"Your days in cricket are well over... Stick to your dirty politics" : Waqar Younis to Najam Sethi

[Abdullah719]

"Your days in cricket are well over... Stick to your dirty politics" : Waqar Younis to Najam Sethi

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Safaarshii tola Look who’s talking..Kamal karta ho aap be <a href="https://twitter.com/najamsethi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@najamsethi</a> sb..Kuch be bolta rahta ho <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dabang?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dabang</a> of <a href="https://twitter.com/pcb?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@pcb</a> Your days in cricket are well over dear..Stick to your dirty politics. <a href="https://t.co/tkHrkHvkHg">pic.twitter.com/tkHrkHvkHg</a></p>— Waqar Younis (@waqyounis99) <a href="https://twitter.com/waqyounis99/status/1069518825970896898?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Abdullah719]

Mohsin Hassan Khan used to bad mouth Wasim Akram, now sitting with him: Najam Sethi

Former PCB chairman Najam Sethi has claimed that former head coach Mohsin Hassan Khan used to badmouth former captain Wasim Akram but now he is quite happy to interact with him.

In an exclusive interview with SAMAA’s Naeem Ashraf Butt, Sethi said that Khan used to be critical of the former Pakistan captain for the last eight years. “So, he means to say that the current PCB chief has cleared up all misunderstandings that he had about ‘tainted cricketers’ for years?” he said.

Mohsin and Akram are part of the PCB’s seven-member cricket committee.

Sethi said that when he first joined the PCB, Khan had approached him. “He asked me to make him the national selector or national team coach.” Sethi said. But when Sethi asked for feedback on Khan, everyone advised against it, saying he had been tried and tested. They advised me to get someone new for the post, he said.

‘Rashid Lateef wanted to be head of PCB's anti-corruption unit’

Sethi revealed that when he was first made the chairman in 2013, he called Rashid Lateef and asked him to work with him. I told him, “Rashid come, let’s tackle this corruption.” The former chairman said he also offered Lateef the post of chief selector. But he insisted on being made the head of anti-corruption.

I was told by some PCB officials that Lateef was close to Danish Kaneria, who was convicted of match fixing, he added. “He insisted on being appointed as the anti-corruption head and said that the case against Danish Kaneria was a fraud. But see, now even he [Danish] has accepted wrongdoing.”

‘I wanted to resign as PCB chief’

Sethi said he had initially regretted his decision of accepting the role of PCB chief. I even requested the then prime minister to let me go, he said. His detractors alleged that Sethi had been given the post as a kickback for playing what they said was some role in alleged rigging during the 2013 elections in Punjab. He was the caretaker Punjab chief minister during the 2013 elections.

'I was advised against hiring Waqar Younis'

People who had worked with him advised me against bringing Waqar Younus back, but I did, Sethi went on to say. His performance was not up to the mark and he later started speaking against me, he said. “I don’t what I have done wrong by him; I was the one who brought him.”

https://www.samaa.tv/sports/2018/12...wasim-akram-now-sitting-with-him-najam-sethi/

 

[MenInG]

All coming out now.

 

[aukhan]

Ironic coming from Waqar younis.

Say whatever you want about Najam sethi but he was far better than any chairman we had in last 10 years.

Our ex-cricketers are double faced hypocrites. All his statements regarding our ex-cricketers are correct.

 

[Snowflake]

Political differences aside, in my opinion, Sethi has backed all the right people and the ones who are against him have only done damage to Pakistan cricket (I.e. Waqar, Mohsin Khan)

Totally with Sethi on this one.

 

[fawad_wellwisher]

Immature of Waqar to engage with him out in the open on twitter. That he was an ordinary coach is evident to anyone with a keen cricketing eye.

 

[wasimjunior]

Nobody seems to like Waqar or get along with him. Common denominator perhaps ?

 

[DRsohail]

sethi is right.

 

[TM Riddle]

Waqar needs to work on his Urdu writing skills in Roman script.

 

[Suleiman]

This whole board is a mess. IK or whoever the sports minister is should dissolve this sorry excuse of a "professional" cricket board, and start from scratch.

What is this nonsense, airing dirty laundry in public. All these things are done behind closed doors.

Whole cricketing world will leave us behind otherwise, one champions trophy surrounded by mediocre performances elsewhere is not enough. Before I get called for being pessimist or wrist slitter, am the true patriot wanting best for my country and my country's history-rich cricket team.

 

[Sirris]

Seems like Waqar is bitter over something.

 

[Hasan123]

Unnecessary comments from Waqar. Clearly they have an issue.

 

[Slog]

Have to say that it is pretty ironic to see Najam Sethi of all people taking shots at someone for a nepotistic appointment

 

[topspin]

Although I'm not a fan of Sethi, Waqar was an incompetent coach and tactically clueless who had a preference for an ultra defensive brand of batting. Along with Misbah, he was also equally to blame for Pakistan's demise in ODIs.

The same guy tried to apply for the Aussie bowling coach role only to be left red faced because they knew he was useless.

But with PCB holding lower standards as per usual, they didn't give him one but two stints as head coach. In fact the signs were already there that he was going to be nothing short of a tactical failure when he was captain during the 2003 WC.

After having Australia 4 down with double digit runs, his shambolic captaincy allowed Aussies to score a match winning total. He has always been hot headed and poor in temperament, epitomised by the beamer he bowled to Symonds because he didn't want to bowl or take any further responsibility. He may have been an ATG bowler but he choked when it mattered the most in WCs (96 & 03) but as a leader, coach and tactician he was a quitter when the going went tough and a utterly clueless.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

It was immature of both parties to display each other’s dirty laundry in public. What good will come out of all this?

 

[Plumb]

When you sitting on the throne everything is fine as you get kicked out all the issues 'll be spilled. Currently PCB kept Mohsin quiet wait when he gets kicked out all sorts of stories 'll be out. This is the Recycle bin(PCB), seeing it for years and will continue to see.

 

[MenInG]

I would really like PCB contracts to have a Non Disclosure type clause and a prohibition to share any confidential stuff after leaving office or position as a PCB employee for atleast 5 years.

 

[msb314]

As always - Waqar is in the wrong.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

This was bound to happen after all that happened in the last few years.

 

[Rana]

Not sure why Sethi had to publically humiliate Waqar Younis. The guy knows he’s a failure coach. He’s down, stop kicking him!

 

[Hawkeye]

Sethi saying the right things.

Did the right things too.

Very very competent cricket administrator. Though made some blunders like relations with BCCI and IND.

But, still better than anyone else we had.

If you hate him, you're just biased.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Apart from a very few ex-cricketers who are doing well for Pak cricket even after their retirement, the others are just bad!

Wish there were more ex-cricketers like Mudassar Nazar. Kaam zada, batain kam!

 

[Usman Chadda]

I'm more interested in how Rashid Latif responds to these allegations

 

[MenInG]

I'm more interested in how Rashid Latif responds to these allegations

hardly any allegations - more of a conversation

 

[Usman Chadda]

hardly any allegations - more of a conversation

I picked up something between the lines there, or maybe it's just me. Sethi is too smart to mention someone without an ulterior motive.

 

[Savak]

Strange, Waqar had a bitter fall out with Sethi after he was sacked as coach but was always smiling and laughing with him in pictures during the PSL

 

[octavian]

It's the hardest thing in Pakistan cricket to get everyone to agree on something.

But looks like everyone agrees that Waqar Younis is not a good person to have anyway near Pakistan cricket.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Best chairman we have ever had.

 

[Greenstorm]

Sethi said nothing wrong in that clip. He only exposed our bitter ex cricketers.

 

[Sirris]

I would really like PCB contracts to have a Non Disclosure type clause and a prohibition to share any confidential stuff after leaving office or position as a PCB employee for atleast 5 years.

Then how are they supposed to earn their bread and butter once they are kicked out.... eh I mean respectfully resign from their position.

 

[Saj]

Nobody seems to like Waqar or get along with him. Common denominator perhaps ?

Many players that he played alongside and coached liked him.

He got on very well with good professionals like Misbah-ul-Haq.

 

[Savak]

Many players that he played alongside and coached liked him.

He got on very well with good professionals like Misbah-ul-Haq.

Or Yes Men perhaps.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Although I'm not a fan of Sethi, Waqar was an incompetent coach and tactically clueless who had a preference for an ultra defensive brand of batting. Along with Misbah, he was also equally to blame for Pakistan's demise in ODIs.

The same guy tried to apply for the Aussie bowling coach role only to be left red faced because they knew he was useless.

But with PCB holding lower standards as per usual, they didn't give him one but two stints as head coach. In fact the signs were already there that he was going to be nothing short of a tactical failure when he was captain during the 2003 WC.

After having Australia 4 down with double digit runs, his shambolic captaincy allowed Aussies to score a match winning total. He has always been hot headed and poor in temperament, epitomised by the beamer he bowled to Symonds because he didn't want to bowl or take any further responsibility. He may have been an ATG bowler but he choked when it mattered the most in WCs (96 & 03) but as a leader, coach and tactician he was a quitter when the going went tough and a utterly clueless.

This is a spot-on post and totally encapsulates what I would say with regards to Waqar as a coach/tactician.

Well said.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I'm not condoning Waqar's knee-jerk reaction but this is hardly the way for an ex-chairman to behave. Why would you come out and bad-mouth the people you worked with? And if you really do care about the future of the PCB why would you come out and make statements about the current administration when you know very well that it takes time to for changes and reforms to bear fruit. Sorry but I fail to see a point behind Sethi airing his dirty laundry besides $$$

 

[topspin]

Or Yes Men perhaps.

They were all yes men like Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq. Umar Akmal after a decent run away leg of tours was dropped after given just 1 test in UAE to accommodate his favourite student (Shafiq).

U.Akmal hasn't done himself any favours with his antics whatsoever, but for me this was the turning point in his career and the beginning of a downward spiral for him. Whatever anyone thinks of chota Akmal just remember Waqar would have destroyed anyone who wouldn't be aligned with his philosophy of ultra defensive style of batting.

He was the type of coach who would punish players for playing shots and expressing their talent.

He and Misbah have inhibited many batsmen especially during the darkest era of LOI cricket for Pakistan. Good riddance and hope never to see him coach Pakistan ever again.

 

[topspin]

Many players that he played alongside and coached liked him.

He got on very well with good professionals like Misbah-ul-Haq.

It's one thing to be liked by a group of softies in the side but another in an environment where players are given the freedom to express their opinions and challenge such poor ideas coming from a tactically inept, clueless coach that Waqar Younis was.

 

[Savak]

They were all yes men like Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq. Umar Akmal after a decent run away leg of tours was dropped after given just 1 test in UAE to accommodate his favourite student (Shafiq).

U.Akmal hasn't done himself any favours with his antics whatsoever, but for me this was the turning point in his career and the beginning of a downward spiral for him. Whatever anyone thinks of chota Akmal just remember Waqar would have destroyed anyone who wouldn't be aligned with his philosophy of ultra defensive style of batting.

He was the type of coach who would punish players for playing shots and expressing their talent.

He and Misbah have inhibited many batsmen especially during the darkest era of LOI cricket for Pakistan. Good riddance and hope never to see him coach Pakistan ever again.

The legacy they have left is a Pakistan team which is getting broadcast deals of $10-15 million whereas India's Broadcast deals are worth $500 million plus even though both countries have a sizeable market for cricket. Why would the broadcasters want to see batsmen like Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq, Misbah e.t.c.

 

[Saj]

It's one thing to be liked by a group of softies in the side but another in an environment where players are given the freedom to express their opinions and challenge such poor ideas coming from a tactically inept, clueless coach that Waqar Younis was.

The players who did not by and large get on with Waqar Younis were - Umar Akmal, Shahid Afridi and Ahmed Shehzad.

No need to say any more really.

 

[topspin]

The players who did not by and large get on with Waqar Younis were - Umar Akmal, Shahid Afridi and Ahmed Shehzad.

No need to say any more really.

Waqar was never known for player management. His captaincy days (especially during the 2003 WC) and his relationship with a nice (but not a yes man) Wasim Akram tells a more revealing picture when he himself said he has regrets over the strained relationship he had experienced.

Also Waqar Younis was the same guy during Kumble's 10fer innings, who told Wasim Akram that one of them should try to get out to the other bowler to stop him from getting that 10 wicket haul - a request Wasim correctly refused.

The same guy bowled beamers to Symonds because he was a hot headed individual himself, so decided to give up just like that.

Imagine what kind of coach he was when he's still having problems with all these other players?

Although I'm not a fan, Hafeez also had issues over Waqar's coaching methods as well.

 

[Plumb]

Waqar is a top coach only for the reason that he realized soon enough that UA can't achieve anything in life except eating grapes on twitter ..later sour grapes

 

[Markhor]

No love lost between Sethi and Waqar - Waqar probably thinks Sethi leaked his now famous report. However Waqar was not the Pep Guardiola of Cricket his fans made him out to be. He was a tactically inept captain with zero man management skills which was reflected in TWO failed coaching tenures so Sethi is correct that his performance was not up to the mark.

Despite being a legendary fast bowler, our ODI bowling stats were statistically amongst the WORST between the 2015 WC and the end of Waqar's tenure. Not surprising as he showed excess favouritism to Wahab Riaz, and failed to groom young pacers, instead recycling Mohammad Sami, Anwar Ali, Sohail Tanvir, Mohammad Irfan and Bilawal Bhatti.

There was zero planning in terms of strategy or building a core group of talent. You can say what you like about Mickey Arthur but at least he keeps a consistent group of 13-14 names whereas under Waqar would just wing it series-by-series. He gave debut to 39 year old Rifatullah Mohmand proving he had no eye for talent and thought it was a good idea to open with Bilal Asif at one point !

He left a huge mess in ODIs (crowning achivement was the 2015 Banglawash) and T20Is which Mickey Arthur is still cleaning up, left tottering at #9 and #7 in the rankings. We crashed out of 2016 Asia Cup and 2016 WT20 group stages in dismal fashion - worsened by Waqar's tactical blunders such as playing FOUR pacers on a SQUARE turner in Kolkata vs India. Test team was stable but everyone knows that was Misbah's baby - hence why even under cheerleader Mohsin we whitewashed England in 2012.

His fans cry he never had any power or influence - which was the stated reason why he resigned as coach the first time in 2011. If that's the case (which I doubt given his stature as an ex-player) then why take the coaching job a SECOND time in 2014 ?

 

[IMMY69]

Nothing wrong with Waqar at all.

I’ll back him 1000pct. Why? Because the bloke truly cares for Pakistan cricket.
So you can call him tactically inept and this may even true but he had good intentions.

He tried his best when you had kings like Afridi trying to rule the roost along with his minions like Akmal and Shehzad...

Sethi on the other hand should take the blame for everything.
A chairman appointed by a corrupt leader who he supported and helped get into power deserves nothing but condemnation.

I don’t want anyone who disagrees with me reply because I will not reply to you.

E N D

 

[IMMY69]

Waqar is a top coach only for the reason that he realized soon enough that UA can't achieve anything in life except eating grapes on twitter ..later sour grapes

He deserves a a knighthood just for this one act.

 

[gazza619]

Just watched the video clip and it appeared to be an honest interview. Waqar’s reaction was OTT

 

[Junaids]

I don’t know anything about Pakistan politics and I don’t want to.

But I will say this.

Waqar Younis was a fairly good coach who was stuck with an excessively conservative geriatric skipper.

But Najam Sethi was a cartoon caricature of a bumbling Pakistani crony-executive. His handling of the BCCI case was devastatingly inept - he and his lawyers knew whether the contracts were good enough or not - and they turn out to have been a complete joke.

Sethi’s incompetent handling of the BCCI, including and especially the case against it, should see him banned for life from the slightest contact with the PCB. He shouldn’t even be allowed in a stadium.

 

[Mamoon]

I don’t know anything about Pakistan politics and I don’t want to.

But I will say this.

Waqar Younis was a fairly good coach who was stuck with an excessively conservative geriatric skipper.

But Najam Sethi was a cartoon caricature of a bumbling Pakistani crony-executive. His handling of the BCCI case was devastatingly inept - he and his lawyers knew whether the contracts were good enough or not - and they turn out to have been a complete joke.

Sethi’s incompetent handling of the BCCI, including and especially the case against it, should see him banned for life from the slightest contact with the PCB. He shouldn’t even be allowed in a stadium.

A tactically inept captain will also be a tactically inept coach. Anyone who has seen Waqar’s awful captaincy would understand that projecting his failures as coach on Misbah is pointless.

In fact, his only success as coach came in the UAE Tests which was all down to Misbah, and he was conveniently removed from his post when our overseas cycle began in 2016.

 

[Stewie]

Learn to respect your legends,... and not the dirty politicians!

I would prefer an honest sportsman despite his shortcomings as player or coach over the dirty rotten politicians of Pakistan who have ruined everything about Pakistan including cricket..

 

[aukhan]

I'm more interested in how Rashid Latif responds to these allegations

Rashid defended Karenia so many times on TV. Rashid's image has been brutally damaged now. If we was made head of Anti corruption unit, he surely would have tried to help kaneria in his fight with ECB.

Rashid turned out to be another Karachite who is too blinded with city bias.

 

[aukhan]

Learn to respect your legends,... and not the dirty politicians!

I would prefer an honest sportsman despite his shortcomings as player or coach over the dirty rotten politicians of Pakistan who have ruined everything about Pakistan including cricket..

This honest sportsmen was convicted in Justice Qayum report.