Younis Khan's history of slating PCB is well known, then why give him a role on the Pakistan tour?

[MenInG]

I like the idea of Younis Khan helping people in the nets and giving them good advice but given his history of not being happy with PCB's policies/actions - is there a danger that having such a person onboard could backfire?

Food for thought but also puts in question the thought process on hirings etc - Surely people coming on board must see eye to eye on all issues with PCB or should atleast not have slated them so publicly?

 

[Mamoon]

This will inevitably end in tears. I won’t be surprised if Younis gets offended on tour and returns home.

As a player he had fantastic work ethic, but he cannot be trusted in a leadership/management role.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Because younis has plenty of backers.

That and being a great test player combined with a selfish crybaby means he often gets what he wants

 

[Rana]

This has Misbah written all over it. He’s bringing in his Test team stalwarts to restore Pakistan’s good run under his captaincy. Wouldn’t be surprised if Yasir Shah becomes head spin consultant upon retirement.

 

[Bewal Express]

Watching YK jumping around like a cat on a hot tin roof in 2016, and this as a very experienced player, I am not sure what technical skills he will impart to others when standing still and being balanced at the crease was so difficult for him.

 

[Kroll]

One thing's for sure, PCB must have some awfully thick skins if they've allowed a talented but equally bitter YK on board.

 

[Rana]

Watching YK jumping around like a cat on a hot tin roof in 2016, and this as a very experienced player, I am not sure what technical skills he will impart to others when standing still and being balanced at the crease was so difficult for him.

I don’t think that’s a fair argument when the best batsman in the world (Steven Smith) has no technique whatsoever. Gone are the days when batting was politically correct.

 

[Bewal Express]

I don’t think that’s a fair argument when the best batsman in the world (Steven Smith) has no technique whatsoever. Gone are the days when batting was politically correct.

It maybe over the top but the point is valid. Using a good batsmen like YK is a mentor is fine but that isn't the same as being a good coach. If you are going to make a difference to techniques then you need to have an eye for fine detail and we don't know if he does. I am not a great believer in coaches at the higher level, I think its highly overrated. If you want players to improve give them lots of matches on good wickets and if they have the talent, they will be fine.

 

[Titan24]

If Younus Khan was appointed under a different coach it could have been difficult for both but Misbah have had an excellent relationship with Younus throughout and I think and hope there wont be any issues.

Coming to the coaching sides of the thing, at international level Younus isnt gonna teach basics to anyone or form their technique in a certain way. Its about slight adjustments like which stump (guard) to take against which bowler and under which conditions, slight change in the initial movement, stance, where is the bat coming from, bat flow etc. along with mainly the pressure handling side of the batting.

When a guy has over 10,000 test runs, irrespective lf his own style of play he knows almost everything about struggles against certain type of bowlers, in certain conditions and small technical issues one faces in his career. Also not to forget he was one of the best players of spin we have produced in tests and our current lot definitely need some work and guidance on that as well.

 

[Hawkeye]

Ugh.

Any person with the IQ and people skills of Younis Khan should never be appointed a major coaching or management job.

He didn't have a textbook technique either.

This has disaster written all over it.

Hoping it doesn't happen though.

 

[Hasan123]

It will be interesting to see how this goes. I have doubts Younis being able to teach batters about how to overcome their weaknesses.

 

[Savak]

Why not? If an entity doesn't like criticism, it can resign. An honest organization does not hold petty grudges against individuals who honestly criticize its working.

 

[Hitman]

At least give him a chance then judge him. This will be his first assignment as coach.

 

[Nasty Naz]

I don’t think that’s a fair argument when the best batsman in the world (Steven Smith) has no technique whatsoever. Gone are the days when batting was politically correct.

Laughable.

Just because its unorthodox doesn't mean he has no technique. There is a reason he is averaging 60+ and bowlers can't pick out a flaw. Not every player needs to be pigeon holed into a box to play a certain way and nothing but that.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Watching YK jumping around like a cat on a hot tin roof in 2016, and this as a very experienced player, I am not sure what technical skills he will impart to others when standing still and being balanced at the crease was so difficult for him.

YK had great test match temperament though. And his batting was much more organised at the Oval when he wasn't jumping around much.

 

[Bouncer]

Can someone please post all the chronological events that younis Khan had been involved with PCB?

There's so many that I can't even count them anymore.

 

[CleverSir]

At least give him a chance then judge him. This will be his first assignment as coach.

People jumping to conclusions before a ball has even been bowled. Seriously, need to see what he does before judging him as a coach. Clearly Misbah has trust in his abilities or he wouldn't be the batting coach. The HC is allowed to bring in support staff he thinks will help him.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Can someone please post all the chronological events that younis Khan had been involved with PCB?

There's so many that I can't even count them anymore.

Younis has had problems with previous boards, not with Mani and WK. PCB isn’t a monolithic, unchanging entity.

It changes and Younis doesn’t have as many problems with the current board (and the ones he does have, clearly both him and PCB are professional enough to set it aside for the sake of the team)

 

[Mamoon]

Can someone please post all the chronological events that younis Khan had been involved with PCB?

There's so many that I can't even count them anymore.

From the top of my head:

2007 World Cup: refused to take over as captain after Inzamam at the last minute

2009: oath-gate

2010: gets banned for life by Ijaz Butt.

2013: threw a tantrum after getting dropped from the ODI squad even though he didn’t score a hundred since 2008 and was averaging 23.

2014/15: threw a vicious tantrum when the selectors told him that he wasn’t in the plans for the 2015 World Cup. He did a Miandad 1996 and forced himself into the squad only to fail miserably.

2017: retired from Tests when PCB didn’t accept his demand of taking over as captain after Misbah.

2018: he was invited for a coaching program but he went back when he found out that the PCB didn’t arrange a VIP suite for him.

This doesn’t include the incident where he beat up a fan in 2009.

Meanwhile during all these years, he has referred to himself in third person.

 

[Rana]

From the top of my head:

2007 World Cup: refused to take over as captain after Inzamam at the last minute

2009: oath-gate

2010: gets banned for life by Ijaz Butt.

2013: threw a tantrum after getting dropped from the ODI squad even though he didn’t score a hundred since 2008 and was averaging 23.

2014/15: threw a vicious tantrum when the selectors told him that he wasn’t in the plans for the 2015 World Cup. He did a Miandad 1996 and forced himself into the squad only to fail miserably.

2017: retired from Tests when PCB didn’t accept his demand of taking over as captain after Misbah.

2018: he was invited for a coaching program but he went back when he found out that the PCB didn’t arrange a VIP suite for him.

This doesn’t include the incident where he beat up a fan in 2009.

Meanwhile during all these years, he has referred to himself in third person.

Wow, with all this baggage he still has a healthy average of 52 in Tests, with over 30 hundreds and the most prolific run scorer in Pakistan history. That’s all that matters I’m afraid.

 

[Savak]

Many junior players have vouched for Younis Khan's work ethic, batting and life philosophy and even someone like Shan Masood who has had a very educated, westernized outlook, experiences in life has considered him to be an inspiration.

Younis Khan will have to keep his man management issues in check and the PCB will also have to learn how to deal with him but this is exactly the guy you want to be mentoring youngsters

 

[Mamoon]

Wow, with all this baggage he still has a healthy average of 52 in Tests, with over 30 hundreds and the most prolific run scorer in Pakistan history. That’s all that matters I’m afraid.

Those statistics will not help him handle the players. We are talking about a man who couldn’t even keep the dressing room together for a year in spite of winning an ICC tournament which is supposed to boost team spirit and bonding.

He is a terrible man manager and employing him is a risk.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Those statistics will not help him handle the players. We are talking about a man who couldn’t even keep the dressing room together for a year in spite of winning an ICC tournament which is supposed to boost team spirit and bonding.

He is a terrible man manager and employing him is a risk.

I think having him under Misbah who is an excellent man manager will help keep him calm.

 

[Rana]

Those statistics will not help him handle the players. We are talking about a man who couldn’t even keep the dressing room together for a year in spite of winning an ICC tournament which is supposed to boost team spirit and bonding.

He is a terrible man manager and employing him is a risk.

Why are you comparing the 2009 dressing room which consisted of some of the greatest Primadonas in Pak history to the current dressing room who’s captain is Babar Azam and Azhar Ali?

 

[Mamoon]

Why are you comparing the 2009 dressing room which consisted of some of the greatest Primadonas in Pak history to the current dressing room who’s captain is Babar Azam and Azhar Ali?

Because I am skeptical about his temperament. He has the tendency to get offended at the slightest.

 

[Mamoon]

I think having him under Misbah who is an excellent man manager will help keep him calm.

Could be, but I really don’t see the logic of hiring a batsman coach when Misbah is the head coach.

 

[shamaan]

Could be, but I really don’t see the logic of hiring a batsman coach when Misbah is the head coach.

Less pressure for misbah to much for him before

 

[shamaan]

Those statistics will not help him handle the players. We are talking about a man who couldn’t even keep the dressing room together for a year in spite of winning an ICC tournament which is supposed to boost team spirit and bonding.

He is a terrible man manager and employing him is a risk.

That's cuz thier was egos then much more than now anywaiz

 

[shamaan]

Why are you comparing the 2009 dressing room which consisted of some of the greatest Primadonas in Pak history to the current dressing room who’s captain is Babar Azam and Azhar Ali?

I agree

 

[Saj]

Younis Khan recently "What a befitting and bitter truth spoken by Shoaib Akhtar! It takes a backbone to be simply uncompromisingly forthright. Time for Pakistan Cricket Board to honestly evaluate his remarks for the betterment of Pakistan cricket and its players. I stand by with Shoaib Akhtar"

Younis Khan also turned down Pakistan Cricket Board's invitation to be a special guest during the second Test against Sri Lanka at the National Stadium last December.

I'm sure there will be more incidents.

I guess everything must be rosy in PCB's garden for YK now though.

 

[Usman]

I agree that Younus's appointment is a big risk because for all his brilliance as a batsman, he is mentally not all ok. He shows moments of unbeliveable rage at things that any rational person wouldn't be remotely angry about.

Putting that all to one side, what exactly is Misbah's job here? Fast bowling has been handed to Waqar. Spin to Mushtaq and now batting to Younus. Misbah doesn't have any high level coaching skills so what exactly will he be doing on this tour?

 

[moghul]

Will pick up a fight with someone mid-tour and will fly back

 

[Savak]

Younis Khan recently "What a befitting and bitter truth spoken by Shoaib Akhtar! It takes a backbone to be simply uncompromisingly forthright. Time for Pakistan Cricket Board to honestly evaluate his remarks for the betterment of Pakistan cricket and its players. I stand by with Shoaib Akhtar"

Younis Khan also turned down Pakistan Cricket Board's invitation to be a special guest during the second Test against Sri Lanka at the National Stadium last December.

I'm sure there will be more incidents.

I guess everything must be rosy in PCB's garden for YK now though.

I'd rather he be serving Pakistan Cricket rather than sit at home. Ofcourse some people who criticize ex players for not contributing to Pakistan Cricket while simultaneously criticizing Pakistan Cricket Board for employing egotistic players while supporting certain players in the board who have served for a long time with zero achievements to talk about will never be happy

 

[ZamanFan]

Rofl this is a huge gamble for PCB. Wasim Khan basically doing the opposite of what they did with Mickey Arthur. They are giving everything and anything Misbah wants, probably pleading with Misbah bhai tu jo chaahe le le buss results de de.

Younis Khan is a very risky prospect for PCB , he does not fear losing a contract on what he believes in and he is temperamental. Has worked with Misbah before, so he trusts him but there is Mushtaq Ahmed as well as Waqar Younis there. Will they be able to handle so many egos together?

Announcement shows there is not much time for preparation for the cricketers.

 

[Shazzam]

So we got inexperienced head coach and an inexperienced batting coach. Both former players. Things will get interesting to for Pakistan.

 

[Snowflake]

Anyone who has followed Pakistan cricket can tell you that Younis khan is extremely temperamental and totally unfit for a job like this. I can't understand what this board is thinking as they keep taking inexplicable decisions one after the other!

Misbah/Waqar/Younis - how bad can this get???

 

[Snowflake]

I agree that Younus's appointment is a big risk because for all his brilliance as a batsman, he is mentally not all ok. He shows moments of unbeliveable rage at things that any rational person wouldn't be remotely angry about.

Putting that all to one side, what exactly is Misbah's job here? Fast bowling has been handed to Waqar. Spin to Mushtaq and now batting to Younus. Misbah doesn't have any high level coaching skills so what exactly will he be doing on this tour?

You hit the nail on its head with that first paragraph. Younis reacts to trivial stuff like it's a matter of life and death. He is weird weird dude! I just don't understand how PCB can take this decision - do they not do any kind of background assessment or research?

Regarding Misbah - his role is just like the one he played in our ODI team. Do the easy job of just being present and letting the others do the meaningful work. I always thought that a cricketer would love it if he got assigned Misbah's role. Go out there and block the heck out of everything. RR doesn't matter as others are there to take care of it. Play out the full 50 overs and come out a hero after scoring 60 from 100 balls. Same in coaching now, we've got scapegoats for every skill that the teams come up short on while this guy can sit back and wait for the odd win to take credit

 

[sshakir411]

How the hell can folks who support Misbah as coach not support Younis? What’s the logic here? What does Misbah have that will have a bigger impact on the team? A friggin MBA? Because a masters in business will surely help the players better.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

From the top of my head:

2007 World Cup: refused to take over as captain after Inzamam at the last minute

2009: oath-gate

2010: gets banned for life by Ijaz Butt.

2013: threw a tantrum after getting dropped from the ODI squad even though he didn’t score a hundred since 2008 and was averaging 23.

2014/15: threw a vicious tantrum when the selectors told him that he wasn’t in the plans for the 2015 World Cup. He did a Miandad 1996 and forced himself into the squad only to fail miserably.

2017: retired from Tests when PCB didn’t accept his demand of taking over as captain after Misbah.

2018: he was invited for a coaching program but he went back when he found out that the PCB didn’t arrange a VIP suite for him.

This doesn’t include the incident where he beat up a fan in 2009.

Meanwhile during all these years, he has referred to himself in third person.

You forgot beating a fan and literally going on a fishing trip which made him skip the 2010 tour to Australia. His excuse being that his feeings were hurt because a stupid senator called him a fixer

 

[Mamoon]

You forgot beating a fan and literally going on a fishing trip which made him skip the 2010 tour to Australia. His excuse being that his feeings were hurt because a stupid senator called him a fixer

I mentioned beating the fan in 2009 in the second last line.

Skipping the Australian tour in 2009-10 was his greatest stunt though, and a major reason why he was banned for life by Ijaz Butt.

 

[daytrader]

Younis Khan recently "What a befitting and bitter truth spoken by Shoaib Akhtar! It takes a backbone to be simply uncompromisingly forthright. Time for Pakistan Cricket Board to honestly evaluate his remarks for the betterment of Pakistan cricket and its players. I stand by with Shoaib Akhtar"

Younis Khan also turned down Pakistan Cricket Board's invitation to be a special guest during the second Test against Sri Lanka at the National Stadium last December.

I'm sure there will be more incidents.

I guess everything must be rosy in PCB's garden for YK now though.

Its actually a testament to the character that Misbah is and the respect he commands that even fickle personalities like YK are willing to work under him