Yasir Shah: 6 wickets, Pacers (Mohammad Amir, Wahab Riaz, Mohammad Abbas): 4 wickets

[Syed1]

If there was any doubt that Mickey Arthur had one hell of a howler. Successfully managed to run our team into the ground.


Thank you

 

[MenInG]

If there it was obvious that Mickey Arthur had one hell of a howler. Successfully managed to run our team into the ground.

And your assumption is that our spinners are such high quality that they would match Yasir Shah in performance?

 

[Major]

DIfference between the captaincy of Misbah and Sarfraz.

I remember how initially in misbahs captaincy people use to bash misbah for playing 2 spinners.

problem is our cricketers believe in this myth that we are a fast bowling nation, we need to stock up with pacers.

Sarfraz is to be blamed here not mickey.

Waqar never got blamed for team selection, it was the captain

 

[Abdul]

DIfference between the captaincy of Misbah and Sarfraz.

I remember how initially in misbahs captaincy people use to bash misbah for playing 2 spinners.

problem is our cricketers believe in this myth that we are a fast bowling nation, we need to stock up with pacers.

Sarfraz is to be blamed here not mickey.

Waqar never got blamed for team selection, it was the captain

Yeah, these Sarfraz fans are big hypocrites. They were seen bashing Misbah all the time but Mickey is the only one to be blamed now.

 

[Markhor]

DIfference between the captaincy of Misbah and Sarfraz.

I remember how initially in misbahs captaincy people use to bash misbah for playing 2 spinners.

problem is our cricketers believe in this myth that we are a fast bowling nation, we need to stock up with pacers.

Sarfraz is to be blamed here not mickey.

Waqar never got blamed for team selection, it was the captain

That's a good point - Misbah gets blamed for "not staying true to Pakistan's fast bowling heritage" by playing 2 or sometimes 3 spinners.

IT IS THE FRICKIN' UAE - WHY would you play 3 pacers on these dead tracks unless they're Marshall, Holding and Garner ?

Spin is a necessity not a choice. We are bowling Yasir into the ground like this.

 

[Rayyman]

Crazy how biased fans are only supporting their favorites.

Blame is on Mickey and Sarfaz not only one of them.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

It's time for Sarfraz to step up and tell Mickey how it is done in the UAE. This is not SA or ENG but the UAE where you need at the least 2 spinners to survive the test.

Pakistan has literally just gifted the series to Lanka. Unbelievable stuff.

 

[Kroll]

What's even more worrying is, how come we can all see it and not just due to hindsight? But coach and captain cannot. Do they have some secret trick up their sleeve that's yet to be unleashed?

 

[Adil_94]

this 3 pacer strategy in UAE will bowl Yasir into an early retirement. The worst ive seen a Pakistani spinner handled.

 

[Major]

That's a good point - Misbah gets blamed for "not staying true to Pakistan's fast bowling heritage" by playing 2 or sometimes 3 spinners.

IT IS THE FRICKIN' UAE - WHY would you play 3 pacers on these dead tracks unless they're Marshall, Holding and Garner ?

Spin is a necessity not a choice. We are bowling Yasir into the ground like this.

sadly, Inzamam also comes from the same school of thought. Pace bowling nation.

He also use to play 1 spinner on flat tracks. So basically if sarfraz losses series in uae he won't remove him as captain.

funny how it only took 1 damn test series agains the Lankans who got battered by India to show how difficult it is in reality to win in uae

 

[Syed1]

Those trying to shift the blame to Sarfaraz:

"No regrets of not going in with another spinner" : Mickey Arthur

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?265173-quot-No-regrets-of-not-going-in-with-another-spinner-quot-Mickey-Arthur

 

[Slog]

Sarfraz loves operating with spinners

No way this his call

This is down to dictator Mickey

 

[Major]

Those trying to shift the blame to Sarfaraz:

"No regrets of not going in with another spinner" : Mickey Arthur

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?265173-quot-No-regrets-of-not-going-in-with-another-spinner-quot-Mickey-Arthur

they could had sent haris sohail at the presser. the purpose is t defend the team out in the press

 

[MenInG]

stick to the topic

 

[waleed88]

And your assumption is that our spinners are such high quality that they would match Yasir Shah in performance?

Why not on a spinning track? Is it difficult to understand the opposite when pacers are bowling on a green top?

 

[Syed1]

That's a good point - Misbah gets blamed for "not staying true to Pakistan's fast bowling heritage" by playing 2 or sometimes 3 spinners.

IT IS THE FRICKIN' UAE - WHY would you play 3 pacers on these dead tracks unless they're Marshall, Holding and Garner ?

Spin is a necessity not a choice. We are bowling Yasir into the ground like this.

So you are saying it was Sarfaraz's call to go with three pacers even though:

1. Mickey has said in a press conference that he has no regrets with playing with three pacers
2. Sarfaraz is known for favouring spinners
3. As captain of QG Sarfaraz only goes with two pacers and the rest are spinners

 

[another drop catch]

misbah we are missing you even before completion of first series post retirement

 

[Markhor]

So you are saying it was Sarfaraz's call to go with three pacers even though:

1. Mickey has said in a press conference that he has no regrets with playing with three pacers
2. Sarfaraz is known for favouring spinners
3. As captain of QG Sarfaraz only goes with two pacers and the rest are spinners

They're both equally responsible.

BTW you cannot compare tactics in T20s to Tests - in T20s you're actively looking to take pace off the ball so spin is a necessity.

 

[Hasan123]

Playing 1 spinner in this game was a mistake. Arthur should take a lot of blame for this. An experienced international coach should know to go with 2 spinners in Asian conditions. Sarfraz should ensure for our next series in the UAE that we play 2 spinners.

 

[Hasan123]

They're both equally responsible.

BTW you cannot compare tactics in T20s to Tests - in T20s you're actively looking to take pace off the ball so spin is a necessity.

Also most of Sarfraz LO captaincy has been conditions which favour spin anyway. Other than the CT his captaincy has been in the UAE and West Indies. Both Arthur and Sarfraz should take the blame.

 

[ads101]

DIfference between the captaincy of Misbah and Sarfraz.

I remember how initially in misbahs captaincy people use to bash misbah for playing 2 spinners.

problem is our cricketers believe in this myth that we are a fast bowling nation, we need to stock up with pacers.

Sarfraz is to be blamed here not mickey.

Waqar never got blamed for team selection, it was the captain

I'm sure Arthur made the decision to go with three pacers. And both Waqar and Misbah probably wanted two spinners. But had Misbah been captain and Mickey wanted three pacers, Misbah would have stood up to him and demanded the sane decision of two spinners. While Sarfraz I think just let things slide/wasn't sure. Which does put Sarfraz at blame too.

 

[Syed1]

I'm sure Arthur made the decision to go with three pacers. And both Waqar and Misbah probably wanted two spinners. But had Misbah been captain and Mickey wanted three pacers, Misbah would have stood up to him and demanded the sane decision of two spinners. While Sarfraz I think just let things slide/wasn't sure. Which does put Sarfraz at blame too.

Best explanation on the thread.


I nominate you as winner.

 

[maxamax]

And your assumption is that our spinners are such high quality that they would match Yasir Shah in performance?

I would prefer Imad Wasim over Wahab and tamed medium men.

 

[hafizexpress]

And your assumption is that our spinners are such high quality that they would match Yasir Shah in performance?

If another specialist spinner was played Yasir probably wouldn't have all those wickets and some of it would probably have been shared.

 

[Rayyman]

What if Yasir wasn't declared fit?