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Which player you would like to take from this Indian Batting Pool.

CURRENT BATTING POOL.

V.Kohli
S.Dhawan
R.Sharma
MS.Dhoni
H.Pandya
M.Pandey
A.Rahane
KL Rahul
M.Vijay
C.Pujara
S.Raina
K.Nair
Y.Singh
D.Kartik
Shreyas Iyer
If i am missing some pls help.

UPCOMING BATTING POOL

R.Pant
S.Samson
S.Gill
P.Shaw
Mayank Agrawal
Unmukt Chand
Sarfaraz Khan
Manan Vohra
Deepak Hooda
If i am missing some pls help.
 
Personally no. The reason Pakistan batsman are not good is due to the domestic structure being awful espcially the pitches. The pitches in Pakistan require a batsman to survive rather than learning the craft and establishing yourself. The other issue is mentality, when the going gets tough the tough get going unfortunately this doesn't resonate with Pakistan batsman. They go in there shell and are nowhere to be seen.
 
Instead of all of those glitzy and glamorous batsmen I'd like to have a Dravid and appoint him head of domestic cricket and youth development. That would do more good for Pakistan than any single batsman even if it is Kohli. Remember there will come a time when Kohli will retire and if you do not have a system that churns out Kohli after Kohli you will be back to square one.
 
Yes we all know becasue of no proper domestic structure, bowling friendly pitches are reason behind the issue..


Anyways you just have to pick players you wanna take to your team..
So take it easy and choose Batsmans you like
 
Syed1 said:
Instead of all of those glitzy and glamorous batsmen I'd like to have a Dravid and appoint him head of domestic cricket and youth development. That would do more good for Pakistan than any single batsman even if it is Kohli. Remember there will come a time when Kohli will retire and if you do not have a system that churns out Kohli after Kohli you will be back to square one.
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I think Dravid is grossly being overrated here as a coach. It is the players available . He was an utter failure as captain during WC 2007 , Rajasthan royals etc.
 
Syed1 said:
Instead of all of those glitzy and glamorous batsmen I'd like to have a Dravid and appoint him head of domestic cricket and youth development. That would do more good for Pakistan than any single batsman even if it is Kohli. Remember there will come a time when Kohli will retire and if you do not have a system that churns out Kohli after Kohli you will be back to square one.
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Appreciate you thinking and this is correct approch for the problem but you need to know that alone dravid cant solve this issue. You need to have good governing body, Boards full backing, very good domestic structure so that if he is appointed he can make changes for the good without any intruptions and of course Very good Support Staff with Dravid so that he can guide them and monitor thier activities.
 
WengerOut said:
I think Dravid is grossly being overrated here as a coach. It is the players available . He was an utter failure as captain during WC 2007 , Rajasthan royals etc.
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He won us a Test series in England. It's something only Kapil Dev and Ajit Wadekar have been able to accomplish. Not Gavaskar, not Ganguly, not Dhoni, not anyone else.
 
English August said:
He won us a Test series in England. It's something only Kapil Dev and Ajit Wadekar have been able to accomplish. Not Gavaskar, not Ganguly, not Dhoni, not anyone else.
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India always had the batsmen. Bowlers were the difference then and not any tactical genius from him.
 
LastManstanding said:
Could you cite some examples of his tactical failure as a captain which led to India's ouster from the 2007 world cup?
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He has no tactical input to eventually fail. My intention of raising the WC 2007 was to counter the point that he had only successes and that too by his tactical nous. It was always about the players. WC 2007 was not because of him , it was toxic dressing room due to Greg Chappell. My point is he is not great a coach to be drooling over.
 
I would take Virat, not for his batting ability but for his motivation factor. By watching him, may be the likes of Babar could be inspired and put some effort in the gym and improve as a player.
 
world cup captain said:
I would take Virat, not for his batting ability but for his motivation factor. By watching him, may be the likes of Babar could be inspired and put some effort in the gym and improve as a player.
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Only good thing about him is batting. Rest are absolute garbage.
 
WengerOut said:
He has no tactical input to eventually fail. My intention of raising the WC 2007 was to counter the point that he had only successes and that too by his tactical nous. It was always about the players. WC 2007 was not because of him , it was toxic dressing room due to Greg Chappell. My point is he is not great a coach to be drooling over.
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How insecure a guy has to be to reach to that conclusion?
 
world cup captain said:
I would take Virat, not for his batting ability but for his motivation factor. By watching him, may be the likes of Babar could be inspired and put some effort in the gym and improve as a player.
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You don't need somebody to be in your team to be motivated. Whole bunch of left armer pacers in the world were inspired by Wasim. Fitness is not a secret anymore. Everybody knows what needs to be done. Motivating oneself is personal. Kohli was not the Kohli of today just a few years ago. He was this brash young player that wasn't consistent. He was behind Rohit and Raina in the pecking order. Look at him now
 
Syed1 said:
Instead of all of those glitzy and glamorous batsmen I'd like to have a Dravid and appoint him head of domestic cricket and youth development. That would do more good for Pakistan than any single batsman even if it is Kohli. Remember there will come a time when Kohli will retire and if you do not have a system that churns out Kohli after Kohli you will be back to square one.
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"Even if it is Kohli".

But you yourself do not consider Kohli is even a good batsman and at every given opportunity you do not miss to bash Kohli.

What is this?
 
kuskash said:
"Even if it is Kohli".

But you yourself do not consider Kohli is even a good batsman and at every given opportunity you do not miss to bash Kohli.

What is this?
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You might have confused me with someone else... I'm a fan of Kohli, some times I troll the Indians on here just to rile them up.
 
English August said:
He won us a Test series in England. It's something only Kapil Dev and Ajit Wadekar have been able to accomplish. Not Gavaskar, not Ganguly, not Dhoni, not anyone else.
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Big names can make a big impact with youngsters and juniors, they will be ineffective coaching their peers and fellow junior players.
 
I would trade every single member of the current Pakistan XI for Virat Kohli.

He is a giant of a cricketer - leagues above any batsman Pakistan has ever produced and ever will produce. In addition, he is also a champion competitor. A Package like him is worth 3-4 high quality players, and 7-8 mediocre players.

He will single-handedly make Pakistan a world class Limited Overs outfit, and can carry the likes of Akmal brothers, Tanvir, Anwar Ali, Bhatti and other such mediocre players who are out of the Pakistan team.

We wil obviously struggle in Tests, but I do not care as long as we become top Limited Overs team.
 
Mamoon said:
I would trade every single member of the current Pakistan XI for Virat Kohli.

He is a giant of a cricketer - leagues above any batsman Pakistan has ever produced and ever will produce. In addition, he is also a champion competitor. A Package like him is worth 3-4 high quality players, and 7-8 mediocre players.

He will single-handedly make Pakistan a world class Limited Overs outfit, and can carry the likes of Akmal brothers, Tanvir, Anwar Ali, Bhatti and other such mediocre players who are out of the Pakistan team.

We wil obviously struggle in Tests, but I do not care as long as we become top Limited Overs team.
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Couldnt Agree more..

He sure will change Pakistan limited over Achivements.

That i can gaurantee👍🤘
 
WengerOut said:
Only good thing about him is batting. Rest are absolute garbage.
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rhony said:
You don't need somebody to be in your team to be motivated. Whole bunch of left armer pacers in the world were inspired by Wasim. Fitness is not a secret anymore. Everybody knows what needs to be done. Motivating oneself is personal. Kohli was not the Kohli of today just a few years ago. He was this brash young player that wasn't consistent. He was behind Rohit and Raina in the pecking order. Look at him now
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Virat is probably one of the fittest players is the history of the game and combine that with his performance, now nearly every player you see come up from domestics in India is carrying a six pack because of Virat.

As far as knowing what needs to be done for success, it's true. We all know fitness is mandatory but not necessarily the Pakistani players. Last year, Kami made a comment where he basically said if players back in the day were fit then I am fit too, now please tell me was he fit or not?

Motivating yourself is not completely personal. When you see others do better than you, that gets you motivated and if guys like Babar can see exactly what it is that makes Kohli who he is, it would go heaps for them.
 
I ALWAYS TAKE VIRAT
Virat always likes fast bowlers in his team.if he captains pak team,he will go with 4 fast bowlers and Probably 1 spinner.
Then fast bowlers will go hard against opposing as they know they have backing of their captain.As pak always has good fast bowlers,thier record in LO will certainly improves.Virat as alone can win atleast 3 out 10 matches and with others contribution around him pak will win more matches.
 
Mamoon said:
I would trade every single member of the current Pakistan XI for Virat Kohli.

He is a giant of a cricketer - leagues above any batsman Pakistan has ever produced and ever will produce. In addition, he is also a champion competitor. A Package like him is worth 3-4 high quality players, and 7-8 mediocre players.

He will single-handedly make Pakistan a world class Limited Overs outfit, and can carry the likes of Akmal brothers, Tanvir, Anwar Ali, Bhatti and other such mediocre players who are out of the Pakistan team.

We wil obviously struggle in Tests, but I do not care as long as we become top Limited Overs team.
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That's why India have won all ICC tournaments and overseas test series in Kohli's peak years.
 
Mamoon said:
I would trade every single member of the current Pakistan XI for Virat Kohli.

He is a giant of a cricketer - leagues above any batsman Pakistan has ever produced and ever will produce. In addition, he is also a champion competitor. A Package like him is worth 3-4 high quality players, and 7-8 mediocre players.

He will single-handedly make Pakistan a world class Limited Overs outfit, and can carry the likes of Akmal brothers, Tanvir, Anwar Ali, Bhatti and other such mediocre players who are out of the Pakistan team.

We wil obviously struggle in Tests, but I do not care as long as we become top Limited Overs team.
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While Kohli is a magnificent player, you are doing a great disservice to Sharma and Dhawan. These three guys together carry your team nowadays.

Kohli alone won't make a Pakistan team with those mediocre players a world beater.
 
Mamoon said:
I would trade every single member of the current Pakistan XI for Virat Kohli.

He is a giant of a cricketer - leagues above any batsman Pakistan has ever produced and ever will produce. In addition, he is also a champion competitor. A Package like him is worth 3-4 high quality players, and 7-8 mediocre players.

He will single-handedly make Pakistan a world class Limited Overs outfit, and can carry the likes of Akmal brothers, Tanvir, Anwar Ali, Bhatti and other such mediocre players who are out of the Pakistan team.

We wil obviously struggle in Tests, but I do not care as long as we become top Limited Overs team.
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Bold part should be not said for anyone.
 
Buffet said:
Bold part should be not said for anyone.
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Yup I agree, nothing in certain in sports. 30 years ago if someone had told that West Indies would be struggling to qualify for a cricket world cup no one would have believed and probably would have laughed it off.
 
Usman Chadda said:
While Kohli is a magnificent player, you are doing a great disservice to Sharma and Dhawan. These three guys together carry your team nowadays.

Kohli alone won't make a Pakistan team with those mediocre players a world beater.
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So going by the RED part in your post above ... you think [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is Indian ?
 
Buffet said:
Bold part should be not said for anyone.
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giri26 said:
Yup I agree, nothing in certain in sports. 30 years ago if someone had told that West Indies would be struggling to qualify for a cricket world cup no one would have believed and probably would have laughed it off.
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I get what you guys are saying but history is on [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]s side so far ... Kohli is a better batsman than anyone that played for Pakistan so far. I personally consider Inzi was their best (Overall ) and its staggering that Kohli is just 3500 Runs short tof Inzi's career Intl Run tally which is quite a remarkable achievement in itself. At this rate he will go past Inzi's stats in about 2 yrs time and will do so at a better Avg and Strike rate.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...ing_strike_rate;template=results;type=batting
 
People will laugh at this but if there was one current player id take in the world right now, it would be Shakib Al Hasan
 
Tusker said:
Now that the pedantry is over ( You win BTW) any chance of answering the question I asked ?
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Kholi is a better batsman than Inzi in ODI's. The only blemish on his record is a WC knock that could help his team cross the line and be etched into the history books for time and memorial.
 
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