Yet another British family feared to have gone to Syria

[TSA321]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-33347117

A family of 12 from Luton, including a baby and two grandparents, could have travelled to Syria after going missing, police have said.
They have not been seen since 17 May after visiting their home country of Bangladesh.
It is believed the family stopped in Turkey on their way home before entering the war-torn country.
A statement from relatives in the UK said they were "devastated" and the disappearance was "out of character".
Bedfordshire Police said it had not confirmed whether the family had crossed the border, but inquiries were ongoing. It has not said whether any family member was on any terror lists.

The family is:
Muhammed Abdul Mannan, 75, and his wife Minera Khatun, 53
Their daughter Rajia Khanom, 21, and sons Mohammed Zayd Hussain, 25, Mohammed Toufique Hussain, 19, Mohammed Abil Kashem Saker, 31, and his wife Sheida Khanam, 27
Mohammed Saleh Hussain, 26, and his wife Roshanara Begum, 24, along with three children, aged between one and 11

The BBC understands Muhammed Mannan has diabetes and his wife Minera Khatun has cancer.
The couple live in Luton with other family members.

Mohammed Saker is missing aged 31

Mohammed Toufique Hussain is aged 19

Another family member missing is Mohammed Zayd Hussain
The family was reported missing to police by two sons, understood to be Mr Mannan's from a previous marriage, who live in Luton.
One of the sons declined to talk to the BBC.
Police said the family flew to Bangladesh on 10 April and flew back to Istanbul on 11 May. They were due back at Heathrow three days later but failed to return.
Community leader Ashuk Ahmed said he had known the family for 35 years, with Mr Mannan going to the local mosque a number of times a day.
"Initially they went to Bangladesh and on the way back they stopped at Turkey," he said.
"Many families do - Turkish Airlines offers a break in Turkey either to Bangladesh or on the way back.
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Ashuk Ahmed said he had known the family for 35 years
"The community is extremely worried about the family. There are three generations."
He said no-one knew if they had joined a specific extremist Islamist group in Syria.
However, he said people in the community had told him some women in the family might have been radicalised and took the rest of the family with them to Bangladesh to avoid detection.
Neighbour Syed Hussain said police visited the family house after they went missing and took out paperwork.
He said he heard the family went to Syria and he "felt sorry" for the elderly couple who "probably don't know anything about it".
Bedfordshire Police said a family member had been in touch with relatives in the UK but they did not say where they were.
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Neighbour Syed Hussain said police had visited the family's house
So far 54 other British jihadists are thought to be in Syria or Iraq.
The total includes Luton man Abu Aziz who fled the UK after being convicted of an attack on a member of the public.
Luton mother-of-six Runa Khan was jailed last year for inciting terrorism in Syria. It is not known if the missing family knew Aziz or Khan.
In a statement, Bedfordshire Police said: "Police can confirm they are investigating the disappearance of a missing family of 12 from Luton who failed to return home from a holiday to Bangladesh.
"There is a suggestion that the family may have gone to Syria, however police have so far been unable to corroborate that information.
"Police are continuing with their enquiries and are working with relatives who are still in the UK."
A statement from relatives said: "We are devastated by the disappearance of these 12 and are very concerned for their safety.
"This is completely out of character and we are very worried of the danger they may now be in.
"This just does not make any sense. We can only think they have been tricked into going there, it is no place for elderly or young people.
"We would urge any of them to please make contact with us or the police to let us know they are ok."

 

[Zohaib Shah]

Something is starting to feel fishy about this. Its like as though nearly every event that has to do with Isis, ends this way. There must be some sort of method they are using to brainwash people into doing this. Other wise none of this makes sense.

 

[Markhor]

One person amongst the group has cancer and another has diabetes. This is crazy and doesn't make sense.

 

[the Great Khan]

The fitna of the Dajjal is upon us. i would suggest this ramadhan people read as much Quraan as possible especially Surah kahf. i myself will be doing as much as i can during this ramadhan..ISIS are simply harbringers of this fitna. The prophet PBUH called them the "dogs of hell"..the fitna is very attractive to our Muslim Ummah..seductive almost!

 

[the Great Khan]

I fear for the ummah..May Allah swt protect us during this age!!

 

[Zaz]

Just like one of the posters said This just doesnt make any sense

why would 3 generations of a family including women and a 75yr old be headed to syria?

rogue 25yr olds are understandable but whole families???

doesnt make any sense

 

[PCP_1]

One person amongst the group has cancer and another has diabetes. This is crazy and doesn't make sense.

Maybe thats exactly the reason. Old age and heavy diseases are the perfect combination for religious paranoia.

 

[Lurker_Ind]

Will they be fighting or do back end menial jobs for the real well built Arab fighters?

 

[Fallen King]

The fitna of the Dajjal is upon us. i would suggest this ramadhan people read as much Quraan as possible especially Surah kahf. i myself will be doing as much as i can during this ramadhan..ISIS are simply harbringers of this fitna. The prophet PBUH called them the "dogs of hell"..the fitna is very attractive to our Muslim Ummah..seductive almost!

I am not surprised. Before ISIS became popular, i already called them "khawarij" aka "dogs of hell", in modern world of the modern word "they are terrorists".

When i promoted the truth on social media including one another forum circulating ISIS as khawarij aka terrorists, i met with a lot of insults, was called names, and accused of being collaborator with Israel intel agency by Arab lovers. I knew they [Muslims aka Arab lovers] would easily fall for this kind of trap or would be easily misled to join there. Despite of proofs along with the verified by the authentic hadiths i presented fell on deaf ears, but i must be minority, one of few, who are against ISIS while majority aka Arab lovers might support ISIS secretly. We are hearing the same phenomenon in Canada following the daily news of CBC.

I don't blame people in Europe and North America for being suspicious at us [Muslims] because majority [Muslims] are joining there from North America and Europe never mind all over the world.

Little do they [Muslims aka Arab lovers] know that ISIS/TTP will be fighting alongside with Dajjal [in future] against Imam Mahdi (R.A) and the army of Imam Mahdi (R.A). From my understanding, Dajjal will appear after WW3 that means both ISIS/TTP or just ISIS are here to stay or not till Dajjal appears.

One thing for sure that Imam Mahdi (R.A) is intertwined with Pakistan Army for greater destiny. That is good news considering Pakistan is already fighting TTP whereas Afghanistan is sheltering TTP in accordance to its own intel agency along with alleged foreign elements, eventually the war between Pakistan and foreign elements will lead as per the famously circulated prophesy of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

Disclaimer: My observation can be wrong and may God forgives me if i am wrong, Aameen!

I fear for the ummah..May Allah swt protect us during this age!!

Aameen, Aameen Suma Aameen, Aameen!

 

[the Great Khan]

Agree [MENTION=10992]Fallen King[/MENTION] I've been studying this for a while now. .sheikh Imran husseins videoso have really helped in recent years too. ISIS are an abomination and only the combined Pakistani and turkic people can stop them.

 

[PCP_1]

I don't know which of [MENTION=253]the Great Khan[/MENTION] or [MENTION=10992]Fallen King[/MENTION] is being sarcastic. Whipping good read anyway.

 

[Fallen King]

Agree [MENTION=10992]Fallen King[/MENTION] I've been studying this for a while now. .sheikh Imran husseins videoso have really helped in recent years too. ISIS are an abomination and only the combined Pakistani and turkic people can stop them.

No Turkic and Iranian people would be able to help anyhow. By the time Dajjal appears, Turkey would be already invaded. Iran as in "70 thousand..." goes on, and Saudi Arabia as in "headquarter of...". Hence the hadith greatly emphasizes on the Khorasan.

Let's say for example, if it is indeed Pakistan as prophesied one, then Pakistan will be going to find the ruined Middle East including Turkey. Malhama Al Kubra attests to that.

 

[Fallen King]

In my previous post to complete;
[MENTION=253]the Great Khan[/MENTION]

Regarding the role of Iranian and Turkey, that's when Pakistan gets attacked, and invaded. They will come to the rescue for Pakistan. They will play greater role for Pakistan. Afterward, enter "entirely Middle East in ruins" as attested by Malhama Al Kubra.

 

[the Great Khan]

[MENTION=10992]Fallen King[/MENTION] I think your forgetting the hadith about the Rum. And the reconquest of Constantinople. It will not be a military reconquest but a symbolic awakening. The army of the black flags will facilitate this reawakening. The Malhama has already begun inmho. This should be seen as the preliminary exchanges.

Now my theory is that there will be a reckoning in the middle east. A massive conflagration maybe to stop ISIS. All the nation's in the ME will be affected. The army of the black flags will also be fighting but will win it's battle and then move swiftly to support its allies in the ME.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Just like one of the posters said This just doesnt make any sense

why would 3 generations of a family including women and a 75yr old be headed to syria?

rogue 25yr olds are understandable but whole families???

doesnt make any sense

Why not? It's one family who may believe in a fundamentalist view of Islam. Why would cancer or diabetes be a factor?

 

[Fallen King]

[MENTION=10992]Fallen King[/MENTION] I think your forgetting the hadith about the Rum. And the reconquest of Constantinople. It will not be a military reconquest but a symbolic awakening. The army of the black flags will facilitate this reawakening. The Malhama has already begun inmho. This should be seen as the preliminary exchanges.

Now my theory is that there will be a reckoning in the middle east. A massive conflagration maybe to stop ISIS. All the nation's in the ME will be affected. The army of the black flags will also be fighting but will win it's battle and then move swiftly to support its allies in the ME.

No, i am not. From the rum to Constantinople, present Turkey, are covered extensively in Malhama Al Kubra. Google it. It is fascinating read. Regarding the military reconquest of Constantinople will be aided through the spiritual battle, as in spiritual symbolic awakening as you portray it. That will be interesting to witness.

Until then, the ruins in Middle East and Turkey are waiting to happen. By the time WW3 is over, Arabs will be minority as one of the signs of End Times.

ISIS will be there as it is put there in the Middle East on the purpose to ensure the prophesied one is cut off immediately before it begin. Not only that, ISIS will be fighting alongside with Dajjal, in other words, Dajjal will be joined by majority of Khawarij during the time when Dajjal appears.

There will be bloodiest civil wars in Saudi Arabia. After great struggle followed in Pakistan by bloodiest civil and cleansing process as well as the successful battle against the neighbor, that prophesied army will go to Saudi Arabia to slaughter many Arabs as many as possible.

Keep in mind that those groups of Arabs will oppose Imam Mahdi (R.A) while minority will urge Imam Mahdi (R.A) to take leadership by force just like the leadership was forced on Umar Ibn Al-Khattab (R.A) after the demise of Abu Baker (R.A).

The information i have provided above is just the tip of the iceberg. We will be witnessing lots of endless killings which will involve Pakistan as well.

 

[the Great Khan]

No, i am not. From the rum to Constantinople, present Turkey, are covered extensively in Malhama Al Kubra. Google it. It is fascinating read. Regarding the military reconquest of Constantinople will be aided through the spiritual battle, as in spiritual symbolic awakening as you portray it. That will be interesting to witness.

Until then, the ruins in Middle East and Turkey are waiting to happen. By the time WW3 is over, Arabs will be minority as one of the signs of End Times.

ISIS will be there as it is put there in the Middle East on the purpose to ensure the prophesied one is cut off immediately before it begin. Not only that, ISIS will be fighting alongside with Dajjal, in other words, Dajjal will be joined by majority of Khawarij during the time when Dajjal appears.

There will be bloodiest civil wars in Saudi Arabia. After great struggle followed in Pakistan by bloodiest civil and cleansing process as well as the successful battle against the neighbor, that prophesied army will go to Saudi Arabia to slaughter many Arabs as many as possible.

Keep in mind that those groups of Arabs will oppose Imam Mahdi (R.A) while minority will urge Imam Mahdi (R.A) to take leadership by force just like the leadership was forced on Umar Ibn Al-Khattab (R.A) after the demise of Abu Baker (R.A).

The information i have provided above is just the tip of the iceberg. We will be witnessing lots of endless killings which will involve Pakistan as well.

I'll do some more research on the Malhama as my concentration on recent years has been on the geopolitical impact of modern changes and Islamic eschatology.

I think its very clear we are heading for a big reckoning. The destruction of the arabs, the final battle with the khwarij, the Gog and the Magog destroying themselves, the fire from yemen that will engulf Saudi, the rise of the new ruler of Syria, the rejuvenation of Turkey as a key Muslim power and the eventual joker in the pack Pakistan. I think there is a view that nuclear weapons will be used in this conflaguration but my view is that they wont since conventional weapons have become so powerful that there will not be a need to use nukes. Just look at Syria.

Finally I think we really need to educate our young people about this issue and Islamic Eschatology. Its a key part of our faith and must be studied properly especially as we live in such dangerous times.

 

[Markhor]

A 15 year old girl has been arrested in East London today on suspicion of terrorism related offences. 15 ! Utter madness.

 

[Pure Evil]

I'll do some more research on the Malhama as my concentration on recent years has been on the geopolitical impact of modern changes and Islamic eschatology.

I think its very clear we are heading for a big reckoning. The destruction of the arabs, the final battle with the khwarij, the Gog and the Magog destroying themselves, the fire from yemen that will engulf Saudi, the rise of the new ruler of Syria, the rejuvenation of Turkey as a key Muslim power and the eventual joker in the pack Pakistan. I think there is a view that nuclear weapons will be used in this conflaguration but my view is that they wont since conventional weapons have become so powerful that there will not be a need to use nukes. Just look at Syria.

Finally I think we really need to educate our young people about this issue and Islamic Eschatology. Its a key part of our faith and must be studied properly especially as we live in such dangerous times.

As a non-believer, I find this conversation intriguing. Have there been prophecies made as part of the Hadith? Have some of them come true? Any links I can read on them?

 

[TSA321]

A family of 12 from Luton who went missing on a trip to Bangladesh have contacted UK relatives saying they are in Syria, sources have told the BBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-33363861

 

[Fallen King]

I'll do some more research on the Malhama as my concentration on recent years has been on the geopolitical impact of modern changes and Islamic eschatology.

I think its very clear we are heading for a big reckoning. The destruction of the arabs, the final battle with the khwarij, the Gog and the Magog destroying themselves, the fire from yemen that will engulf Saudi, the rise of the new ruler of Syria, the rejuvenation of Turkey as a key Muslim power and the eventual joker in the pack Pakistan. I think there is a view that nuclear weapons will be used in this conflaguration but my view is that they wont since conventional weapons have become so powerful that there will not be a need to use nukes. Just look at Syria.

Finally I think we really need to educate our young people about this issue and Islamic Eschatology. Its a key part of our faith and must be studied properly especially as we live in such dangerous times.

I have been studying on prophesies in many hadiths including non-hadiths as well as non-Islamic prophesies for more for than 3 years, and i have learned enough to know that it is depressing to learn unforeseen future that might not be pretty for the worlds let alone Muslim worlds.

Bold: Good luck with that. I have tried that for more than 3 years as i feel that hiding knowledge from the world is sin as the knowledge is meant to distribute. Remember, at first you will be mocked, ridiculed, and endless poor treatments on social media. After that, you get used to it and will keep doing it not fearing what the world thinks of you.

May God gives you strength to bear the treatments you are about to experience for noble cause, Aameen!

 

[Fallen King]

Edit:

I have been studying on prophesies in many hadiths including non-hadiths as well as non-Islamic prophesies for more for than 3 years, and i have learned enough to know that it is depressing to learn unforeseen future that might not be pretty for the worlds let alone Muslim worlds.

Bold: Good luck with that. I have tried that for more than 3 years as i feel that hiding knowledge from the world is sin as the knowledge is meant to distribute. Remember, at first you will be mocked, ridiculed, and endless poor treatments on social media. After that, you get used to it and will keep doing it not caring what the world thinks of you.

May God gives you strength to bear the treatments you are about to experience for noble cause, Aameen!

 

[Justcrazy]

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Keep in mind that those groups of Arabs will oppose Imam Mahdi (R.A) while minority will urge Imam Mahdi (R.A) to take leadership by force just like the leadership was forced on Umar Ibn Al-Khattab (R.A) after the demise of Abu Baker (R.A).

umar ra was nominated by Abu Bakr ra.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Good riddance - the less ISIS sympathisers in Britain the better.

 

[TSA321]

Meanwhile, another Bengali from Luton killed in Syria by drone attack
http://www.lutontoday.co.uk/news/crime/luton-jihadi-abu-rahin-aziz-dies-in-drone-attack-1-6834745

 

[TSA321]

Revealed: Entire British family of 12 - including three children aged 11, five and one - who fled their home in Luton to join ISIS in Syria are all now DEAD

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-12-fled-home-Luton-Syria-join-ISIS-DEAD.html

 

[PakLFC]

Now stay there permanently with your beloved Arab brethren. Such terror lovers must never be allowed in the country after making such s terrible decision. Can't understand the attraction tthese fool's have with the ISIS and such fanatical groups when in the west they can freely practise Islam. Having read the above conversation from my understanding Arab's will be killed in such massive numbers that a bird flying over will have nowhere to sit. We can see that most Arab's are now openly pro-Israel and pro-Zionism. Pak will play an important role in the coming times as we enter the final conflict with India.