Your views on virtual monopoly of the major ICC tournaments by the BIG THREE past present and future

[gishy]

Looking at the recent and future hosts makes interesting reading for the BIG THREE...


T20 World Cup:

2016 India
2018 TBA
2020 Australia


Champions Trophy:

2013 England
2017 England


World Cup:

2011 India (along with Sri Lanka, Bangladesh)
2015 Australia
2019 England
2023 India


We are seeing something similar elsewhere too with the BRIC nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China) and Qatar all dominating the big world wide events such as the Olympics and Football World Cup and the World Athletics (mini Olympics)...


Brazil 2014 Football World Cup
Brazil 2016 Olympics

China 2008 Olympics
China 2015 World Athletics Championships
China 2022 Winter Olympics

India 2019 Commonwealth Games

Russia 2013 World Athletics Championships
Russia 2014 Winter Olympics
Russia 2018 Football World Cup

Qatar 2022 Football World Cup
Qatar 2019 World Athletics Championships

 

[gishy]

There was a time when each sporting event had it's own style, the crowds, weather and atmosphere all give the event an individual flavour.

 

[gishy]

I can't see the pattern changing much in the future either.

 

[ahmedzee]

I agree with OP. Nowhere do I see South Africa, West Indies, UAE, NZ as a host nation. Yes NZ shared the 2015 WC, but what about Champions Trophy and T20 WC.
Appalling that UAE is not even getting any major ICC tournament. Only thing it got was the U19 WC.

South Africa last hosted a major ICC event in 2009.

 

[Ozymandiasza]

Looking at the recent and future hosts makes interesting reading for the BIG THREE...


T20 World Cup:

2016 India
2018 TBA
2020 Australia


Champions Trophy:

2013 England
2017 England


World Cup:

2011 India (along with Sri Lanka, Bangladesh)
2015 Australia
2019 England
2023 India


We are seeing something similar elsewhere too with the BRIC nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China) and Qatar all dominating the big world wide events such as the Olympics and Football World Cup and the World Athletics (mini Olympics)...


Brazil 2014 Football World Cup
Brazil 2016 Olympics

China 2008 Olympics
China 2015 World Athletics Championships
China 2022 Winter Olympics

India 2019 Commonwealth Games

Russia 2013 World Athletics Championships
Russia 2014 Winter Olympics
Russia 2018 Football World Cup

Qatar 2022 Football World Cup
Qatar 2019 World Athletics Championships

It's actually BRICS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS), if we're referring to the same thing.

 

[Titan24]

Looking at the recent and future hosts makes interesting reading for the BIG THREE...


T20 World Cup:

2016 India
2018 TBA
2020 Australia


Champions Trophy:

2013 England
2017 England


World Cup:

2011 India (along with Sri Lanka, Bangladesh)
2015 Australia
2019 England
2023 India


We are seeing something similar elsewhere too with the BRIC nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China) and Qatar all dominating the big world wide events such as the Olympics and Football World Cup and the World Athletics (mini Olympics)...


Brazil 2014 Football World Cup
Brazil 2016 Olympics

China 2008 Olympics
China 2015 World Athletics Championships
China 2022 Winter Olympics

India 2019 Commonwealth Games

Russia 2013 World Athletics Championships
Russia 2014 Winter Olympics
Russia 2018 Football World Cup

Qatar 2022 Football World Cup
Qatar 2019 World Athletics Championships

May be its because of the timings of the matches, like tourument in westindies would result in a lot of matches at the night time here in subcontinent and thus hampering major share.

Although tournument can be managed in South Africa.

 

[HitWicket]

I agree with OP. Nowhere do I see South Africa, West Indies, UAE, NZ as a host nation. Yes NZ shared the 2015 WC, but what about Champions Trophy and T20 WC.
Appalling that UAE is not even getting any major ICC tournament. Only thing it got was the U19 WC.

South Africa last hosted a major ICC event in 2009.

Hosting a major ICC event in the UAE and therefore giving them automatic qualification would be ridiculous. South Africa have been barred from hosting events in recent years by their government but I believe that bars been recently lifted.

 

[Ozymandiasza]

Hosting a major ICC event in the UAE and therefore giving them automatic qualification would be ridiculous. South Africa have been barred from hosting events in recent years by their government but I believe that bars been recently lifted.

That is correct, we were barred last year and it was lifted recently (a week ago?). It affected our rugby the most as it was a close call with submitting out bid to host the rugby WC.

In saying that, we did host the 2010 soccer WC. So it's not as if we haven't had a major event recently.

 

[Rana]

UAE is just a risk for an ICC event. There are only 3 venues for a possible 16 teams. Also, its not necessarily a home advantage for Pakistan if thats one of the reasons why we are a bit dissapointed for this.

 

[Rana]

India and South Africa are very good venues tbh for ICC events

 

[czar]

Lol @ UAE. Pata nahi Pakistani fans ko UAE se etni mohabbat Kyu hai. Such boring pitches and dull atmosphere, better to hold a tournament in West Indies than UAE.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

Lol, apart from champions trophy other events are cyclic, why didn't you pick 2014 , 12 or 10 venue. Regarding world cup there is a policy that every third world cup will be held in Asia . Asia don't mean India.
Lanka , India, Pak and Bangladesh will host there group matches and other matches will be divided between them . Final will be alternate between India and Pak, example 96 world cup final was in Pak and 2011 in India .
Because of terrorism Pak matches are divided between India and Lanka and final will again be alloted to India.
Similarly Australia world cup was joint venture with NZ hosting lot of matches and 1 semi and 2 quater finals . Hell NZ even hosted their group match against Australia in NZ.

 

[czar]

Australia /NZ aren't allotted ICC tournaments in equal proportion compared to other Nations because the match timings in Australia /NZ arent viable for Asian fans who are the primary target of Cricket.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

South Africa was barred by their government before that they hosted 3 major icc events in 6 years.

 

[czar]

IMO India, SA, England and Australia/NZ should be fixed contenders for Cricket World Cups with a proper rotation policy.

India is a continent in itself with World Class venues spread all across the diverse parts of the Country, I don't see why all or majority of the matches of WC ( allotted to Asia) shouldn't be held in India.

 

[gishy]

It's actually BRICS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS), if we're referring to the same thing.

Yes, you're right. I was referring to the pre-2010 definition.

 

[gishy]

The fact India hosted the 2011 World Cup and then suddenly got the 2023 too is shocking. They leapfrogged over several nations who haven't hosted it for years. Two cricket world cups...the showpiece event within a decade basically should raise eyebrows.

Previous editions of the sub continent world cup meant Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan were also given matches. That's what made it fun.

Now it's like they have simply said we are too rich and powerful...we don't need the rest and we will host everything ourselves.

The arrogance, greed and selfishness is breathtaking.

 

[gishy]

Lol, apart from champions trophy other events are cyclic, why didn't you pick 2014 , 12 or 10 venue. Regarding world cup there is a policy that every third world cup will be held in Asia . Asia don't mean India.
Lanka , India, Pak and Bangladesh will host there group matches and other matches will be divided between them . Final will be alternate between India and Pak, example 96 world cup final was in Pak and 2011 in India .
Because of terrorism Pak matches are divided between India and Lanka and final will again be alloted to India.
Similarly Australia world cup was joint venture with NZ hosting lot of matches and 1 semi and 2 quater finals . Hell NZ even hosted their group match against Australia in NZ.

The 2023 World Cup is to be hosted by INDIA and nobody else. In case you don't understand what that means....all of the matches will be played in India.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

[MENTION=143628]gishy[/MENTION] first it was three countries , are there any new updates?

 

[gishy]

[MENTION=143628]gishy[/MENTION] first it was three countries , are there any new updates?

The 2023 ICC Cricket World Cup is scheduled to be hosted by India. India was selected as the host at an International Cricket Council (ICC) meeting in London in June 2013.[1] This will be the 13th Cricket World Cup competition, and the fourth time that India will be the host. The event will mark the first time that India will host the tournament on its own, after having co-hosted three previous World Cup tournaments in 1987 (with Pakistan), 1996 (with Pakistan and Sri Lanka) and 2011 (with Sri Lanka and Bangladesh).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Cricket_World_Cup

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

Ok I checked, it is India alone , but there is lot of time left we never knew what will change in between .
It happens, remember there was time period of 15 years where India hosted only 1 Icc event and Australia hosted no big ICC events for 23 odd years.

 

[gishy]

Ok I checked, it is India alone , but there is lot of time left we never knew what will change in between .
It happens, remember there was time period of 15 years where India hosted only 1 Icc event and Australia hosted no big ICC events for 23 odd years.

Maybe check before commenting next time...

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

[MENTION=143628]gishy[/MENTION] May be you should wait before forming new theories, it was Australia, England and India turn to host , just like 2010, 12 and 14 world cup was hosted in WI, Bangladesh and Lanka.

 

[gishy]

[MENTION=143628]gishy[/MENTION] May be you should wait before forming new theories, it was Australia, England and India turn to host , just like 2010, 12 and 14 world cup was hosted in WI, Bangladesh and Lanka.

You do realise that the World T20 is not the World Cup don't you?

 

[Sidilicious]

The fact is that the only team other than the big 3, which can hold the WC all by itself is SA.

SL and Bangladesh are too small to host a 45 day tournament by themselves. WI held one in 2007 and we saw how poor it was. So really, only India, SA, Australia, England and Pakistan can hold a World Cup by themselves. Pakistan is out of question due to terrorism. Most probably SA will get the 2027 WC. Also SLCB faced a huge financial crisis because they hosted the World Cup in 2011.

As for SL and Bang, I reckon they will be part of the hosting committee next time the WC comes to India. Same with NZ, when the WC comes to Australia. Also, just to add did you notice that the T20 Cup has never been held in Australia.

IMHO, CT and T20 cup should be hosted in all countries, leaving only these 4 countries to host a long WC. The other countries such as SL and Bang could host the WC as join host every other time the WC is in Asia. Once things improve in Pak, a WC should also be held there.

 

[gishy]

What about one in the middle east?

Dubai, Sharjah, Abu Dhabi, Bahrain, Oman all have decent grounds

 

[Sidilicious]

What about one in the middle east?

Dubai, Sharjah, Abu Dhabi, Bahrain, Oman all have decent grounds

No host ODI nation. Giving one of these a permanent spot in the WC does not make sense. Can never be a main host country.

 

[BeautifulGame]

What about one in the middle east?

Dubai, Sharjah, Abu Dhabi, Bahrain, Oman all have decent grounds

No one wants to play or watch world cup in Middle east.

They are not a cricketing country.Boring crowds , rubbish pitches and most of all they don't even have a decent cricket team in the first place.

As for India hosting seperately the 2023 ,why shouldn't they? In the past ,2011, India used to share because Srilanka and Bangladesh didn't have infrastructure on their own to host a 50 world cup hence it was shared .Now to compensate for that they have been given T20 world cups .

 

[Brodipet_baadshah]

Why 50 overs WC concerned timeperiod selectively started frm 2011 but not world t20?

 

[gishy]

No host ODI nation. Giving one of these a permanent spot in the WC does not make sense. Can never be a main host country.

The host nation doesn't need to be ODI nation.

Football World Cup has previously been held in USA and Japan/South Korea and soon Qatar.

None on these countries were leading football nations but were awarded the hosts due to financial reasons.

Same would apply to a middle east cricket world cup.

 

[gishy]

No one wants to play or watch world cup in Middle east.

They are not a cricketing country.Boring crowds , rubbish pitches and most of all they don't even have a decent cricket team in the first place.

As for India hosting seperately the 2023 ,why shouldn't they? In the past ,2011, India used to share because Srilanka and Bangladesh didn't have infrastructure on their own to host a 50 world cup hence it was shared .Now to compensate for that they have been given T20 world cups .

PSL games and International matches held in the Middle east in the past have been extremely popular. Crowds were jam packed at Sharjah and Dubai back in the day.

 

[Brodipet_baadshah]

Middleeast cricket board ever bidded for world cup hosting rights? If yes, why were dey not awarded?

 

[HitWicket]

PSL games and International matches held in the Middle east in the past have been extremely popular. Crowds were jam packed at Sharjah and Dubai back in the day.

And nowadays the crowds have tended to be shockingly poor. Naturally the hosts have to be a participator in the tournament which would mean giving a space to the UAE who aren't good enough.

 

[gishy]

And nowadays the crowds have tended to be shockingly poor. Naturally the hosts have to be a participator in the tournament which would mean giving a space to the UAE who aren't good enough.

UAE as a participant wouldn't be a bad thing, they played in previous 50 over tournaments and with their team dominated by Indians and Pakistanis I'm sure they would have appeal and support. All of the locations mentioned as well some others are already visited regularly by foreigners for work or holidays so security wouldn't be an issue.

In the same way the Copa America Football was held in USA despite it being for South Americans, the location can be arranged if it's financially sensible.

Cricket in the UAE as a one-off world cup could be a idea. After all the under 19 world cup was held there recently, the ICC base is there I believe and matches are played all the time. It would be like the PSL but on a grander, national scale.