get whitewashed and should pray they can avoid an innings loss in each match.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Love how the question doesn’t have a lose option to pick from. At this stage Pakistan would get whitewashed and should pray they can avoid an innings loss in each match.

I am optimist mostly.. so any future touring option to any country, a team should look for win and then draw. Hence the question about getting better with time.

 

[Unleashed]

They'll whitewash Australia, if we go by the experts here i.e BhaagviruBhaag and Junaids.

If we overrated hacks like Pant can destroy Australia and our sixth-seventh choice pace bowlers can take twenty wickets then i can only imagine when Naseem "Joel Garner" Shah will do with them.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Its possible that Pakistan can draw match if it rains for a couple of days. But win no way.

 

[Mesozoic]

No

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

Lose 3 matches by an innings
Lose 1 by 7 wickets or 200+ runs
One will be a normal loss

 

[sshakir411]

Very high chance. Since Pakistan are considered as the greatest cricket nation ever alongside India and South Africa, if they get about 4/5 full test series, they would have basically pummeled Australia 4-0 in their backyard once in every two tour.

One should not forget how high Australians rate Asad Shafiq. He is considered a legend there, alongside the same level to Tendulkar.

Arguably there has never been a batsmen who posessed the feline touch or grace of Asad Shafiq who simply took bating aesthetics and artistry to regions of the divine. Shafiq basically caressed the ball like the touches of a painters brush.

I could still imagine he was so close to breaching the Gabba fortress three years ago but left it for Rishabh Pants so that latter could make a name for himself and transform himself from being the most ridiculed young boy to the most loved.

You take lameness to a whole other level. Standard for Indians to be this lame given the crap you’ve been raised on. Try harder next time because this is really dumb.

 

[UzmanBeast]

What an absurd claim.

Pakistan are lucky to be touring Australia despite being beaten severely, rather I should say, after being pummeled by the Aussies almost every single tour.

The so-called "elaborate" argument that we should play more matches to get used to conditions is just a sad reality that our team doesn't even try to compete in alien conditions, they give up.

India were in the series from the get go, they had balanced sessions with Australia and it looked like they were fighting, whereas Australia dominated us in every single session of the game. Our batsmen are chicken-hearted, our fast bowlers are inexperienced, and we don't have an economical overseas spinner.

Before making such a pointless claim, one should look at past results and the attitude of our team.

You can take my word on it, but Australia will not invite us for red ball cricket until the year 2023. We have been extremely poor in their conditions, and if they do invite us, they'll play their C team and still run away with the series. They will, however, invite us in white-ball cricket where we are more likely to challenge them and even beat them if all things go well.

I rate Pakistan as a white-ball team, we are a very competitive team.

In test cricket outside of home, we are a joke, and some fans need to understand this very soon.

 

[Godhelpma]

Pakistan won’t win a test series in Australia even if they play for infinity and beyond.

 

[Ami]

it will be 4 nil or 5 nil to Australia...

 

[Shafi]

According to our current standard even 1 test is good enough. The more tests/longer we stay the more our players' weakness will be exposed and performance will be worse. Even if we play 30 tests it will 30-0.

 

[DeadBall]

Maybe if our useless first choice squad got injured and the replacements did something worthwhile without fear of repercussions or any mental midgetness under pressure.

 

[Bigboii]

Very high chance. Since Pakistan are considered as the greatest cricket nation ever alongside India and South Africa, if they get about 4/5 full test series, they would have basically pummeled Australia 4-0 in their backyard once in every two tour.

One should not forget how high Australians rate Asad Shafiq. He is considered a legend there, alongside the same level to Tendulkar.

Arguably there has never been a batsmen who posessed the feline touch or grace of Asad Shafiq who simply took bating aesthetics and artistry to regions of the divine. Shafiq basically caressed the ball like the touches of a painters brush.

I could still imagine he was so close to breaching the Gabba fortress three years ago but left it for Rishabh Pants so that latter could make a name for himself and transform himself from being the most ridiculed young boy to the most loved.

I am genuinely curious are you trolling? You don't seem that type to me that's why the question...

 

[par]

According to our current standard even 1 test is good enough. The more tests/longer we stay the more our players' weakness will be exposed and performance will be worse. Even if we play 30 tests it will 30-0.

I don't think so. When you play a 30 test series, there are more chances of rain spoiling a test or two.

 

[Unleashed]

You take lameness to a whole other level. Standard for Indians to be this lame given the crap you’ve been raised on. Try harder next time because this is really dumb.

He's just imitating the posts that are written here usually which means that you should question the level of crap that Pakistanis have been raised on.

 

[PakPremi]

They will not win series or even draw with current lot, but for sure they will win atleast one test and perhaps draw another. The more you play in a country the more familiar you are with conditions and get opportunities to iron out mistakes form the first few games. Even India lost first test badly when many of their players had played in Australia quite a bit, but they improved as the series went on.

 

[PakPremi]

What an absurd claim.

Pakistan are lucky to be touring Australia despite being beaten severely, rather I should say, after being pummeled by the Aussies almost every single tour.

The so-called "elaborate" argument that we should play more matches to get used to conditions is just a sad reality that our team doesn't even try to compete in alien conditions, they give up.

India were in the series from the get go, they had balanced sessions with Australia and it looked like they were fighting, whereas Australia dominated us in every single session of the game. Our batsmen are chicken-hearted, our fast bowlers are inexperienced, and we don't have an economical overseas spinner.

Before making such a pointless claim, one should look at past results and the attitude of our team.

You can take my word on it, but Australia will not invite us for red ball cricket until the year 2023. We have been extremely poor in their conditions, and if they do invite us, they'll play their C team and still run away with the series. They will, however, invite us in white-ball cricket where we are more likely to challenge them and even beat them if all things go well.

I rate Pakistan as a white-ball team, we are a very competitive team.

In test cricket outside of home, we are a joke, and some fans need to understand this very soon.

So are India lucky to be touring England?

 

[sshakir411]

He's just imitating the posts that are written here usually which means that you should question the level of crap that Pakistanis have been raised on.

Pretty poor attempt at being funny. Find me a post that’s similar.

 

[Mamoon]

So are India lucky to be touring England?

There is no comparison between Pakistan in Australia and India in England. No team has been as pathetic in any conditions as Pakistan has been in Australia.

India won a Test series in England in 2007 and over the last two tours, they have won a Test. They also drew one in 2014.

The only time they were truly awful in England was in 2011 where they got whitewashed 4-0.

On the other hand, Pakistan has a 100% losing record in Australia since 1999. Even law of averages and flukes don’t work for Pakistan in Australia.

That is how pathetic we are, and we clearly do not deserve to play there. We cannot even draw a single match, let alone win.

A 100% losing record in a country for 20+ years is beyond embarrassing. Words cannot do justice to this humiliation.

It doesn’t matter how many Tests we play in a series. If we play 10, we will lose 10-0.

Pakistan does not have the talent, skill and mentality to compete in Australia.

Our players are intimidated with the cauldron-like atmosphere and infrastructure of Australian grounds, their poor grasp of English means they cannot sledge or respond to sledging, the batsmen cannot cope with the pace and bounce and the bowlers do not have the skill and fitness to make an impact on those pitches.

The mediocrity of Pakistan cricket comes full circle whenever we tour Australia. We are brutally exposed in each and every department.

Pakistan should first learn to win or even draw a match per series, and then try to make comparisons with India’s performance in England.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Every series is a new series.

Pakistan should have won a test match in 1999, 2004, 2008 in Australia but they choked or were denied by umpires.

 

[hadi123]

We could draw one...If 3 whole days are abandoned to rain. We are MINNOWS when it comes to Test cricket in Australia. In fact even their 2nd XI would probably smash us i.e. the one that lost 2-1 to India in 2018 when Smith and Warner were banned

 

[Thunderbolt14]

The most likely result would be 5-0. However the fact of the matter remains that if we did somehow draw a game, let alone win, it would be an upset. We do not have the capability to compete toe to toe with Australian players.

We do not have the batsmen who can play bounce, and we do not have the bowlers who can bowl accurate lines and lengths. We do not have the intelligence to craft and execute bowling plans, and we do not have the attitude to seal games even when we achieve a slightly favorable position. We don't know how to sledge or take sledges, and we don't know how to handle the Australian media.

Playing in Australia will always, always be a difficult proposition - I don't expect that to change anytime soon, even if we identify a talented crop of young players and develop them properly. However, there is no need for such blatant negativity in this thread - Pakistan is neither as bad as detractors suggest nor is it as good as the trolls think Pakistanis believe (we don't).

I actually don't believe our batting is an issue - someone or the other always steps up to take us to a respectable score but our bowlers rarely take 10 wickets let alone 20. A win is pretty unlikely as a result, anytime in the future, but I do think we can sneak a draw or two if we improve as a unit.

On current form we're looking at a 5-0 whitewash but a 3-0 or 4-0 score is not out of reach - that in itself, however, is an extremely humiliating statement for me to say. Lots of groundwork to be done, we must forget any hopes and dreams and focus for the next 5-10 years on ensuring our domestic cricket pathways become the best in the world. That should be our objective - focusing on U16 and U19 pathways, on school and university cricket, and on the transition from city cricket to second XI cricket to first XI cricket to Shaheens cricket to the national team.

We are righting the course and have transformed the system entirely in the last two years. The standard of cricket has grown, good cricketers are promoted while the failures are relegated or retired, and coaches are being trained en masse under a supervised umbrella that provides quality control and the means to prove your coaching credentials at the appropriate levels before leapfrogging your way up the system and learning on the job at the international level. Fitness has become a priority, selections are given proper justifications, and the most technically correct Pakistani batsman available anywhere in the world who is still of coaching age, Mohammad Yousuf, is looking over our age group cricketers with a close eye.

We must make do with the resources we have available and continue fighting hard in our Pakistan spirit the way we know how to do. The process will take time, but it's one that finally begun in 2019 after 16 years of patience by Pakistan fans.

Do not expect a won or drawn game in Australia anytime soon, but neither should you expect us to get upgraded from a 2 match series to a 5 match series. One day 10-20 years from now, when we do play a 4-5 match series, it will be because we are worth the eyeballs and the time.

 

[PakPremi]

There is no comparison between Pakistan in Australia and India in England. No team has been as pathetic in any conditions as Pakistan has been in Australia.

India won a Test series in England in 2007 and over the last two tours, they have won a Test. They also drew one in 2014.

The only time they were truly awful in England was in 2011 where they got whitewashed 4-0.

On the other hand, Pakistan has a 100% losing record in Australia since 1999. Even law of averages and flukes don’t work for Pakistan in Australia.

That is how pathetic we are, and we clearly do not deserve to play there. We cannot even draw a single match, let alone win.

A 100% losing record in a country for 20+ years is beyond embarrassing. Words cannot do justice to this humiliation.

It doesn’t matter how many Tests we play in a series. If we play 10, we will lose 10-0.

Pakistan does not have the talent, skill and mentality to compete in Australia.

Our players are intimidated with the cauldron-like atmosphere and infrastructure of Australian grounds, their poor grasp of English means they cannot sledge or respond to sledging, the batsmen cannot cope with the pace and bounce and the bowlers do not have the skill and fitness to make an impact on those pitches.

The mediocrity of Pakistan cricket comes full circle whenever we tour Australia. We are brutally exposed in each and every department.

Pakistan should first learn to win or even draw a match per series, and then try to make comparisons with India’s performance in England.

So India have not won a test series in England since 2007, and were whitewashed 4-0, and won just one test after that. That is just as pathetic as Pakistan performance in Australia bar one test in 13 years, and considering this is India strongest era, and Pakistan has been on downward spiral since 1999.

 

[Mamoon]

So India have not won a test series in England since 2007, and were whitewashed 4-0, and won just one test after that. That is just as pathetic as Pakistan performance in Australia bar one test in 13 years, and considering this is India strongest era, and Pakistan has been on downward spiral since 1999.

Pakistan’s unprecedented humiliation in Australia started in 1999. Now let’s compare the performance of Pakistan in Australia with the performance of India in England from 1999 and onwards.

Pakistan in Australia:

1999: 3-0 whitewash

2004: 3-0 whitewash

2010: 3-0 whitewash

2016: 3-0 whitewash

2019: 2-0 whitewash

)

India in England:

2002: series was drawn 1-1

2007: India won 1-0

2011: England whitewashed India 4-0

2014: England won 5 match series 3-1

2018: England won 4-1

Over the last two decades, 2011 was the only series where India played in England like Pakistan plays in Australia every single time.

There is no comparison between the performance of Pakistan in Australia and India in England.

India have been poor in England but words cannot describe how embarrassing Pakistan has been in Australia.

I repeat - no team is as bad in any county as Pakistan is in Australia.

 

[UzmanBeast]

So are India lucky to be touring England?

Like [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] mentioned, Pakistan's record in Australia is about 10x worse than India's record in England.

Have Pakistan won a series in SENA in recent times that teams would even consider having us for more than two tests?

We're lucky that we're not invited for one-off tests, but as usual, we fail to make ends meet because our team is mediocre at best.

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

The only series in my immediate memory that we've remotely competed in Australia was the 2009-2010 tour. The reason we competed was because we had 2 good bowlers bowling at their best. Of course, batting and ahem wicket keeping let us down and we could not win in Sydney.

I absolutely believe we already have the batting to challenge Australia. But we will draw/win the day we zero down and compile a group of bowlers who consistently take 20 wickets at a fair clip with the ball.

 

[Firebat]

Our top order can barely contribute at home, forget getting a result in a long series in Australia.

 

[dildilpak]

Honestly, i dont think we will get invited anytime soon to Australia after that last abysmal tour, especially after Ricky Ponting commented that this was the worst bowling attack ever to tour Australia. Atleast not until our team miraculously changes overnight!

 

[hitthestump]

Every series is a new series.

Pakistan should have won a test match in 1999, 2004, 2008 in Australia but they choked or were denied by umpires.

In all these series Pakistan had at least a couple of brilliant players like Yousuf, Akhtar or Asif who perhaps could have gotten Pakistan over the line with an extraordinary individual performance.

Right now we have no player capable of the above so there'd be no chance. Whatever Babar could do would be nullified by our terrible pace bowling and Yasir's ineffectiveness.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Honestly, i dont think we will get invited anytime soon to Australia after that last abysmal tour, especially after Ricky Ponting commented that this was the worst bowling attack ever to tour Australia. Atleast not until our team miraculously changes overnight!

They are inviting Afghanistan this year. In fact, the one off test was scheduled in 2020 itself but got cancelled due to Covid. Pakistan are still a far better side than Afghanistan.

 

[Swashbuckler]

More than 4/5 test series, Pak should tour Aus regularly. Even 3 test series is fine as long as they tour every 4 years. This gives an opportunity for players to learn from previous tours and apply better. When the gap is long, learnings from previous tours are forgotten, or the players involved in previous series get too old. India faces this same problem in NZ, after 2002 we toured in 2009 (won only because we had many greats), then 2014 for 2 tests and 2020 for just 2 tests.

Pak toured twice since 2016 but what happened before that?
1999-00
2004-05
2009-10
2016-17

How can PCB think of competing by touring in 2016-17 after 7 long years. An entirely new team with very little playing time on those pitches.

I think the problem is also psychological, PCT loses hope very quickly in Australia, gives up easily and allows the home side too much space to bully.

More than batting, it is bowling which lets Pak down. Wrong lengths, inability of spinners to play any meaningful role, always results in Aus posting gigantic totals.

Anyway so many flaws, but PCB should ensure Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen get another shot in Australia in 2 years time, give them the opportunity to correct their wrongs from previous tour. Many other things must be sorted out but don't wait for Babar to become a 32 year old before his next series in Australia.

 

[Saj]

If it was a 4 match series it would be 4-0 to Australia.

If it was a 5 match series it would be 5-0 to Australia.

At best Pakistan may get one draw if it rained for 2 days of the match.

 

[Buffet]

Pakistani batting is not strong enough to force a draw in Aus, but they have scored runs plenty of times. It's the bowling that failed big time in recent times.

Not to forget Pakitan came close to winning few tests in the last 20 years. Winning a test in Aus is not out of question. Someone needs to bowl a good spell and the team has to bat sensibly.


Now drawing a series or winning a series having 4-5 tests will be a lot harder. In fact, It may be easier for Pakistan to get a draw/win a series with 2 tests.

Most posters are too negative. You need 2-3 good pacers. Not these regular talented ones, but simply good ones.

 

[Swashbuckler]

I don't know how Pakistani fans have preserved their sanity after 2010 Sydney, easy win on the platter, followed by one of the worst chokes of all time. From Aus being effectively 50/8 in their 3rd innings (Hussey, Siddle, Bollinger left) to defending 175 runs, cricket can be such a cruel sport. Any day I prefer a hammering over a heartbreak like this.

Who knows a win there could have at least eased the psychological burden for future Pakistani touring squads to Australia.

 

[Buffet]

I don't know how Pakistani fans have preserved their sanity after 2010 Sydney, easy win on the platter, followed by one of the worst chokes of all time. From Aus being effectively 50/8 in their 3rd innings (Hussey, Siddle, Bollinger left) to defending 175 runs, cricket can be such a cruel sport. Any day I prefer a hammering over a heartbreak like this.

Who knows a win there could have at least eased the psychological burden for future Pakistani touring squads to Australia.

Pakistan just needs one of those moments to go right. This talk about 30 losses in 30 tests is coming due to not crossing the final line any time in the last 20 years.

 

[JaDed]

I don't know how Pakistani fans have preserved their sanity after 2010 Sydney, easy win on the platter, followed by one of the worst chokes of all time. From Aus being effectively 50/8 in their 3rd innings (Hussey, Siddle, Bollinger left) to defending 175 runs, cricket can be such a cruel sport. Any day I prefer a hammering over a heartbreak like this.

Who knows a win there could have at least eased the psychological burden for future Pakistani touring squads to Australia.

Similar to how we preserved our sanity after Chennai test, still i see the highlights and my mind goes what iffff

 

[MP2011]

Similar to how we preserved our sanity after Chennai test, still i see the highlights and my mind goes what iffff

Quite a few tests like that in our test history of last 20-odd years!

Barbados '97
Sydney '08
Adelaide '14
Lords '18

 

[MP2011]

Even in Cape Town in '11 we had every chance to win that test and defeat a very strong SA in SA in a test series.

Same goes for a test in SA in '06.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Even in Cape Town in '11 we had every chance to win that test and defeat a very strong SA in SA in a test series.

Same goes for a test in SA in '06.

Pakistan also had a very good chance to beat SA in SA in 2006-07. Sadly they missed out.

 

[Markhor]

I don't know how Pakistani fans have preserved their sanity after 2010 Sydney, easy win on the platter, followed by one of the worst chokes of all time. From Aus being effectively 50/8 in their 3rd innings (Hussey, Siddle, Bollinger left) to defending 175 runs, cricket can be such a cruel sport. Any day I prefer a hammering over a heartbreak like this.

Who knows a win there could have at least eased the psychological burden for future Pakistani touring squads to Australia.

Because Pakistanis have plenty of practice in "sanity preservation" after inexplicable defeats.

After Faisalabad 1997, Hobart 1999, Antigua 2000, Galle 2009, Edgbaston 2016, Melbourne 2016, Barbados 2017, Abu Dhabi 2017, Abu Dhabi 2018 (twice !), Centurion 2018 and Manchester 2020, Sydney 2010 can only hurt so much

 

[MP2011]

Pakistan also had a very good chance to beat SA in SA in 2006-07. Sadly they missed out.

Yeah, I remember Inzi playing a great innings in one of the tests.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

As most posters mentioned it is your bowling which completes goes missing on Aussie shores. Generally a fast bowling heavy team like Pakistan should have good record in Aus but it's the other way around, somehow your quicks have never been able to adjust to the pace and bounce!

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Pakistan’s unprecedented humiliation in Australia started in 1999. Now let’s compare the performance of Pakistan in Australia with the performance of India in England from 1999 and onwards.

Pakistan in Australia:

1999: 3-0 whitewash

2004: 3-0 whitewash

2010: 3-0 whitewash

2016: 3-0 whitewash

2019: 2-0 whitewash

)

India in England:

2002: series was drawn 1-1

2007: India won 1-0

2011: England whitewashed India 4-0

2014: England won 5 match series 3-1

2018: England won 4-1

Over the last two decades, 2011 was the only series where India played in England like Pakistan plays in Australia every single time.

There is no comparison between the performance of Pakistan in Australia and India in England.

India have been poor in England but words cannot describe how embarrassing Pakistan has been in Australia.

I repeat - no team is as bad in any county as Pakistan is in Australia.

Sri Lanka in Australia perhaps? They've lost 13 games.and drawn 1, compared to Pakistan 14 losses.

 

[PakPremi]

Pakistani batting is not strong enough to force a draw in Aus, but they have scored runs plenty of times. It's the bowling that failed big time in recent times.

Not to forget Pakitan came close to winning few tests in the last 20 years. Winning a test in Aus is not out of question. Someone needs to bowl a good spell and the team has to bat sensibly.


Now drawing a series or winning a series having 4-5 tests will be a lot harder. In fact, It may be easier for Pakistan to get a draw/win a series with 2 tests.

Most posters are too negative. You need 2-3 good pacers. Not these regular talented ones, but simply good ones.

Exactly as I said Pak can win a atleast o e test in a 5 test series, and even draw one. Just need to continue bring in good batsmen, but for me we need a world class pace bowler soon.

 

[Markhor]

As most posters mentioned it is your bowling which completes goes missing on Aussie shores. Generally a fast bowling heavy team like Pakistan should have good record in Aus but it's the other way around, somehow your quicks have never been able to adjust to the pace and bounce!

Our seamers are more suited for England where you kiss the surface and can rely on movement in the air or off the seam with the Dukes ball.

In Australia you must hit the pitch hard. These skiddy seamers are useless with the old Kookaburra. And reverse swing doesn't really come into the game with those lush outfields. Their fitness is also exposed on those hard grounds and large outfields, hence:

 

[JaDed]

Quite a few tests like that in our test history of last 20-odd years!

Barbados '97
Sydney '08
Adelaide '14
Lords '18

Barbados one was my first away test viewing as a kid(terrible timing wanted to sleep).. you can imagine the hurt..

Thats why I’m still so chicken hearted in calling out series results in polls, envy the 2000 viewing Indians who mostly got to see glory lol.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Very high chance. Since Pakistan are considered as the greatest cricket nation ever alongside India and South Africa, if they get about 4/5 full test series, they would have basically pummeled Australia 4-0 in their backyard once in every two tour.

One should not forget how high Australians rate Asad Shafiq. He is considered a legend there, alongside the same level to Tendulkar.

Arguably there has never been a batsmen who posessed the feline touch or grace of Asad Shafiq who simply took bating aesthetics and artistry to regions of the divine. Shafiq basically caressed the ball like the touches of a painters brush.

I could still imagine he was so close to breaching the Gabba fortress three years ago but left it for Rishabh Pants so that latter could make a name for himself and transform himself from being the most ridiculed young boy to the most loved.

You’re not funny at all and I suggest you revert back to your previous serious posts because you do an awful job at whatever this is. It was a nice try but it didn’t work

 

[imshally81]

5-0 on the card with lot of injuries..

 

[Swashbuckler]

Similar to how we preserved our sanity after Chennai test, still i see the highlights and my mind goes what iffff

Sure, but we have won a couple of series against Pak after that, sort of nullifies the heartbreak. 2010 SCG loss is part of a painful drought for Pakistan, stretching over 20 years and 14 consecutive losses, including periods where PCT was among the top 3 ranked teams.

 

[Markhor]

Watching back the highlights of India's win for the first time and what stands out is their resiliency under pressure and ability to ride the setbacks.

Any time they're put in a difficult situation - a partnership is produced, Pujara cops some scary blows but continues no matter what, or one of the bowlers really bends their back and makes a breakthrough. They're never beat until they're beat even with 2nd string players. All while the injuries pile up.

Pakistan have gotten into good positions in Australia but as soon as the opposition have a good spell the wheels fall off. It dates as far back as the MCG and SCG Tests of 1972-73 under Intikhab Alam when "Panicstan" was coined. Recent examples include 1999 Hobart, 2010 Sydney, Brisbane 2016 (collapsing with the end in sight) and Melbourne 2016 (when a 5th Day draw seemed certain).

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

All the respected posters are mostly negative about the chances of team Pakistan, barring a few.
My viewpoint is that as you play more in same conditions, some players like Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen will improve. If its a 5 match series, it will not be a 5-0.. There will be a draw/win somewhere.

 

[MP2011]

Barbados one was my first away test viewing as a kid(terrible timing wanted to sleep).. you can imagine the hurt..

Thats why I’m still so chicken hearted in calling out series results in polls, envy the 2000 viewing Indians who mostly got to see glory lol.

I can attest to that feeling. Tests in WI start at around 20:30 hrs IST. At most you could see the first session of the test match with curfew going on at home due to studies and all!

That day I somehow managed to cajole my father to let me see the test match since we were expected to win against WI in WI, with what, only 120 to chase in the 4th innings?

But what followed was unadulterated horror! I (and my father) overestimated our brittle batting lineup and underestimated WI pace battery, led by Ambrose & Bishop. VVS was the only one who reached double figures in our 2nd innings.

I also remember this test for Tendulkar being wrongly given out (yet again) off a no-ball in his '90s.

 

[ex-q-zit]

We could draw one...If 3 whole days are abandoned to rain. We are MINNOWS when it comes to Test cricket in Australia. In fact even their 2nd XI would probably smash us i.e. the one that lost 2-1 to India in 2018 when Smith and Warner were banned

Pray tell me how does losing 2 players become a 2nd XI? Any team which is considered to be in the top 3 should be able to have able replacements for atleast 2 players if not for all 11 players.

 

[hadi123]

Pray tell me how does losing 2 players become a 2nd XI? Any team which is considered to be in the top 3 should be able to have able replacements for atleast 2 players if not for all 11 players.

That team they played was beyond pathetic. Not a single world class batsman.

 

[Hasan123]

We would get beaten black and blue. You are delusional if you think this team would even draw a game in Australia, obviously weather permitting.