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“Body language is so important. At least look positive” : Wasim Akram on Misbah’s body language

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wasim Akram "The head in his hands wasn’t the best sign from the coach. OK the team and the bowlers are getting hammered but body language is so important for any coach. It doesn’t matter what the situation is, it’s his job to be positive. At least look positive" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/ruQL7JQvbN">pic.twitter.com/ruQL7JQvbN</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1300120914433114115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
I really want to see Wasim being in the coaching set up.

I feel he would do very well.
 
Iirc Arthur used to do this as well. And who can forget Miandad’s furious gestures from the dug out. I guess coaching PCT isn’t the easiest of the jobs.
 
Agree with Wasim here. Had same issues with Mickey as well. Trevor Baylis WC winning coach never used to let his emotions out.
 
BreadPakoda said:
Iirc Arthur used to do this as well. And who can forget Miandad’s furious gestures from the dug out. I guess coaching PCT isn’t the easiest of the jobs.
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Arthur used to get mad but at least you knew that the players were going to get a firecracker in the dressing room afterward.

Misbah will just come out with the standard "boyz played well" and give a match summary before changing absolutely nothing.
 
Compared to this, Mickey was much better. Sometimes it’s not the coaching or the captaincy that is at fault, but the lack of good players in the team.
 
Whats wrong with his body language?
He just expressing his frustration.
Nothing wrong
 
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Wasim is talking nonsense as usual.

Mediocre players won’t turn into world beaters because their coach has a positive attitude.

Our players don’t have the ability. That is all.

Whether Misbah does bhangra in the dressing room or throws stuff around, nothing will change.

We need to lower our expectations - we do not have the talent or the skill or all the things that you need to beat the top sides.
 
Mamoon said:
Wasim is talking nonsense as usual.

Mediocre players won’t turn into world beaters because their coach has a positive attitude.

Our players don’t have the ability. That is all.

Whether Misbah does bhangra in the dressing room or throws stuff around, nothing will change.

We need to lower our expectations - we do not have the talent or the skill or all the things that you need to beat the top sides.
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In order to work on developing skills, people need to have the ability to identify weaknesses and short comings first
 
This is coming from a guy who as a captain didnt help his ppayers or talked to them and created a negative senior junior environment
 
Savak said:
In order to work on developing skills, people need to have the ability to identify weaknesses and short comings first
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It is too late now. Apart from Babar and Shaheen none of these players have a high ceiling.
 
We are a Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and West Indies level team. The quicker we realize that and lower our expectations, the easier it will be.

In fact, I would put Bangladesh marginally ahead of Pakistan in Limited Overs cricket. Now please don’t try to sell me the dummy of the dead rubber World Cup match. I won’t buy it.
 
It was a very good batting display by Pakistan albeit against England B side. We were just outclassed by a better batting side who have guys that are switch hitting and doing ramp shots for six at will.
 
The fact Wasim is officially the worse cricketing pundit on TV plus the fact he was an awful captain.... kind of surprised (well not really) that we have our fanbase believing he’ll be a good coach. Waqar is a perfect example of this and our people are still naive.
 
Misabh is thinking that he might get sacked as chief selector and then he will be getting a reduced paycheck for being the head coach only. Thats the reason his head in his hands.
 
Mamoon said:
We are a Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and West Indies level team. The quicker we realize that and lower our expectations, the easier it will be.
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I agree, there is nothing much in Pak’s performance in last some years to prove otherwise. To be honest rankings also prove that, not sure who is thinking otherwise or why would someone think otherwise.

Its natural to watch a match as a fan with certain level of expectation irrespective of how good or bad your team is to keep that bit of excitement alive.

Though when it comes to future I dont believe everything is a constant phenomenon. Things change for better or for worse, they rarely remain stagnant.
 
I don't like to see this sort of sort of behaviour from any coach, whether it was Miandad, Mickey Arthur or Misbah now. It's unsettling for the players and especially the skipper who will feel he is making a lot of mistakes.
 
Misbah is the selector , he is the coach, he changed the captaincy and he brought this team and he selected the playing 11 and now why is he frustrated... He should angry with himself not others or others decisions..
 
[MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] [MENTION=142432]Titan24[/MENTION] [MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION] [MENTION=149279]Abu_Hamza[/MENTION]

:facepalm (: facepalm)
 
Saj said:
I don't like to see this sort of sort of behaviour from any coach, whether it was Miandad, Mickey Arthur or Misbah now. It's unsettling for the players and especially the skipper who will feel he is making a lot of mistakes.
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Agreed. Maybe its just me but, to be honest something looks amiss in Pak’s dressing room. Do we have any idea how the players feel about Misbah in charge? Interviews of someone like Mohammad Amir in the last few months didnt really imply that he is loving him as in charge.
 
Some people make me laugh, so when England were struggling as a team in all forms of the game they should of given up? To say we have no talent is blatantly not true!
 
Abdullah719 said:
[MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] [MENTION=142432]Titan24[/MENTION] [MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION] [MENTION=149279]Abu_Hamza[/MENTION]

:facepalm (: facepalm)
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Wow! Great job, I think its looking pretty good. I was also worried with the low resolution but, turned out to be impressive in my opinion.
 
After all this emotions what can he do?

He was a loser ever since he lost the WC T20 in 2007... Waht can he inspire :yawn
 
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Abdullah719 said:
[MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] [MENTION=142432]Titan24[/MENTION] [MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION] [MENTION=149279]Abu_Hamza[/MENTION]

:facepalm (: facepalm)
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The enduring image of today's match and no doubt upcoming matches.
 
Abdullah719 said:
[MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] [MENTION=142432]Titan24[/MENTION] [MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION] [MENTION=149279]Abu_Hamza[/MENTION]

:facepalm (: facepalm)
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Oh wow! Thanks Abdullah bhai. This is going to be used many times :facepalm
 
Mamoon said:
We are a Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and West Indies level team. The quicker we realize that and lower our expectations, the easier it will be.

In fact, I would put Bangladesh marginally ahead of Pakistan in Limited Overs cricket. Now please don’t try to sell me the dummy of the dead rubber World Cup match. I won’t buy it.
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West Indies have a better red ball seam attack. I've seen their home pitches in the last two years and they're producing seaming, bouncy pitches which is Pakistani batsmen's worst nightmare. They've got tall pacers who hit the deck hard too - not short skiddy Musa types.

I'll be shocked if we beat them if the tour goes ahead as scheduled next year.
 
Markhor said:
West Indies have a better red ball seam attack. I've seen their home pitches in the last two years and they're producing seaming, bouncy pitches which is Pakistani batsmen's worst nightmare. They've got tall pacers who hit the deck hard too - not short skiddy Musa types.

I'll be shocked if we beat them if the tour goes ahead as scheduled next year.
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Not to forget some of their upcoming young pacers like Chemar Holder and Keon Harding and unlike Pak’s young pacers they already have 19, 20! FC matches under their belt.
 
Coach was more animated than Malik and Iftikhar were the entire afternoon.
 
That's not like Misbah at all. Must be some drama from Misbah to show some stakeholders how tough things have been and that it isn't his fault.
 
I've once again lost interest in Pakistan cricket due to this shameless guy Misbah. Last it happened was during the 2015 era.


How is that useless foreign import Wasim Khan not seeing what everyone of us can see. This is what happens when some fly-in expert is brought in who has zero knowledge of the ground realities.
 
BreadPakoda said:
Agree, makes it look like the captain/players are not following his plans and hence failing.
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Reminds me of how a year ago everything was blamed on Sarfraz/U. Akmal/ A. Shehzad. Misbah named a new captain and everyone forgot his horrid previous decisions.
 
If a cool customer like Misbah can get rattled so easily, things are not good in the Pakistan camp. Maybe they are fed up with the sight of each other after a long tour and not able to go out?
 
Syed1 said:
I've once again lost interest in Pakistan cricket due to this shameless guy Misbah. Last it happened was during the 2015 era.


How is that useless foreign import Wasim Khan not seeing what everyone of us can see. This is what happens when some fly-in expert is brought in who has zero knowledge of the ground realities.
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I am afraid if this continues and more people lose interest in the sport then it will end up like hockey. Then there will be a time people won't care anymore about what decisions the board takes.

Really hope PCB doesn't wait and takes action on time to avoid a hockey like future of the sport.
 
These are all of his own making anyway. If you put garbage in, you're going to get garbage out. Shameless Misbah deserves utter humiliation.
 
coy0607 said:
Misbah = disaster

Wasim Khan = total catastrophe
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Still can't believe that one of the reasons to hire Misbah was that he would be cheaper than a foreign coach. This is the level of 'competence' we imported in form of Wasim Khan
 
Syed1 said:
Still can't believe that one of the reasons to hire Misbah was that he would be cheaper than a foreign coach. This is the level of 'competence' we imported in form of Wasim Khan
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To be fair to the PCB, they were hamstrung by low quality applicants. The PCB also wanted to experiment by combined the Head Coach and CS roles together. Lurking on PP, not many fans were in favor of the inexperienced Dean Jones appointment and they were fed up with Mickey Arthurs incompetency.
 
Misbah was overreacting a bit. Coach needs to look cool, calm, and collected. Misbah seemed anxious.
 
Savak said:
To be fair to the PCB, they were hamstrung by low quality applicants. The PCB also wanted to experiment by combined the Head Coach and CS roles together. Lurking on PP, not many fans were in favor of the inexperienced Dean Jones appointment and they were fed up with Mickey Arthurs incompetency.
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Low quality? Mickey was literally begging to stay on. Even on his worst day he is better than Misbah.


On top of that Dean Jones who has done so well in PSL made his intentions clear as to how he wants the job.


Wasim Khan being the naive uninformed overseas import got duped by the babus in appointing siyana bunda Misbah ul Haq.
 
Mamoon said:
In fact, I would put Bangladesh marginally ahead of Pakistan in Limited Overs cricket. Now please don’t try to sell me the dummy of the dead rubber World Cup match. I won’t buy it.
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Pakistan is ranked higher than Bangladesh in all 3 formats. Ranked 2 spots higher in tests, ranked one spot higher in ODIs, but the point difference is huge (14 points), ranked 4 spots higher in T20s.
 
Savak said:
To be fair to the PCB, they were hamstrung by low quality applicants. The PCB also wanted to experiment by combined the Head Coach and CS roles together. Lurking on PP, not many fans were in favor of the inexperienced Dean Jones appointment and they were fed up with Mickey Arthurs incompetency.
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Syed1 said:
Low quality? Mickey was literally begging to stay on. Even on his worst day he is better than Misbah.


On top of that Dean Jones who has done so well in PSL made his intentions clear as to how he wants the job.


Wasim Khan being the naive uninformed overseas import got duped by the babus in appointing siyana bunda Misbah ul Haq.
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Savak, the reason why there was only two or three applicants (if you include Waqar) for the Head Coach role was because the application criteria was specifically designed to filter everyone except Misbah. It was a corrupt process to begin with.

We could have got a far superior replacement because a dual role of Head Coach and Chief Selector is not only unique but a very exciting opportunity for any cricketing coach to raise their profile.

I'm sure PCB could have roped in Andy Flower because he was available at the time.

But even if we were to assume that the quality of applicants were to remain substandard, we could've stuck with Mickey. I know you don't like him, perhaps because you're an Inzamam fan, but it was Inzy who was the main problem, not Mickey.
 
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Syed1 said:
Low quality? Mickey was literally begging to stay on. Even on his worst day he is better than Misbah.


On top of that Dean Jones who has done so well in PSL made his intentions clear as to how he wants the job.


Wasim Khan being the naive uninformed overseas import got duped by the babus in appointing siyana bunda Misbah ul Haq.
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I think an option to rope in Andy Flower could have been there if he would have been approached.
 
Not great from misbah Im not sure whats going on in the dressing room but showing this sort of frustration doesnt reflect well and can cause more panic on the field and pressure on the captain
 
I have a feeling there is a grouping against Misbah and Babar. And Babar is getting pressurized by one specific senior...

Guess who is leading the opposition?
 
Abdullah719 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wasim Akram "The head in his hands wasn’t the best sign from the coach. OK the team and the bowlers are getting hammered but body language is so important for any coach. It doesn’t matter what the situation is, it’s his job to be positive. At least look positive" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/ruQL7JQvbN">pic.twitter.com/ruQL7JQvbN</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1300120914433114115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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I think the best part was when Bumble said, "This is how Micky Arthur used to do when Misbah was the captain."
 
Saj said:
I don't like to see this sort of sort of behaviour from any coach, whether it was Miandad, Mickey Arthur or Misbah now. It's unsettling for the players and especially the skipper who will feel he is making a lot of mistakes.
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Completely agree. Do it inside the dressing room not in full public view. Especially with a newish and younger captain who is learning on the job.
Strange coming this from Misbah usually he was very calm and collected in his playing days. Even on the bad ones.
 
Misbah had these issues as a captain also. Used to say, do some very dumb things on camera.

Needs to be sacked. This is torturous for Pakistan fans
 
He's made us a joke again. First we lose a completely winnable test series and today we lost another ODI because he's packing the side with useless TTFs.

Back to the dark 2015 era we go
 
Colorblind Genius said:
I think the best part was when Bumble said, "This is how Micky Arthur used to do when Misbah was the captain."
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I think this was all of us when Misbah used to bat or watch Pakistan under his captaincy in white ball cricket.
 
Pakpak said:
He's made us a joke again. First we lose a completely winnable test series and today we lost another ODI because he's packing the side with useless TTFs.

Back to the dark 2015 era we go
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You ment Twenty20 right?

Back to topic, This is the first time I saw such reaction from Misbah. Things are not looking so good after all.
 
Shazzam said:
You ment Twenty20 right?

Back to topic, This is the first time I saw such reaction from Misbah. Things are not looking so good after all.
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Not professional at all from Misbah. Another example of the PCB goofing up by appointing someone that does not have the credentials to take up such critical roles within the team management.
 
Shazzam said:
You ment Twenty20 right?

Back to topic, This is the first time I saw such reaction from Misbah. Things are not looking so good after all.
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Not professional at all from Misbah. Another example of the PCB goofing up by appointing someone that does not have the credentials to take up such critical roles within the team management.
 
Shazzam said:
You ment Twenty20 right?

Back to topic, This is the first time I saw such reaction from Misbah. Things are not looking so good after all.
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I mentioned Tests too. We lost a test series which we should have won had it not been for the gutless yes-man captain and his golden boy that he chose.
 
Kroll said:
Not professional at all from Misbah. Another example of the PCB goofing up by appointing someone that does not have the credentials to take up such critical roles within the team management.
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I hope you said the same thing about Mickey Arthur.
 
Kroll said:
Not professional at all from Misbah. Another example of the PCB goofing up by appointing someone that does not have the credentials to take up such critical roles within the team management.
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Thats very true. Outside of his own captaincy you could see what cricket knowledge he has as a analyst. It never gave the confidence that this man is the right man to take our cricket forward. There are many journalists out there who are looking for a story. This one will be unfortunately a big one on there agenda. Thats why a coach must control himself when he’s in front of camera. He can’t give them story worthwhile.



Pakpak said:
I mentioned Tests too. We lost a test series which we should have won had it not been for the gutless yes-man captain and his golden boy that he chose.
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You did mention Tests I was just curious if you made a mistake on calling this a ODI? And yeah thats true we lost games we should have won. I was watching the game to watch good cricket. The losses no longer hurt anymore cause you know what to expect from the coach. There is a lot of inexperience showing. Its not even funny anymore.
 
Think the coach needs to sit down with the selector and get a good bunch together....... Oh wait.
 
Shazzam said:
Thats very true. Outside of his own captaincy you could see what cricket knowledge he has as a analyst. It never gave the confidence that this man is the right man to take our cricket forward. There are many journalists out there who are looking for a story. This one will be unfortunately a big one on there agenda. Thats why a coach must control himself when he’s in front of camera. He can’t give them story worthwhile.





You did mention Tests I was just curious if you made a mistake on calling this a ODI? And yeah thats true we lost games we should have won. I was watching the game to watch good cricket. The losses no longer hurt anymore cause you know what to expect from the coach. There is a lot of inexperience showing. Its not even funny anymore.
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Oh sorry I just realised I wrote ODI :)) We will get battered there too when he fills the middle order with 40 year old has-beens.
 
Saj said:
I don't like to see this sort of sort of behaviour from any coach, whether it was Miandad, Mickey Arthur or Misbah now. It's unsettling for the players and especially the skipper who will feel he is making a lot of mistakes.
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Surely you are kidding me. I was impressed with Misbah's behaviour. He finally did what he should have done during the first test. The players on the field need to know how they are so easily losing matches from winning positions. The coach needs to show emotion and be tough on the players. Let them know the reality, whats the point of feeding them fairy floss and acting like its all rosy.
 
When England started pouncing and looking at Misbah at the same time was curtains for Pakistan. Pakistan was out of the game after 12th over. With so much of experience of watching this mediocre team, I can now comfortably guess within overs if they will lose or win. And I'm right 8/9 out of 10 times.

Morgan played a very similar innings against Pak last year in a T20 where he took Pak to cleaners and took England comfortably home. Today was a copy of that match. Here's the scorecard: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...england-vs-pakistan-only-t20i-wc-warm-up-2019

Pakistan cricket is dead for me. Had a false dawn after CT 2017 but they showed their real aukat and went onto to lose everything after that. I sometimes wonder watching them if they are real professionals who are paid millions? They lack basic courage and sense. Have become so used to them falling like a pack of cards. I can give you at least 10 examples where they lost a winning game in past 1-2 years. We are the real chokers. We just crumble in key moments.

Need an authentic world class leader to somehow come through the cracks and turn around Pak cricket or its a drowning ship. You simply can't encourage kids to play the game if they grow up watching garbage like Asad, Azhar, Malik etc. You need few mega stars to revive cricket back or its gone. Only cricket is played at a top level in Pakistan and yet we suck at it. NZ's population is comparable to a city like Lahore and they made to two wc finals and almost winning one.

Wasim Khan's hiring was a rare hope and he is doing his best to kill the game. Who the heck advised him to hire Faisal Iqbal as a coach? Are these people really sincere? Or are we too dumb to understand? Who told him to give Misbah all the power? Wasim Khan stop the dramebazi of hiring hundreds of coaches for fancy titles. Fix the grassroot and school cricket and we might see the fruits of it after 15 years.

When is the mediocrity going to end? Fed up.
 
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You made a monumental ODI failure, both in terms of batsmanship and captaincy, as the coach of the national team (relatively) immediately after his retirement. What did you expect? Am i exaggerating when i say that Pakistan LOI team's worse phase EVER in the their history came under Misbah as a captain?

Moreover, some of these players,especially in the test team, have played under his captaincy as well. Do you expect anyone to even question his tortoise outdated decisions in the team discussions? Apart from that, these defeatist expressions make everything all the more worse. Appointing him was just throwing Pakistan back into the 2011-2016 disastrous era.
 
Abdullah719 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wasim Akram "The head in his hands wasn’t the best sign from the coach. OK the team and the bowlers are getting hammered but body language is so important for any coach. It doesn’t matter what the situation is, it’s his job to be positive. At least look positive" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/ruQL7JQvbN">pic.twitter.com/ruQL7JQvbN</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1300120914433114115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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There is a world of difference between Mickey Arthur with his head in his hands and Misbah-ul-Haq.

Mickey had his head in his hands when there was a clear plan, and the players were not executing it, and he was geeing them up - motivating them to show what they could do.

It was that "why are you bowling on leg-stump when we have given you an off-side field to bowl to?" look.

Misbah's head is in his hands because he knows that his Plan A is a ridiculous failure and that he looks like a complete fool.

His look is a defeated look, a loser's look. It says "I actually believed that if I replaced all the guys in their twenties with guys in their teens or thirties we would do better. And we are doing much, much worse. I have just proved that Inzamam and Arthur are better at these jobs than I am".
 
Back to back losses with no respite in sight - he's just feeling the heat. With these antics, he was just playing to the galleries to show that he's invested and cares for the team, and probably hoping that he gains some sympathy and brownie points.

This guy is as incompetent as they come. He orchestrated a grand scam when he was the captain to portray himself a the savior and the only hope for our team. Unfortunately, our naive fans were easily duped and didn't understand the kind of harm he did to the team and now continues to do so in this role.

Pakistan cricket has absolutely no hope if this man is involved in its affairs in ANY capacity.

I have never disliked a cricketer as much as I dislike this guy.
 
Fact is we need a person to hate at the moment - Misbah is an easy target at the moment. When he is gone, we will find another. The underlying issues with Pak cricket will be swept aside.
 
Misbah and Waqar had the same emotions in 2015 WC when they were playing an out of form Nasir Jamshed, Younis, and on-debut bowlers and were raking losses after losses, and then running around like headless chickens wondering what had happened.

Both of them clearly haven't learnt, and are making the same mistakes again.
 
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