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India vs Australia Day 2, Warne on air.

The context was:
They were talking about batting during his era vs the current one. Warne was of the view that during his time, there were several countries that had a good/great spinner. He named - Kumble, Saqlain, Vettori, Harbhajan, himself, Murali. So batsmen had to contend with a good spinner if they got through the fast bowlers.

Whereas now, only India and Australia have a good spinner each. Harsha then interjected, Yasir Shah is there. To which Warne was like - yeah, he's a good spinner...he's good in Dubai :ashwin
 
It’s kind of sad. No not because Warne is “jealous”. But because Warne was a genuine well wisher and fan of Yasir whenever he first came on the scene. He even wanted to meet up with him and help him with his weaknesses, and was always full of joy whenever Yasir was taking 5fers. He was supposed to be the prodigal son.

But Yasir has been regressing since 2016, and so after the overseas disappointment Warne realizes he bet on the wrong horse :/
 
Warney mentioned Pakistan's attack of 2 W's, Akhtar, Saqlain and Mushtaq Ahmed a few times in the precious match. Kept saying how the bowling standards were so much better that if you got through Waqar, Wasim and Akhtar then you had Mushtaq and Saqlain to deal with.

He's not salty, says it as it is.
 
Yasir Shah’s bowling average:

89.50 in 5 Tests in Australia
38.06 in 7 Tests in England
84.00 in 2 Tests in New Zealand
123.00 in 2 Tests in South Africa

Absolute garbage bowler outside Asia.
 
Too bad not many here have watched the last couple series.

Yasir has looked in good rhythm and bowled better than his figures have suggested.

Just watch him in the next Asia series, he will take bags of wickets.

Invite Australia over in fact. Oh wait...they’re too scared. Bunch of fake tough guys are those Aussies.
 
Hitman said:
Yea, the greatest spinner to have ever lived and one of the greatest cricketers ever rated constantly over the years is jealous of Yasir Shah :)))
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He was incredibly bitter when Yasir was smashing Cummins, Lyon, etc. The other commentators were rubbing it in to him that his highest score was 99.

You did not watch the match so what can I say?
 
Yasir's wicket taking ability is still good but he leaks a lot of runs even from a leg spinner standard.
 
Ab Fan said:
Yasir's wicket taking ability is still good but he leaks a lot of runs even from a leg spinner standard.
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Junaids said:
Yasir Shah’s bowling average:

89.50 in 5 Tests in Australia
38.06 in 7 Tests in England
84.00 in 2 Tests in New Zealand
123.00 in 2 Tests in South Africa

Absolute garbage bowler outside Asia.
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His wicket-taking ability seems to go missing in the Southern Hemisphere. Yasir Shah’s record after 9 Tests makes Shadab Khan look like Shane Warne.
 
Junaids said:
His wicket-taking ability seems to go missing in the Southern Hemisphere. Yasir Shah’s record after 9 Tests makes Shadab Khan look like Shane Warne.
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Anyanalytical insight why Yaser is not effective in NZ/Aus? He does get turn but somehow looks easy to nudge around for singles. Ashwin has surprised me in this test series. I considered him biggest home track bully i had seen.
 
Cric_lover4487 said:
Anyanalytical insight why Yaser is not effective in NZ/Aus? He does get turn but somehow looks easy to nudge around for singles. Ashwin has surprised me in this test series. I considered him biggest home track bully i had seen.
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1. Lack of overspin.
2. Lack of a googly.
3. On-side fields as if he was in Asia.

There is a reason why a grossly inferior bowler like Shadab has a better Test record in SENA. He has a googly and he gets overspin, even though his accuracy is inferior.
 
Junaids said:
1. Lack of overspin.
2. Lack of a googly.
3. On-side fields as if he was in Asia.

There is a reason why a grossly inferior bowler like Shadab has a better Test record in SENA. He has a googly and he gets overspin, even though his accuracy is inferior.
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If you are actually watching the match, then Yasir has bowled well and his googly has looked excellent. Looks to have worked hard on it recently.

He’s still 34 and the best leg-spinner in Test cricket.
 
Rayyman said:
If you are actually watching the match, then Yasir has bowled well and his googly has looked excellent. Looks to have worked hard on it recently.

He’s still 34 and the best leg-spinner in Test cricket.
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You don’t need a leg-spinner in SENA

Faheem Ashraf has 8 maidens in 19 overs.
Yasir Shah has 3 maidens in 36 overs.

Yasir releases pressure as quickly as the quicks - apart from Naseem - create it.
 
Warne and Pak management know two different Yasir Shahs. :rp
 
What's the record in Dubai Vs outside Dubai?
 
Yasir was overrated by Pakistani fans early in his career. He was never as good as Ashwin but our fans acted as if he is the best Test spinner in the world.

Now when they have finally realized that he is not the pristine spinner they thought he was, they have turned against him like no tomorrow and keep scapegoating him because they cannot accept the reality of our rubbish pace attack.
 
Well to be fair Yasir got an absolute hammering in Australia. Twice. There is no comparison between that and Ashwin's performance in Australia this time around.
 
Nothing wrong in what Warne says... Yasir Shah’s record in Australia/SA proves him right.
 
Junaids said:
Yasir Shah’s bowling average:

89.50 in 5 Tests in Australia
38.06 in 7 Tests in England
84.00 in 2 Tests in New Zealand
123.00 in 2 Tests in South Africa

Absolute garbage bowler outside Asia.
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Excellent analysis...yes he is garbage, only takes tailender wickets to propup his average....need Usman in the team
 
What wrong did Warne say??

He is spot on. Yasir has regressed beyond words and his fall from grace is out there from everyone to see.

Comments like Warne is jealous are hilarious. The best spinner in the history of the world is jealous of an above average talent from Pakistan? Yeah nah.
 
Mushtaq Ahmed is the only leg spinner from Asia to have had great performances in SENA countries and even that was only until 98 or so. Yasir is, by some measures probably the best Pakistani spinner ever considering the pa e attacks that he had to bowl with. Yasir is a failure only if you compare him with warne.
 
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Nikhil_cric said:
Mushtaq Ahmed is the only leg spinner from Asia to have had great performances in SENA countries and even that was only until 98 or so. Yasir is, by some measures probably the best Pakistani spinner ever considering the pa e attacks that he had to bowl with. Yasir is a failure only if you compare him with warne.
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Mustaq Ahmed in his prime few years was an all conditions spinner.

Warne-Murali level stats if I am not wrong.

Outside his peak, he was very poor.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Mustaq Ahmed in his prime few years was an all conditions spinner.

Warne-Murali level stats if I am not wrong.

Outside his peak, he was very poor.
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Yep. He was averaging 26 with the ball and performing everywhere. Was the only real legitimate threat to Warne. But after that he decline so sharply its unbelievable.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Yep. He was averaging 26 with the ball and performing everywhere. Was the only real legitimate threat to Warne. But after that he decline so sharply its unbelievable.
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I think he won matches everywhere for Pak. In Eng, NZ, Aus and SA.
 
Yasir is the best Pakistani bowler post 2000.
Also their best matchwinner.
Deserves some respect.
Pakistan's toothless fast bowling leaves too much for him, leg spinners thrive on pressure created by pacers.
Even in this innings he got 3 including their best bat.

As for Shadab, his bowling stats in Sena are as fake as it gets.
Jadeja's bowling yesterday perfectly resembled Shadabs performance with the ball in SENA
Jadeja ended up with figures of 15-1 yesterday which basically makes his bowling average 15 but anyone who saw the match knew that Jadeja did zilch.
The only wicket he got was when cummins was throwing the kitchen sink.
 
Warne definitely has not been singing Yasirs praise for a long time. Yasir is a UAE and West Indies condition bowler. He struggles badly every where else
 
And Shane called home the best leg spinner at one time. Yasir has been washed up for a while...not sure if anything can bring him back
 
In Asia and depending on conditions, he is okay in England. But we have seen enough evidence that Yasir Shah cannot perform in Australia, South Africa, and New Zealand.
 
Warne is just completely wrong. As a Pakistani fan I am livid he would talk about one of my countrymen in this way.

What he should have actually said is that Yasir Shah is good nowhere.

To people like [MENTION=137148]Rayyman[/MENTION] who say that Yasir has been better than his figures suggest well, I'm sorry but even a total armature would be likely to do better than Yasir's figures and so it is not a high standard.

Yasir bowls 1 or 2 good balls mixed with 4 or 5 rubbish ones. Batsmen are never worked over in the way Warne used to work then over. If a wicket comes, it's usually a surprise because the batsman has either made a mistake or it's been so long since a wicket fell that nobody was expecting one.

Compare this to the like of Nathan Lyon or Ravi Ashwin who are just smarter, more consistent bowlers able to take wickets on any pitch. When Yasir scores his triple century at 4 an over when bowling, Pakistani fans far too easily dismiss it as "not a spinning wicket and so not Yasir's fault". A good bowler adapts to all conditions and I'm afraid that for both Yasir and Abbas, they have failed to adapt no matter how many chances they are given.

Yasir is a failed experiment who's star faded years ago. I just wish Pakistan had tried someone else like Zafar Gohar. Even now they could do so. Or perhaps Pakistan will wait until Zafar reaches his 100th birthday and his best years are behind him, much like how they have treated Fawad Alam.
 
Junaids said:
Yasir Shah’s bowling average:

89.50 in 5 Tests in Australia
38.06 in 7 Tests in England
84.00 in 2 Tests in New Zealand
123.00 in 2 Tests in South Africa

Absolute garbage bowler outside Asia.
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100% garbage that it. Time to invest in Zafar Gohar who is also a decent number 8.
 
gazza619 said:
100% garbage that it. Time to invest in Zafar Gohar who is also a decent number 8.
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Zafar Gohar isn't international quality, he is barely FC. The 2 best spinners in PK FC are Nauman Ali and Kashif, and they aren't exactly international quality either.
 
He is very poor. No beating around the bush he is awful outside of UAE and the fact he is poor in LOIs means overall he is an average bowler at best.
 
Bewal Express said:
Zafar Gohar isn't international quality, he is barely FC. The 2 best spinners in PK FC are Nauman Ali and Kashif, and they aren't exactly international quality either.
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When Yasir debuted in tests, year or two before that I dont remember many analysts saying he was international quality either.
 
Titan24 said:
When Yasir debuted in tests, year or two before that I dont remember many analysts saying he was international quality either.
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I can tell a decent spinner in a few balls,ZG isn't. When he 1st played at the U19 level he looked to go destined to go places but I have seen him since and he is barely FC.
As far Yasir is concerned, outside UAE he has been poor.
 
Bewal Express said:
I can tell a decent spinner in a few balls,ZG isn't. When he 1st played at the U19 level he looked to go destined to go places but I have seen him since and he is barely FC.
As far Yasir is concerned, outside UAE he has been poor.
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His bowling definitely wasn't extraordinary by any means, he averaged 36 with the ball in last season of QAE when he won man of the tournament. However, there are couple of things. Firstly his batting has finally started to develop, he scored 458 runs with 1 100 and couple of 50s in last year QAE. This gives an option for that no 8 spot and his economy was decent enough at 3.22 which was second best in top 5 wicket takers after Sajid Khan. Yasir Shah’s economy was 3.51 which was worst amongst the top 10 wicket takers and Yasir averaged 39 with the ball last year.

In my opinion Zafar has a decent temperament and that was the main thing even in his early days. He was never running through batting lineups against popular belief. He was never setting the domestic circuit on fire either with his bowling. I think if he can bowl good areas and can contribute some runs at no 8, he can be a decent option in SENA. Cant think of many other options.
 
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As Mamoon has rightly pointed out, people need to stop scapegoating Yasir Shah. [MENTION=142432]Titan24[/MENTION] was also correct in saying leggies generally don't perform well in SENA unless they are in the league of Warne, Kumble and etc.

We need to be realistic with our expectations from a leg spinner bowling on day one and two in New Zealand which happens to be one of the graveyards for spin bowlers.

Misbah and co are the ones that need to be held accountable for selecting him instead of a finger spinner.
 
Hows it yasirs fault hes asked to bowl 30 plus overs in an innings on greentops?

Hes just used wrongly Its not his failure but the pacers who cant provide breakthroughs time and time again

Surely the pacers should be winning games abroad

It should never come down to the fact that yasir is used to bowl the most overs in an innings and treated like a workhorse

Are people expecting him to take 5\50 an innings each time he goes out?
 
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jeeteshssaxena said:
Yasir is the best Pakistani bowler post 2000.
Also their best matchwinner.
Deserves some respect.
Pakistan's toothless fast bowling leaves too much for him, leg spinners thrive on pressure created by pacers.
Even in this innings he got 3 including their best bat.

As for Shadab, his bowling stats in Sena are as fake as it gets.
Jadeja's bowling yesterday perfectly resembled Shadabs performance with the ball in SENA
Jadeja ended up with figures of 15-1 yesterday which basically makes his bowling average 15 but anyone who saw the match knew that Jadeja did zilch.
The only wicket he got was when cummins was throwing the kitchen sink.
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Spot on
 
Can anyone explain why yasir is bowling more overs than any pacer in nz on a greentop on days 1 and 2?

Is that his fault too? People are quick to blast him for doing the doggie work bowling long spells on pitches not for him than blame the toothless pace bowlers who should be winning games abroad

There should be no way he is used the way he is abroad carrrying the workload for the pacers failure

Any other spinner in the world wouldve been used selectively for 20-25 in this innings Only pakistan over use their spinner not taking into account the conditions
 
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Yasir Shah and Younis Khan were the king of Dubai . There stays look better for that factor. Even chucker Ajmal was a king of the kings there .
 
moghul said:
Yasir Shah and Younis Khan were the king of Dubai . There stays look better for that factor. Even chucker Ajmal was a king of the kings there .
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Let's not put Younis, a genuine ATG, in the same sentence with Yasir.
 
Yasir Shah is as pathetic as they come.

Was a UAE specialist even at the start.

Now, he's a failure on Asian pitches as well.

YASIR OUT.
 
Junaids said:
Two of them were numbers 9 and 10.
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Yes but you don’t expect a leg spinner to have much impact in the first innings especially in sena. I believe a stellar performance from yasir is around the corner. He’s bowling beautifully right now. After a big lay off he’s still Getting drift and dip and has a decent top spinner/googly that he’s more comfortable with. Like many other leg spinners he needs a good containing attack and a good captain to set the right fields. Most leg spinners mature with age and improve with experience. I’ve been as critical of yasir previously but I honestly think he’s turned a corner.
 
Zaz said:
Hows it yasirs fault hes asked to bowl 30 plus overs in an innings on greentops?

Hes just used wrongly Its not his failure but the pacers who cant provide breakthroughs time and time again

Surely the pacers should be winning games abroad

It should never come down to the fact that yasir is used to bowl the most overs in an innings and treated like a workhorse

Are people expecting him to take 5\50 an innings each time he goes out?
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Simply put and very accurate.

Misbah is absolutely obssesed with Yasir and continues to pick him abroad despite everyone knowing how bad he is outside of Asia.

But when he's the best wicket taking option we have on a greentop despite having 4 seamers :facepalm then what can we do?
 
Its dissapointing that Warne would say this after singing his praises previously, Yasir Shah is a better bowler than what Mushtaq Ahmed was at the same stage of his career...Mushtaq blossomed late on in his career.
 
Yasir Shah career Test bowling average:

In UAE - 116 wickets in 17 matches at an average of 24.56
Outside UAE - 111 wickets in 26 matches at an average of 37.24
 
That’s the truth, Yasir has been garbage outside Asia, but Misbah calls him a match winner lmao just look @ his stats outside Asia , awful awful, a likeable & gutsy cricketer no doubt but scared to drop his speed to 69-70 mph & give it air ,hence the stats in sena
 
Rayyman said:
Too bad not many here have watched the last couple series.

Yasir has looked in good rhythm and bowled better than his figures have suggested.

Just watch him in the next Asia series, he will take bags of wickets.

Invite Australia over in fact. Oh wait...they’re too scared. Bunch of fake tough guys are those Aussies.
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Yasir is garbage overseas but has performed well off late. His bowling against SA will be clinical, and I want the management to create a complete dust bowl and spin SA out of the game.

Australia should tour Pakistan soon so that we can use the same tactic on them.
 
Saj said:
Yasir Shah career Test bowling average:

In UAE - 116 wickets in 17 matches at an average of 24.56
Outside UAE - 111 wickets in 26 matches at an average of 37.24
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Even outside the UAE, we need to remove his stats in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, West Indies
 
topspin said:
As Mamoon has rightly pointed out, people need to stop scapegoating Yasir Shah. [MENTION=142432]Titan24[/MENTION] was also correct in saying leggies generally don't perform well in SENA unless they are in the league of Warne, Kumble and etc.

We need to be realistic with our expectations from a leg spinner bowling on day one and two in New Zealand which happens to be one of the graveyards for spin bowlers.

Misbah and co are the ones that need to be held accountable for selecting him instead of a finger spinner.
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There is no scapegoating, Yasir has enough body of work, experience to now understand what to do in Sena conditions and how to bowl a consistent line, length on day 1. He is also the most experienced bowler in the side. The frustration with him is justified
 
It's like Warne ripped apart his Yasir friendship necklace. I mean look, up until his first test tours of NZ and AUS you couldn't really blame fans for thinking that Yasir was a world-class spinner (did great in 1st and 4th tests in ENG 2016), I was in that bunch as well. But with all these.. hundreds.. Yasir is scoring since then in SENA conditions, what's it going to take for management to realize that he's just not THAT spinner in SENA conditions? Unless he makes NZ dance to his tunes throughout this test series, I'm pretty confident that's not gonna change.
 
Yasir Shah isn't a bad spinner, it's just that he is often tasked to lead the attack due to the ineptitude of the fast bowlers. I don't think any leg-spinner would be suited to that role other than Shane Warne, Bill O'Reilly, or Clarrie Grimmett.

Yasir simply isn't accurate enough to contain runs and squeeze the run-rate, nor does he possess a big-spinning leg-break or googly that will bamboozle the opposition. Calls to drop him are justified, but most of the criticism is hyperbole.
 
Savak said:
There is no scapegoating, Yasir has enough body of work, experience to now understand what to do in Sena conditions and how to bowl a consistent line, length on day 1. He is also the most experienced bowler in the side. The frustration with him is justified
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No it isn't. It doesn't take much to figure out how toothless Yasir is in SENA conditions.

The criticism is being misdirected here. Misbah and the team management are to blame for his inclusion in this series
 
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topspin said:
No it isn't. It doesn't take much to figure out how toothless Yasir is in SENA conditions.

The criticism is being misdirected here. Misbah and the team management are to blame for his inclusion in this series
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It is given that Yasir has been given so many chances. If he was so concerned about being a better bowler rather than be satisfied with his past laurels, being in his comfort zone, he would have worked on a strategy, a few tricks up his sleeve to be more disciplined and have more control on day 1 of a test match.

Even Shane Warne knew he had to bowl a lot of overs for his team and he made sure if the pitch wasn't offering anything, he atleast kept things tight to make things easier for the other bowlers rather than habitually conceding 100 plus runs in an innings with not many wickets to show for it.
 
Last Monetarist said:
Yasir Shah isn't a bad spinner, it's just that he is often tasked to lead the attack due to the ineptitude of the fast bowlers. I don't think any leg-spinner would be suited to that role other than Shane Warne, Bill O'Reilly, or Clarrie Grimmett.

Yasir simply isn't accurate enough to contain runs and squeeze the run-rate, nor does he possess a big-spinning leg-break or googly that will bamboozle the opposition. Calls to drop him are justified, but most of the criticism is hyperbole.
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TBH the pacers have been getting breakthroughs early in the innings only for Yasir to come on later on and start leaking runs and for the pressure to be lifted.
 
Savak said:
It is given that Yasir has been given so many chances. If he was so concerned about being a better bowler rather than be satisfied with his past laurels, being in his comfort zone, he would have worked on a strategy, a few tricks up his sleeve to be more disciplined and have more control on day 1 of a test match.

Even Shane Warne knew he had to bowl a lot of overs for his team and he made sure if the pitch wasn't offering anything, he atleast kept things tight to make things easier for the other bowlers rather than habitually conceding 100 plus runs in an innings with not many wickets to show for it.
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So even though Misbah and Waqar have seen these pathetic bowling displays from Yasir in SENA countless times, they shouldn’t be held accountable for selecting him?

Everyone knows Yasir doesn’t learn from his mistakes and lacks bowling intelligence, so there’s no point trying blaming him when he’s been given so many opportunities.
 
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By the way, this was Yasir's 22nd century on the field, 22 100s given as a bowler! hence enough of singing the shenanigans of a lackluster cold bowler like Yasir!
 
Is he still getting a category A contract thanks to Imran Khan?
 
Yasir has been a really poor bowler outside asia but you have to cut the guy some slack instead of bashing him. He is not better than aswin or lyon but more valuable than any fast bowler we have produced in the last 10 years barring maybe shaheen. It also some of it comes down to support from the pacers. Yasir has to bowl the majority of overs and he get 1/3 rd of the wickets. Ashwin gets 29 % of the teams wickets and lyon 22%. This is also a reason why i rate murlitharan greater than warne as he took nearly 40% of his teams wickets and carried a weak bowling attack.
 
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