Yasir Shah proves once again he is the GOAT spinner in the world today

[shaz619]

Yasir in the most testing of conditions produces one of the most lion hearted efforts in the history of cricket, zero support from his fellow bowlers and conditions completely flat; yet he takes 6 wickets to help his team bowl Lanka out; yes they are still in a strong position but Yasir's effort should not be overlooked.

On the same wicket Ashwin would have taken a couple of wickets for about 300 runs, actually am not sure if he would have been picked at all in these conditions and his fans would then cry about the small sample size in the same situation as the sole spinner with zero support and help from the wicket chances are he would crumble.

Yasir on the other hand is a champion bowler with all of Pakistan's hopes pinned on his impact regardless of the circumstances. Take a bow champ for one hell of an effort !

 

[Proactive_]

Yasir vs Lyon is the spinners' duel of this generation. Rest simply don't compare.

 

[Ted123]

Greatest ever to hold the ball.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

GOAT spinner in the world today doesn't make sense

 

[Syed1]

By the end of his career Yasir will be mentioned alongside Murali and Warne.


Best bowler in the world today.

 

[mummad]

Yasir should thank other bowlers in team for getting regular 5 wickets for himself.He is giving away too many runs to get 6 wickets simply shows how bad other bowlers are.

 

[sachin100]

Haha haha. There is a reason why he has records like 200 runs 3 or 4times against him.

Yes getting 6 wickets for 184 against the atg sl batsmen in u r home is goat level performance.

A goat averaging 30 runs per wicket is something to be proud off

 

[shaz619]

GOAT spinner in the world today doesn't make sense

Too bad you're lyrically out of touch

 

[shaz619]

Yasir vs Lyon is the spinners' duel of this generation. Rest simply don't compare.

Probably a better comparison although Yasir is still the best for me

 

[shaz619]

Yasir should thank other bowlers in team for getting regular 5 wickets for himself.He is giving away too many runs to get 6 wickets simply shows how bad other bowlers are.

What ?

 

[mummad]

What ?

3/120 and 6/184 against this SL batting is average performance.only 5/51 can be called good bowling.

 

[waleed88]

Yes but Pakistani fans will always ogle over Amir's bowling more against India in CT and Asia cup than Yasir Shah's umpteenth test match performance on a spinning track... sad state of affairs in our cricket

 

[waleed88]

Poor guy is so hated on by his own countrymen... its just a tragedy

 

[Abdullah719]

Poor guy is so hated on by his own countrymen... its just a tragedy

What? Who hates Yasir

One of the most likeable Pakistani cricketers, even with the belly and all.

 

[Syed1]

Poor guy is so hated on by his own countrymen... its just a tragedy

Kinda ironic, because you hate on Babar Azam regardless of format but he averages 50 odd at 90 SR in ODIs.... its just a tragedy

 

[Proactive_]

What ?

I'm not surprised that some Indians are not rating Shah's performance here. It's for the same reasons why Kapil Dev is also so underrated in the Indian cricketing circles as well. He was the sole wicket taking bowler for the team for almost the entirety of his career and had the entire responsibility of picking wickets for his team at every juncture of the Test match. Kapil's contribution to the Indian team has been of far greater worth than all the mortal and Godly batsmen that have played for India. But unfortunately people here go gaga over batting records when there have been many great batsmen India has produced with great records rather than recognizing the impact that an oasis in the desert like Kapil Dev had on Indian cricket.

People need to realize that not having bowling support is not some kind of blessing in disguise wherein you have a bigger opportunity of taking wickets. On the contrary, it's a much bigger responsibility where your team's fortunes rest entirely on your shoulders, you got no bowlers at the other end to soften batsmen up, you're most likely returning in your 2nd spell to face well settled batsmen because the other bowlers can't get a single wicket, you're many times bowling spells fruitlessly because the opposition is seeing your off as you're basically the only threat in the bowling attack etc etc etc. In that regard, Shah's bowling performance in this regard was exemplary. The SL score card wouldn't have looked much different from what SA did to Bangladesh today if it weren't for Yasir Shah, and that's a big accomplishment in itself. At least Pakistan are in the game, if it weren't for Yasir getting his wickets, SL would have probably scored in the vicinity of 600 and be looking to face Pak in the 3rd Innings on the 5th day. But sigh, what am I expecting from an audience which obsesses on records.

 

[Mamoon]

He is a good spinner but greatly overhyped by Pakistani fans. He was badly exposed last year and all his major problems (not enough variations, inability to stem the flow of runs when the tide is against him etc.) came to the fore when he was battered at Edgbaston, Old Trafford, MCG and Sydney.

He takes a lot of wickets in this Pakistani lineup but that is not a groundbreaking achievement because he is the only decent wicket-taking option and bowls an insane amount of overs. Put him in the Indian lineup and he will be overshadowed by Jadeja (best Test spinner in the world in my opinion) and Ashwin.

It is not hard to look good in our Test bowling attack. Overall, it is utter rubbish.

 

[sachin100]

I'm not surprised that some Indians are not rating Shah's performance here. It's for the same reasons why Kapil Dev is also so underrated in the Indian cricketing circles as well. He was the sole wicket taking bowler for the team for almost the entirety of his career and had the entire responsibility of picking wickets for his team at every juncture of the Test match. Kapil's contribution to the Indian team has been of far greater worth than all the mortal and Godly batsmen that have played for India. But unfortunately people here go gaga over batting records when there have been many great batsmen India has produced with great records rather than recognizing the impact that an oasis in the desert like Kapil Dev had on Indian cricket.

People need to realize that not having bowling support is not some kind of blessing in disguise wherein you have a bigger opportunity of taking wickets. On the contrary, it's a much bigger responsibility where your team's fortunes rest entirely on your shoulders, you got no bowlers at the other end to soften batsmen up, you're most likely returning in your 2nd spell to face well settled batsmen because the other bowlers can't get a single wicket, you're many times bowling spells fruitlessly because the opposition is seeing your off as you're basically the only threat in the bowling attack etc etc etc. In that regard, Shah's bowling performance in this regard was exemplary. The SL score card wouldn't have looked much different from what SA did to Bangladesh today if it weren't for Yasir Shah, and that's a big accomplishment in itself. At least Pakistan are in the game, if it weren't for Yasir getting his wickets, SL would have probably scored in the vicinity of 600 and be looking to face Pak in the 3rd Innings on the 5th day. But sigh, what am I expecting from an audience which obsesses on records.

Yes they r playing against southafrica isn't it? They r playing against a team lost 9-0 at home without their main batsman.

U r vomiting bile about how a series against sl is a cake walk and how India needs better opponents. Now tell me about the sl team performance in this series?

For india and ashwin wickets against sl does not matter but for yasir shah they r atg level.

U r the biggest hypocrite on planet earth

 

[jnaveen1980]

GOAT = Greatest of the all time lol GOAT today? hehe

 

[ManFan]

He is a good spinner but greatly overhyped by Pakistani fans. He was badly exposed last year and all his major problems (not enough variations, inability to stem the flow of runs when the tide is against him etc.) came to the fore when he was battered at Edgbaston, Old Trafford, MCG and Sydney.

He takes a lot of wickets in this Pakistani lineup but that is not a groundbreaking achievement because he is the only decent wicket-taking option and bowls an insane amount of overs. Put him in the Indian lineup and he will be overshadowed by Jadeja (best Test spinner in the world in my opinion) and Ashwin.

It is not hard to look good in our Test bowling attack. Overall, it is utter rubbish.

The quality of wickets must be taken into account when comparing Yasir and Jadeja. Once again, your posts reek of bias.

 

[ManFan]

Instead of comparing Yasir to other bowlers, appreciate his lion-hearted efforts. Most spinners would be crying to bowl 30+ overs in the first innings yet alone 50+ with a smile. He has broken record after record and is still doing so on unresponsive, flat, and disgusting Test playing wickets.

 

[Proactive_]

Yes they r playing against southafrica isn't it? They r playing against a team lost 9-0 at home without their main batsman.

U r vomiting bile about how a series against sl is a cake walk and how India needs better opponents. Now tell me about the sl team performance in this series?

For india and ashwin wickets against sl does not matter but for yasir shah they r atg level.

U r the biggest hypocrite on planet earth

You want to see Ashwin's figures on a proper flat pitch in India?

See this:

India Vs England 5th Test Chennai.

Ashwin: 1/167 and 0/56

want more?

Same series, 1st Test, Rajkot:

Ashwin: 2/167 and 1/63.

And I'm sure there are many many other examples because I haven't seen those 5/66 and 7/42s in the 1st/2nd Innings on flat tracks either. Ashwin is much much worse on flat tracks than Yasir and always needs at least a bit of assistance to take wickets.

And I never said a Test series vs SL is a cake walk or something, I'm just fed up with the incredulously high number of matches these countries are playing in a short span of time.

 

[htariq25]

He is a good spinner but greatly overhyped by Pakistani fans. He was badly exposed last year and all his major problems (not enough variations, inability to stem the flow of runs when the tide is against him etc.) came to the fore when he was battered at Edgbaston, Old Trafford, MCG and Sydney.

He takes a lot of wickets in this Pakistani lineup but that is not a groundbreaking achievement because he is the only decent wicket-taking option and bowls an insane amount of overs. Put him in the Indian lineup and he will be overshadowed by Jadeja (best Test spinner in the world in my opinion) and Ashwin.

It is not hard to look good in our Test bowling attack. Overall, it is utter rubbish.

Agreed. A very good spinner but GOAT is way over the top.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

He is the best spinner in world today.
I think Mohammad Irfan (legspinner) should partner him in UAE. He will have good support then.

 

[R0H1T]

He is a good spinner but greatly overhyped by Pakistani fans. He was badly exposed last year and all his major problems (not enough variations, inability to stem the flow of runs when the tide is against him etc.) came to the fore when he was battered at Edgbaston, Old Trafford, MCG and Sydney.

He takes a lot of wickets in this Pakistani lineup but that is not a groundbreaking achievement because he is the only decent wicket-taking option and bowls an insane amount of overs. Put him in the Indian lineup and he will be overshadowed by Jadeja (best Test spinner in the world in my opinion) and Ashwin.

It is not hard to look good in our Test bowling attack. Overall, it is utter rubbish.

Look who's back, the one & only

Though tbf to Yasir he was touring away for the first time, even Ashwin struggled massively away. Jadeja however hasn't played regularly in away tests, so can't judge him as yet but he's a better bowler than Ashwin IMO as well. Then you have Kuldeep, who could potentially leave all three n the dust, he's also the youngest by far so has a loot to learn & lots of time to learn.

When we are comparing these spinners to Warne or Murali, you have to remember that back in the day most tests tracks deteriorated even outside Asia, massively at times. These days generally with flatter tracks & T20 containing a goodish batting lineup is hard unless you are nearly as lethal & accurate as Warne, even he had the luxury of Mcgrath at the other end.

So it's not exactly apples to apples, the DRS helps though massively.

 

[jnaveen1980]

He is just an okay spinner. For a leggie he has a terrible record in Australia where even Upul chandana has a decent record. Even in England he has a strike rate of 75. Basically he has to bowl 13 overs in England before getting a wicket. Wrist spinners typically have the advantage on Australian pitches even English pitches. GOAT? Gotta be a joke. On his day Ashwin can be pure magical.

 

[sachin100]

You want to see Ashwin's figures on a proper flat pitch in India?

See this:

India Vs England 5th Test Chennai.

Ashwin: 1/167 and 0/56

want more?

Same series, 1st Test, Rajkot:

Ashwin: 2/167 and 1/63.

And I'm sure there are many many other examples because I haven't seen those 5/66 and 7/42s in the 1st/2nd Innings on flat tracks either. Ashwin is much much worse on flat tracks than Yasir and always needs at least a bit of assistance to take wickets.

And I never said a Test series vs SL is a cake walk or something, I'm just fed up with the incredulously high number of matches these countries are playing in a short span of time.

They have played less number of tests than sl pak played in the last 10 yrs.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So performances againist Sri Lanka suddenly count???I thought performances againist Sri Lanka dont count.

May be they dont count when Kohli scores runs or Ashwin takes wickets.

 

[Mamoon]

The quality of wickets must be taken into account when comparing Yasir and Jadeja. Once again, your posts reek of bias.

He is effective on turning tracks and a liability on pitches that have nothing for spinners. That has also got to do with the fact that he is a leg-spinner and they generally find it hard to control the flow of runs.

The reason why he is taking so many wickets, in the first innings especially, is because he is bowling a lot of overs and others are not threatening at all. It is very simply.

Any decent spinner would be doing the same job in this team and you won't see them crying over complaining over the amount of workload.

You are free to lionize his efforts but the way I see it, he is doing the bare minimum that you would expect any decent spinner to do in his position, i.e. bowling a lot overs and not having to share wickets with the other bowlers.

 

[ManFan]

So it's his fault the other bowlers don't take wickets? How exactly is the UAE in the 1st innings a spinning track?

 

[Mamoon]

Look who's back, the one & only

Though tbf to Yasir he was touring away for the first time, even Ashwin struggled massively away. Jadeja however hasn't played regularly in away tests, so can't judge him as yet but he's a better bowler than Ashwin IMO as well. Then you have Kuldeep, who could potentially leave all three n the dust, he's also the youngest by far so has a loot to learn & lots of time to learn.

When we are comparing these spinners to Warne or Murali, you have to remember that back in the day most tests tracks deteriorated even outside Asia, massively at times. These days generally with flatter tracks & T20 containing a goodish batting lineup is hard unless you are nearly as lethal & accurate as Warne, even he had the luxury of Mcgrath at the other end.

So it's not exactly apples to apples, the DRS helps though massively.

Jadeja is undoubtedly the best Test spinner at the moment. He is like a young Saqlain, there is magic in his bowling that is missing from Yasir and Ashwin's bowling; difficult to explain in words.

I wasn't a fan of him early in his career and thought of him as a bits and pieces all-rounder, but ever since he started focusing on his bowling and become a Test specialist spinner, he has truly become one of the most valuable cricketers in the world.

 

[Mamoon]

So it's his fault the other bowlers don't take wickets? How exactly is the UAE in the 1st innings a spinning track?

No it is not his fault, but is his good fortune. Any decent bowler will take wickets in this team because the other bowlers are not capable at the moment.

I didn't say it was a spinning track; I said that he is taking wickets simply because he is bowling a lot of overs.

Going for over 180 runs for 6 wickets reinforces the point I am making.

 

[htariq25]

Jadeja is undoubtedly the best Test spinner at the moment. He is like a young Saqlain, there is magic in his bowling that is missing from Yasir and Ashwin's bowling; difficult to explain in words.

I wasn't a fan of him early in his career and thought of him as a bits and pieces all-rounder, but ever since he started focusing on his bowling and become a Test specialist spinner, he has truly become one of the most valuable cricketers in the world.

Wait till his next away tour. His "magic" will be in the stands by stokes. He will be bullied in England mark my words.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No it is not his fault, but is his good fortune. Any decent bowler will take wickets in this team because the other bowlers are not capable at the moment.

I didn't say it was a spinning track; I said that he is taking wickets simply because he is bowling a lot of overs.

Going for over 180 runs for 6 wickets reinforces the point I am making.

Yes, the rest of the bowling is insipid and as the only good bowler in the team he is taking the wickets. That reflects in his figures of 6 for 180 odd

 

[jnaveen1980]

Jadeja is undoubtedly the best Test spinner at the moment. He is like a young Saqlain, there is magic in his bowling that is missing from Yasir and Ashwin's bowling; difficult to explain in words.

I wasn't a fan of him early in his career and thought of him as a bits and pieces all-rounder, but ever since he started focusing on his bowling and become a Test specialist spinner, he has truly become one of the most valuable cricketers in the world.

I think Ashwin is the one who has the magic. Jadeja's specaility is trajectory. He doesn't offer many variations. He is more accurate, consistent when it comes to line and length. He doesn't experiment like Ashwin who has 5 different deliveries in addition to conventional leg spin in his armory. Only problem for him is not enough revs and pace which is needed on dead or less helpful pitches.

 

[Mamoon]

I think Ashwin is the one who has the magic. Jadeja's specaility is trajectory. He doesn't offer many variations. He is more accurate, consistent when it comes to line and length. He doesn't experiment like Ashwin who has 5 different deliveries in addition to conventional leg spin in his armory. Only problem for him is not enough revs and pace which is needed on dead or less helpful pitches.

I don't know, if nothing is going my way and I need a wicket, Jadeja will be the first Asian bowler I will turn to.

 

[Mamoon]

Wait till his next away tour. His "magic" will be in the stands by stokes. He will be bullied in England mark my words.

I don't know, he took a 6-fer in South Africa on a green pitch. I won't back Yasir to have an economy rate of less than 5 on a pitch like that.

 

[waleed88]

Kinda ironic, because you hate on Babar Azam regardless of format but he averages 50 odd at 90 SR in ODIs.... its just a tragedy

Yes, in Test Match its a completely different story though, which is the real format as far as I'm concerned.

 

[waleed88]

What? Who hates Yasir

One of the most likeable Pakistani cricketers, even with the belly and all.

Armchair critics on Pakpassion are some to start with, maybe we should have a poll for this

 

[waleed88]

Yes, the rest of the bowling is insipid and as the only good bowler in the team he is taking the wickets. That reflects in his figures of 6 for 180 odd

We will still rate ODI performance over test and make them a criteria for test selection, even if bowlers don't look fit/don't have stats for it, bats don't have attitude/don't have stats to back them

 

[R0H1T]

I think Ashwin is the one who has the magic. Jadeja's specaility is trajectory. He doesn't offer many variations. He is more accurate, consistent when it comes to line and length. He doesn't experiment like Ashwin who has 5 different deliveries in addition to conventional leg spin in his armory. Only problem for him is not enough revs and pace which is needed on dead or less helpful pitches.

It's not just that, his accuracy & these days it's the variations in pace. Accuracy is what got Kumble 600+ wickets & Jadeja has the potential to get 500 of his own. He is also much smarter these days, has evolved more than Ashwin in the last year or so.

That's not accurate, he generally spins the ball more than Jadeja, also bowls it slower btw you can't rev it up & spin it more, you have to give it more flight whilst revving it up, that's why it spins more.

 

[R0H1T]

can't rev it up & spin it more

Meant to say, you can't speed it up & rev it more at the same time.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We will still rate ODI performance over test and make them a criteria for test selection, even if bowlers don't look fit/don't have stats for it, bats don't have attitude/don't have stats to back them

Who do you think deserves a test call up?

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] are you seriously implying you'd take loads of wickets if you kept on bowling on such a wicket as a one man army Welcome back btw

Yasir Shah will end his career as the greatest spinner of all time, not even Warne would be able to take 6 wickets on this pitch and look at you with your OTT criticisms have some shame man, he's the one guy who wins games for Pakistan, he did it in England and pretty much every where else. He was poor in AUS debut tour there but wasn't utilised the best either.

Ashwin and Jadeja would average 600 on this pitch and take about 2 wickets between then its not even a joke, they are lucky they are fed those rank turners.

 

[shaz619]

I don't know, he took a 6-fer in South Africa on a green pitch. I won't back Yasir to have an economy rate of less than 5 on a pitch like that.

Who cares about economy! I want to take wickets to win the game! Yasir more often then not does his bit, his team mates also need to help though.

 

[Abdullah719]

Yes, the rest of the bowling is insipid and as the only good bowler in the team he is taking the wickets. That reflects in his figures of 6 for 180 odd

He picked up 5/51 in the last innings he bowled in.

7/94 two Tests ago.

6/63 in the Test before that.

Obviously it will be harder to pick up wickets on a dead pitch in the first innings, that's just how it is.

 

[waleed88]

Who do you think deserves a test call up?

Certainly not Babar Azam or Mohammad Amir, this series lost puts a big name on our 'so-called' star players... probably the biggest 'stars' of our ODI side

 

[Cric1234]

Yasir is above average but not a great or goat bowler at the moment he did well today considering the conditions and the pitch.
The best spinner in Pakistan is Raza Hasan overall in tests and Limited Overs combined in my opinion.

 

[cricketjoshila]

He picked up 5/51 in the last innings he bowled in.

7/94 two Tests ago.

6/63 in the Test before that.

Obviously it will be harder to pick up wickets on a dead pitch in the first innings, that's just how it is.

Isnt that what i am saying. He is the only good bowler in the team thats why he is taking the wickets rest are just insipid.

 

[shaz619]

I'm not surprised that some Indians are not rating Shah's performance here. It's for the same reasons why Kapil Dev is also so underrated in the Indian cricketing circles as well. He was the sole wicket taking bowler for the team for almost the entirety of his career and had the entire responsibility of picking wickets for his team at every juncture of the Test match. Kapil's contribution to the Indian team has been of far greater worth than all the mortal and Godly batsmen that have played for India. But unfortunately people here go gaga over batting records when there have been many great batsmen India has produced with great records rather than recognizing the impact that an oasis in the desert like Kapil Dev had on Indian cricket.

People need to realize that not having bowling support is not some kind of blessing in disguise wherein you have a bigger opportunity of taking wickets. On the contrary, it's a much bigger responsibility where your team's fortunes rest entirely on your shoulders, you got no bowlers at the other end to soften batsmen up, you're most likely returning in your 2nd spell to face well settled batsmen because the other bowlers can't get a single wicket, you're many times bowling spells fruitlessly because the opposition is seeing your off as you're basically the only threat in the bowling attack etc etc etc. In that regard, Shah's bowling performance in this regard was exemplary. The SL score card wouldn't have looked much different from what SA did to Bangladesh today if it weren't for Yasir Shah, and that's a big accomplishment in itself. At least Pakistan are in the game, if it weren't for Yasir getting his wickets, SL would have probably scored in the vicinity of 600 and be looking to face Pak in the 3rd Innings on the 5th day. But sigh, what am I expecting from an audience which obsesses on records.

Good post, you're the real sensible Indian poster around here. Many of these casual cricket fans have been watching the game on the scorecards and have no idea how tough it has been for the bowlers and especially Yasir Shah but his performance has been outstanding given the circumstances. In the same scenario Ashwin and Jadeja would crumble, they are too use to bowling on rank turners they don't have the toughness or skill to grind it out like Yasir Shah has here.

 

[Abdullah719]

Isnt that what i am saying. He is the only good bowler in the team thats why he is taking the wickets rest are just insipid.

I guess I misinterpreted your post.

Yes, on these type of pitches, it's a one-man show. Needs some support desperately...

 

[cricketjoshila]

I guess I misinterpreted your post.

Yes, on these type of pitches, it's a one-man show. Needs some support desperately...

If you post you will always be misunderstood.


Except in england, rest of your bowling attack is just

 

[rashmin]

Probably a better comparison although Yasir is still the best for me

Best for a person does not mean GOAT, talk about connected with reality....lol

 

[Sadevdesai]

How many overs did he bowl ??? About 56 !!!! Hmmmmm ..... as they say, “ If you throw enough mud on the wall ..... something will stick” .... !!!!

 

[sachin100]

How many overs did he bowl ??? About 56 !!!! Hmmmmm ..... as they say, “ If you throw enough mud on the wall ..... something will stick” .... !!!!

Thats the best analogy and u have described it very aptly that to against a number 7 team fresh from mauling at home

 

[Sachin136]

You want to see Ashwin's figures on a proper flat pitch in India?

See this:

India Vs England 5th Test Chennai.

Ashwin: 1/167 and 0/56

want more?

Same series, 1st Test, Rajkot:

Ashwin: 2/167 and 1/63.

And I'm sure there are many many other examples because I haven't seen those 5/66 and 7/42s in the 1st/2nd Innings on flat tracks either. Ashwin is much much worse on flat tracks than Yasir and always needs at least a bit of assistance to take wickets.

And I never said a Test series vs SL is a cake walk or something, I'm just fed up with the incredulously high number of matches these countries are playing in a short span of time.

Seriously, you're reaching a new low. All the tests in the England and New Zealand series that Ashwin recently played were on very flat pitches. Go look up the stats.

 

[DRsohail]

He is a good spinner but greatly overhyped by Pakistani fans. He was badly exposed last year and all his major problems (not enough variations, inability to stem the flow of runs when the tide is against him etc.) came to the fore when he was battered at Edgbaston, Old Trafford, MCG and Sydney.

He takes a lot of wickets in this Pakistani lineup but that is not a groundbreaking achievement because he is the only decent wicket-taking option and bowls an insane amount of overs. Put him in the Indian lineup and he will be overshadowed by Jadeja (best Test spinner in the world in my opinion) and Ashwin.

It is not hard to look good in our Test bowling attack. Overall, it is utter rubbish.

ur biased continues,,its not easy to bowl 75 overs,,,,and ur complex bout indians is always there,,,and calling jadeja and ashwin ATG,,dont mind but sick of this comparison..yasir is a GOAT spinner and he doesnt need comparison..

 

[sachin100]

Seriously, you're reaching a new low. All the tests in the England and New Zealand series that Ashwin recently played were on very flat pitches. Go look up the stats.

He will change his goal post now that pitches r flat only when india batted.

England scored more than 400 in all tests and lost by innings in last 2 tests.

 

[DRsohail]

indian brothers are not feeling well id dont know why..every cricket experts call him one of the best but i dunno what is wrong..

 

[Mamoon]

ur biased continues,,its not easy to bowl 75 overs,,,,and ur complex bout indians is always there,,,and calling jadeja and ashwin ATG,,dont mind but sick of this comparison..yasir is a GOAT spinner and he doesnt need comparison..

ATG = All-Time Great; GOAT = Greatest Of All Time.

Both terms have no business in this discussion because clearly, neither of these three bowlers are at that level yet, and probably never will be.

Of course it is not easy to bowl 75 overs, but what Yasir did not pull off a superhuman effort. Any decent spinner would have put in a similar performance in such circumstances. Put Ashwin or Jadeja in place of Yasir in this Pakistan lineup and they will look as good.

However, partner Yasir with a genuine wicket-taking spinner and he will not look as good as he looks now. Yasir has never had to share his wickets with anyone since his debut. Zulfiqar Babar didn't take wickets and neither do the pacers.

Obviously it is not an ideal situation for Yasir because he might get injured given the extraordinary workload, but there are pros and cons to everything. The cons are self-explanatory, but pros are that he is taking more wickets than he normally would in a wicket-taking bowling unit.

 

[sachin100]

indian brothers are not feeling well id dont know why..every cricket experts call him one of the best but i dunno what is wrong..

Dr today's spell is not the time to gloat about his goat credentials.

He is playing against a poor team coming from hammering of all time with out their best player and he gets that wickets in 56 overs.

If this performance is atg level then there in nothing to discuss

 

[DRsohail]

Dr today's spell is not the time to gloat about his goat credentials.

He is playing against a poor team coming from hammering of all time with out their best player and he gets that wickets in 56 overs.

If this performance is atg level then there in nothing to discuss

ATG is not made on the basis of one spell but ATG will always do something special and i think it was about special....not the one i would have liked but considering the situation and the other bowlers ,,,,
but again i dont call him ATG on the basis of this spell....i really hate when some of our poster just don,t appreciate when it come to performance..just remove yasir from this attack anf\d srilaanka wuld have scored 800 ;ike SA did i to bangladesh..

 

[DRsohail]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] ok a bit of overdose calling himATG but he has been doing it for a long time these long spell and its not easy...he had to put a great effort due to silly management , we have to appreciate it,,,his today,s efort was one of them,,,,,op should have not brought aswin and jadeja here and so you.

 

[cricketjoshila]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] ok a bit of overdose calling himATG but he has been doing it for a long time these long spell and its not easy...he had to put a great effort due to silly management , we have to appreciate it,,,his today,s efort was one of them,,,,,op should have not brought aswin and jadeja here and so you.

Then he wouldnot have created the thread.

 

[DRsohail]

Then he wouldnot have created the thread.

no he should have,,should have appreciated but some of our posters always bring this indian thing in everything,,how can u compare a leggie with offie and when they have not played a game together or in similar conditions.

 

[cricketjoshila]

no he should have,,should have appreciated but some of our posters always bring this indian thing in everything,,how can u compare a leggie with offie and when they have not played a game together or in similar conditions.

He wouldnot create the thread, if he couldnot drag Ashwin and Jadeja here.

 

[DRsohail]

He wouldnot create the thread, if he couldnot drag Ashwin and Jadeja here.

yes the disease whic h is non curable..

 

[Itachi]

Gotta love sir jadeja. Thread is about yasir and here we are discussing about jadeja way more than him lol.

 

[R0H1T]

Gotta love sir jadeja. Thread is about yasir and here we are discussing about jadeja way more than him lol.

What an idea Sir ji

 

[shaz619]

ATG = All-Time Great; GOAT = Greatest Of All Time.

Both terms have no business in this discussion because clearly, neither of these three bowlers are at that level yet, and probably never will be.

Of course it is not easy to bowl 75 overs, but what Yasir did not pull off a superhuman effort. Any decent spinner would have put in a similar performance in such circumstances. Put Ashwin or Jadeja in place of Yasir in this Pakistan lineup and they will look as good.

However, partner Yasir with a genuine wicket-taking spinner and he will not look as good as he looks now. Yasir has never had to share his wickets with anyone since his debut. Zulfiqar Babar didn't take wickets and neither do the pacers.

Obviously it is not an ideal situation for Yasir because he might get injured given the extraordinary workload, but there are pros and cons to everything. The cons are self-explanatory, but pros are that he is taking more wickets than he normally would in a wicket-taking bowling unit.

GOAT in the world today***

And yes, if Yasir had some adequate support he would have close to 300 wickets by now; unfortunately as a one man army and increased work load things have been tough on these roads but given his exceptional skill he has managed to do quiet well as we've seen today via this lion hearted effort on this graveyard which no other spinner in the galaxy is even REMOTELY capable off right now

 

[The_Odd_One]

Anybody who does not rate Yasir has no understanding of test cricket.

 

[shaz619]

) @ all the Indians.

Jimmies = RUSTLED.

This is what THE GOAT has limited ya"ll to. Greatness always incites haters. But King Shah will continue to thrive beyond rank turners.

 

[shaz619]

Anybody who does not rate Yasir has no understanding of test cricket.

Player A does well across all conditions, bigger match winner and delivers when it matters most

Player B does well on rank turners, delivers when it doesn't matter as much and has fancy looking stats

Indian Logic: Player B is a God, the facts indicate that Player A is inferior because me too stupid to have a bit of perspective

 

[kingusama92]

Yasir is a good Test bowler.

Easily PAK's best.

 

[Ab Fan]

Yasir in the current Pak team is like "Andho me kaana raja".

Either way, struggling to win home series vs the likes of Lanka, Windies and kiwis and moaning out for a player as GOAT is really absurd.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The OP seems to have forgotten Rangana Herath.

 

[htariq25]

I don't know, he took a 6-fer in South Africa on a green pitch. I won't back Yasir to have an economy rate of less than 5 on a pitch like that.

I rate herath more than jadeja. Jadeja has absolutely nothing about him. He's a very orthodox left arm spinner. If you attack him he isn't a problem to face in any conditions. England and Australia have a habit of making spinners world class. However that 6fer certainly was good. Yasir got 10fer at lords tho.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Player A does well across all conditions, bigger match winner and delivers when it matters most

Player B does well on rank turners, delivers when it doesn't matter as much and has fancy looking stats

Indian Logic: Player B is a God, the facts indicate that Player A is inferior because me too stupid to have a bit of perspective

All conditions? He still has poorer stats (both avge and strike rate) in England/OZ than Ashwin. Ashwin hasn't toured there recently. Ashwin picks up gun wickets. 62% of his wickets are either top ord middler order. Yasir shah 54% of such wickets.

 

[rashmin]

Player A does well across all conditions, bigger match winner and delivers when it matters most

Player B does well on rank turners, delivers when it doesn't matter as much and has fancy looking stats

Indian Logic: Player B is a God, the facts indicate that Player A is inferior because me too stupid to have a bit of perspective

Yes bro, you are the only one who is expert in cricket, we all are come to PP by mistake to discuss hockey...

 

[AlizeeFan]

More than anything it shows how poor decision was it to play 3 seamers. Add another decent spinner to the line up and Yasir would have ended with figurs of 3-100 or 4-120 with SL being dismissed around 350-380.

Pakistan is just giving extra runs by playing trundlers who can't buy wickets more than 1-2 wickets for 100 overs.