Zohran Mamdani elected as New York’s first Muslim mayor [Update@ Post#160]

[JaDed]

Overall ( and this isn't directed at you btw just an overall point), I find there is a bit of a hypocricy with western captalism. Most countries seem ok with quite socialist-style policies when they’re used to bail out banks or large corporations, but start calling people commies and want to wait for market forces to react, when the same logic is applied to assisting poorer people.

Honestly companies were allowed to fail before, this modern crony capitalism is the issue, esp since 2008, worst part is not only govn bailed banks out they gave them money so there is no money crunch for borrowing.

They did same with airlines too, which has reduced competition in US.

I checked on when these things started happening without an opposition and it seems after 9/11 for airlines and before that it was 1932 lol.. so Us did well until 2001.

 

[HalBass9]

Oh I have no problem with him trying his ideas and New Yorkers wanting them. They're the same old ones that have been proved not to work but sure go ahead.

The issue is that pragmatism seems to have gone completely out of politics in the USA. Everyone is on ideological / personality driven crusades that have nothing to do with what actually works. At least in India, we still have that. I dislike Modi intensely but would probably vote for the BJP if there was an immediate election because I like their economic plans better than the alternatives offered.

Affordability and fair taxing isn't pragmatic politics?

 

[KingKhanWC]

He will arrest Modi where and under which charge?

lol if you’re aiming to get British citizenship, learning to read will help .

I wrote he said he will arrest Netanyahu who has an arrest warrant internationally. Many world leaders in the west also said the same .

You love modi so much , you’re on a permanent visitor visa in Uk lol

 

[KingKhanWC]

You should proud of what Pakistani exports - LET, JEM , Hizbul CEO

Those are selected by bosses .

New York mayor is selected by the people .

Over a million New Yorkers wouldn’t vote for Kash Patel unless they were meth dealers

 

[Red-Indian]

Overall ( and this isn't directed at you btw just an overall point), I find there is a bit of a hypocricy with western captalism. Most countries seem ok with quite socialist-style policies when they’re used to bail out banks or large corporations, but start calling people commies and want to wait for market forces to react, when the same logic is applied to assisting poorer people.

Not taking it personally but of course there is hypocrisy. Everyone's looking out for their own interests.

If you ignore the loudest Twitter shills, most mainstream economists are now not totally at one extreme or the other i.e. not laissez faire but not commies either. They recognise the need for government intervention and regulation but see the limits of it. Where you fall on the spectrum is what matters.

For example, the specific issue you quote. Not everyone who wanted to save the large banks was a hypocrite. Whether we like it or not, some banks are too big to fail. Not only would the few fat cats at the top suffer, a lot of regular folks would suffer as well. There were some left of centre economists who swallowed their bile and agreed bailouts of these greedy institutions just as are were some right of centre economists who support stuff like economic assistance programs. The debate is on design.

 

[Varun]

lol if you’re aiming to get British citizenship, learning to read will help .

I wrote he said he will arrest Netanyahu who has an arrest warrant internationally. Many world leaders in the west also said the same .

You love modi so much , you’re on a permanent visitor visa in Uk lol

All these years chanting God save the Queen/King and the only thing that has happened is a longer list of Muslim countries being bombed.

 

[globetrotter]

Pakistani posters, irrespective of the topic, first discussion is about Modi. Abbu ka naam kabhi nehi bhoolte.

Modi has been India's PM since 2014. How much you guys tried to throw caricature...what is the net result? He is still the PM and only growing strong.

Here is the thing - you cant beat Modi. He is not only a person but an ideology. An ideology of selfless nationalist with nothing to lose. How can you beat such leader? You simply can't. Waise koshish jaari rakho. Trump also tried recently but ended up with egg on face.

Many liberals thinks that Mamdani....

Will liberate Palestine.
Will defeat Israel
Will built army and attack Washington DC

But nothing like this gonna happens as hez just a mayor of city who has no powers

 

[IMMY69]

His parents were born in British India, migrated to Tanzania and he was born in Uganda.

Is he of Indian origin, yes he is but then so are also many pakpassioners here whose parents were born in British India

 

[JaDed]

Many liberals thinks that Mamdani....

Will liberate Palestine.
Will defeat Israel
Will built army and attack Washington DC

But nothing like this gonna happens as hez just a mayor of city who has no powers

Lol no one thinks that, he is just one politician against Zionist Corporations and MAGA..everyone hoping for some change and movement for Rich paying their fair share… nothing wrong in corporations being taxed.

 

[HalBass9]

Many liberals thinks that Mamdani....

Will liberate Palestine.
Will defeat Israel
Will built army and attack Washington DC

But nothing like this gonna happens as hez just a mayor of city who has no powers

Nah, only Indians back in India think that. The people of New York City elected him as mayor, not President of the United States. This is NYC, not some BJP run municipal town in India.

 

[Red-Indian]

Affordability and fair taxing isn't pragmatic politics?

It's not if you do it in isolation. A country raising it is one thing. There's a lot of friction to companies and individuals changing domicile across countries. Large corporations will still do it and escape the net but a lot of the target can't and therefore increasing taxes will yield a decent chunk of increased revenue.

At a state/city level, it's very low friction. Companies and individuals will escape the net very easily and you'll realise only a tiny fraction of the revenue you anticipate.

Even affordability can't be looked at it isolation. Much as a city mayor may not like it, the question for me is not whether New York is affordable but are there affordable, practical alternatives for individuals? Plus policies like Rent Freezes are proved failures.

 

[JaDed]

His parents were born in British India, migrated to Tanzania and he was born in Uganda.

Is he of Indian origin, yes he is but then so are also many pakpassioners here whose parents were born in British India

His mother was born in India of present (1957) with Punjabi roots.. if anything his dad is similar to Pakistani Pakpassion or lets say Amla the cricketer..

His mother has been actively making Indian centred movies and was even educated in Delhi Uni with one even being nominated for oscar..

 

[KingKhanWC]

All these years chanting God save the Queen/King and the only thing that has happened is a longer list of Muslim countries being bombed.

All these years and still no visa ?

Mandamis family left India to Africa and then to USA to finally make a success of their lives , maybe it will for too but until then keep crying about British Muslims , its great comedy

 

[JaDed]

It's not if you do it in isolation. A country raising it is one thing. There's a lot of friction to companies and individuals changing domicile across countries. Large corporations will still do it and escape the net but a lot of the target can't and therefore increasing taxes will yield a decent chunk of increased revenue.

At a state/city level, it's very low friction. Companies and individuals will escape the net very easily and you'll realise only a tiny fraction of the revenue you anticipate.

Even affordability can't be looked at it isolation. Much as a city mayor may not like it, the question for me is not whether New York is affordable but are there affordable, practical alternatives for individuals? Plus policies like Rent Freezes are proved failures.

All of that is true but as you said in isolation it won’t make a difference but the same logic applies to him making NYC socialist will not make a difference overall.. if anything with rich moving their money out it might help balance the scale that is required for that city which is massively unaffordable for citizens that grew up there.

 

[Rajdeep]

All these years and still no visa ?

Mandamis family left India to Africa and then to USA to finally make a success of their lives , maybe it will for too but until then keep crying about British Muslims , its great comedy

Varun lives in India. Why would he need visa?

Also why are you so worried about others immigration status? Anjem Chaudhary also had valid UK residency. That didnt made him British, isnt it? So how much you try, you will forever be a Pakistani and an outsider.

Gussa mat hona...honest opinion.

 

[Patriot]

The thing about rich leaving or moving out is that someone else fills the gap. Even in a scenario where a big corporation leaves a market, someone else will move in to make money by filling that vacuum. Money isn’t going to be leaving NY. It might take time to recover if there is mass movement but the city will recover.

 

[HalBass9]

It's not if you do it in isolation. A country raising it is one thing. There's a lot of friction to companies and individuals changing domicile across countries. Large corporations will still do it and escape the net but a lot of the target can't and therefore increasing taxes will yield a decent chunk of increased revenue.

At a state/city level, it's very low friction. Companies and individuals will escape the net very easily and you'll realise only a tiny fraction of the revenue you anticipate.

Even affordability can't be looked at it isolation. Much as a city mayor may not like it, the question for me is not whether New York is affordable but are there affordable, practical alternatives for individuals? Plus policies like Rent Freezes are proved failures.

You’re looking at this election in isolation. NYC isn’t just another town, it’s New York City. When major cities speak collectively through their votes, it sends ripples across the country.

I don’t expect Zohran’s journey to be easy, but something clearly had to change, and people voted for that hope. This shift will shape US politics for generations, which is exactly what makes the wealthy fear an empowered middle and working class.

Politics in America is no longer just Democrats vs Republicans, it’s become a struggle between classes. Trump didn’t create that divide, but he certainly amplified it. Look at the small towns he flipped, if Republicans succeed in taking away healthcare, they’ll lose the very voters they think they’ve secured.

This tension is only going to grow, we’re watching the early stages of a national class conflict unfold.

 

[Patriot]

They are also now stopping coupons, including working families who rely on these. It means parents having to skip meals.

 

[JaDed]

The thing about rich leaving or moving out is that someone else fills the gap. Even in a scenario where a big corporation leaves a market, someone else will move in to make money by filling that vacuum. Money isn’t going to be leaving NY. It might take time to recover if there is mass movement but the city will recover.

That might happen in US coz there are so many corporations, this model is not to be tried in smaller countries ..

Example even without the high corporate taxes in NY, JP Morgan is now already heavily invested in Dallas area due to better corporate taxes, Dallas right now can take such policies due to its size and population, NYC can’t.. so the balance of moving entities hopefully happens..but i doubt such corporations can be replaced 1:1 due to history.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Varun lives in India. Why would he need visa?

Also why are you so worried about others immigration status? Anjem Chaudhary also had valid UK residency. That didnt made him British, isnt it? So how much you try, you will forever be a Pakistani and an outsider.

Gussa mat hona chacha ji...honest opinion.

From an Indian visitor in uk who thinks the far right like him this is an expected brain wave . Maybe you’re related but mr India varun occasionally pipes up but for years he wanted out , just like you .

I assume you think visiting uk makes you as British as Prince Andrew . Indians like you and varun should learn from a great man like mandami , his family left Gujrat where modi killed women and kids , now loved by people of all backgrounds in New York . But you modi fans are just as dumb as he is

 

[KingKhanWC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1985731665692442719

Oh dear Zionist god missed this

 

[Theanonymousone]

Exactly, woke politics doesn’t work. People care about rent, feeding their kids, schooling, etc.

I’m also skeptical with some of his policies but people are being priced out and can’t afford things in New York, supposedly the greatest city in the world so some change needs to happen. Also, the Mayor does not control all the different taxes people have to pay, as some are state taxes signed off by the Governor.

I wish Mamdani the best as a lot of people are hopeful but I have the same feeling in the back of my mind as Obama. A lot of people were hopeful when Obama won, but did he really achieve much? Also, politicians over promise and under deliver.

If RaGa can be atleast half as smart as Mamdani, India would have a strong opposition party, which is very essential for a democracy to run.

I dont think Mamdani has showed any traits of Islamic extremism. He may not like Modi and he may have given statements which he is entitled to. But he displayed good secular traits TBH. Hope he puts some good work without going into the communist way, which will never work in the US. I heard, NYC has 48% non-US born diaspora. So, atleast as a city Mayor, he represents the most people I feel rather than another right wing extremist.

I think Mumbai also needs some ground reality where the South Mumbai has completely priced out common public.

 

[HalBass9]

If RaGa can be atleast half as smart as Mamdani, India would have a strong opposition party, which is very essential for a democracy to run.

I dont think Mamdani has showed any traits of Islamic extremism. He may not like Modi and he may have given statements which he is entitled to. But he displayed good secular traits TBH. Hope he puts some good work without going into the communist way, which will never work in the US. I heard, NYC has 48% non-US born diaspora. So, atleast as a city Mayor, he represents the most people I feel rather than another right wing extremist.

I think Mumbai also needs some ground reality where the South Mumbai has completely priced out common public.

This is perhaps the most important point people are overlooking. He may not succeed entirely, but the US desperately needs a healthy opposition to the oligarchy entrenched in both parties.

Mamdani hasn’t shown any traits of far right extremism, if he had, he wouldn’t have been elected. This is New York City, not a small town in Gujarat.

 

[Theanonymousone]

Overall ( and this isn't directed at you btw just an overall point), I find there is a bit of a hypocricy with western captalism. Most countries seem ok with quite socialist-style policies when they’re used to bail out banks or large corporations, but start calling people commies and want to wait for market forces to react, when the same logic is applied to assisting poorer people.

Western democracies until few years ago found a good way to balance socialism and capitalism. Like in the US, if you see the history, they always took turns with a cycle of capitalist mandate being elected and then turning to socialist mandate.

But economic slowdown and immigration put a lot of strain on their budgets increasing people on welfare. I may be harsh but many communities in the US from black, hispanic etc rely on social welfare with a sense of entitlement. They would have sailed through if the economy was good but the slow down caused the burning issues to come to the forefront.

Bail-outs happen only for those structurally important corporations meaning they are so integrated into the economy that their collapse would mean triggering the whole economic downturn. Even India has 3 banks (2 private and 1 public bank) listed under this category. Market forces if left alone would be good but governments try to meddle in a wrong way - look at Turkey, Pakistan, Venezuela’s inflation crisis. Its more of a mismanaged corruption than a case of ideology.