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I heard him on few videos , God knows if he even reference Quran chapter right or wrong...he is surviving on uneducated group of people and bragging about Islam as the only true religion and everything else is wrong..this guy just disgust me and I am just shocked to see him moving freely from one country to another....what you say? In Pakistan, seems like he is highly regarded...

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/opinion/20-Mar-2015/dr-zakir-naik-s-tragedy
 
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I remember debating my Muslim roommate about him. He stopped talking to me for a few days after hearing my views on Zakir Naik.
 
Zakir managed to convert many non-muslims to islam in India.

In India, If you are jobless, you can always become a Baba, Guru or a televangelist. There will be no scarcity of subscribers to these preachers.
 
He is a hero among gullible people. Personally not a fan
 
I don't know anything about him except his 2+2=5 argument, which I came to know from here.
 
Lurker_Ind said:
Zakir managed to convert many non-muslims to islam in India.

In India, If you are jobless, you can always become a Baba, Guru or a televangelist. There will be no scarcity of subscribers to these preachers.
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Then we should raise our hats to their enterprise. Better than being jobless.
 
He's good at what he does, but he's not a scholar, He himself admits this, but if you watch his debate with William cambell and other christian speakers he has more knowledge of the bible than the christian speakers.
 
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He's good at what he does, but he's not a scholar, He himself admits this, but if you watch his debate with William cambell and other christian speakers he has more knowledge of the bible than the christian speakers.
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Actually he has more knowledge of the Bible than many Christians and more knowledge of Vedas than most Brahmins TILL someone dissects his arguments to see how much of it is truth and how much of it is blatant misrepresentation. Issue is that by the time someone does it, the debate would be long over and everyone would be back home. :))

Zaki Naik is a bit charismatic. I will give it to him. I can see why he is so successful in converting people.

He is also virtually impossible to defeat in debates but NOT because he is the epitome of reason and possesses ground breaking logic/context combo but because he has the brain of a super computer and a mind that works 24/7 in twisting every piece of information out there to suit his agenda.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Actually he has more knowledge of the Bible than many Christians and more knowledge of Vedas than most Brahmins TILL someone dissects his arguments to see how much of it is truth and how much of it is blatant misrepresentation. Issue is that by the time someone does it, the debate would be long over and everyone would be back home. :))

Zaki Naik is a bit charismatic. I will give it to him. I can see why he is so successful in converting people.

He is also virtually impossible to defeat in debates but NOT because he is the epitome of reason and possesses ground breaking logic/context combo but because he has the brain of a super computer and a mind that works 24/7 in twisting every piece of information out there to suit his agenda.
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people can judge for themselves.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Actually he has more knowledge of the Bible than many Christians and more knowledge of Vedas than most Brahmins TILL someone dissects his arguments to see how much of it is truth and how much of it is blatant misrepresentation. Issue is that by the time someone does it, the debate would be long over and everyone would be back home. :))

Zaki Naik is a bit charismatic. I will give it to him. I can see why he is so successful in converting people.

He is also virtually impossible to defeat in debates but NOT because he is the epitome of reason and possesses ground breaking logic/context combo but because he has the brain of a super computer and a mind that works 24/7 in twisting every piece of information out there to suit his agenda.
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this is the correct response.

Let's be honest, his looks aside, he's very charismatic, not just a little.

He's impossible to beat in a debate because he understands on a very advanced level the fundamentals of conversing. His tactics are pretty manipulative and he avoids questions head-on A LOT.

His favourite tactic seems to be using the "pressure flip". Which is basically where you ask me if I'm a loser and I start talking about how you play video games all day instead of addressing your question. He does this but with religion. Something like "Ok tell me how blah blah blah is any better" and people start laughing.

That's just one tactic I used as an example, it's tough to explain but he's a MASTER at this stuff. One can really learn a lot about how modern day debates work from watching him and apply it to their own lives.

I personally dislike him.
 
My family used to like watching him until a certain day when they realised he's not the right person to be listening to when it comes to Islam so my views are the same as most people on this thread.
 
CRicfan why don't you go and debate him, no good writing essays on him and refuting him on the web when he's only 5 mins drive away from you in mumbai, You can take your other buddy with you to record so you can put it on youtube and expose him.
 
He's a bigot. Unfortunate that he has become the de facto South Asian face of Islam.
 
He's a top lad alongside moulana tariq jameel


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I used to be amazed by his debates. He seems totally solid and unbeatable. But he has a lot of charisma and linguistic prowess over his debaters and the poor people that come up to the mic in packed houses of his fans. Someone told me that alot of the people that convert in his videos is fake and not genuine. Idk if that's true but what I have heard.

As far as being amazed by him, I was initially but then some of my other friends told me how their religion does not actually say or mean what he is saying in his argument and so I am no longer wowed by him because he is not disclosing proper information.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Actually he has more knowledge of the Bible than many Christians and more knowledge of Vedas than most Brahmins TILL someone dissects his arguments to see how much of it is truth and how much of it is blatant misrepresentation. Issue is that by the time someone does it, the debate would be long over and everyone would be back home. :))

Zaki Naik is a bit charismatic. I will give it to him. I can see why he is so successful in converting people.

He is also virtually impossible to defeat in debates but NOT because he is the epitome of reason and possesses ground breaking logic/context combo but because he has the brain of a super computer and a mind that works 24/7 in twisting every piece of information out there to suit his agenda.
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Exactly this is what I have come to find, sorry I should have quoted this with my earlier post.
 
the guy is a joke. i remember listening to him about how buddha himself was a muslim or something. i turned it off right there and never listened to him again.
 
Alizai said:
He's a top lad alongside moulana tariq jameel
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Agreed, Sir Zakir Naik is one of the few people to defend Islam. No wonder non-moslems and Liberals hate Zakir Naik. The intellectuals are attacked to divide the people. As the saying goes Divided we fall and united we stand.
 
Mashallah some brothers in these corrupt times understand the sahih truth


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I dont like him I don't like this style of public trial of religion...but what I read here from Pakistani and Indian posters they all didn't read about religion themselves or listened to him but only hating him because hey heard it from someone that what he is teaching is not true.


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I dont find him any different than someone like Nityananda or most of the nandas all over India preaching something but the only difference is that his aim to convert people to follow Islam.

But this guy has talent for sure. He read all the books interpreted the way he wants and presents the interpretation that looks authentic on face of it. secondly he doesnt give the chance to the arguer for a further debate or the party challenging him is pretty weak themselves as they have not read all the books.

The only arguement in the modern day should be "show me the god now, right now right here in the way I want to see him and the same form/formless should be visible to others at the same time" else dont waste your and my time and get on with our respective business :) LoL
 
CricFan007 said:
I heard him on few videos and I found that he is full of BS, God knows if he even reference Quran chapter right or wrong...he is surviving on uneducated group of people and bragging about Islam as the only true religion and everything else is wrong..this guy just disgust me and I am just shocked to see him moving freely from one country to another....what you say? In Pakistan, seems like he is highly regarded...

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/opinion/20-Mar-2015/dr-zakir-naik-s-tragedy
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The references he gives can be checked.

You are wrong , a lot of learned people follow him.

Most of his lectures are in English , uneducated people would not be able to follow.
 
Lurker_Ind said:
Zakir managed to convert many non-muslims to islam in India.

In India, If you are jobless, you can always become a Baba, Guru or a televangelist. There will be no scarcity of subscribers to these preachers.
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He was jobless ?
 
The man is a blessing in disguise for everyone on earth. He is very easy to understand and makes a lot of sense.

One of my Hindu/ Indian friends entire family were so impressed by his speeches that the whole family bar one member reverted to Islam.
 
classic said:
The man is a blessing in disguise for everyone on earth. He is very easy to understand and makes a lot of sense.

One of my Hindu/ Indian friends entire family were so impressed by his speeches that the whole family bar one member reverted to Islam.
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Were they muslims before?
 
Zakir Naik is not bad orator , he is also good with comparative religions.

As far his knowledge of Islam is concerned its not that deep. One person cannot know everything , its not possible.

The Muslims started getting against him after he added Radhiallah ( may allah bless him ) with Yazeed bin Muawiyah.

He also misquoted a Bukhari Hadeeth to proof yazeed was jannati . This was a big blunder , he should have apologized , but his ego did not allow him. Still today some salafis uphold that view.
 
I can guarantee you had he faced ramanna maharishi or osho, they would have beaten him,even acharya dharmendra can not only match him in debate or even defeat him.
 
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Fair play to him. Very knowlegeable guy & I have nothing against him.
 
Every time he talks, all I hear is something along the lines of Book 957581, Volume 274747, Chapter 6826669, Page 163825, Verse 43134829, Word 484619, Letter 174829...
 
Nostalgic said:
Every time he talks, all I hear is something along the lines of Book 957581, Volume 274747, Chapter 6826669, Page 163825, Verse 43134829, Word 484619, Letter 174829...
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What is wrong with that ?

If you do not show reference , how will people check later on ? Just trust blindly ?
 
Justcrazy said:
What is wrong with that ?

If you do not show reference , how will people check later on ? Just trust blindly ?
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There is no shortage of people who really will trust blindly.

Also, do people check later on? The impression I get from his audience is that they are too much in awe of the fact that he's dishing out the references to actually check the references.
 
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There is no shortage of people who really will trust blindly.

Also, do people check later on? The impression I get from his audience is that they are too much in awe of the fact that he's dishing out the references to actually check the references.
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That's not his fault, people should double check themselves.
 
Instead of finding or proving GOD through religion texts, He should have written GOD equation. An equation which defines GOD, may be inside Higgs Boson or some other "to be discovered" particle hidden. The ONE unified equation that governs the entire universe and the solving the unknown variable would be the GOD declassified. He wasted his life in this specially given the talent he has.

Religious texts will have 100s and 1000s of interpretation and it will be unconvincing. Its just blind faith without any proof.
 
Religion itself can be depressing, what's worse is people who compare religions and feel good about it.
 
I had a lot of respect for Zakir Naik but that has changed over the years. One of his main attributes is how he compares Islam and Science and I have seen time and again how he gets science wrong. He has fantastic knowledge on Quran and Hadith however and should be credited for that. I once went to a talk of his and the crowd was quite well educated and when cross questioned I felt his answers were not strong enough.
 
As I mentioned 90% of the crowd comes there based on curiosity, he is speaking in english because his target audience is not people seating there but people who watch him world wide.

Why would he brag about Islan in front of Muslim, he is talking to non-muslim so he has to talk in english..so don't think his followers are educated. ( There can be few %, looks like you are one of them! :) )

Justcrazy said:
The references he gives can be checked.

You are wrong , a lot of learned people follow him.

Most of his lectures are in English , uneducated people would not be able to follow.
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Justcrazy said:
What is wrong with that ?

If you do not show reference , how will people check later on ? Just trust blindly ?
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Please check tons of videos available to prove what types of blunders he makes when he refer those chapter etc. only thing he is good at in arguing with the challenger...and he goes to the lowest level to win the argument..like one poster mentioned in his post here..regarding Sania Mirza example..he goes to cheap level such as " why she wears anything?" that's very cheap and low level of thinking...
 
proud_pakistani said:
I had a lot of respect for Zakir Naik but that has changed over the years. One of his main attributes is how he compares Islam and Science and I have seen time and again how he gets science wrong. He has fantastic knowledge on Quran and Hadith however and should be credited for that. I once went to a talk of his and the crowd was quite well educated and when cross questioned I felt his answers were not strong enough.
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He ja best for the Unenlightened and uneducated. Or the naive and immature

I was a big fan of his till class 8 or so.
 
At least he has knowledge of most of the religious books and his speech consists on reference to those books and not on his personal opinion or bias. He himself says if anyone is convinced by Quran references its good enough,he is not here to give his own opinion on Islam.


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CricFan007 said:
As I mentioned 90% of the crowd comes there based on curiosity, he is speaking in english because his target audience is not people seating there but people who watch him world wide.

Why would he brag about Islan in front of Muslim, he is talking to non-muslim so he has to talk in english..so don't think his followers are educated. ( There can be few %, looks like you are one of them! :) )
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You said that we do not know whether references that he gives are right or wrong . They can be checked .

He speaks mostly in English because he is not good in Indian Languages , and when he speaks , he makes some mistakes.

PS : I am not a follower of anyone , these scholars do not get revelations . You can see above I myself pointed out to a huge mistake of naik regarding Yazeed bin Muawiyah.
 
CricFan007 said:
Please check tons of videos available to prove what types of blunders he makes when he refer those chapter etc. only thing he is good at in arguing with the challenger...and he goes to the lowest level to win the argument..like one poster mentioned in his post here..regarding Sania Mirza example..he goes to cheap level such as " why she wears anything?" that's very cheap and low level of thinking...
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Brother , he is a human , we all make mistakes .

You cannot multiply mistakes by zero and say a person is useless.

If he says wrong on some point , he is wrong on that point , not everything.
 
Used to love him as a kid he was celebrated a lot by family members the way he used to debate and challenge Christian Hindu debaters and use their own scriptures against them . But as some of have said his praise of Yazid has lost him support amongst a lot of mainstream Desi Muslims. Also older i have got i just see him as a guy who is very good at manipulating words and has a superb memory. But his belittling attitude towards other religions is something i dont agree with. Also his refusal to agree with evolution because "its a theory not a fact". His use of vague Quranic verses to prove The Quran revealed the Big Bang Theory 1400 years ago yet i wonder why no Muslim physicist discovered it.

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Adil_94 said:
Used to love him as a kid he was celebrated a lot by family members the way he used to debate and challenge Christian Hindu debaters and use their own scriptures against them . But as some of have said his praise of Yazid has lost him support amongst a lot of mainstream Desi Muslims. Also older i have got i just see him as a guy who is very good at manipulating words and has a superb memory. But his belittling attitude towards other religions is something i dont agree with. Also his refusal to agree with evolution because "its a theory not a fact". His use of vague Quranic verses to prove The Quran revealed the Big Bang Theory 1400 years ago yet i wonder why no Muslim physicist discovered it.

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Most Muslims don't believe in evolution...it is afterall a theory.
 
in_cutter said:
Most Muslims don't believe in evolution...it is afterall a theory.
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Its a theory that has tons of evidence to support it and has consensus amongst the scientific community . The reason it is deemed a theory because possibly in the future there could be new evidence that comes to light that alters our understanding of evolution. In science the paradigm of knowledge shifts there is always experiments and research going on. As opposed to religion where statements is made about how this is the unquestionable truth for all eternity. Out of all the theories about how life came about on Earth evolution is the one that makes sense the most. Much more than creationism story which is just a fairytale.

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Most Muslims don't believe in evolution...it is afterall a theory.
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Much more believable than what any religion ever comes up with.Somehow God has miraculously shown up in last 4500 years for different religions, can't believe people don't question that at all,was he/she waiting for last 200,000 years(Mankind) for us learn to read and write???
 
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Its a theory that has tons of evidence to support it and has consensus amongst the scientific community . The reason it is deemed a theory because possibly in the future there could be new evidence that comes to light that alters our understanding of evolution. In science the paradigm of knowledge shifts there is always experiments and research going on. As opposed to religion where statements is made about how this is the unquestionable truth for all eternity. Out of all the theories about how life came about on Earth evolution is the one that makes sense the most. Much more than creationism story which is just a fairytale.

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Somehow i always agree with you on this subject every single time.
 
IIRC he was follower of Sheikh Ahmed Deedat of South Africa. After listening to some of Deedat lectures Zakir left practicing as a doctor and turned more towards religion. He copy most of Deedat style.
 
JaDed said:
Much more believable than what any religion ever comes up with.Somehow God has miraculously shown up in last 4500 years for different religions, can't believe people don't question that at all,was he/she waiting for last 200,000 years(Mankind) for us learn to read and write???
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The same Zakir Naik belittles people who ask him about Islam and evolution. Saying evolution is just a theory and if it is true why isn't it called the evolutionary fact. But then uses Quranic verses to show how The Big Bang theory was already revealed in the Quran. When after all that using his logic the Big Bang theory is just that a theory it isn't the Big Bang fact.


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Adil_94 said:
The same Zakir Naik belittles people who ask him about Islam and evolution. Saying evolution is just a theory and if it is true why isn't it called the evolutionary fact. But then uses Quranic verses to show how The Big Bang theory was already revealed in the Quran. When after all that using his logic the Big Bang theory is just that a theory it isn't the Big Bang fact.


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everyone should watch that video when kid ask him question about evolution and how pathetic display of behavior he showed...whatever respect anyone have left for him will be gone after seeing that video...
 
Adil_94 said:
Used to love him as a kid he was celebrated a lot by family members the way he used to debate and challenge Christian Hindu debaters and use their own scriptures against them . But as some of have said his praise of Yazid has lost him support amongst a lot of mainstream Desi Muslims. Also older i have got i just see him as a guy who is very good at manipulating words and has a superb memory. But his belittling attitude towards other religions is something i dont agree with. Also his refusal to agree with evolution because "its a theory not a fact". His use of vague Quranic verses to prove The Quran revealed the Big Bang Theory 1400 years ago yet i wonder why no Muslim physicist discovered it.

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Its not about praising Yazeed Bin Muawiyah , its about making a blunder and saying yazeed fits a Hadeeth in bukhari which says a particular group will be in Paradise.
 
Why do people dislike zakir naik so much ?

I have realised one thing on this forum, it is that most of the people don"t like naik..... but why ?
 
Perhaps he is the only indian which all pakistanis love....
 
He is terrible to listen to. His Hindi-Urdu is even worse then a five year old kid's! Those high pants give me the creeps where as his preaching seems to be about attacking other faiths more then propagating Islam. No need to compare Islam to other faiths when preaching the world of Allah leaving a bad taste in the mouth. Leaders of other faiths can surely speak for themselves. That "every Muslim should be a terrorist" shows how stupid this man is. This humiliated man spoke against the creation of Pakistan and has now been banned from entering his own country:warner. Then are many more intelligent preachers like Tahir-ul-Qadri, Yusuf Estes and late Dr Israr Ahmed amongst others who know far more then he does.
 
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Just because he has memorised many verses from various Holy books does not mean he understands them. His preaching only appeals to a certain group of people who will agree with everything he says. Even many Muslim's disagree with many if not all his comments.
 
Musakhel said:
He has helped convert many Hindus to Islam, no point hating him.
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No one is hating him. Many if not most of those converts end up returning to Hinduism after a while. His way of preaching is wrong.
 
I remember he once commentating on Sania Mirza's tennis attire something along the lines of 'rankings in tennis might improve but what about her ranking in front of the almighty'?

Been fan since.
 
PakLFC said:
Just because he has memorised many verses from various Holy books does not mean he understands them. His preaching only appeals to a certain group of people who will agree with everything he says. Even many Muslim's disagree with many if not all his comments.
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Can you tell me one single Muslim scholar now , with whom everyone agrees ?
 
PakLFC said:
Tahir-ul-Qadri, Yusuf Estes and late Dr Israr Ahmed amongst others who know far more then he does.
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I will show you clips from lectures of Israr Ahmed and Tahir Qadri , will you able to defend them ?
 
Justcrazy said:
I will show you clips from lectures of Israr Ahmed and Tahir Qadri , will you able to defend them ?
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These two are by and large much more respected then the annoying Zakir Naik.
 
PakLFC said:
These two are by and large much more respected then the annoying Zakir Naik.
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You probably don't like him because he is Indian, Arabs have great respect for naik, they fund his Dawah and gave him asylum recantly, Qadri on the other hand says one thing in front of europeans and preaches Modern Islam whatever that is to them and says other things when he is in Pakistan.
 
I was shown his videos when I was younger as everyone in the community admired him and his youtube videos. But as I got older and began to see world differently I started to dislike him and people his ilk like Tariq Jameel. That's not because they are spreading word of god, but because they have so much influence and following within the younger generation.
 
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