"You may call Burhan Wani a terrorist, but he was an icon for the people there": Former RAW chief

[Strike Rate]

India’s former spymaster has said that a Kashmiri separatist killed by Indian security forces last month was an ‘icon for the people’ of Kashmir.

Burhan Wani, was killed by Indian security forces in an alleged gunfight on July 8. New Delhi called Wani a terrorist of the Hizbul Mujahideen and rebuked Pakistan for ‘supporting a terrorist.’

“You may call him a terrorist, but you can’t ignore that he was some sort of an icon for the people there,” AS Dulat, a former head of India’s Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), told The Economic Times in an interview. “He was different. He was popular. So, when he got killed, it created the situation for the flood of anger to come out,” Dulat added.

Wani’s killing has triggered an outrage in the disputed valley. India responded with a brute force to quell the widespread protests. Surprisingly, New Delhi blamed Pakistan for fuelling the unrest.

Dulat doesn’t agree. “There has been anger simmering for a long time and we [India] did not take cognisance of it. That anger just needed a spark, and Burhan Wani did that,” said Dulat, who was also adviser on Kashmir in the government of prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee.

“As an intelligence officer, I would have tried to bring him overground. Many militants in the past had a new life overground,” said Dulat who had revealed in a 2015 interview that RAW had been bankrolling Kashmiri separatists.

Pakistan has invited India for exclusive talks on Kashmir, but India turned down the offer. “The worst situation is when you don’t talk either with Pakistan or with Kashmiris. So, we must talk with Kashmiris and we must talk to Pakistan.”


http://tribune.com.pk/story/1171667/kashmir-arms-burhan-wani-icon-says-ex-raw-chief/

 

[JaDed]

Lol this guy has to be the worst RAW chief ever!

 

[90MPH]

Doesn't matter what he thinks now, damage has been done.

 

[Hornbill]

Lol this guy has to be the worst RAW chief ever!

What is the role of RAW in internal intelligence affairs ?

 

[JaDed]

What is the role of RAW in internal intelligence affairs ?

Who knows ,its supposed to be confidential but apparently this guy doesn't take it seriously.

 

[Bewal Express]

Bank rolling the separatists, interesting revelation.

 

[waqar goraya]

Lol this guy has to be the worst RAW chief ever!

How?

 

[Hornbill]

Bank rolling the separatists, interesting revelation.

It's a well known fact tbh

 

[cricketjoshila]

What is the role of RAW in internal intelligence affairs ?

Internal intelligence is handled by IB.Intelligence Bureau.

 

[Hornbill]

Internal intelligence is handled by IB.Intelligence Bureau.

Is he trying to expose separatists in front of the world ? If he directly says we pay separatists nobody will take it seriously and won't get much coverage

 

[troodon]

Is he trying to expose separatists in front of the world ? If he directly says we pay separatists nobody will take it seriously and won't get much coverage

Paisa is Paramatma.

All of the separatist leaders are on Pak payroll.

All of the pro-indian kashmiris and the separatists who surrendered arms or have become pro-indian informers are on Indian payroll.

Who are the losers here? The dudes who pick up stones, attack army and risk their lives are the losers here.

All these leaders who have protection and live comfy life have their families well settled. They never indulge in anything that can put their life in danger.

 

[Varun]

Sachin Tendulkar, Amitabh Bachchan and even Mohammad Amir are "icons for the people".

If people find a no-name like Burhan Wani, or Zakir Naik as their icon, they need to get around a bit.

 

[Major]

Sachin Tendulkar, Amitabh Bachchan and even Mohammad Amir are "icons for the people".

If people find a no-name like Burhan Wani, or Zakir Naik as their icon, they need to get around a bit.

he said Burhan wani was an icon for kashmiris. Do bother to read the whole sentence.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Sachin Tendulkar, Amitabh Bachchan and even Mohammad Amir are "icons for the people".

If people find a no-name like Burhan Wani, or Zakir Naik as their icon, they need to get around a bit.

I would say Amir was the most innocent among the three. Tendulkar and Amitabh have done everything to evade taxes.

 

[Varun]

I would say Amir was the most innocent among the three. Tendulkar and Amitabh have done everything to evade taxes.

If only evading taxes was the only allegation Amir was known for...

 

[big_gamer007]

Kashmiri's have been alienated for so long now that any incident would result in massive protests..

 

[Strike Rate]

These tears and dead bodies are not going to help things calm down. As i said earlier and will say it again there are always 2 sides of a coin. For India they are terrorists but for many living in the valley they are freedom fighters and these dead bodies will only result in more support for those raising voice for freedom. Before partition many Muslims/Hindus/Sikhs were labeled terrorists by British raaj but that doesn't change the fact they are our heros and they were freedom fighters.

 

[Lonewarrior]

You (India) can kill 1 Burhan wani or 1000 Burhan wanis but you can not kill the Idea, which is Bulletproof ....

 

[Hornbill]

Paisa is Paramatma.

All of the separatist leaders are on Pak payroll.

All of the pro-indian kashmiris and the separatists who surrendered arms or have become pro-indian informers are on Indian payroll.

Who are the losers here? The dudes who pick up stones, attack army and risk their lives are the losers here.

All these leaders who have protection and live comfy life have their families well settled. They never indulge in anything that can put their life in danger.

Few days ago Gilani said Indian army men are their brothers, according to latest news stone pelters are not targeting army vehicles.

 

[MenInG]

MIRPUR: It has been four years since the young freedom fighter from Kashmir, Burhan Muzaffar Wani, was martyred. Wani was remembered on both sides of the Line of Control (LoC) for his struggle against the occupying Indian forces.

Wani, a resident of Tral and commander of the Hizbul Mujahideen, was martyred along with two associates by the Indian troops in a fake encounter in Kokernag area on July 8 in 2016.

His martyrdom had triggered a sustained wave of violent protests that claimed the lives of at least 100 civilians.

In Azad Jammu and Kashmir, mass public rallies and demonstrations have been organised to pay tribute to Wani.

The All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHC) said they would stage protests across the occupied valley to convey a message to the world, particularly the United Nations, that the people of the disputed valley completely reject forcible occupation of their land.

In Mirpur, a special prayer meeting will be held for Wani and his martyred companions.

Hurriyat leaders and organisations, while paying tributes to Wani, said that he symbolises the unrelenting resistance of the Kashmiri people who are waging a struggle for the right to self-determination for more than seven decades, Kashmir Media Service reported.

Burhan Wani: An icon of resistance
Referring to the commitment of Wani to the Kashmir cause, Bilal Siddiqi said, “It is his valour, grace, devotion, patience and vision and wisdom by virtue of which he has become an icon of resistance.”

He added that Wani's sacrifice had embedded him in the history of resistance as an unforgettable hero who would act as a "guiding light for all freedom fighters throughout the world.”

Patron of Jammu and Kashmir Mass Movement, Farida Bahanji, while paying tributes to the martyred freedom fighter, said the whole world was aware of the impact of his martyrdom on the freedom movement of Kashmir.

“The participation of tens of thousands of people in the funerals of Kashmiri martyred youth is the manifestation of people’s hatred against India and their commitment to the freedom cause,” she said.

She added that the Indian aggression against unarmed Kashmiris had crossed all the limits and urged the United Nations to stop the state terrorism unleashed by Indian forces in the occupied territory.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/296885-ka...remembered-on-fourth-anniversary-of-martyrdom

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Ina lillahi wa Inna ilaihi rajioon.

 

[MenInG]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1545350525142519808

 

[The Bald Eagle]

8th anniversary of the great martyred
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All parties Hurriyat Conference pays tribute to Burhan Wani on 8th anniversary of Burhan Wani

All Parties Hurriyat Conference convener Ghulam Safi paying tribute to Burhan Wani said that martyrdom of Burhan Wani breathed new life into the Kashmir freedom movement.

Despite millions of efforts, India could not suppress the freedom spirit of Kashmiris as right to self-determination has been recognized in the United Nations resolution.

“The day is not far when Kashmiris will breathe free air,” he vowed.

“The youth of Occupied Kashmir are following the footsteps of Burhan Wani .India could not suppress the freedom spirit of Kashmiris and cannot cannot maintain occupation of Held Kashmir,” Ghulam Safi added.

“If not today, then tomorrow, India's occupation will end,” he emphazied.

Mushaal Hussein Mullick released a video message on Burhan Muzaffar Wani's martyrdom day.

She said Burhan Wani's planted sapling has become trees now as Burhan fought the usurping Indian army with courage and bravery.

“Shaheed Burhan Wani is a symbol of determination and independence for young Kashmiris who exposed Indian state terrorism to the whole world,” she said.

Illegally detained Chairman of All Parties Hurriyat Conference Masarat Alam Butt has paid tributes to Shaheed Burhan Wani and his associates on their martyrdom anniversary.

In his message on martyrdom anniversary of Burhan Wani from Tihar Jail, he urged the Kashmiris to organize protest rallies, seminars and other programmes to pay tributes to Burhan Wani and his companions, who lit the candle of Kashmir’s freedom movement with their blood.

The APHC Chairman said that Burhan Wani was a symbol of fear for imperialist India and a role model for the people of Kashmir, especially the youth, who sacrificed his life for the Kashmir cause.

In Azad Kashmir, protest rallies will be taken out in all districts by Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Commission, Pasban-e-Hurriyat other Hurriyat organizations.

In Muzaffarabad, a protest rally will be taken out from Burhan Muzaffarwani Chowk.

Source: Samaa News

 

[Champ_Pal]

Celebrating Terrorist death anniversary.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Celebrating Terrorist death anniversary.

Even Ex Raw chief thinks the opposite

 

[Champ_Pal]

Even Ex Raw chief thinks the opposite

Wani obvioulsy has some following among some gullible jobless youth. That is what the ex-Raw chief was saying.

He is dead now. The forces behind Kashmir separatism has to milk his image as much as they can even after he died almost a decade ago.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Wani obvioulsy has some following among some gullible jobless youth. That is what the ex-Raw chief was saying.

He is dead now. The forces behind Kashmir separatism has to milk his image as much as they can even after he died almost a decade ago.

Well i think of him as opposite obviously as an Indian one can't understand his point of view and struggle.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Well i think of him as opposite obviously as an Indian one can't understand his point of view and struggle.

His point of view is obvious. Muslim Kashmiris cannot accept Hindu rule at the center. They will never accept a Kafir as their boss.
Separatism based on religion is an old concept. That was done and dusted in 1947.

 

[Major]

Its a bit disturbing how a few posters here think that Wani is a terrorist.

 

[Major]

@Bhaijaan in response to your post in the other thread.

Well just because you guys have issues and are offended by every person in the world, doesnt mean i have to be politically correct towards you.

Ok i get the Ajmal Kasb thing, fair enough. But than having issues with now Wani?

For many muslims, Modi is a terrorist but no one is asking you not to support him, paste his name around here or his face.

Modi was banned in USA for his acts in Gujarat. But hey you vote for him.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

His point of view is obvious. Muslim Kashmiris cannot accept Hindu rule at the center. They will never accept a Kafir as their boss.
Separatism based on religion is an old concept. That was done and dusted in 1947.

This has never been the problem of Kashmir. It was a majority Muslim state which should have become Pakistan. If it was a minority, Muslims there would have no problem living as a minority under Hindu rule provided they were allowed to live as Muslims with no state interference in their religious matters.

 

[Bhaijaan]

@Bhaijaan in response to your post in the other thread.

Well just because you guys have issues and are offended by every person in the world, doesnt mean i have to be politically correct towards you.

Ok i get the Ajmal Kasb thing, fair enough. But than having issues with now Wani?

For many muslims, Modi is a terrorist but no one is asking you not to support him, paste his name around here or his face.

Modi was banned in USA for his acts in Gujarat. But hey you vote for him.

I said that Burhan Wani is the equivalent of the BLA commanders.

How would Pakistanis feel if Bharatiya posters are celebrating BLA militants right now while they’re killing Pakistan army men ?

 

[Major]

I said that Burhan Wani is the equivalent of the BLA commanders.

How would Pakistanis feel if Bharatiya posters are celebrating BLA militants right now while they’re killing Pakistan army men ?

How is Balochistan same as Kashmir?

Is Baluchistan a disputed territory?

 

[Bhaijaan]

How is Balochistan same as Kashmir?

Is Baluchistan a disputed territory?

Of course it is.

What are you on about

 

[Major]

Of course it is.

What are you on about

On which world forum was baluchistan a disputed territory. Atleast kashmir was than even india agreed under its various pm. Indiras whole shimla agreement was on the basis of the dispute.

Just because you dream of it doesnt make it a disputed territory.

 

[RexRex]

How is Balochistan same as Kashmir?

Is Baluchistan a disputed territory?

People of Baluchistan want a referendum. Go and ask them.

 

[Devadwal]

How is Balochistan same as Kashmir?

Is Baluchistan a disputed territory?

Wake up and smell the reality as you're expert of it .

 

[Major]

People of Baluchistan want a referendum. Go and ask them.

Again is it a disputed territory?
You lot cant seem to answer this question

 

[Technics 1210]

How is this news when Modi the convicted religious terrorist is now voted PM by the terrorist cult?

Come on, most Indians take pride in the assassination of Gandhi, and the OP is an eye opener?

Orange is the new euphemism for terrorism.

And forget RAW, they were running faster than the Afghans for their daal chawaal.

 

[Bhaijaan]

People of Baluchistan want a referendum. Go and ask them.

How is this news when Modi the convicted religious terrorist is now voted PM by the terrorist cult?

Come on, most Indians take pride in the assassination of Gandhi, and the OP is an eye opener?

Orange is the new euphemism for terrorism.

And forget RAW, they were running faster than the Afghans for their daal chawaal.

Spreading false information won’t take you anywhere. Modi a convicted religious terrorist? When did that happen?

 

[RexRex]

Again is it a disputed territory?
You lot cant seem to answer this question

Don't you believe in the right of self-determination for Kashmiris ? Same should apply to people of Baluchistan if you want to avoid accusations of moral hypocrisy.

Words like 'dispute' mean nothing the above context. 'Disputed territory' means you only care about who owns the territory of Kashmir -> India or Pakistan You don't care about the wishes of the local people. I'm sure you'll agree.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If Balochistan is a disputed territory then that means partition was invalid, and actually most of Pakistan is India. Is that what Indians are arguing?

 

[Major]

Don't you believe in the right of self-determination for Kashmiris ? Same should apply to people of Baluchistan if you want to avoid accusations of moral hypocrisy.

Words like 'dispute' mean nothing the above context. 'Disputed territory' means you only care about who owns the territory of Kashmir -> India or Pakistan You don't care about the wishes of the local people. I'm sure you'll agree.

Words like disputed do have meaning. Because these issues have been highlighted at UN and special councils been held for them. Furthermore your own govts have recognized it as disputes with the likes of indira signing shimla agreement on it.

 

[Major]

If Balochistan is a disputed territory then that means partition was invalid, and actually most of Pakistan is India. Is that what Indians are arguing?

No idea. They cant make a u turn either cause they know kashmir is a recognized issue as their own pms have signed agreements like shimla agreement.

 

[RexRex]

Words like disputed do have meaning. Because these issues have been highlighted at UN and special councils been held for them. Furthermore your own govts have recognized it as disputes with the likes of indira signing shimla agreement on it.

Thanks for admitting you don't care about the right of self determination for Kashmiris, you only care about your country owning the physical territory of Kasmir. A rare honest admission by a pakistani.

 

[RexRex]

If Balochistan is a disputed territory then that means partition was invalid, and actually most of Pakistan is India. Is that what Indians are arguing?

Are you aware that Balochistan was forced to join Pakistan, it wasn't voluntary ? Well, now you know.

 

[Bhaijaan]

No idea. They cant make a u turn either cause they know kashmir is a recognized issue as their own pms have signed agreements like shimla agreement.

Actually Balochistan’s matter is much much worse. No wonder the situation right now is so bad in Balochistan with thousands of people dead on both sides in recent times. Kashmir in the other hand is witnessing an era of peace and progress (the past that we control). Pakistan controlled Kashmir , no progress is happening there and Kashmiris Muslims are realizing their historical mistakes.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Are you aware that Balochistan was forced to join Pakistan, it wasn't voluntary ? Well, now you know.

Did you know?

Some princely states in 1947 didn’t want to join India and had to be pressured or even forced. The biggest example is Hyderabad, where the Nizam wanted to stay independent, but India sent the army (Operation Polo) and took control in 1948. Junagadh’s Nawab wanted to join Pakistan, but the people opposed it, and India took over after holding a vote.

Jammu & Kashmir was undecided at first, but after a Pakistani-backed attack, the Maharaja had to sign the accession to India. Manipur and Tripura also didn’t merge right away—there was some resistance, but by 1949, both joined India. Bhopal’s Nawab also wanted to stay independent but had to agree to merge. Travancore first tried to remain separate but was convinced to join after some pressure.

Sardar Patel and VP Menon handled most of these, using a mix of talks, political pressure, and, when needed, military action.

 

[RexRex]

Did you know?

Some princely states in 1947 didn’t want to join India and had to be pressured or even forced. The biggest example is Hyderabad, where the Nizam wanted to stay independent, but India sent the army (Operation Polo) and took control in 1948. Junagadh’s Nawab wanted to join Pakistan, but the people opposed it, and India took over after holding a vote.

Jammu & Kashmir was undecided at first, but after a Pakistani-backed attack, the Maharaja had to sign the accession to India. Manipur and Tripura also didn’t merge right away—there was some resistance, but by 1949, both joined India. Bhopal’s Nawab also wanted to stay independent but had to agree to merge. Travancore first tried to remain separate but was convinced to join after some pressure.

Sardar Patel and VP Menon handled most of these, using a mix of talks, political pressure, and, when needed, military action.

Pakistan violated the accession agreement first by invading Kasmir.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Are you aware that Balochistan was forced to join Pakistan, it wasn't voluntary ? Well, now you know.

So are you saying it should be part of India? Otherwise I'm not really understanding how it even came into any discussions regarding partition.

 

[RexRex]

So are you saying it should be part of India? Otherwise I'm not really understanding how it even came into any discussions regarding partition.

What I'm saying is .. Pakistan, in its official press releases, call for self-determination for Kashmiri people (currently Ind territory), but deny it to the people of Baluchistan (currently Pak territory).

See the hypocrisy here ? The fact that the UN was involved in one issue (60 yrs ago) doesn't alter the moral argument.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What I'm saying is .. Pakistan, in its official press releases, call for self-determination for Kashmiri people (currently Ind territory), but deny it to the people of Baluchistan (currently Pak territory).

See the hypocrisy here ? The fact that the UN was involved in one issue (60 yrs ago) doesn't alter the moral argument.

I am not asking what Pakistan claims or doesn't claim. India was carved up according to religion. In alignment with that Balochistan became part of Pakistan. If you don't agree with that, then why should Punjab or Sindh be part of Pakistan?

 

[RexRex]

I am not asking what Pakistan claims or doesn't claim. India was carved up according to religion. In alignment with that Balochistan became part of Pakistan. If you don't agree with that, then why should Punjab or Sindh be part of Pakistan?

India wasn't carved up according to religion. Who taught you this ?

The kings of the various princely kingdoms in the British Raj were a given choice to join India or Pakistan or be an independent state. Most chose to join India or Pakistan. Some like Balochistan wanted to be independent but Pak forced them to join their union.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

India wasn't carved up according to religion. Who taught you this ?

The kings of the various princely kingdoms in the British Raj were a given choice to join India or Pakistan or be an independent state. Most chose to join India or Pakistan. Some like Balochistan wanted to be independent but Pak forced them to join their union.

How did Pak force them to join their union?

 

[Major]

Thanks for admitting you don't care about the right of self determination for Kashmiris, you only care about your country owning the physical territory of Kasmir. A rare honest admission by a pakistani.

you are one weird poster who tries to act over smart.

Kashmir is a disputed territory.

 

[Major]

Are you aware that Balochistan was forced to join Pakistan, it wasn't voluntary ? Well, now you know.

Are you aware Balochistan is not disputed?

Also are you aware almost all the princely states were forced to join either india or Pakistan. By your logic every princely state that joined India should be fighting for independance.

Someone didnt pay attention to their Indian history classes

 

[Major]

Actually Balochistan’s matter is much much worse. No wonder the situation right now is so bad in Balochistan with thousands of people dead on both sides in recent times. Kashmir in the other hand is witnessing an era of peace and progress (the past that we control). Pakistan controlled Kashmir , no progress is happening there and Kashmiris Muslims are realizing their historical mistakes.

Is Balochistan a disputed territory? DOnt give me lectures about a place you have never visted.

Answer a simple question

 

[IMMY69]

India wasn't carved up according to religion. Who taught you this ?

The kings of the various princely kingdoms in the British Raj were a given choice to join India or Pakistan or be an independent state. Most chose to join India or Pakistan. Some like Balochistan wanted to be independent but Pak forced them to join their union.

Oh dear.

 

[RexRex]

you are one weird poster who tries to act over smart.

Kashmir is a disputed territory.

There's no point in childishly repeating that Kashmir is 'disputed'.

You don't care about the people's right to self-determination, thus exposing yourself as a moral hypocrite.

 

[RexRex]

How did Pak force them to join their union?

I had posted an article from a Pakistani newspaper on PP about this issue a long time ago. I'll post it if I find it.

 

[RexRex]

Is Balochistan a disputed territory? DOnt give me lectures about a place you have never visted.

Answer a simple question

Baloch people can't wait to be free from Pakistan's clutches.

 

[Major]

Baloch people can't wait to be free from Pakistan's clutches.

Who told you this? Do you interact with Balochis? I have had Balochi classmates and they dont share such sentiments.

You seem to be dodging the question again and again with your irrelevent posts. Is Balochistan disputed? I dont wnt to listen to your fairy tales regarding people you have never met in your life.

 

[Major]

There's no point in childishly repeating that Kashmir is 'disputed'.

You don't care about the people's right to self-determination, thus exposing yourself as a moral hypocrite.

What im stating is a fact. The only one acting as a naive child is you who is trying to equate things.

When you have no answers, you start to assume things and make fairy tales, first it was about my concerns for rights now its about some balochi wanting to be free.

Kashmir is disputed, Balochistan is not. Next time, post facts

 

[cricketjoshila]

India wasn't carved up according to religion. Who taught you this ?

The kings of the various princely kingdoms in the British Raj were a given choice to join India or Pakistan or be an independent state. Most chose to join India or Pakistan. Some like Balochistan wanted to be independent but Pak forced them to join their union.

Most here don't have any idea about the princely states and their status.

They think entire sub continent was under direct British rule and partitioned.

 

[RexRex]

What im stating is a fact. The only one acting as a naive child is you who is trying to equate things.

When you have no answers, you start to assume things and make fairy tales, first it was about my concerns for rights now its about some balochi wanting to be free.

Kashmir is disputed, Balochistan is not. Next time, post facts

I don't, or most Indians don't, care about this term 'dispute' that you are fixated on.

I care about fairness & justice and Pakistan's stance is clearly not fair and just to the Baloch people. Give them their freedom.

 

[RexRex]

How did Pak force them to join their union?

This article in a Pak newspaper explains it.

How Balochistan became a part of Pakistan – a historical perspective

Balochistan consists of the south west of Pakistan. In the west it borders with Afghanistan and Iran and in the south it has the Arabian Sea. It accounts for

www.nation.com.pk

Here is the relevant paragraph:-

" On March 26, 1948, the Pakistan Army was ordered to move into the Baloch coastal region of Pasni, Jiwani and Turbat. This was the first act of aggression prior to the march on Kalat by a Pakistani military detachment on April 1, 1948. Kalat capitulated on March 27 after the army moved into the coastal region and it was announced in Karachi that the Khan of Kalat has agreed to merge his state with Pakistan. Jinnah accepted this accession under the gun. It should be noted that the Balochistan Assembly had already rejected any suggestion of forfeiting the independence of Balochistan on any pretext. So even the signature of the Khan of Kalat taken under the barrel of the gun, was not viable, because the parliament had rejected the accession and the accession was never mandated by the British Empire either, who had given Balochistan under Kalat independence before India. The sovereign Baloch state after British withdrawal from India lasted only 227 days. During this time Baluchistan had a flag flying in its embassy in Karachi where its ambassador to Pakistan lived. "

 

[Major]

I don't, or most Indians don't, care about this term 'dispute' that you are fixated on.

I care about fairness & justice and Pakistan's stance is clearly not fair and just to the Baloch people. Give them their freedom.

It doesnt matter what you dont care about....

Disputed term defines the issue in Kashmir. You dont care about fairness or justice, you just care about your nationalism.

Like i have said Balochistan territory is not disputed

 

[Rajdeep]

The person who bumped this thread seems to be suffering from DPD (Dual Personality Disorder). On odd day he glorifies UN designated terrorists like Ajmal Kasab and Burhan Wani and then on even days he accuses muslims for being responsible for Islamophobia and even open threads about it. In my tenure in PP, @Major is the only poster whose true intentions I am unable to decipher yet. If its trolling, then it is so classic that its even evading Rajdeep's shrewd eyes.

 

[RexRex]

Like i have said Balochistan territory is not disputed

Balochistan territory is disputed by the Baloch people. They don't want to be a part of Pakistan. That is why Pak is terrified of holding a referendum there.

Why are you so dishonest, Major ?

 

[Major]

Balochistan territory is disputed by the Baloch people. They don't want to be a part of Pakistan. That is why Pak is terrified of holding a referendum there.

Why are you so dishonest, Major ?

Can you plz provide proof of balochistan being disputed? Thanks.

Just because you feel like something is disputed doesnt make it disputed. Thats like me saying nagaland is disputed.

 

[RexRex]

Can you plz provide proof of balochistan being disputed? Thanks.

Ask the people of Balochistan, they'll tell you that their land is disputed territory.

They want the same freedom that you demand for Kashmiris. Stop being cruel & give them their rights.

 

[Major]

Ask the people of Balochistan, they'll tell you that their land is disputed territory.

They want the same freedom that you demand for Kashmiris. Stop being cruel & give them their rights.

still waiting for a source.

 

[RexRex]

still waiting for a source.

The 14,894,402 people who live in Balochistan - they are the source.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Ask the people of Balochistan, they'll tell you that their land is disputed territory.

They want the same freedom that you demand for Kashmiris. Stop being cruel & give them their rights.

The Sikhs in India’s side of Punjab want freedom, give them their rights.

They’ll tell you their land is disputed territory.

^^^ This is what you sound like^^^

 

[YousafTheBeast]

@RexRex

“Oh, how disgusting to see so many posters on this forum supporting Hamas and Hezbollah”.

Also @RexRex

*Proceeds to call BLA as “freedom fighters”*

 

[RexRex]

@RexRex

“Oh, how disgusting to see so many posters on this forum supporting Hamas and Hezbollah”.

Also @RexRex

*Proceeds to call BLA as “freedom fighters”*

BLA ?! I didn't even mention them once in this thread.

 

[Bhaijaan]

The Sikhs in India’s side of Punjab want freedom, give them their rights.

They’ll tell you their land is disputed territory.

^^^ This is what you sound like^^^

lol i live in Punjab and no one is blowing up army convoys here. Khalistanis and Punjabi Sikhs aren’t the same anymore.

 

[uppercut]

Words like disputed do have meaning. Because these issues have been highlighted at UN and special councils been held for them. Furthermore your own govts have recognized it as disputes with the likes of indira signing shimla agreement on it.

So since you hold the UN in such high esteem any thoughts on Pakistan sheltering UN sanctioned terrorists ?

 

[captain.hansolo]

It's a well known fact tbh

Do you have any record of banking transactions? maybe some paper trail? maybe some memo leaked? some iota of evidence to suggest that RAW is funding the very separatist it is fighting?

i am sure that RAW attempts to support proxies in Pakistan, but support kashmiri militants?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Who told you this? Do you interact with Balochis? I have had Balochi classmates and they dont share such sentiments.

You seem to be dodging the question again and again with your irrelevent posts. Is Balochistan disputed? I dont wnt to listen to your fairy tales regarding people you have never met in your life.

I have an uncle who used to work as a civil engineer in Balochistan, he himself said there were some grievances as to the underdevelopment of the province, but that was all the people there wanted, some more resources allocated to them, not independence. These separatists are funded by outsiders fighting proxy wars. If Pakistan did the same thing across the border it would be called state sponsored terrorism.