'You have enjoyed all the liberty that you wanted to,' DG ISPR tells PTM leadership

[Hermoine Green]

No you are traitor! Pakistan Army Zindabad

It appears a thread about PTM has been derailed by those who seem to label anyone with a view different to their as a traitor. What a shame.

We should be celebrating movements like PTM which represent grass roots political activism rather than accusing them of foreign funding.

Glorifying the traitors, only mamoon can do that.
you think pak army afraid of PTM ? TTP did jack, so who the hell is this pashteen guy ?

I'd like to know, why foreign funding isn't a issue?

[MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION]
I hope i will get an answer for this (Those who believe PTM is a right thing)

Malik Matorkay, a guy who was killed because he unveiled the hidden agendas of the PTM and spoke up against fabricated anti-army lies.

Malik Matorkay was the brave man who released a video message to clear all the allegations against the army on the Shariatullah-abduction raid case, which became a subject of the false propagandist activities initiated by PTM.

Question is : After giving statement agsint PTM, first he and his brother was attacked by some Goons, but he managed to escape. A day later, Matorkay was killed. What does it show?

2nd Question is : What is the exact story behind the Jirgas of Khaisor?

3rd Question : Why dead body of SP Dawar were not given to Yousufzai and Shahryar Afridi who are Pashtun leaders? Instead Afghan official gave it to Mohsin Dawar.

I know i asked lots of questions in the past regarding PTM which were left un-answered. But i hope i will get these answers.

 

[WebGuru]

[MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION]
I hope i will get an answer for this (Those who believe PTM is a right thing)

Malik Matorkay, a guy who was killed because he unveiled the hidden agendas of the PTM and spoke up against fabricated anti-army lies.

Malik Matorkay was the brave man who released a video message to clear all the allegations against the army on the Shariatullah-abduction raid case, which became a subject of the false propagandist activities initiated by PTM.

Question is : After giving statement agsint PTM, first he and his brother was attacked by some Goons, but he managed to escape. A day later, Matorkay was killed. What does it show?

2nd Question is : What is the exact story behind the Jirgas of Khaisor?

3rd Question : Why dead body of SP Dawar were not given to Yousufzai and Shahryar Afridi who are Pashtun leaders? Instead Afghan official gave it to Mohsin Dawar.

I know i asked lots of questions in the past regarding PTM which were left un-answered. But i hope i will get these answers.

PTM symoathizers will avoid this post like it never existed

 

[Pakpak]

[MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION]
I hope i will get an answer for this (Those who believe PTM is a right thing)

Malik Matorkay, a guy who was killed because he unveiled the hidden agendas of the PTM and spoke up against fabricated anti-army lies.

Malik Matorkay was the brave man who released a video message to clear all the allegations against the army on the Shariatullah-abduction raid case, which became a subject of the false propagandist activities initiated by PTM.

Question is : After giving statement agsint PTM, first he and his brother was attacked by some Goons, but he managed to escape. A day later, Matorkay was killed. What does it show?

2nd Question is : What is the exact story behind the Jirgas of Khaisor?

3rd Question : Why dead body of SP Dawar were not given to Yousufzai and Shahryar Afridi who are Pashtun leaders? Instead Afghan official gave it to Mohsin Dawar.

I know i asked lots of questions in the past regarding PTM which were left un-answered. But i hope i will get these answers.

PTM symoathizers will avoid this post like it never existed

The moment we saw the Pakistani flag being trashed I knew it was a nonsense movement.

And like Slog said back then too people have been getting killed in encounters for decades, esp Karachittes, by police. Yet you don't see them using their ethnicities as a victim. Not all, but a lot of Pashtuns do this. This hyper and ultra victimisation which gets on my nerves every single time. Rao Anwar killed hundreds of innocents, Urdu speaking, Punjabis etc yet suddenly a Pashtun being killed and its a anti-Pashtun agenda?

Its utterly ridiculous.

 

[Bewal Express]

PTM are like foreign funded market researchers using Pashtun anger to find a niche.

 

[slipcatch]

It appears a thread about PTM has been derailed by those who seem to label anyone with a view different to their as a traitor. What a shame.

We should be celebrating movements like PTM which represent grass roots political activism rather than accusing them of foreign funding.

I'd like to know why foreign funding isn't a issue? And which nation would tolerate foreigners funding the group to go against their country?

You seem to post your comment and run away when ask to explain. Why even bother posting then?

 

[Mamoon]

“PTM itself is not an issue, their problems are genuine but a few individuals are playing into the hands of foreign hands.”

- Gen. Asif Ghafoor

So PTM’s demands are genuine, but the leadership which has given people the courage to rise against injustice and oppression, are playing into the hands of others.

I am in awe of our soldier’s wisdom.

 

[saeed5646]

[MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION]
I hope i will get an answer for this (Those who believe PTM is a right thing)

Malik Matorkay, a guy who was killed because he unveiled the hidden agendas of the PTM and spoke up against fabricated anti-army lies.

Malik Matorkay was the brave man who released a video message to clear all the allegations against the army on the Shariatullah-abduction raid case, which became a subject of the false propagandist activities initiated by PTM.

Question is : After giving statement agsint PTM, first he and his brother was attacked by some Goons, but he managed to escape. A day later, Matorkay was killed. What does it show?

2nd Question is : What is the exact story behind the Jirgas of Khaisor?

3rd Question : Why dead body of SP Dawar were not given to Yousufzai and Shahryar Afridi who are Pashtun leaders? Instead Afghan official gave it to Mohsin Dawar.

I know i asked lots of questions in the past regarding PTM which were left un-answered. But i hope i will get these answers.

these are some serious question .Hopefully you will get your answer

 

[Junaid_ahmed]

“PTM itself is not an issue, their problems are genuine but a few individuals are playing into the hands of foreign hands.”

- Gen. Asif Ghafoor

So PTM’s demands are genuine, but the leadership which has given people the courage to rise against injustice and oppression, are playing into the hands of others.

I am in awe of our soldier’s wisdom.

It's like MQM wasn't the issue but Altaf was.

 

[Hermoine Green]

these are some serious question .Hopefully you will get your answer

Did you visit Metro?

 

[saeed5646]

Did you visit Metro?

No but why are you asking this question.If it is about BRT i live far from it.

 

[Hermoine Green]

No but why are you asking this question.If it is about BRT i live far from it.

Sorry i messed it up. I thought you are from Peshawar but now i recall you aren't. Dr.Sohail is from peshawar.
Sorry bro.

 

[saeed5646]

Sorry i messed it up. I thought you are from Peshawar but now i recall you aren't. Dr.Sohail is from peshawar.
Sorry bro.

to be fair it was in mess when i visited in 2017 .but i am hopeful they have recovered well in last 2 years

 

[WebGuru]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The detained terrorist involved in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HayatabadOperation?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HayatabadOperation</a> has confessed to planning a suicide attack, on Shehram Taraki and Atif Khan, in a local court in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Peshawar?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Peshawar</a>. It goes without saying that <a href="https://twitter.com/manzoorpashteen?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@manzoorpashteen</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PTM?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PTM</a> tried to stoke ethnic tensions even on this operation. <a href="https://t.co/1Jz691tAX2">pic.twitter.com/1Jz691tAX2</a></p>— Ali Salman Alvi (@alisalmanalvi) <a href="https://twitter.com/alisalmanalvi/status/1125315784992014336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Hermoine Green]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The detained terrorist involved in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HayatabadOperation?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HayatabadOperation</a> has confessed to planning a suicide attack, on Shehram Taraki and Atif Khan, in a local court in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Peshawar?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Peshawar</a>. It goes without saying that <a href="https://twitter.com/manzoorpashteen?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@manzoorpashteen</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PTM?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PTM</a> tried to stoke ethnic tensions even on this operation. <a href="https://t.co/1Jz691tAX2">pic.twitter.com/1Jz691tAX2</a></p>— Ali Salman Alvi (@alisalmanalvi) <a href="https://twitter.com/alisalmanalvi/status/1125315784992014336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2019</a></blockquote>
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But.............these are all lies.

 

[WebGuru]

But.............these are all lies.

Wait and see PTM's supporters will come up with an excuse or will ignore this thread.

 

[Zeeraq]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The detained terrorist involved in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HayatabadOperation?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HayatabadOperation</a> has confessed to planning a suicide attack, on Shehram Taraki and Atif Khan, in a local court in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Peshawar?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Peshawar</a>. It goes without saying that <a href="https://twitter.com/manzoorpashteen?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@manzoorpashteen</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PTM?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PTM</a> tried to stoke ethnic tensions even on this operation. <a href="https://t.co/1Jz691tAX2">pic.twitter.com/1Jz691tAX2</a></p>— Ali Salman Alvi (@alisalmanalvi) <a href="https://twitter.com/alisalmanalvi/status/1125315784992014336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2019</a></blockquote>
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This is seriously messed up, people were quick to jump on Khadim Hussain Rizvi (which by the way I agree on, menace like these can only be dealt with irregular methods), but here from our opposition to media to pseudo-activists, everyone is mum regarding PTM leadership terrorism sympathizing tendencies - for which there is a plethora of data that indicates this troubling development.

 

[Pete Rose]

the PTM doesnt represent all pashtuns.
Lefty journalists stopped their education after 1971 so they point to everything and call it 1971.

 

[WebGuru]

First Naqeeb and now these traitors are using Farishta Mohmand rape and murder for their political gain and playing ethnic card chanting anti army slogan in her Janaza.

 

[Sirris]

First Naqeeb and now these traitors are using Farishta Mohmand rape and murder for their political gain and playing ethnic card chanting anti army slogan in her Janaza.

Let them be.

The real question is what are the genuine citizens doing about Farishta Mohmand's story and how come it isnt getting the necessary media attention. What's being done to catch and punish the guilt?

 

[WebGuru]

Let them be.

The real question is what are the genuine citizens doing about Farishta Mohmand's story and how come it isnt getting the necessary media attention. What's being done to catch and punish the guilt?

So far 2 suspects are arrested, SHO was suspended for delaying the FIR.

 

[Sirris]

So far 2 suspects are arrested, SHO was suspended for delaying the FIR.

Good.

As long as the state provides justice to the victims and the media gives the incident as much coverage as others in the past then the crazies of PTM can try to misuse the events as much as they want, the general public at the very least would be able to see through their scam.

 

[Waseem]

Just watched absolutely disgusting video of PTM leader Gulali Ismail.

She is using rape of innocent child blaming Army once again, she even said that people weren't necessarily migrating from war affected areas to protect themselves from bombs but from Army harassing women?

Poor girl's dead body was used as a tool by these morons to spread their own venom. Truly disgusting and pathetic behaviour by this propaganda group.

 

[WebGuru]

Just watched absolutely disgusting video of PTM leader Gulali Ismail.

She is using rape of innocent child blaming Army once again, she even said that people weren't necessarily migrating from war affected areas to protect themselves from bombs but from Army harassing women?

Poor girl's dead body was used as a tool by these morons to spread their own venom. Truly disgusting and pathetic behaviour by this propaganda group.

Where were these morons hiding when Army was saving their @$$ from TTP and other militants? Next time a racist PTM supporter show his face on PP he better give us this answer first and also would like to see how he defend the fact that PTM used the blood of an innocent child for their propaganda and why they were sitting with the Godfather of Rao Anwar a few days ago happily forgetting Naqeeb murder?

 

[Zhasan]

Where were these morons hiding when Army was saving their @$$ from TTP and other militants? Next time a racist PTM supporter show his face on PP he better give us this answer first and also would like to see how he defend the fact that PTM used the blood of an innocent child for their propaganda and why they were sitting with the Godfather of Rao Anwar a few days ago happily forgetting Naqeeb murder?

A better question would be where were they when Army along with it's pay masters Americans and their drone fleet were bombing the crap out of tribal areas.

They were MIA when Army led by Mushy was actually over stepping their bounds.

 

[Sirris]

A better question would be where were they when Army along with it's pay masters Americans and their drone fleet were bombing the crap out of tribal areas.

They were MIA when Army led by Mushy was actually over stepping their bounds.

Another question would be where were and are those who care about the innocents victims of Mushy's war and are willing to stand up for them and their rights without ethnic bias.

Where or who is the proper alternative to PTM?

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ps" dir="rtl">جغرافیې بدلبږی خو قامونه نه بدلیږی<br>زه افغان ووم، افغان یم او افغان به ووم<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BoycottARYNews?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BoycottARYNews</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/%D9%85%DB%8C%DA%BA_%D8%A8%DA%BE%DB%8C_%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%BA%D8%A7%D9%86_%DB%81%D9%88%DA%BA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#میں_بھی_افغان_ہوں</a></p>— Mohsin Dawar (@mjdawar) <a href="https://twitter.com/mjdawar/status/1131236148787994626?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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As per Google Translate:

Geographical disruptions but quarters do not change
I was Afghan, Afghani and I will be Afghan

What's all this about...

 

[WebGuru]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ps" dir="rtl">جغرافیې بدلبږی خو قامونه نه بدلیږی<br>زه افغان ووم، افغان یم او افغان به ووم<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BoycottARYNews?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BoycottARYNews</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/%D9%85%DB%8C%DA%BA_%D8%A8%DA%BE%DB%8C_%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%BA%D8%A7%D9%86_%DB%81%D9%88%DA%BA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#میں_بھی_افغان_ہوں</a></p>— Mohsin Dawar (@mjdawar) <a href="https://twitter.com/mjdawar/status/1131236148787994626?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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What's all this about...

I think Ary News earlier reported that Farishta family is from Afghanistan so now PTM got another opportunity to play ethnic card they never miss.

No matter if she is Afghan or Pakistani her family should get justice and the animals should be hanged.

 

[Waseem]

I think Ary News earlier reported that Farishta family is from Afghanistan so now PTM got another opportunity to play ethnic card they never miss.

No matter if she is Afghan or Pakistani her family should get justice and the animals should be hanged.

Absolutely shameful stuff from ARY, how on earth does it matter where the victim is from? PTM had already used this and obviously this becomes their propaganda tool.

 

[WebGuru]

FIR filed against Gulalai Ismail

 

[WebGuru]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NWTD incident. Innocent PTM supporters / workers need care. Only few are inciting and using them against state institutions for vested agenda. No one will be allowed to undo the gains of decades long national struggle & sacrifices especially of brave Pakistani tribals.</p>— Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor (@OfficialDGISPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR/status/1132678944799563777?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Loralai]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NWTD incident. Innocent PTM supporters / workers need care. Only few are inciting and using them against state institutions for vested agenda. No one will be allowed to undo the gains of decades long national struggle & sacrifices especially of brave Pakistani tribals.</p>— Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor (@OfficialDGISPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR/status/1132678944799563777?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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So generous of DG ISPR to spare a tweet for innocent Pashtuns. But maybe he wouldn't need to do this if Pakistan Army hadn't fired at its own citizens and killed three of them.

 

[WebGuru]

So generous of DG ISPR to spare a tweet for innocent Pashtuns. But maybe he wouldn't need to do this if Pakistan Army hadn't fired at its own citizens and killed three of them.

Stop using Pashtun card you and your PTM are not the only Pashtuns left in Pakistan so stop this racism.

 

[Loralai]

Stop using Pashtun card you and your PTM are not the only Pashtuns left in Pakistan so stop this racism.

Using violence against PTM protestors was wrong and you should be able to accept this even if you disagree with PTM.

 

[Bewal Express]

So generous of DG ISPR to spare a tweet for innocent Pashtuns. But maybe he wouldn't need to do this if Pakistan Army hadn't fired at its own citizens and killed three of them.

Was you there and saw what happened? Or was this like when your friends attacked the hotel, and you blamed the army- you know the one with missing person, who you blamed the army for but was being trained to kill innocent people.

 

[WebGuru]

Using violence against PTM protestors was wrong and you should be able to accept this even if you disagree with PTM.

Attacking checkposts and chanting anti state slogans is not tolerated by any state in the world so you had it coming your way. You should be thankful Army is still trying to avoid the bloodshed.

 

[King-Misbah]

Using violence against PTM protestors was wrong and you should be able to accept this even if you disagree with PTM.

More force should have been used! No one can attack an army check point? Personally, you are just blinded by hate. PTM do not represent pashtuns. Hopefully, PTM gets declared a terrorist organisation.

 

[Loralai]

More force should have been used! No one can attack an army check point? Personally, you are just blinded by hate. PTM do not represent pashtuns. Hopefully, PTM gets declared a terrorist organisation.

I think Pashtuns can decide who represents them and who doesn't without external input.

PTM has genuine democratic credentials and two leaders are in Parliament.

Lets hope Pakistan Army cracks down on genuine terrorist groups instead like JeM and JuD instead of targetting PTM.

 

[King-Misbah]

I think Pashtuns can decide who represents them and who doesn't without external input.

PTM has genuine democratic credentials and two leaders are in Parliament.

Lets hope Pakistan Army cracks down on genuine terrorist groups instead like JeM and JuD instead of targetting PTM.

Yes they can decide so stop making PTM the representatives of pashtuns. I come from a pashtun background too, PTM: no thanks! PTM seats were due to PTI accommodating them. PTI is the pashtun representative and PTM will be history soon. No one over Pakistan!

 

[MRSN]

I think Pashtuns can decide who represents them and who doesn't without external input.

PTM has genuine democratic credentials and two leaders are in Parliament.

Lets hope Pakistan Army cracks down on genuine terrorist groups instead like JeM and JuD instead of targetting PTM.

Quite stupid logic from you and PTM should be banned as they are trying to please their Afghan masters as everything they do is almost what Afghanis have been trying to achieve since we declared lines. They have failed with TTP and now they are using naive people like you to achieve their goals.

Hopefully Pashtuns won't buy into this.

Army checkpoints are there to make sure Afghan terrorists don't comeback and kill innocent Pakistanis. PTM doesn't want it so this makes PTM a loser and quite hatable for any peace loving person.

 

[MRSN]

Yes they can decide so stop making PTM the representatives of pashtuns. I come from a pashtun background too, PTM: no thanks! PTM seats were due to PTI accommodating them. PTI is the pashtun representative and PTM will be history soon. No one over Pakistan!

What makes me hate PTM is how they want to destroy Pak Afghan border and join into Afganistan. This is one of their main points. We all know Pashtuns do not agree with this thought no matter how much the love them so why these morons hace this as their main agenda. Rights is different but when you mix rights witu propaganda then people won't buy into you.

 

[MRSN]

Other than Loralai no other Pashtun on this forum is a traitor. As I said, we have had leaders, dictators, even our current PM and a massive segment of army...all Pashtun and all patriotic.

History tells us that small groups like these who divide nations are funded by bigger player to achieve their goals..Lybia,Syria,Afghanistan some of the examples we have. Pakistani people must reject these scumbags and don't buy into their propaganda of dividing the nation.

 

[saeed5646]

Other than Loralai no other Pashtun on this forum is a traitor. As I said, we have had leaders, dictators, even our current PM and a massive segment of army...all Pashtun and all patriotic.

Kpk province(apart from few which are low few in numbers)
Balochistan province
Karachi

These are places where more than half Pakistani Pashtun lives with happy life and don't agree with agenda of traitor like ptm .they are with Pakistan army and support pakistan army more than any Pakistani .don't lesson the garbage from this guy he doesn't represent "all Pashtun "

 

[WebGuru]

Arrested from Peshawar

 

[Abdullah719]

FIR filed against Gulalai Ismail

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PTM leader <a href="https://twitter.com/Gulalai_Ismail?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Gulalai_Ismail</a> is in New York and she has applied for asylum in the USA. She'll be sharing a <a href="https://twitter.com/nytimes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nytimes</a> article soon that contains her side of the story since she has been on the run. <a href="https://t.co/QlFMvs5O6f">pic.twitter.com/QlFMvs5O6f</a></p>— Ali Salman Alvi (@alisalmanalvi) <a href="https://twitter.com/alisalmanalvi/status/1174651099753717760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 19, 2019</a></blockquote>
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