‘Captain matters a lot to the team’: How Virat Kohli factor influenced appointment of new selectors

[MenInG]

Indian cricket hinges around captain Virat Kohli and perhaps every decision which is taken has Kohli’s influence over it. Hence, it is no surprise that the CAC wanted to know the views of the applicants for the post of new selectors on working in tandem with Virat Kohli at the helm of affairs. Madan Lal told PTI that both Sunil Joshi and Harvinder Singh had the “best answers” on this particular topic. “We have this factor the most in our mind. Our captain is a high performing player. We have kept it in mind that we find somebody who can communicate with him, because in the end it is the captain, who has to run the team.

“Captain matters a lot to the team and so it is important on how you communicate with him. What is gone is in the past, the two selectors that we picked had the best answers on this topic.”

Former India left-arm spinner, Sunil Joshi was chosen chief cricket selector to succeed ex-India stumper MSK Prasad for the post on Wednesday with Cricket Advisory Committee (CAC) having stressed on the ability to communicate well with the India team management in its selections.

Former India pacer, Harvinder Singh, was the other selector chosen from a shortlist that included ex-India pacer Venkatesh Prasad and leg-spinner L Sivaramakrishnan.

Joshi, 49, played 15 Tests and 69 ODIs between 1996 and 2001 while Harvinder—he replaces Gagan Khoda—has played three Tests and 16 ODIs. The representatives of south and central zones respectively will join current panel members Jatin Paranjpe (west), Devang Gandhi (east) and Sarandeep Singh (north).

Joshi is best remembered for his spell of 10/6/6/5 in an ODI against South Africa. “I deem it an honour and privilege to serve our beloved country again and would like to thank the CAC for considering me,” he told Hindustan Times.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...w-selectors/story-AhfIgbJNl30u36uMbgHmnO.html

 

[shah_1]

They just want a dummy chief selector

 

[Junaids]

I wrote in another thread that when I delved into Kohli’s education, it turned out that this was a person who scored 3 marks out of 100 in a Grade 9 Maths exam.

Kohli is the best batsman that Asia has ever produced.

But his academic record backs up my increasing suspicions that his intelligence appears to be only just above the subnormal range, and that he is incapable of identifying what goes wrong outside Asia in Tests, let alone fixing it.

Worse still, the victory over a demoralised and under strength Australian team who had just lost to Bilal Asif has probably had the disastrous effect of convincing Kohli that things are going well and don’t require major changes.

The more I watch his captaincy, the more I question his basic level of intelligence. And I don’t think he’s actually fit to captain a team at any level.

But if they give him Yes-Men selectors the problems will not change at all, let alone improve.

 

[Mamoon]

I wrote in another thread that when I delved into Kohli’s education, it turned out that this was a person who scored 3 marks out of 100 in a Grade 9 Maths exam.

Kohli is the best batsman that Asia has ever produced.

But his academic record backs up my increasing suspicions that his intelligence appears to be only just above the subnormal range, and that he is incapable of identifying what goes wrong outside Asia in Tests, let alone fixing it.

Worse still, the victory over a demoralised and under strength Australian team who had just lost to Bilal Asif has probably had the disastrous effect of convincing Kohli that things are going well and don’t require major changes.

The more I watch his captaincy, the more I question his basic level of intelligence. And I don’t think he’s actually fit to captain a team at any level.

But if they give him Yes-Men selectors the problems will not change at all, let alone improve.

I once scored 27/100 in a grade 7 maths exam. By this logic, I should have never been admitted into medical school.

In the other thread, you talked about Imran Khan’s PPE degree at Oxford, but he got into Oxford on sports quota and was known as “Im the Dim” by his classmates because of his shambolic performance in the classroom.

Your arguments to undermine Kohli’s construction of the most prolific Test team in Asian history are bordering on ridicule now.

The way Kohli speaks and the way he has established himself as Asia’s greatest batsman of all time exhibits the fact that he is fairly intelligent. A maths exam in school, which probably did not interest him and he did not prepare for it, does not reflect his cognitive abilities.

Some of the greatest minds in history were not great in school, let alone an athlete.

 

[MenInG]

I once scored 27/100 in a grade 7 maths exam. By this logic, I should have never been admitted into medical school.

In the other thread, you talked about Imran Khan’s PPE degree at Oxford, but he got into Oxford on sports quota and was known as “Im the Dim” by his classmates because of his shambolic performance in the classroom.

Your arguments to undermine Kohli’s construction of the most prolific Test team in Asian history are bordering on ridicule now.

The way Kohli speaks and the way he has established himself as Asia’s greatest batsman of all time exhibits the fact that he is fairly intelligent. A maths exam in school, which probably did not interest him and he did not prepare for it, does not reflect his cognitive abilities.

Some of the greatest minds in history were not great in school, let alone an athlete.

Love to see which school he went to. [School to avoid]

 

[Mamoon]

Love to see which school he went to. [School to avoid]

I know this is Kohli bashing season, and an opportunity for people to release their bottled up frustrations over his and India’s success, but he is actually quite articulate which reflects his intelligence.

Unfortunately, he is abusive and it has little do with his schooling and more to do with the Delhi culture. In general, people from Delhi cannot string together two sentences without using expletives.

 

[Junaids]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

27/100 in Maths implies laziness or poor preparation to be honest.

3/100 implies both of those things, but superimposed upon the IQ of a vegetable.

I myself acknowledged that Imran was lucky to get into Oxford (connections more than sport though) but at least he completed his degree and learned how to think.

Kohli has a formula for winning in Asia and a formula for losing outside Asia. And his comments this week show that he neither understands the problem nor has a strategy to correct it.

As I keep saying, you and I could both make this Indian team really hard to beat in SENA. Kohli clearly doesn’t have the intelligence to work out how to do it.

He’s a great batsman. But he’s a terrible thinker.

 

[Junaids]

I know this is Kohli bashing season, and an opportunity for people to release their bottled up frustrations over his and India’s success, but he is actually quite articulate which reflects his intelligence.

Unfortunately, he is abusive and it has little do with his schooling and more to do with the Delhi culture. In general, people from Delhi cannot string together two sentences without using expletives.

Go back 14 months.

When India won in Australia I started the thread congratulating them on the greatest achievement in Asian cricket history. Check it out!

I’m not Pakistani. These threads are riddled with me making comments congratulating Delhi Police in their anti-corruption prowess and making inflammatory comments in which I make it clear that I disrespect Pakistan’s politics and history and to be honest like my father - who was born in Dacca - I regret Partition.

I don’t like how the BCCI misuses it’s power for its own gain instead of the best interests of cricket. And I don’t like that India disrespect overseas Test cricket. But that’s all!

 

[MenInG]

I know this is Kohli bashing season, and an opportunity for people to release their bottled up frustrations over his and India’s success, but he is actually quite articulate which reflects his intelligence.

Unfortunately, he is abusive and it has little do with his schooling and more to do with the Delhi culture. In general, people from Delhi cannot string together two sentences without using expletives.

One who shouts expletives at the first sign of problems ranks low in my book, more so if a captain of the team.

 

[Mamoon]

One who shouts expletives at the first sign of problems ranks low in my book, more so if a captain of the team.

Don’t worry, Pakistan does not appear to have the capacity to produce a player and a leader of his caliber.

Be happy with Misbah type gentlemen leaders who lose with a smile on their face and praise the opposition.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Don’t worry, Pakistan does not appear to have the capacity to produce a player and a leader of his caliber.

Be happy with Misbah type gentlemen leaders who lose with a smile on their face and praise the opposition.

But that was not the point of his post. Seems the current Kohli bashing season is making you more insecure than Kohli himself

 

[MenInG]

Don’t worry, Pakistan does not appear to have the capacity to produce a player and a leader of his caliber.

Be happy with Misbah type gentlemen leaders who lose with a smile on their face and praise the opposition.

My value system Alhamdolillah does not revolve around success at every cost. Good luck with yours.

 

[Mamoon]

[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

I do not have to go back 14 months, because I can go back 4 posts. You downplay India’s win in Australia because they had a weakened batting lineup that was floored by Bilal Asif.

However, you conveniently ignore the fact that the same weakened Australian side would still whitewash teams all other Asian sides at home.

Australia still had their first-choice pace attack, but they were clearly not good enough to dismiss the Indian batsmen on home pitches.

Furthermore, what is the max threshold of a vegetable IQ and what is the minimum threshold of laziness and poor preparation?

What scale have used to justify your conclusions?

 

[Junaids]

[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

I do not have to go back 14 months, because I can go back 4 posts. You downplay India’s win in Australia because they had a weakened batting lineup that was floored by Bilal Asif.

However, you conveniently ignore the fact that the same weakened Australian side would still whitewash teams all other Asian sides at home.

Australia still had their first-choice pace attack, but they were clearly not good enough to dismiss the Indian batsmen on home pitches.

Furthermore, what is the max threshold of a vegetable IQ and what is the minimum threshold of laziness and poor preparation?

What scale have used to justify your conclusions?

In terms of losing to Bilal Asif, I don’t claim that ANY current Asian team is special. But by the same token I don’t think Kohli’s team leaves a legacy at all, because 16 Test defeats in 27 SENA matches is disqualifying.

In terms of intellect, sure you got 27/100 in in one maths exam but you have proven yourself down the years and you make lucid and credible arguments, even when I disagree with you.

Kohli achieved nothing at school apart from ridiculous failures like 3/100 in maths. And it fits in with a man who can’t identify simple, easily fixable faults in his team and strategy, who carries on like a pork chop on the field and who can’t answer simple questions at press conferences without attacking the journalist who dares to do his job.

His profane outburst at Christchurch came after his team took a wicket! This man clearly hasn’t got the brains to think.

 

[silentkiller187]

Don’t worry, Pakistan does not appear to have the capacity to produce a player and a leader of his caliber.

Be happy with Misbah type gentlemen leaders who lose with a smile on their face and praise the opposition.

i thought this was a thread discussing Kohli not Misbah Bashing??

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Without Kohli no one will actually watch India play, he is the only superstar in world cricket.

 

[pillionrider]

I wrote in another thread that when I delved into Kohli’s education, it turned out that this was a person who scored 3 marks out of 100 in a Grade 9 Maths exam.

Kohli is the best batsman that Asia has ever produced.

But his academic record backs up my increasing suspicions that his intelligence appears to be only just above the subnormal range, and that he is incapable of identifying what goes wrong outside Asia in Tests, let alone fixing it.

Of all your posts, this must rank as one of the most sub-intelligent ones.

Linking academic performance with cricketing acumen

Tendulkar failed his 10th boards. I don't think he bothered to clear them. You can question Kohli and Tendulkar's captaincy credentials. But linking that with academic failures is plain obtuse.

And I bothered to post this because I myself know about how much a person's intelligence is linked to school-level mathematics. I failed my ICSE Maths prelims (pre-board exams) badly and 2 months later went on to score 98, just through some decent preparation during the study holidays. That's how hard, school-level Maths is....

 

[big_gamer007]

I wrote in another thread that when I delved into Kohli’s education, it turned out that this was a person who scored 3 marks out of 100 in a Grade 9 Maths exam.

Kohli is the best batsman that Asia has ever produced.

But his academic record backs up my increasing suspicions that his intelligence appears to be only just above the subnormal range, and that he is incapable of identifying what goes wrong outside Asia in Tests, let alone fixing it.

Worse still, the victory over a demoralised and under strength Australian team who had just lost to Bilal Asif has probably had the disastrous effect of convincing Kohli that things are going well and don’t require major changes.

The more I watch his captaincy, the more I question his basic level of intelligence. And I don’t think he’s actually fit to captain a team at any level.

But if they give him Yes-Men selectors the problems will not change at all, let alone improve.

Hahaha you are a gem!!

 

[MenInG]

i thought this was a thread discussing Kohli not Misbah Bashing??

I believe Misbah is Pakistani.

 

[Rana]

In terms of losing to Bilal Asif, I don’t claim that ANY current Asian team is special. But by the same token I don’t think Kohli’s team leaves a legacy at all, because 16 Test defeats in 27 SENA matches is disqualifying.

In terms of intellect, sure you got 27/100 in in one maths exam but you have proven yourself down the years and you make lucid and credible arguments, even when I disagree with you.

Kohli achieved nothing at school apart from ridiculous failures like 3/100 in maths. And it fits in with a man who can’t identify simple, easily fixable faults in his team and strategy, who carries on like a pork chop on the field and who can’t answer simple questions at press conferences without attacking the journalist who dares to do his job.

His profane outburst at Christchurch came after his team took a wicket! This man clearly hasn’t got the brains to think.

Top post

But 27/100 is signs of the future.

 

[Mamoon]

In terms of losing to Bilal Asif, I don’t claim that ANY current Asian team is special. But by the same token I don’t think Kohli’s team leaves a legacy at all, because 16 Test defeats in 27 SENA matches is disqualifying.

In terms of intellect, sure you got 27/100 in in one maths exam but you have proven yourself down the years and you make lucid and credible arguments, even when I disagree with you.

Kohli achieved nothing at school apart from ridiculous failures like 3/100 in maths. And it fits in with a man who can’t identify simple, easily fixable faults in his team and strategy, who carries on like a pork chop on the field and who can’t answer simple questions at press conferences without attacking the journalist who dares to do his job.

His profane outburst at Christchurch came after his team took a wicket! This man clearly hasn’t got the brains to think.

Even the 27 flatters me because it involved a lot of guesswork. With worse luck, that 27 could easily have been 15 and would have met your unexplained threshold of vegetable IQ.

The point that I am trying to make is that isolated academic result does not reflect the intelligence of an individual.

Sporting success is not about natural talent only. Natural talent is God-given, but how you harness that talent is what takes you to the top. People say that Kohli or Imran or XYZ successful player works or worked hard, but people barely understand how to define hard work itself.

It is not just putting in the most hours in the net. Do you really think Kohli faces more deliveries per day than anyone else India, or Tiger Woods and Jack Nicklaus hit and used to hit the most drives in a day?

It is not hard work but smart work - the method of your practice, how you structure your day, how you think about the game etc. All of this requires advanced cognitive abilities.

If you think Kohli is the greatest Asian batsman of all time, how do you think he got there by the age of 31 while having comparable (if not less) natural talent to Tendulkar, Rohit and Vinod Kambli?

Players like Umar Akmal, Ahmed Shehzad, Mohammad Sami, Vinod Kambli, Sohaib Maqsood, Ravi Bopara, Shaun Marsh, James Vince, Sreesanth, Monty, Kusal Perera, Ricardo Powell, etc. and also relatively successful players like Afridi, Razzaq, Akhtar who were good but massive underachievers exemplify what happens when you combine high talent with low intelligence.

Someone like Steve Smith would probably score as much as Kohli in school math exam if he doesn’t prepare, and he probably cannot solve a simple quadratic equation today, but the way he has constructed his own technique and developed his own method of becoming arguably the greatest Test batsman since Bradman clearly illustrates how smart he actually is.

Kohli and Smith might not be good at maths in school, but if they were not focused on cricket and would have aimed to get real jobs, both would have excelled at school.

Successful and smart people are born to succeed. It only depends on what field they choose to excel in.

 

[Mamoon]

i thought this was a thread discussing Kohli not Misbah Bashing??

It is not “academic performance in school” thread either.

 

[silentkiller187]

It is not “academic performance in school” thread either.

if mentioned in relation to Kohli then technically it could be used to formulate an opinion argument.

 

[Rana]

It is not “academic performance in school” thread either.

He didn’t bash him for being an idiot at school. The worlds most genius footballers are thick when it comes to school. He is simply saying that the man doesn’t have the mental capacity to accept his shortcomings and then to go ahead and do something about them. This is genuinely important. Kohli is no better than Umar Akmal, Shadab Khan, Hassan Ali Etc with his stupid antics

 

[Mamoon]

He didn’t bash him for being an idiot at school. The worlds most genius footballers are thick when it comes to school. He is simply saying that the man doesn’t have the mental capacity to accept his shortcomings and then to go ahead and do something about them. This is genuinely important. Kohli is no better than Umar Akmal, Shadab Khan, Hassan Ali Etc with his stupid antics

That is what you think because the so-called genius footballers were never focused on schoolwork. To reach the top of your sport requires not only talent but a lot of hard (smart) work and that requires cognitive abilities.

Antics have nothing to do with intelligence. Kohli is emotional and gets carried away, but you cannot compare his intelligence to Umar Akmal.

 

[Mamoon]

if mentioned in relation to Kohli then technically it could be used to formulate an opinion argument.

More like a ludicrous argument. Junaids is running out ways to discredit Asia’s most prolific Test captain of all time.

 

[silentkiller187]

More like a ludicrous argument. Junaids is running out ways to discredit Asia’s most prolific Test captain of all time.

I agree with you on that one, academic performance correlation argument is nonsense and i agree kohli is ATG standard.

 

[Rana]

That is what you think because the so-called genius footballers were never focused on schoolwork. To reach the top of your sport requires not only talent but a lot of hard (smart) work and that requires cognitive abilities.

Antics have nothing to do with intelligence. Kohli is emotional and gets carried away, but you cannot compare his intelligence to Umar Akmal.

He is as thick and Immature as Umar Akmal, Shadab has more of a brain but the guys basic upbringing let’s him down when it comes to presentation.

You can argue all you want, Umar Akmal is an idiot when it comes to press conferences and so is Kohli.

 

[Mamoon]

He is as thick and Immature as Umar Akmal, Shadab has more of a brain but the guys basic upbringing let’s him down when it comes to presentation.

You can argue all you want, Umar Akmal is an idiot when it comes to press conferences and so is Kohli.

Then you need to listen to more of Kohli’s pressers and not the ones where he is angry and upset. The way he articulates himself in general and explains the thought process behind his batting and how he works on his game reflects his intelligence.

He is Elon Musk and Albert Einstein compared to Umar. Please do not be ridiculous.

 

[Rana]

Then you need to listen to more of Kohli’s pressers and not the ones where he is angry and upset. The way he articulates himself in general and explains the thought process behind his batting and how he works on his game reflects his intelligence.

He is Elon Musk and Albert Einstein compared to Umar. Please do not be ridiculous.

Listen to Umar Akmal, Imad Wasim and Shadab Khan’s Urdu interviews. They don’t come across as stupid either. Kohli articulating himself in a decent manner due to him being Indian but speaking in English does not mean that he is much smarter or maturer than the clowns of Pakistan.

Can anyone argue that the following names are the biggest gems of the sub continent regardless of their schooling:

Virat Kohli
Shadab Khan
Shahid Afridi
Hardik Pandya
Hassan Ali
Umar Akmal
Ahmad Shahzad
Yuzendra Chahal

 

[Mamoon]

Listen to Umar Akmal, Imad Wasim and Shadab Khan’s Urdu interviews. They don’t come across as stupid either. Kohli articulating himself in a decent manner due to him being Indian but speaking in English does not mean that he is much smarter or maturer than the clowns of Pakistan.

Can anyone argue that the following names are the biggest gems of the sub continent regardless of their schooling:

Virat Kohli
Shadab Khan
Shahid Afridi
Hardik Pandya
Hassan Ali
Umar Akmal
Ahmad Shahzad
Yuzendra Chahal

It is not just English. You can see the difference between Kohli and Umar Akmal, Hasan etc. regardless of the language they speak in.

Anyway, if pretending that Kohli is as big an idiot as Umar and Afridi eases your pain, so be it. Unfortunately, in spite of being an idiot in your book, he is levels above any batsman Pakistan has ever produced in history, and has already won 19 more Test matches than the greatest Pakistani captain ever.

 

[Rana]

It is not just English. You can see the difference between Kohli and Umar Akmal, Hasan etc. regardless of the language they speak in.

Anyway, if pretending that Kohli is as big an idiot as Umar and Afridi eases your pain, so be it. Unfortunately, in spite of being an idiot in your book, he is levels above any batsman Pakistan has ever produced in history, and has already won 19 more Test matches than the greatest Pakistani captain ever.

The same can apply to Shaheen Shah Afridi being a world class bowler for Pakistan and light years ahead or on his way to becoming a bonafide world class bowler.

I believe Shaheen Shah Afridi has a mental age that is probably the same as his shoe size but it does not hinder him in demonstrating his class as a proper bowler.

 

[angrypathan]

If Kohli wasn't intelligent he wouldn't be able to consistently structure an innings whilst chasing as well as he does. I believe people are confusing intelligence with maturity. Kohli is clearly a smart guy, he's just terribly immature, and it's that side of him that gets reflected in his on field antics and occasionally abrasive interactions with the press.

 

[Junaids]

I’m not just blindly defaming Kohli.

I’m saying that it’s extraordinary that this recent series loss in New Zealand was identical in terms of unforced errors to the loss in England 18 months ago which was itself identical to the loss in South Africa 7 months earlier. Too little red ball preparation and too much aggression.

Almost all of us see the elementary and fixable errors that Kohli’s India keep making. Yet Kohli sees nothing wrong apart from not enough aggression!

And I’m saying that when you familiarise yourself with Kohli’s school record it all makes sense. This guy has the thinking ability of a banana.

 

[MenInG]

Interesting how Kohli has so much influence on BCCI decisions. Doesnt bode well for the future.

 

[Junaids]

Of all your posts, this must rank as one of the most sub-intelligent ones.

Linking academic performance with cricketing acumen

Tendulkar failed his 10th boards. I don't think he bothered to clear them. You can question Kohli and Tendulkar's captaincy credentials. But linking that with academic failures is plain obtuse.

And I bothered to post this because I myself know about how much a person's intelligence is linked to school-level mathematics. I failed my ICSE Maths prelims (pre-board exams) badly and 2 months later went on to score 98, just through some decent preparation during the study holidays. That's how hard, school-level Maths is....

I didn’t know about Tendulkar, but that makes some other things fall into context now.

I’ve written before that it’s weird that he completely failed to improve after the age of 20. Most batsmen identify and eliminate their weaknesses but Tendulkar never could or did. Obviously now we know why: he didn’t have the capacity for self-analysis to achieve this.

It also explains why at Yorkshire he never achieved as an overseas player what Lehmann, Gillespie and even Younis Khan did. On the pitch his batting was ok, but off the pitch his contribution was negligible.

I’m not saying that cricketers need to be educated to succeed. I’m saying that captains require an analytical mind and that even the best players can’t improve if they can’t recognise and tackle their relative weaknesses.

 

[MenInG]

I didn’t know about Tendulkar, but that makes some other things fall into context now.

I’ve written before that it’s weird that he completely failed to improve after the age of 20. Most batsmen identify and eliminate their weaknesses but Tendulkar never could or did. Obviously now we know why: he didn’t have the capacity for self-analysis to achieve this.

It also explains why at Yorkshire he never achieved as an overseas player what Lehmann, Gillespie and even Younis Khan did. On the pitch his batting was ok, but off the pitch his contribution was negligible.

I’m not saying that cricketers need to be educated to succeed. I’m saying that captains require an analytical mind and that even the best players can’t improve if they can’t recognise and tackle their relative weaknesses.

Ok bro - think this subject is NOT the reason for the thread.

Lets stop now - you can do another thread about education etc

 

[Bigboii]

Don’t worry, Pakistan does not appear to have the capacity to produce a player and a leader of his caliber.

Be happy with Misbah type gentlemen leaders who lose with a smile on their face and praise the opposition.

Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Babar Azam(hopefully) and many more do you think someone like WA or IK is a worse captain or a player than kohli?
But both of those players cursed a lot so agree with your point but a Pakistani cannot have the same caliber as kolhi is very hard to digest.

 

[tyron_woodley]

I’m not just blindly defaming Kohli.

I’m saying that it’s extraordinary that this recent series loss in New Zealand was identical in terms of unforced errors to the loss in England 18 months ago which was itself identical to the loss in South Africa 7 months earlier. Too little red ball preparation and too much aggression.

Almost all of us see the elementary and fixable errors that Kohli’s India keep making. Yet Kohli sees nothing wrong apart from not enough aggression!

And I’m saying that when you familiarise yourself with Kohli’s school record it all makes sense. This guy has the thinking ability of a banana.

bro what can we do though? It's true india don't prepare well for red ball cricket. Not enough practice games. No county to prepare for swing conditions. We are always under cooked in those countries where there is swing friendly wickets.

kohli is not willing to stop playing pointless t20 and odi series prior to red ball cricket. Who in their right mind plays a 3 match odi series just 9 days before the n.z series. Anything to make some extra cash for these sponsors. Indian board doesn't seem to manage workload well and the players were clearly fatigued. They weren't in prime conditon to win in n.z.

t20 reigns supreme as money talks. So it won't change anytime soon. Hopefully ganguly can sort kohli out.

 

[tyron_woodley]

He didn’t bash him for being an idiot at school. The worlds most genius footballers are thick when it comes to school. He is simply saying that the man doesn’t have the mental capacity to accept his shortcomings and then to go ahead and do something about them. This is genuinely important. Kohli is no better than Umar Akmal, Shadab Khan, Hassan Ali Etc with his stupid antics

Frank lampard has an lq of 150 buddy. Doesn't work like that. It's all about effort, time management, will power and ability to absorb information.

Anyone who is dedicated and focused with the right mindset can achieve what they wish to achieve in life. However in sport, you need the physical ability too. Ronaldo worked his butt off to get to where he is. Many athletes are actually very intelligent. They just chose to not focus on studying and instead put their lives on the line to reach the pinnacle of their respective sport.

Just too hard to compete with guys where their entire lives revolve around being the best in their field.
Take mma for example. Yes there are heaps of good athletes but a fighter who is a born fighter and does nothing but fight in life will always have the advantage in a duel regardless of the skill difference.

 

[Geil]

Virat Kholi is a superstar and there"s trend called "Bhakti" or being a "Bhakt" of Kohli,

Kohli wants everyone around him to be like a "BHAKT" that means everything he thinks, plans and demands is right,everyone must listen to him,no one can reason with him if you do then the fate will be somewhat like a Anil kumble

This Indian cricket team can be something very great but Kohli"s dictatorship is brining this Indian team down to an ordinary team

 

[silentkiller187]

Virat Kholi is a superstar and there"s trend called "Bhakti" or being a "Bhakt" of Kohli,

Kohli wants everyone around him to be like a "BHAKT" that means everything he thinks, plans and demands is right,everyone must listen to him,no one can reason with him if you do then the fate will be somewhat like a Anil kumble

This Indian cricket team can be something very great but Kohli"s dictatorship is brining this Indian team down to an ordinary team

very true, i think this attitude is quite common place in asia, problem is when you step into the western world, your superstar status diminish and you can come across as being petulant or arrogant.

 

[Saurav]

Kohli is a narcissist and arrogant but not dumb.

 

[Mean&Green]

I know this is Kohli bashing season, and an opportunity for people to release their bottled up frustrations over his and India’s success, but he is actually quite articulate which reflects his intelligence.

Unfortunately, he is abusive and it has little do with his schooling and more to do with the Delhi culture. In general, people from Delhi cannot string together two sentences without using expletives.

Yeah he learned English and practiced a lot to speak fluently and not sound like a fob later on in his life not from school cause he didn’t even pass grade 10 that’s all he’s studied still. Also almost all of India speaks English quiet well though. Plus we all know how much you hate Imran khan. But the bitter truth is Kohli can never reach the class and swagger level of Imran khan on or off the field. Before you bring some random ** into this as well Imran khan a 6 foot 1 Caucasian looking man compared to Kohli a 5”8 Indian brown skinned man can never have the same effect on the public especially in India and Pakistan where fair skin is worshipped lol plus I don’t even need to mention who people would prefer in western countries end of.

 

[Abdul]

I wrote in another thread that when I delved into Kohli’s education, it turned out that this was a person who scored 3 marks out of 100 in a Grade 9 Maths exam.

Kohli is the best batsman that Asia has ever produced.

But his academic record backs up my increasing suspicions that his intelligence appears to be only just above the subnormal range, and that he is incapable of identifying what goes wrong outside Asia in Tests, let alone fixing it.

Worse still, the victory over a demoralised and under strength Australian team who had just lost to Bilal Asif has probably had the disastrous effect of convincing Kohli that things are going well and don’t require major changes.

The more I watch his captaincy, the more I question his basic level of intelligence. And I don’t think he’s actually fit to captain a team at any level.

But if they give him Yes-Men selectors the problems will not change at all, let alone improve.

I have gotten 0 out of 50 on a test in high school because I just didn't care, wrote my name on it and handed it in, and I also have a 4.33 GPA in university as a STEM major. What's your point? Are you going to define a person by plucking out few failures only?

 

[Junaids]

bro what can we do though? It's true india don't prepare well for red ball cricket. Not enough practice games. No county to prepare for swing conditions. We are always under cooked in those countries where there is swing friendly wickets.

kohli is not willing to stop playing pointless t20 and odi series prior to red ball cricket. Who in their right mind plays a 3 match odi series just 9 days before the n.z series. Anything to make some extra cash for these sponsors. Indian board doesn't seem to manage workload well and the players were clearly fatigued. They weren't in prime conditon to win in n.z.

t20 reigns supreme as money talks. So it won't change anytime soon. Hopefully ganguly can sort kohli out.

Honestly, I would do this.

1. Announce that Kohli has been relieved of his duties as Test captain due to excessive away losses and for disciplinary reasons due to his swearing at the Christchurch crowd.

2. Announce Pujara or even Jadeja as the Test captain, and host a press conference announcing that from now on the Test side outside Asia will:

a) Be selected with an emphasis on continuity.

b) Be selected with an emphasis on reducing overseas defeats.

c) Make an effort to bat more in the image of Pujara - batting long and with less positive intent.

d) Contain an all-rounder and feature four quick bowlers.

I’m thinking on.balance

6 Jadeja
7 Pandya
8 Saha
9 Ishant
10 Shami
11 Bumrah

 

[tyron_woodley]

Yeah he learned English and practiced a lot to speak fluently and not sound like a fob later on in his life not from school cause he didn’t even pass grade 10 that’s all he’s studied still. Also almost all of India speaks English quiet well though. Plus we all know how much you hate Imran khan. But the bitter truth is Kohli can never reach the class and swagger level of Imran khan on or off the field. Before you bring some random ** into this as well Imran khan a 6 foot 1 Caucasian looking man compared to Kohli a 5”8 Indian brown skinned man can never have the same effect on the public especially in India and Pakistan where fair skin is worshipped lol plus I don’t even need to mention who people would prefer in western countries end of.

what? kohli has no effect on public lol? that too in India and Pakistan? Infact he had more of an effect.

Literally nobody remembers imran khan in australia. But they sure will remember kohli.

imran is more remembered in England. All about performances in countries where you dominate.

Kohli is actually not brown. He is quite fair. It's just that imran is completely white.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Honestly, I would do this.

1. Announce that Kohli has been relieved of his duties as Test captain due to excessive away losses and for disciplinary reasons due to his swearing at the Christchurch crowd.

2. Announce Pujara or even Jadeja as the Test captain, and host a press conference announcing that from now on the Test side outside Asia will:

a) Be selected with an emphasis on continuity.

b) Be selected with an emphasis on reducing overseas defeats.

c) Make an effort to bat more in the image of Pujara - batting long and with less positive intent.

d) Contain an all-rounder and feature four quick bowlers.

I’m thinking on.balance

6 Jadeja
7 Pandya
8 Saha
9 Ishant
10 Shami
11 Bumrah

i would love to see that balance but till this date we never pick teams based on balance or condition thanks to selectors and the v-rat.


if we still lose then it is what it is. We aren't good enough to win away then but the problem I have is that we don't even pick our best team. Also you forgot bhuvi. He is our best exponent of swing conditons.

 

[Bigboii]

what? kohli has no effect on public lol? that too in India and Pakistan? Infact he had more of an effect.

Literally nobody remembers imran khan in australia. But they sure will remember kohli.

imran is more remembered in England. All about performances in countries where you dominate.

Kohli is actually not brown. He is quite fair. It's just that imran is completely white.

No kohli is brown and he is also good looking
no need to degrade our own people like that you can be both

 

[tyron_woodley]

No kohli is brown and he is also good looking
no need to degrade our own people like that you can be both

dude he isn't brown lol. He is light skinned brown at worst. He is quite fair. Regardless yes he is good looking. Brown light brown or white wouldn't matter. if you are good looking you are good looking.

Brown would be guys like dravid, Rahul and shami etc.

 

[shahid10]

bro what can we do though? It's true india don't prepare well for red ball cricket. Not enough practice games. No county to prepare for swing conditions. We are always under cooked in those countries where there is swing friendly wickets.

kohli is not willing to stop playing pointless t20 and odi series prior to red ball cricket. Who in their right mind plays a 3 match odi series just 9 days before the n.z series. Anything to make some extra cash for these sponsors. Indian board doesn't seem to manage workload well and the players were clearly fatigued. They weren't in prime conditon to win in n.z.

t20 reigns supreme as money talks. So it won't change anytime soon. Hopefully ganguly can sort kohli out.

Who are you to decide that man,Cry a river but test will never be as popular as ODIs,T20s in India. When majority prefer LOIs over test format,They should be the one that should be given importance rather than tests just because few entitled ones think so.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Who are you to decide that man,Cry a river but test will never be as popular as ODIs,T20s in India. When majority prefer LOIs over test format,They should be the one that should be given importance rather than tests just because few entitled ones think so.

tests is the true format. real format. Number 1 priority. Always will be. Greats are made in tests. Otherwise stick to tamasha t20 rubbish and odi.

odi apart from the world cup means nothing.

t20 world cup is fine but none of these tournaments compare to being test number 1.


australia won 3 world cups wirh ponting but if you ask him what he rates as the highest achievement he would say being number 1 in tests for 6/7 years in a row.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

All said and done, Kohli has proven himself to be an absolute monster at home, a decent captain away especially when conditions are in favor.

This makes him a good captain overall, Indian team a very good team overall.

Neither qualify him or his team as 'GREAT.' There have only been 2 great teams in the last 50 years - the West Indies and Australian teams - who were feared in all conditions.

On topic, Kohli's selections and chopping and changing will incur justified criticism as they should because selectors do come under criticism!

 

[shahid10]

tests is the true format. real format. Number 1 priority. Always will be. Greats are made in tests. Otherwise stick to tamasha t20 rubbish and odi.

odi apart from the world cup means nothing.

t20 world cup is fine but none of these tournaments compare to being test number 1.


australia won 3 world cups wirh ponting but if you ask him what he rates as the highest achievement he would say being number 1 in tests for 6/7 years in a row.

Just because you have a taste for boredom doesn't mean others should follow suit,And test cricket fans should be the last one to label other formats as tamasha,When test format in itself is farcical.

 

[Geil]

Honestly, I would do this.

1. Announce that Kohli has been relieved of his duties as Test captain due to excessive away losses and for disciplinary reasons due to his swearing at the Christchurch crowd.

2. Announce Pujara or even Jadeja as the Test captain, and host a press conference announcing that from now on the Test side outside Asia will:

a) Be selected with an emphasis on continuity.

b) Be selected with an emphasis on reducing overseas defeats.

c) Make an effort to bat more in the image of Pujara - batting long and with less positive intent.

d) Contain an all-rounder and feature four quick bowlers.

I’m thinking on.balance

6 Jadeja
7 Pandya
8 Saha
9 Ishant
10 Shami
11 Bumrah

Saurav ganguly is the BCCI president and I am sure he will not be a BHAKT of Kohli ,Kohli is somewhere in the middle right right now,

either going up and winning maybe a T20 WC or any big series in the coming years or going down because losing multiple away series and the choking at finals

What you are suggesting would definitely wont happen maybe till next T20 WC in India,so Kohli is in that Zone now that if he produces a same result like in New Zealand Ganguly would come hard on Kohli because he is the sole reason India winning and losing,he is the dictator of Indian team right now with complete control,very few captains have that control plus the dictatorship over the team

 

[tyron_woodley]

Just because you have a taste for boredom doesn't mean others should follow suit,And test cricket fans should be the last one to label other formats as tamasha,When test format in itself is farcical.

not boredom dummy. Goats are made in tests not odi or t20. Test cricket is real cricket that's why they are called tests. They test you.

how is tests tamasha when you actually have to play quality cricket to win games? You need technique, power, endurance and athleticism to compete for 5 days at the elite level.

in short formats even hacks can get away with being hero's..That's why they are the true tamasha forms of the game.

You only play short formats if you aren't good enough in tests to make a living.

if you don't like tests then don't watch it.

 

[shahid10]

not boredom dummy. Goats are made in tests not odi or t20. Test cricket is real cricket that's why they are called tests. They test you.

how is tests tamasha when you actually have to play quality cricket to win games? You need technique, power, endurance and athleticism to compete for 5 days at the elite level.

in short formats even hacks can get away with being hero's..That's why they are the true tamasha forms of the game.

You only play short formats if you aren't good enough in tests to make a living.

if you don't like tests then don't watch it.

I don't follow test and if you feel so entitled as test cricket fan then you should stop watching LOIs and whining about it rather than undermining it,Icc makes money through LOI tournaments and most boards make a large chunk of money through t20 league and bilateral LOIs,So stop acting like a knobhead rather than showing fake bravado.

 

[shahid10]

not boredom dummy. Goats are made in tests not odi or t20. Test cricket is real cricket that's why they are called tests. They test you.

how is tests tamasha when you actually have to play quality cricket to win games? You need technique, power, endurance and athleticism to compete for 5 days at the elite level.

in short formats even hacks can get away with being hero's..That's why they are the true tamasha forms of the game.

You only play short formats if you aren't good enough in tests to make a living.

if you don't like tests then don't watch it.

There are many good test players who have failed in LOIs pathetically,So they all must be far worse than hacks

 

[tyron_woodley]

There are many good test players who have failed in LOIs pathetically,So they all must be far worse than hacks

t20 is for hacks.

odi is a miniature version of test cricket. A proper world class player is only recognized as a great in test cricket because the longer formats tests ypur overall skills an ability.

In odi even flawed players with poor technique can survive and be effective.

Test players who failed in odi? sure. It's a limited ** game with rules designed to favour hacks as they don't get exposed by quality bowling. Each top bowler can only bowl a maximum of 10 overs with a white ball that offers nothing for the bowler.

 

[tyron_woodley]

I don't follow test and if you feel so entitled as test cricket fan then you should stop watching LOIs and whining about it rather than undermining it,Icc makes money through LOI tournaments and most boards make a large chunk of money through t20 league and bilateral LOIs,So stop acting like a knobhead rather than showing fake bravado.

are you dense? I already said that LOI is good for generating revenue and so is t20. Doesn't change the fact that is is a joke format where your skills aren't tested.

I am ok with players playing any format but not before a crucial test series. You need a break in between. Btw test format plays a get paid the highest salary amongst the big 3 plus n.z and south africa. So players will in top nations will always prioritize test cricket and rightfully so.

ipl franchises is an additional bonus.