“Misbah’s honesty clear from the fact that he was on the committee to select the coach" : M. Yousuf

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“Misbah’s honesty clear from the fact that he was on the committee to select the coach" : M. Yousuf

Batting legend Mohammad Yousuf criticised Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) for implementing new policies and appointing Misbah-ul-Haq as head coach-cum-chief selector.

Yousuf, while talking to ARY News lambasted on Misbah’s appointment, said the decision is beyond his understanding.

“Misbah’s honesty can be gauged from here that he was himself on the committee to select the coach,” former Test cricketer said.

“If the team is to be selected by the coaches, then why is the chief selector required and when will the head coach have time to see new players?”

The right-handed batsman also said that Misbah never allowed Azhar Ali to play ODI under his captaincy.

“As long as Misbah was the captain, Azhar Ali was not allowed to join the ODI team although he was a better player than Misbah.”

He also criticised bowling icon Waqar Younis, who appointed as bowling coach of the national team.

“I was surprised and upset to know that Waqar Younis accepted the title of bowling coach because whenever he gets the role he gets a problem.”

Talking about the revamped domestic structure, Yousuf said there should’ve been eight teams in the first-class cricket instead of six.

“It would have been better if we had a team of eight instead of six in the first class.”

Mohammad Yousuf has represented Pakistan in all three formats, he played 90 test matches and 288 ODIs and 3 T20Is for Pakistan where he notched up 7530 runs, 9720 runs and 50 runs respectively.

https://arysports.tv/mohammad-yousuf-out-pcb-giving-misbah-dual-role/

 

[Usman]

Mohammed Yousuf is one of the most bitter ex-players in the whole of Pakistan. The article above is just laughable. The 'everything is wrong, nothing is right' mentality is clear to see. Not to mention it is factually inaccurate - Misbah was not on the committee to select the Head Coach!

Yousuf please stay away from Pakistani cricket. The day Inzamam retired, you became a monster who has tried his best to undermine Pakistani cricket in every way. The country doesn't need "experts" like you. Please keep your negative opinions to yourself.

 

[PakPremi]

And I was led to believe that Misbah wanted Azhar so badly that he recommended him as ODI captain.

 

[Hawkeye]

Lol.

MOYO IS BACK with his Misbah bashing and extreme hate.

Takes the crown for being the most jealous, hate-filled ex-cricketer.

 

[PakPremi]

I think in his hate he said out the wrong name he must have meant Asad Shafiq. I know he has been preaching for his inclusion in the team for long time.

 

[Hitman]

Why does he dislike Misbah so much?

 

[Usman Chadda]

Interesting how Yousuf was absent from the spotlight during the last four years

 

[silentkiller187]

The fact is we had a shortlist of coaches, which Misbah helped select, and they were not good enough, Misbah has probably impressed whoever was on the committee and therefore got the gig. Do you think if any half decent international coach like Hesson wanted to join Pakistan we would have still gone for Misbah.

 

[silentkiller187]

Why does he dislike Misbah so much?

Because Misbah achieved something none of our "ATG" seniors ever achieved in their careers as a captain of Pakistan.

 

[The_KING]

Why does he dislike Misbah so much?

Because Misbah took Yousuf’s place in the T20 World Cup In 2007. Also Yousuf never played for Pakistan again after Misbah became the captain in 2010. Yousuf is a bitter jealous guy who massively underachieved despite his tremendous talent. While, Misbah made the most of his limited talent. Yousuf is simply a jealous bitter man.

 

[Varun]

Because Misbah took Yousuf’s place in the T20 World Cup In 2007. Also Yousuf never played for Pakistan again after Misbah became the captain in 2010. Yousuf is a bitter jealous guy who massively underachieved despite his tremendous talent. While, Misbah made the most of his limited talent. Yousuf is simply a jealous bitter man.

So shouldn't Yousuf channel his ire toward the selectors of the time and not Misbah?

 

[Pakhs]

So shouldn't Yousuf channel his ire toward the selectors of the time and not Misbah?

There is more to it than we know but Misbahs rise coincided with Yousuf downfall that too when Yousuf still had cricket left in him.

 

[shaz619]

There is more to it than we know but Misbahs rise coincided with Yousuf downfall that too when Yousuf still had cricket left in him.

Yousef had a massive ego and entitled mindset, he never bothered to play domestic cricket. As a personality he was a toxic individual to, you don't want an evil / vindictive guy like him in the team so even though he was past it Pak wanted to move on from folk like him and there began our rise to no.1 and undefeated streak in the UAE under Misbah's captaincy who was a decent bloke to

 

[Savak]

The point being raised by Yousaf is valid, Misbah being on the committee which chose not to give Mickey Arthur an extension and then deciding to apply to replace is a massive conflict of interest which would not have been allowed any where else

 

[Shazzam]

I agree with Yousaf.

 

[Hasan123]

He has a point about Misbah being on the panel that sacked Arthur than being appointed coach.

It honestly doesn't look good.

 

[Rellu_Katta]

M Yousaf shld first point out that his opinion on Misbah is as biased as it can be.... Misbah was preferd over him in 2007 WC and then Misbah pratically replaced him in LOI and test teams.. + Yousaf is one of the biggest liar, muafiq and cheater... wasnt he the one with Malik trying to get rid of younis khan as captain? and being the trouble creater in the team?

 

[Mamoon]

It is easy for people to say that he is bitter, but we need to put ourselves in his shoes and realize that he has every right to be disappointed.

The way PCB pulled a plug on his career in 2010 was grossly unfair. He was three levels above Misbah as a batsman. With Inzamam retiring in 2007, Misbah should have been his direct replacement. There was more than enough room in the lineup for Yousuf, Younis and Misbah to play together. However, PCB completely closed the door on him and kept playing vastly inferior players in both Tests and ODIs.

He could have easily played 2014-2015. Yes he wasn’t faultless and his attitude was quite poor, but sometimes you have to make exceptions for one of your greatest ever batsmen when you are not a top quality team. Younis also pulled plenty of stunts but PCB didn’t terminate his career prematurely, and even Yousuf was even more valuable because he was top quality in both formats.

We kept playing mediocrities like Azhar and Shafiq in Tests who clearly don’t have the talent to be A-grade players, and we kept playing both, Younis and even the likes of Farhat in the early 2010s when our ODI batting was utter garbage. Even Umar had completely lost it by 2011-2012. In the UAE, Yousuf would have easily matched Younis’ performance if not done better, since he repeatedly proved himself to be the superior player during the time they played together in the same team.

Yousuf has all the reasons to be upset because had PCB not ended his career, most of the Pakistani batting records would have had his name on it. People are right in pointing out that his anger should be directed at the PCB rather than Misbah, but it is only natural to develop feelings of jealously when a clearly inferior player was given preferential treatment at your expense.

The unfortunate demise of Yousuf’s career was one of the casualties of the toxic and chaotic era of Pakistan cricket, i.e. 2007 to 2011. PCB was led by headless chickens and the team was all over the place after the Inzamam-Woolmer nexus ended. If only Younis had not backed out from captaincy after the 2007 World Cup, Pakistan cricket and Yousuf’s career could have taken a completely different turn.

Yousuf is criminally underrated on this forum primarily because the average age of this forum is going down. Quite a few senior posters have retired and there has been a influx of young posters who don’t remember the pre-2010 era.

Anyone who followed Pakistan cricket in the late 90’s and 2000s would tell you that it is ridiculous to but him and Misbah in the same breath as batsmen. Yousuf was in the class of someone like Sangakkara and there was hardly any difference between them during the 2000s. He could have matched his career by numbers had he played for a few more years.

He simply does not get the recognition and credit that he deserves on this forum. People are either too young to remember his career or do not remember him in a positive light because of all the stuff that happened at the back-end of his career (fights with PCB, awful captaincy including Sydney Test, getting banned for life by Ijaz Butt) and his comments post-retirement. However, none of that changes the fact that he is easily among the top 3-4 batsmen produced by Pakistan across formats.

 

[anakwalajinn]

It is easy for people to say that he is bitter, but we need to put ourselves in his shoes and realize that he has every right to be disappointed.

The way PCB pulled a plug on his career in 2010 was grossly unfair. He was three levels above Misbah as a batsman. With Inzamam retiring in 2007, Misbah should have been his direct replacement. There was more than enough room in the lineup for Yousuf, Younis and Misbah to play together. However, PCB completely closed the door on him and kept playing vastly inferior players in both Tests and ODIs.

He could have easily played 2014-2015. Yes he wasn’t faultless and his attitude was quite poor, but sometimes you have to make exceptions for one of your greatest ever batsmen when you are not a top quality team. Younis also pulled plenty of stunts but PCB didn’t terminate his career prematurely, and even Yousuf was even more valuable because he was top quality in both formats.

We kept playing mediocrities like Azhar and Shafiq in Tests who clearly don’t have the talent to be A-grade players, and we kept playing both, Younis and even the likes of Farhat in the early 2010s when our ODI batting was utter garbage. Even Umar had completely lost it by 2011-2012. In the UAE, Yousuf would have easily matched Younis’ performance if not done better, since he repeatedly proved himself to be the superior player during the time they played together in the same team.

Yousuf has all the reasons to be upset because had PCB not ended his career, most of the Pakistani batting records would have had his name on it. People are right in pointing out that his anger should be directed at the PCB rather than Misbah, but it is only natural to develop feelings of jealously when a clearly inferior player was given preferential treatment at your expense.

The unfortunate demise of Yousuf’s career was one of the casualties of the toxic and chaotic era of Pakistan cricket, i.e. 2007 to 2011. PCB was led by headless chickens and the team was all over the place after the Inzamam-Woolmer nexus ended. If only Younis had not backed out from captaincy after the 2007 World Cup, Pakistan cricket and Yousuf’s career could have taken a completely different turn.

Yousuf is criminally underrated on this forum primarily because the average age of this forum is going down. Quite a few senior posters have retired and there has been a influx of young posters who don’t remember the pre-2010 era.

Anyone who followed Pakistan cricket in the late 90’s and 2000s would tell you that it is ridiculous to but him and Misbah in the same breath as batsmen. Yousuf was in the class of someone like Sangakkara and there was hardly any difference between them during the 2000s. He could have matched his career by numbers had he played for a few more years.

He simply does not get the recognition and credit that he deserves on this forum. People are either too young to remember his career or do not remember him in a positive light because of all the stuff that happened at the back-end of his career (fights with PCB, awful captaincy including Sydney Test, getting banned for life by Ijaz Butt) and his comments post-retirement. However, none of that changes the fact that he is easily among the top 3-4 batsmen produced by Pakistan across formats.

Hardly ever agree with your views, but very well put! A definite candidate for POTW!

 

[Savak]

It is easy for people to say that he is bitter, but we need to put ourselves in his shoes and realize that he has every right to be disappointed.

The way PCB pulled a plug on his career in 2010 was grossly unfair. He was three levels above Misbah as a batsman. With Inzamam retiring in 2007, Misbah should have been his direct replacement. There was more than enough room in the lineup for Yousuf, Younis and Misbah to play together. However, PCB completely closed the door on him and kept playing vastly inferior players in both Tests and ODIs.

He could have easily played 2014-2015. Yes he wasn’t faultless and his attitude was quite poor, but sometimes you have to make exceptions for one of your greatest ever batsmen when you are not a top quality team. Younis also pulled plenty of stunts but PCB didn’t terminate his career prematurely, and even Yousuf was even more valuable because he was top quality in both formats.

We kept playing mediocrities like Azhar and Shafiq in Tests who clearly don’t have the talent to be A-grade players, and we kept playing both, Younis and even the likes of Farhat in the early 2010s when our ODI batting was utter garbage. Even Umar had completely lost it by 2011-2012. In the UAE, Yousuf would have easily matched Younis’ performance if not done better, since he repeatedly proved himself to be the superior player during the time they played together in the same team.

Yousuf has all the reasons to be upset because had PCB not ended his career, most of the Pakistani batting records would have had his name on it. People are right in pointing out that his anger should be directed at the PCB rather than Misbah, but it is only natural to develop feelings of jealously when a clearly inferior player was given preferential treatment at your expense.

The unfortunate demise of Yousuf’s career was one of the casualties of the toxic and chaotic era of Pakistan cricket, i.e. 2007 to 2011. PCB was led by headless chickens and the team was all over the place after the Inzamam-Woolmer nexus ended. If only Younis had not backed out from captaincy after the 2007 World Cup, Pakistan cricket and Yousuf’s career could have taken a completely different turn.

Yousuf is criminally underrated on this forum primarily because the average age of this forum is going down. Quite a few senior posters have retired and there has been a influx of young posters who don’t remember the pre-2010 era.

Anyone who followed Pakistan cricket in the late 90’s and 2000s would tell you that it is ridiculous to but him and Misbah in the same breath as batsmen. Yousuf was in the class of someone like Sangakkara and there was hardly any difference between them during the 2000s. He could have matched his career by numbers had he played for a few more years.

He simply does not get the recognition and credit that he deserves on this forum. People are either too young to remember his career or do not remember him in a positive light because of all the stuff that happened at the back-end of his career (fights with PCB, awful captaincy including Sydney Test, getting banned for life by Ijaz Butt) and his comments post-retirement. However, none of that changes the fact that he is easily among the top 3-4 batsmen produced by Pakistan across formats.

Yousaf's downfall really started once the PCB sacked him from the T-20 WC squad in 2007 and apparently that was also done under Malik's insistence. It was also during the time period 2008 where Pakistan did not play a single test match and not enough international cricket, Yousaf then signed with the ICL but got recalled into the Pakistani team by 2009.

He was never given the confidence and security a senior player deserved since then.

 

[Usman Chadda]

It is easy for people to say that he is bitter, but we need to put ourselves in his shoes and realize that he has every right to be disappointed.

The way PCB pulled a plug on his career in 2010 was grossly unfair. He was three levels above Misbah as a batsman. With Inzamam retiring in 2007, Misbah should have been his direct replacement. There was more than enough room in the lineup for Yousuf, Younis and Misbah to play together. However, PCB completely closed the door on him and kept playing vastly inferior players in both Tests and ODIs.

He could have easily played 2014-2015. Yes he wasn’t faultless and his attitude was quite poor, but sometimes you have to make exceptions for one of your greatest ever batsmen when you are not a top quality team. Younis also pulled plenty of stunts but PCB didn’t terminate his career prematurely, and even Yousuf was even more valuable because he was top quality in both formats.

We kept playing mediocrities like Azhar and Shafiq in Tests who clearly don’t have the talent to be A-grade players, and we kept playing both, Younis and even the likes of Farhat in the early 2010s when our ODI batting was utter garbage. Even Umar had completely lost it by 2011-2012. In the UAE, Yousuf would have easily matched Younis’ performance if not done better, since he repeatedly proved himself to be the superior player during the time they played together in the same team.

Yousuf has all the reasons to be upset because had PCB not ended his career, most of the Pakistani batting records would have had his name on it. People are right in pointing out that his anger should be directed at the PCB rather than Misbah, but it is only natural to develop feelings of jealously when a clearly inferior player was given preferential treatment at your expense.

The unfortunate demise of Yousuf’s career was one of the casualties of the toxic and chaotic era of Pakistan cricket, i.e. 2007 to 2011. PCB was led by headless chickens and the team was all over the place after the Inzamam-Woolmer nexus ended. If only Younis had not backed out from captaincy after the 2007 World Cup, Pakistan cricket and Yousuf’s career could have taken a completely different turn.

Yousuf is criminally underrated on this forum primarily because the average age of this forum is going down. Quite a few senior posters have retired and there has been a influx of young posters who don’t remember the pre-2010 era.

Anyone who followed Pakistan cricket in the late 90’s and 2000s would tell you that it is ridiculous to but him and Misbah in the same breath as batsmen. Yousuf was in the class of someone like Sangakkara and there was hardly any difference between them during the 2000s. He could have matched his career by numbers had he played for a few more years.

He simply does not get the recognition and credit that he deserves on this forum. People are either too young to remember his career or do not remember him in a positive light because of all the stuff that happened at the back-end of his career (fights with PCB, awful captaincy including Sydney Test, getting banned for life by Ijaz Butt) and his comments post-retirement. However, none of that changes the fact that he is easily among the top 3-4 batsmen produced by Pakistan across formats.

I believe PCB was sick of Yousuf's regular attitude issues. He did play the last series before Misbah became captain.

He did have a prima-donna attitude, culminating in that embarrassing Australian tour of 2009-10. Ofcourse Pakistan would have been smashed regardless of what happed, but his childish politics did leave a bad taste. For such a wonderful player, his attitude issues were possibly the final nail in the coffin.

Similar goes for Razzaq, although Razzaq was quite sub-dued compared to MoYo.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

The PCB at that time really screwed up.

 

[Savak]

I believe PCB was sick of Yousuf's regular attitude issues. He did play the last series before Misbah became captain.

He did have a prima-donna attitude, culminating in that embarrassing Australian tour of 2009-10. Ofcourse Pakistan would have been smashed regardless of what happed, but his childish politics did leave a bad taste. For such a wonderful player, his attitude issues were possibly the final nail in the coffin.

Similar goes for Razzaq, although Razzaq was quite sub-dued compared to MoYo.

To be honest, Yousaf never really held the PCB hostage or ransom to the level Younis Khan did.

I actually believe it was Waqar who spearheaded Yousaf's ouster from the team as he wanted a team of youngsters. Yousaf also requested many meetings with the PCB chairmen of the time like Ijaz Butt and Zaka Ashraf but they paid no heed.

Such criminal mismanagement

 

[Usman Chadda]

To be honest, Yousaf never really held the PCB hostage or ransom to the level Younis Khan did.

I actually believe it was Waqar who spearheaded Yousaf's ouster from the team as he wanted a team of youngsters. Yousaf also requested many meetings with the PCB chairmen of the time like Ijaz Butt and Zaka Ashraf but they paid no heed.

Such criminal mismanagement

Younis had his own issues, but I guess the PCB at the time stuck by him since Misbah and Waqar got along with him. Yousuf had no such luxury, and rightly so to be honest. There was just too much baggage.

I highly doubt Yousuf's anger is ONLY due to 2007 WT20s omission in favour of Misbah. Either way, he needs to let it go and focus on contributing to Pakistan cricket.

 

[msb314]

It is easy for people to say that he is bitter, but we need to put ourselves in his shoes and realize that he has every right to be disappointed.

The way PCB pulled a plug on his career in 2010 was grossly unfair. He was three levels above Misbah as a batsman. With Inzamam retiring in 2007, Misbah should have been his direct replacement. There was more than enough room in the lineup for Yousuf, Younis and Misbah to play together. However, PCB completely closed the door on him and kept playing vastly inferior players in both Tests and ODIs.

He could have easily played 2014-2015. Yes he wasn’t faultless and his attitude was quite poor, but sometimes you have to make exceptions for one of your greatest ever batsmen when you are not a top quality team. Younis also pulled plenty of stunts but PCB didn’t terminate his career prematurely, and even Yousuf was even more valuable because he was top quality in both formats.

We kept playing mediocrities like Azhar and Shafiq in Tests who clearly don’t have the talent to be A-grade players, and we kept playing both, Younis and even the likes of Farhat in the early 2010s when our ODI batting was utter garbage. Even Umar had completely lost it by 2011-2012. In the UAE, Yousuf would have easily matched Younis’ performance if not done better, since he repeatedly proved himself to be the superior player during the time they played together in the same team.

Yousuf has all the reasons to be upset because had PCB not ended his career, most of the Pakistani batting records would have had his name on it. People are right in pointing out that his anger should be directed at the PCB rather than Misbah, but it is only natural to develop feelings of jealously when a clearly inferior player was given preferential treatment at your expense.

The unfortunate demise of Yousuf’s career was one of the casualties of the toxic and chaotic era of Pakistan cricket, i.e. 2007 to 2011. PCB was led by headless chickens and the team was all over the place after the Inzamam-Woolmer nexus ended. If only Younis had not backed out from captaincy after the 2007 World Cup, Pakistan cricket and Yousuf’s career could have taken a completely different turn.

Yousuf is criminally underrated on this forum primarily because the average age of this forum is going down. Quite a few senior posters have retired and there has been a influx of young posters who don’t remember the pre-2010 era.

Anyone who followed Pakistan cricket in the late 90’s and 2000s would tell you that it is ridiculous to but him and Misbah in the same breath as batsmen. Yousuf was in the class of someone like Sangakkara and there was hardly any difference between them during the 2000s. He could have matched his career by numbers had he played for a few more years.

He simply does not get the recognition and credit that he deserves on this forum. People are either too young to remember his career or do not remember him in a positive light because of all the stuff that happened at the back-end of his career (fights with PCB, awful captaincy including Sydney Test, getting banned for life by Ijaz Butt) and his comments post-retirement. However, none of that changes the fact that he is easily among the top 3-4 batsmen produced by Pakistan across formats.

I generally agree with the gist of what you are saying but I think there is more to the story than that.

I certainly remember MoYo’s glory days - especially from 2004-2007 and I can definitely tell you that MoYo was not needed in the Test team from 2009 and onwards. He could never dominate Asian conditions like Inzy, YK or even Misbah could and simply struggled against quality spin in Asia - where we played most of our cricket anyway. His ouster from the Test team was not a huge loss IMO.

However - ODI’s was a different story and he was a quality LOI player. Criminally underrated and could pace his innings right up there with the best of his era. His 15 ODI hundreds was only exceeded by a handful of players when he had quit ODI’s by 2009. Even during the twilight of his years - his knock against India in the 2009 CT was a treat to watch and he was massively missed during the 2011 WC alongside Malik despite his reputation as being s choker.

All that being said - you have to understand that the 2009/10 tour of Australia was a disaster of epic proportions and many players saw their Test careers getting prematurely ended including the Akmal brothers, Danish Kaneria, Fawad Alam and also MoYo.. The fact that he was the captain and match fixing was happening right under his nose did not bode well for the PCB and in hindsight - that was the final straw that broke the camels back.

All in all - a great career but some poor decisions on both sides such as MoYo not managing the team well during the Aus tour of 2009-10 and him joining ICL in 2007 alongside PCB removing him from the LOI side by 2010 prematurely terminated that relationship and he remains bitter to this day.

 

[Saj]

The strange thing is that this dislike is just one-way, Misbah has a lot of respect and time for Yousuf.

 

[Savak]

Younis had his own issues, but I guess the PCB at the time stuck by him since Misbah and Waqar got along with him. Yousuf had no such luxury, and rightly so to be honest. There was just too much baggage.

I highly doubt Yousuf's anger is ONLY due to 2007 WT20s omission in favour of Misbah. Either way, he needs to let it go and focus on contributing to Pakistan cricket.

Unless you have proof that Yousaf had been causing disciplinary issues or creating trouble in the team, your statement about Yousaf being treated this way is just based on personal dislike and a hogwash. The mistreatment of Yousaf and wastage of a batting legend was criminal on the part of the PCB and the then team management

 

[Faiz1978]

I agree with Yousuf

 

[Savak]

I generally agree with the gist of what you are saying but I think there is more to the story than that.

I certainly remember MoYo’s glory days - especially from 2004-2007 and I can definitely tell you that MoYo was not needed in the Test team from 2009 and onwards. He could never dominate Asian conditions like Inzy, YK or even Misbah could and simply struggled against quality spin in Asia - where we played most of our cricket anyway. His ouster from the Test team was not a huge loss IMO.

However - ODI’s was a different story and he was a quality LOI player. Criminally underrated and could pace his innings right up there with the best of his era. His 15 ODI hundreds was only exceeded by a handful of players when he had quit ODI’s by 2009. Even during the twilight of his years - his knock against India in the 2009 CT was a treat to watch and he was massively missed during the 2011 WC alongside Malik despite his reputation as being s choker.

All that being said - you have to understand that the 2009/10 tour of Australia was a disaster of epic proportions and many players saw their Test careers getting prematurely ended including the Akmal brothers, Danish Kaneria, Fawad Alam and also MoYo.. The fact that he was the captain and match fixing was happening right under his nose did not bode well for the PCB and in hindsight - that was the final straw that broke the camels back.

All in all - a great career but some poor decisions on both sides such as MoYo not managing the team well during the Aus tour of 2009-10 and him joining ICL in 2007 alongside PCB removing him from the LOI side by 2010 prematurely terminated that relationship and he remains bitter to this day.

These issues are being overblown. Yousaf was recalled to the side on the England tour, he unfortunately had some fitness problem where he tore his hamstring before the SA tour in the UAE due to which he was ruled out for the T-20's and first 4 ODI's, he was recalled for the 5th ODI but unfortunately suffered a reoccurence of the hamstring problem which resulted in him missing the test series.

Since then the Pakistan Cricket team management and PCB in general just forgot Mohd Yousaf existed. He was never ever considered for selection again. When Dav Whatmore became coach it was upon his insistence that Yousaf was called to the nets and he looked good in the nets but the PCB was upset with him for calling him without their permission and refused to consider him.

Yousaf is very upset at the manner his services to the country were ignored and the manner in which he was discarded and he is absolutely right. This is no way to treat your players where you dismiss them like garbage. Waqar is responsible in my view as he would have spearheaded the decision and unfortunately its all based on the grudge he holds against players stemming from the 2003 WC and he had his guns aimed at the players close to Wasim Akram.

 

[DRsohail]

It is easy for people to say that he is bitter, but we need to put ourselves in his shoes and realize that he has every right to be disappointed.

The way PCB pulled a plug on his career in 2010 was grossly unfair. He was three levels above Misbah as a batsman. With Inzamam retiring in 2007, Misbah should have been his direct replacement. There was more than enough room in the lineup for Yousuf, Younis and Misbah to play together. However, PCB completely closed the door on him and kept playing vastly inferior players in both Tests and ODIs.

He could have easily played 2014-2015. Yes he wasn’t faultless and his attitude was quite poor, but sometimes you have to make exceptions for one of your greatest ever batsmen when you are not a top quality team. Younis also pulled plenty of stunts but PCB didn’t terminate his career prematurely, and even Yousuf was even more valuable because he was top quality in both formats.

We kept playing mediocrities like Azhar and Shafiq in Tests who clearly don’t have the talent to be A-grade players, and we kept playing both, Younis and even the likes of Farhat in the early 2010s when our ODI batting was utter garbage. Even Umar had completely lost it by 2011-2012. In the UAE, Yousuf would have easily matched Younis’ performance if not done better, since he repeatedly proved himself to be the superior player during the time they played together in the same team.

Yousuf has all the reasons to be upset because had PCB not ended his career, most of the Pakistani batting records would have had his name on it. People are right in pointing out that his anger should be directed at the PCB rather than Misbah, but it is only natural to develop feelings of jealously when a clearly inferior player was given preferential treatment at your expense.

The unfortunate demise of Yousuf’s career was one of the casualties of the toxic and chaotic era of Pakistan cricket, i.e. 2007 to 2011. PCB was led by headless chickens and the team was all over the place after the Inzamam-Woolmer nexus ended. If only Younis had not backed out from captaincy after the 2007 World Cup, Pakistan cricket and Yousuf’s career could have taken a completely different turn.

Yousuf is criminally underrated on this forum primarily because the average age of this forum is going down. Quite a few senior posters have retired and there has been a influx of young posters who don’t remember the pre-2010 era.

Anyone who followed Pakistan cricket in the late 90’s and 2000s would tell you that it is ridiculous to but him and Misbah in the same breath as batsmen. Yousuf was in the class of someone like Sangakkara and there was hardly any difference between them during the 2000s. He could have matched his career by numbers had he played for a few more years.

He simply does not get the recognition and credit that he deserves on this forum. People are either too young to remember his career or do not remember him in a positive light because of all the stuff that happened at the back-end of his career (fights with PCB, awful captaincy including Sydney Test, getting banned for life by Ijaz Butt) and his comments post-retirement. However, none of that changes the fact that he is easily among the top 3-4 batsmen produced by Pakistan across formats.

Very well explained, and to add mat be yosuf means he did conflict of interest by removing Micky.

 

[the_game]

Yousuf was ten times the batsman Misbah was. We have too many mediocrity-loving Misbah fans on this forum unfortunately, and nothing this supposed angel of Pakistani cricket does will ever get questioned.

 

[Kroll]

Yousuf is criminally underrated on this forum primarily because the average age of this forum is going down. Quite a few senior posters have retired and there has been a influx of young posters who don’t remember the pre-2010 era.

Anyone who followed Pakistan cricket in the late 90’s and 2000s would tell you that it is ridiculous to but him and Misbah in the same breath as batsmen. Yousuf was in the class of someone like Sangakkara and there was hardly any difference between them during the 2000s. He could have matched his career by numbers had he played for a few more years.

Yousuf was ten times the batsman Misbah was. We have too many mediocrity-loving Misbah fans on this forum unfortunately, and nothing this supposed angel of Pakistani cricket does will ever get questioned.

Right on cue.

 

[MenInG]

Yousuf was ten times the batsman Misbah was. We have too many mediocrity-loving Misbah fans on this forum unfortunately, and nothing this supposed angel of Pakistani cricket does will ever get questioned.

And what has he done?

 

[sweep_shot]

Very bitter from Yousuf. Quite unnecessary.

No need to create toxic environment.

 

[Syed1]

Not a fan of Yousuf's ranting but he is spelling out some inconvenient truth which Misbah fans are having trouble in digesting.


Misbah the savior was in the committee that fired Arthur, if that isn't a conflict of interest idk what is.

 

[Savak]

And what has he done?

How about being on the committee which refused to extend Mickey Arthur and then decided to replace him? Even Mohsin Khan had the sense to resign from the committee way back before deciding to apply for the coaching role

 

[Syed1]

How about being on the committee which refused to extend Mickey Arthur and then decided to replace him? Even Mohsin Khan had the sense to resign from the committee way back before deciding to apply for the coaching role

First he fires Arthur and then appoints himself as coach..... Mashallah all hail the saviour

 

[IMMY69]

I’ll keep my personal feelings about yousuf to myself and in the end Misbah May turn out to be a great coach cum selector... however he should not have been in the Committee to select the coach.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Unless you have proof that Yousaf had been causing disciplinary issues or creating trouble in the team, your statement about Yousaf being treated this way is just based on personal dislike and a hogwash. The mistreatment of Yousaf and wastage of a batting legend was criminal on the part of the PCB and the then team management

I guess you were sleeping through 2009-10.

Yousuf was/is a toxic individual, no two ways about it. What happened to him was unfortunate, as PCB should have managed him a lot better than they had. But the constant rona-dhona about captaincy and seniority was sick. Stop being biased and face the facts.

 

[the_game]

I don't think there has ever been a bigger example of conflict of interest in Pakistan cricket as the circumstances that led to Misbah being selected as coach.

Not the saint that everyone makes him out to be, that's for sure.

 

[msb314]

These issues are being overblown. Yousaf was recalled to the side on the England tour, he unfortunately had some fitness problem where he tore his hamstring before the SA tour in the UAE due to which he was ruled out for the T-20's and first 4 ODI's, he was recalled for the 5th ODI but unfortunately suffered a reoccurence of the hamstring problem which resulted in him missing the test series.

Since then the Pakistan Cricket team management and PCB in general just forgot Mohd Yousaf existed. He was never ever considered for selection again. When Dav Whatmore became coach it was upon his insistence that Yousaf was called to the nets and he looked good in the nets but the PCB was upset with him for calling him without their permission and refused to consider him.

Yousaf is very upset at the manner his services to the country were ignored and the manner in which he was discarded and he is absolutely right. This is no way to treat your players where you dismiss them like garbage. Waqar is responsible in my view as he would have spearheaded the decision and unfortunately its all based on the grudge he holds against players stemming from the 2003 WC and he had his guns aimed at the players close to Wasim Akram.

You bring a good point so I’ll ask again why did the PCB forget that MoYo “existed”?

The crux of the problem goes back to the Sydney Test of 2009/10. I have mentioned several times but will say it again that Faisal Iqbal, Fawad Alam, Danish Kaneria and the Akmal brothers saw their Test careers cut short due to the events of that tour.

MoYo was punished for being the captain during that disastrous tour - no two ways to put it...

 

[Kroll]

Notwithstanding the blabberings of bitter ex-cricketers and pundits alike, for a man of so-called honesty and integrity, what Misbah did was downright shady. In the process helping himself to some hefty pay cheques.

 

[Kaka4pope]

For a side that isn't blessed with regular batting pedigree - what’s the age range of Yousuf, Younis, Misbah and Inzi....don’t think it’s large from youngest to oldest yet I don’t think we ever saw them once (for a plethora of very ‘Pakistan cricket’ reasons) play together from 3-6 in test or odi.

Yousuf was a very high pedigree player - 3 centuries in England in his record year, two being daddies. Have seen him compared by some to Ian Bell at stages of his career....please.

His media outbursts aren’t helpful at all, he had at least another 30 tests in him I reckon, cruising runs at 4.

Heavy scorer, and with such style

 

[shaz619]

Misbah is indeed a saviour his damn resume says so! and every hater is a peasant in comparison truthfully, his success and charisma, education background and all round alpha male status in society is what puts smaller men off and that is a shame because their insecurity and mental health is holding them back

 

[Mamoon]

[MENTION=137804]msb314[/MENTION]

Yousuf wasn’t great on rank turners, but you don’t have them in the UAE. He would have been very prolific in those conditions. I don’t think an argument can be made for ousting him prematurely when you end up replacing him with mediocre batsmen. A weak batting side like Pakistan shot themselves in the foot when they forced one of their greatest batsmen ever into early retirement.

 

[Kroll]

I don't think there has ever been a bigger example of conflict of interest in Pakistan cricket as the circumstances that led to Misbah being selected as coach.

Not the saint that everyone makes him out to be, that's for sure.

That title belongs to Younis, Misbah is the saviour.

 

[moghul]

Because Misbah achieved something none of our "ATG" seniors ever achieved in their careers as a captain of Pakistan.

Yes, none of our great players had the unique opportunity to fire a qualified coach and taking over the job himself with out any qualification. And, none had the distinction of becoming coach and chief selector at the same time.

 

[The_KING]

I don't think there has ever been a bigger example of conflict of interest in Pakistan cricket as the circumstances that led to Misbah being selected as coach.

Not the saint that everyone makes him out to be, that's for sure.

There is not a single Misbah fan who makes him out to be a saint. We know his limitations but there are plenty of Misbah haters such as yourself who make him out to be the villain and responsible for everything wrong with Pakistan cricket.

 

[Slim]

Lol.

MOYO IS BACK with his Misbah bashing and extreme hate.

Takes the crown for being the most jealous, hate-filled ex-cricketer.

Jealous of what? MOYO is an ATG. What has Misbah achieved?

Hes right, its clear that Misbah is a doo numbar insan considering he was in the cricketing committee that removed Arthur. At least MHK had the decency to resign before applying but Misbah, nah.

 

[daytrader]

is MoYo involved in any capacity with the PCB? he's just making statments for the sake of attention.

Yes he was a greater batsman compared to Misbah, but that doesn't make him a better man. Always bitter and throwing allegations. If he has interests in improving Pakistan Cricket then he needs to put aside his ego and work with the PCB. He ruined his own career due to his ego, post retirement he shouldn't lose the little respect he has remaining. He needs to man up and work for Pakistan cricket rather than talk on all these channels

There is no conflict of interest, look a the time lines please. The committee decided not to renew the coaching staff's contract a month before Misbah was appointed. At that time the committee's sole purpose was to decide on whether the coaching staff should continue and not who to appoint as the new coach.

 

[moghul]

Because Misbah achieved something none of our "ATG" seniors ever achieved in their careers as a captain of Pakistan.

Yes, none of other cricketers from Pakistan could kept playing international till he was 43 and led Pakistan to humiliation in many overseas trip, particularly in WC and downsouth.

No other Pakistani cricket was awarded with a job to fire a qualified coach and appointing himself with a coaching job with no qualification and experience.

Even with being a much inferior cricketer and batsman than many of his counterparts Misbah and no other Pakistani cricketer has been awarded with a job of coach and chief selector simultaneously.

 

[moghul]

It is easy for people to say that he is bitter, but we need to put ourselves in his shoes and realize that he has every right to be disappointed.

The way PCB pulled a plug on his career in 2010 was grossly unfair. He was three levels above Misbah as a batsman. With Inzamam retiring in 2007, Misbah should have been his direct replacement. There was more than enough room in the lineup for Yousuf, Younis and Misbah to play together. However, PCB completely closed the door on him and kept playing vastly inferior players in both Tests and ODIs.

He could have easily played 2014-2015. Yes he wasn’t faultless and his attitude was quite poor, but sometimes you have to make exceptions for one of your greatest ever batsmen when you are not a top quality team. Younis also pulled plenty of stunts but PCB didn’t terminate his career prematurely, and even Yousuf was even more valuable because he was top quality in both formats.

We kept playing mediocrities like Azhar and Shafiq in Tests who clearly don’t have the talent to be A-grade players, and we kept playing both, Younis and even the likes of Farhat in the early 2010s when our ODI batting was utter garbage. Even Umar had completely lost it by 2011-2012. In the UAE, Yousuf would have easily matched Younis’ performance if not done better, since he repeatedly proved himself to be the superior player during the time they played together in the same team.

Yousuf has all the reasons to be upset because had PCB not ended his career, most of the Pakistani batting records would have had his name on it. People are right in pointing out that his anger should be directed at the PCB rather than Misbah, but it is only natural to develop feelings of jealously when a clearly inferior player was given preferential treatment at your expense.

The unfortunate demise of Yousuf’s career was one of the casualties of the toxic and chaotic era of Pakistan cricket, i.e. 2007 to 2011. PCB was led by headless chickens and the team was all over the place after the Inzamam-Woolmer nexus ended. If only Younis had not backed out from captaincy after the 2007 World Cup, Pakistan cricket and Yousuf’s career could have taken a completely different turn.

Yousuf is criminally underrated on this forum primarily because the average age of this forum is going down. Quite a few senior posters have retired and there has been a influx of young posters who don’t remember the pre-2010 era.

Anyone who followed Pakistan cricket in the late 90’s and 2000s would tell you that it is ridiculous to but him and Misbah in the same breath as batsmen. Yousuf was in the class of someone like Sangakkara and there was hardly any difference between them during the 2000s. He could have matched his career by numbers had he played for a few more years.

He simply does not get the recognition and credit that he deserves on this forum. People are either too young to remember his career or do not remember him in a positive light because of all the stuff that happened at the back-end of his career (fights with PCB, awful captaincy including Sydney Test, getting banned for life by Ijaz Butt) and his comments post-retirement. However, none of that changes the fact that he is easily among the top 3-4 batsmen produced by Pakistan across formats.

Yousuf was even better than Younis in overseas tours. Misbah was of much lower class, should not be compared with those two.

 

[daytrader]

Yes, none of other cricketers from Pakistan could kept playing international till he was 43 and led Pakistan to humiliation in many overseas trip, particularly in WC and downsouth.

No other Pakistani cricket was awarded with a job to fire a qualified coach and appointing himself with a coaching job with no qualification and experience.

Even with being a much inferior cricketer and batsman than many of his counterparts Misbah and no other Pakistani cricketer has been awarded with a job of coach and chief selector simultaneously.

Maybe because they're not willing to be associated with the PCB. The dual role is tough and more than a full-time commitment. You need a man of courage that's willing to take on such responsibility. Fickle characters like some of our legends are not cut out for this.

 

[msb314]

[MENTION=137804]msb314[/MENTION]

Yousuf wasn’t great on rank turners, but you don’t have them in the UAE. He would have been very prolific in those conditions. I don’t think an argument can be made for ousting him prematurely when you end up replacing him with mediocre batsmen. A weak batting side like Pakistan shot themselves in the foot when they forced one of their greatest batsmen ever into early retirement.

UAE has also had some very difficult spinning conditions in the past - 3rd Test vs England in 2012 and the 2017 Test series vs SL come easily to mind. I would say that Misbah was a like for like replacement for MoYo in Asian Tests (of course MoYo being superior in nearly all other formats and conditions...) with the added bonus of being a gun UAE test captain. Not sure if dropping MoYo for UAE tests was the craziest idea in the world but wholeheartedly agree that MoYo should have carried on playing LOI until 2015...

 

[Slog]

MoYo’s downfall was his bitterness.

He got dropped from WT20 2007 and while there can be debates over if that was warranted one thing which is clear is that he wasn’t a 100% shoo-in for the team. His game didn’t fit that type of cricket and even at domestic level T20s he never set the stage slight. And certainly it had to be either him or Younis for the T20 team and not both so in the end in my opinion the correct decision was made.

But his bitterness was so much that instead of reflect or take it on the chin he just lost it and signed for ICL the following week. Ridiculous jazbaati insaan.

And then later he just unilaterally retired but made comeback middle of a series.

 

[ShahidNaziir]

How would moyo have known that the syndeygate was fixed? One can't assume it.. moyo still holds the record for most runs in test calendar year (2006), when he averaged 99.9 with 10 century incl 2 doubles

 

[Mamoon]

UAE has also had some very difficult spinning conditions in the past - 3rd Test vs England in 2012 and the 2017 Test series vs SL come easily to mind. I would say that Misbah was a like for like replacement for MoYo in Asian Tests (of course MoYo being superior in nearly all other formats and conditions...) with the added bonus of being a gun UAE test captain. Not sure if dropping MoYo for UAE tests was the craziest idea in the world but wholeheartedly agree that MoYo should have carried on playing LOI until 2015...

Misbah was a very solid Test batsman but he lacked the ability to score big hundreds. He never scored a double-hundred and his conversion rate was pretty poor.

MoYo had big appetite for scoring mammoth hundreds. It would have been great to have him and Younis bat together. Clearly an upgrade on Younis-Misbah partnership.

 

[MenInG]

Problem with MoYo is that he lacks basic judgement of what to say, and when!

His batting credentials are not under question here but his inability to articulate his points without looking bitter.

 

[ManFan]

Problem with MoYo is that he lacks basic judgement of what to say, and when!

His batting credentials are not under question here but his inability to articulate his points without looking bitter.

How does that remove the credibility of his claim that Misbah being on the committee to fire Mickey was a conflict of interest?

 

[Saj]

Awkward situation for Misbah and PCB and one which will increase the pressure on him.

You fire a guy and replace him yourself.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

'Awkward' is putting it mildly. Only success (and don't wait to long to get it, Misbah) will make the issue go away.

 

[Junaids]

Awkward situation for Misbah and PCB and one which will increase the pressure on him.

You fire a guy and replace him yourself.

Yes, but Yousuf’s comments are unfair and inaccurate.

Misbah has not shown a lack of honesty: that’s a totally unfounded accusation.

To be precise, Misbah has shown a lack of integrity, not a lack of honesty.

The two things are completely different.

Misbah’s behaviour is more like the President of a country awarding major defence contracts to his own company.

 

[Green Patriot]

We cant disagree with what he said however we may think that he bitter and likes to stir drama.What he has stated is absolutely valid.
It is a huge conflict of interest that first Misbah played a role in dismissing the Head Coach and then was appointed as the replacement.

 

[Barragan]

MoYo is spot on!

How can you come to the conclusion - that Micky isn't good enough and proceed to replace him, but you are several times inferior.

In what world is misbah even close to Micky as a coach? Only in the minds of the pcb and misbah himself.

 

[ShahidNaziir]

Moyo's gripe has always been that Misbah took his place in the team post the ICL debacle. Moyo's inflated ego didn't do him any good either, after he rushed to join ICL due to the snub of WT20 2007..
But i guess it 'd hurt any performer. Imagine coming off being the best player in the game of cricket (2006 December when he broken the long standing ViV Richard's record to become the best test batsman with the most runs in the calendar year) to being completely snubbed 7 months later

 

[ShahidNaziir]

away average of 44.5, centuries 7, double 1 (SA, Eng, WI, Aus, NZ)
career average of 52.3

Doesn't that make him the best Pak test batsman (away or home) by more than a country mile??
i did a fact check by comparing the same stat of Younis (Avg : 39) and Inzamam (Avg : 41)
and ATG Miandad (Avg : 46).

So it goes to show that at least consistency wise he was better than his two contemporaries at the time, and hence should have been the numero uno Test middle order

So that proves why he is still so bitter

 

[Big Mac]

“If the team is to be selected by the coaches, then why is the chief selector required and when will the head coach have time to see new players?”

This is the same question I've been asking myself since the appointment. He's been playing enough domestic cricket recently to have an idea of who the best players are but it's going to be impossible to stay up to date now that he's going to be going all round the world with the team with no time to watch domestic cricket.

As for the MoYo is an ATG talk, miss me with that nonsense. He was GOAT for about 18 months but either side of that was the epitome of the talented batsman who buckled under pressure.

 

[Kroll]

Being on the committee which itself carried a role of authority, he probably felt he was free to select or recommend anyone including himself. However, I have feeling the fans that are supporting him now will be the first queuing up demanding his head when results don't improve.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ve not posted anything bcuz my previous comments ve been taken personally. This was never my intention, any criticism in the past has always been intended to be constructive & not personal. However need to allow the new Management time to implement there vision & ideas <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvsSL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvsSL</a></p>— Mohammad Yousaf (@yousaf1788) <a href="https://twitter.com/yousaf1788/status/1181992692743573505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>