“Pakistan will not play any home series abroad”: Wasim Khan

[Titan24]

Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) CEO, Wasim Khan clarified that Pakistan will not play any of their home series abroad.

In an interview after New Zealand abandon their Pakistan’s tour unilaterally, Wasim emphasized that New Zealand’s decision has damaged our cricket heavily.

Wasim Khan said, “PCB has a clear vision for now that Pakistan will play home series in Pakistan only and will not play anywhere else for which we’re in talks with different boards. We’ve worked day and night to bring back international cricket in stadiums of Pakistan,”

“PCB worked hard in the recent past to win the faith of world cricket and resume international cricket in Pakistan. New Zealand has damaged the reputation & hard work of Pakistan. Financial damage is there but the credibility of Pakistan Cricket has been damaged heavily,”

Wasim also revealed that PCB chairman, Ramiz Raja has sent an official letter to New Zealand Cricket (NZC) for their foolish act.

He said, “Chairman PCB Ramiz Raja has written an official letter to NZC for what they’ve done. Pakistan will play T20 World Cup and is determined to win. We can’t wear black armbands as a protest during World Cup as this will become a political move,”

“PCB will take up the issue in front of ICC and will bring NZC on table. PCB believes in dialogue. Making decisions on their own and abandoning tour is injustice. I will say thoroughly that there is no security lapse or issues in Pakistan,”

“Abandoning tour by unilateral decision is not a wise move by them. This decision will damage Pakistan Cricket as we were looking forward to hosting international teams ahead. This damage will affect Pakistan Cricket negatively for a longer span,”

Wasim also New Zealand that in past when they needed help Pakistan and other teams toured to their country. Pakistan toured New Zealand in their toughest times when there was an attack on the mosque in Christchurch.

He said, “Pakistan toured New Zealand in tough times and underwent severe quarantine of two weeks. There was an attack on a mosque in NZ yet we didn’t step back. PCB has shown solidarity with world cricket at tough times yet decisions not made on basis of equality,”

He revealed that PCB had a talk with Sri Lanka and Bangladesh boards but they are preparing for ICC T20 World Cup Qualifiers in Oman and UAE, starting from 17th October.

Wasim Khan said, “PCB also contacted Sri Lanka and Bangladesh to tour Pakistan and both the boards accepted to tour but due to logistic issues and less time, this wouldn’t have been possible. Everyone is listening to solidarity with Pakistan Cricket made by cricket fraternity,”

However, he is confident that England men and women teams will tour Pakistan next month and support PCB.

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[Rana]

Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) CEO, Wasim Khan clarified that Pakistan will not play any of their home series abroad.

In an interview after New Zealand abandon their Pakistan’s tour unilaterally, Wasim emphasized that New Zealand’s decision has damaged our cricket heavily.

Wasim Khan said, “PCB has a clear vision for now that Pakistan will play home series in Pakistan only and will not play anywhere else for which we’re in talks with different boards. We’ve worked day and night to bring back international cricket in stadiums of Pakistan,”

“PCB worked hard in the recent past to win the faith of world cricket and resume international cricket in Pakistan. New Zealand has damaged the reputation & hard work of Pakistan. Financial damage is there but the credibility of Pakistan Cricket has been damaged heavily,”

Wasim also revealed that PCB chairman, Ramiz Raja has sent an official letter to New Zealand Cricket (NZC) for their foolish act.

He said, “Chairman PCB Ramiz Raja has written an official letter to NZC for what they’ve done. Pakistan will play T20 World Cup and is determined to win. We can’t wear black armbands as a protest during World Cup as this will become a political move,”

“PCB will take up the issue in front of ICC and will bring NZC on table. PCB believes in dialogue. Making decisions on their own and abandoning tour is injustice. I will say thoroughly that there is no security lapse or issues in Pakistan,”

“Abandoning tour by unilateral decision is not a wise move by them. This decision will damage Pakistan Cricket as we were looking forward to hosting international teams ahead. This damage will affect Pakistan Cricket negatively for a longer span,”

Wasim also New Zealand that in past when they needed help Pakistan and other teams toured to their country. Pakistan toured New Zealand in their toughest times when there was an attack on the mosque in Christchurch.

He said, “Pakistan toured New Zealand in tough times and underwent severe quarantine of two weeks. There was an attack on a mosque in NZ yet we didn’t step back. PCB has shown solidarity with world cricket at tough times yet decisions not made on basis of equality,”

He revealed that PCB had a talk with Sri Lanka and Bangladesh boards but they are preparing for ICC T20 World Cup Qualifiers in Oman and UAE, starting from 17th October.

Wasim Khan said, “PCB also contacted Sri Lanka and Bangladesh to tour Pakistan and both the boards accepted to tour but due to logistic issues and less time, this wouldn’t have been possible. Everyone is listening to solidarity with Pakistan Cricket made by cricket fraternity,”

However, he is confident that England men and women teams will tour Pakistan next month and support PCB.

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Who are Sri Lanka and Bangladesh preparing with?

 

[Titan24]

Irrespective of whether Eng and Aus tour or not, I appreciate this stance. As no point in going in the same loop of neutral venues and what not when there is no reason to now. I would accept less cricket then compromising on this stance.

 

[offstump]

If England tour it will be the ultimate slap in the face of NZC. Especially considering the UK is one of the main members of 5 eyes.

 

[Titan24]

Who are Sri Lanka and Bangladesh preparing with?

Maybe at home or ICC academy in UAE. They have to play ICC world T20 qualifiers so it’s understandable. As per Wasim’s press conference they have said we have no concerns in coming to Pak in future just like before.

 

[kingusama92]

Great answers.

There's no need to back down and NZ deserves a response like this.

 

[deep82]

With respect to WTC, Pakistan is scheduled to host Australia ( 2 ), England( 3) ans NZ (2).

So, will Pakistan demand forfeit in case they don't want to tour pakistan Or will ICC disqualifies Pakistan from WTC ?

 

[Savak]

Any team demanding a neutral venue should be told to pay up 100% of the costs

 

[sweep_shot]

Pakistan is perfectly safe for international cricket.

Therefore, any team that doesn't want to come should lose points.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Excellent decision.

Stick to it. We've come this far and we won't let any fake threat come in the way.

 

[Titan24]

With respect to WTC, Pakistan is scheduled to host Australia ( 2 ), England( 3) ans NZ (2).

So, will Pakistan demand forfeit in case they don't want to tour pakistan Or will ICC disqualifies Pakistan from WTC ?

Lol! Disqualify based upon what? ICC cant force Pakistan to pay for neutral venues based upon any law. If any team has issue coming without any concrete concerns then ICC will have to make the final call.

There is no way Pak is at fault in this stance based upon any law or rule so they can neither force Pak or completely take away the points.

 

[Mesozoic]

I think September 17th, 2021 is going to go down as one of the most consequential days in Pakistan cricket history. The tremors of that event are likely to be felt for years and years to come, looking at the way things are developing. It's becoming more and more likely that Pakistan won't be playing much (and by 'much' I'm afraid I mean 'any') cricket against Big3+NZ for a long time to come due to various (political) factors . And not playing at all against the top4 sides in the world for a substantial period of time isn't going to do any good to a team that has already been on a constant downward spiral for almost a decade.

I honestly hope things won't end up that way as this game, which we all love and cherish, can't afford another one of it's already few significant nations to go down into the pit.

 

[Manunited18]

Excellent decision, need to stick to their guns.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Lol! Disqualify based upon what? ICC cant force Pakistan to pay for neutral venues based upon any law. If any team has issue coming without any concrete concerns then ICC will have to make the final call.

There is no way Pak is at fault in this stance based upon any law or rule so they can neither force Pak or completely take away the points.

So, PCB will be asking for a forfeiture in case they dont tour Pakistan?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

So, PCB will be asking for a forfeiture in case they dont tour Pakistan?

If I've understood things correctly, the PCB won't be asking for anything.

They will set the case that Pakistan is safe and a presidential level of security will be provided. Touring countries are entitled to feel otherwise. However, then it's the touring party that will ask for the forfeiture and not Pakistan.

 

[deep82]

If I've understood things correctly, the PCB won't be asking for anything.

They will set the case that Pakistan is safe and a presidential level of security will be provided. Touring countries are entitled to feel otherwise. However, then it's the touring party that will ask for the forfeiture and not Pakistan.

Don't know what is the clause regarding security if the respective govt. doesn't allow their team to travel.

What will ICC do in that case ?

 

[UzmanBeast]

With respect to WTC, Pakistan is scheduled to host Australia ( 2 ), England( 3) ans NZ (2).

So, will Pakistan demand forfeit in case they don't want to tour pakistan Or will ICC disqualifies Pakistan from WTC ?

Pakistan has ensured that the safety is our utmost priority, and the fact that we are lodging a case against New Zealand by taking statements from other boards will prevent ICC from disqualifying us.

ICC should adopt the following stance: if a team wants to not play in Pakistan, they must bear the costs of the neutral venue.

Simple and effective.

 

[sa88]

Pakistan’s stance should be if you don’t tour Pakistan we won’t tour your country.

If the other team wants neutral venue for Pakistan series then Pakistan should insist on neutral venues for away series.

At the same time Pakistan should continue to invest in the PSL. Invite players from all over the world including 5 eyed countries. Lots of them will come for the money. It will just make a mockery of their national teams refusal.

Moreover, if PSL continues to develop, it will come to generate the bulk of revenues for Pakistan cricket so we don’t lose out by not playing the 5 eyes countrifies.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Don't know what is the clause regarding security if the respective govt. doesn't allow their team to travel.

What will ICC do in that case ?

If touring countries feel its not safe, while the host is 100% adamant that it is...then who do you think the onus for forfeiture should be on?

Logically to me it seems like it should be on the touring party.

 

[UzmanBeast]

I think September 17th, 2021 is going to go down as one of the most consequential days in Pakistan cricket history. The tremors of that event are likely to be felt for years and years to come, looking at the way things are developing. It's becoming more and more likely that Pakistan won't be playing much (and by 'much' I'm afraid I mean 'any') cricket against Big3+NZ for a long time to come due to various (political) factors . And not playing at all against the top4 sides in the world for a substantial period of time isn't going to do any good to a team that has already been on a constant downward spiral for almost a decade.

I honestly hope things won't end up that way as this game, which we all love and cherish, can't afford another one of it's already few significant nations to go down into the pit.

I agree with your claim about not playing with the Big 3 at home for the next few years.

These nations, especially England, will probably still invite Pakistan to tours.

New Zealand and Australia are teams we hardly make any profits from, and avoiding touring those places will save us from thorough hammerings.

If Pakistan can play against West Indies, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, and South Africa, our cricket will improve.

I am a firm believer in the fact that the quantity of cricket played is a driving factor in the improvement of a team across all formats.

We need to play more cricket in general with these teams.

For these teams, playing in Pakistan with Pakistan is an opportunity, the Big 3 don't see this the same way. For them, playing in Pakistan is a loss.

If Ramiz Raja improves our domestic system, and starts proper development of players, we might not need frequent series against the Big 3.

 

[Titan24]

So, PCB will be asking for a forfeiture in case they dont tour Pakistan?

PCB has just put forward its stance and wont ask for anything other than press the fact country is safe for cricket and top notch security will be provided. Ball will be in ICC’s court as PCB has put forward its stance. Two things ICC cant do is to force Pakistan to rent out a neutral venue paying millions as well as take full points away from Pak when they aren’t doing anything wrong.

So if a team doesnt tour it would either be considered forfeit which obviously Pak would prefer or the worst case scenario for Pak would be if ICC opts for point sharing. There is no other option I can think about.

 

[deep82]

PCB has just put forward its stance and wont ask for anything other than press the fact country is safe for cricket and top notch security will be provided. Ball will be in ICC’s court as PCB has put forward its stance. Two things ICC cant do is to force Pakistan to rent out a neutral venue paying millions as well as take full points away from Pak when they aren’t doing anything wrong.

So if a team doesnt tour it would either be considered forfeit which obviously Pak would prefer or the worst case scenario for Pak would be if ICC opts for point sharing. There is no other option I can think about.

Don't think Pakistan will get full forfeit points. ICC won't allow WTC to be become farce. Although it would be fun to see India vs Pakistan in WTC Final.

Most probably it will be shared points if no agreement can be reached.

 

[Rajdeep]

If touring countries feel its not safe, while the host is 100% adamant that it is...then who do you think the onus for forfeiture should be on?

Logically to me it seems like it should be on the touring party.

Nothing comes before safety. If a team dont feel comfortable touring a specific country...no one can force them. They can demand a neutral venue just like how Pakistan demanded for Asia cup 2018. No question of forefeit and if host country is not ready, they would lose points.

Wasim Khan can say anything he wants but Aust & NZ wont tour Pakistan. Those series will be played in neutral venues.

 

[Titan24]

Don't think Pakistan will get full forfeit points. ICC won't allow WTC to be become farce. Although it would be fun to see India vs Pakistan in WTC Final.

Most probably it will be shared points if no agreement can be reached.

Not sure about Pak making the finals but, Pak had a better chance this cycle to do well with home series against the top teams and away series against teams which Pak can compete well with away.

However, lets see how things develop from here.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Nothing comes before safety. If a team dont feel comfortable touring a specific country...no one can force them. They can demand a neutral venue just like how Pakistan demanded for Asia cup 2018. No question of forefeit and if host country is not ready, they would lose points.

Wasim Khan can say anything he wants but Aust & NZ wont tour Pakistan. Those series will be played in neutral venues.

Why should the host country lose points? They are ready to play.

In the case of the Asia cup. India was convinced by the UAE to move it.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Good assertive comments from Wasim Khan. I'd rather Pakistan not play home series at all than play in UAE.

With England I think there is a little bit of chance in the future if not now. With Australia I see no chance. They haven't toured since 1998. And if they can postpone a tour to Bangladesh on the grounds that there is "a threat to Australian interests" in the country, then I don't AT ALL expect them to tour Pakistan. Especially after this.

 

[deep82]

Why should the host country lose points? They are ready to play.

In the case of the Asia cup. India was convinced by the UAE to move it.

I think there is some time for the Aus series ( next Feb Mar)- Good 6 months. So situation will be much clearer and ' safer' for Western countries by then.

 

[Mesozoic]

If Pakistan can play against West Indies, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, and South Africa, our cricket will improve.

I am a firm believer in the fact that the quantity of cricket played is a driving factor in the improvement of a team across all formats.

We need to play more cricket in general with these teams.

Like your optimism but have to disagree here. The drop off in quality between the top4 and the bottom 4 (WI, SL, Ban, Afg) teams is just way too big to take individual performances against the latter ones too seriously. South Africa are decent but they too are heading in the wrong direction thanks to the quotas.

Playing regularly against these teams would only make average cricketers look good and decent players look world class. An away series against South Africa would end up as the only one that'll somewhat test the actual mettle of the team.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Like your optimism but have to disagree here. The drop off in quality between the top4 and the bottom 4 (WI, SL, Ban, Afg) teams is just way too big to take individual performances against the latter ones too seriously. South Africa are decent but they too are heading in the wrong direction thanks to the quotas.

Playing regularly against these teams would only make average cricketers look good and decent players look world class. An away series against South Africa would end up as the only one that'll somewhat test the actual mettle of the team.

I'm still saying that we will be touring other countries for away tours.

Do you think England will stop asking us to tour given how much money they make from games with us?

I'm saying that those are teams we can facilitate home series against and still improve our standard of cricket.

Once you start beating these teams consistently, other teams wouldn't have a choice to avoid touring. At that point, your stance would be quite clear: tour us or don't expect us to tour.

 

[Mesozoic]

I'm still saying that we will be touring other countries for away tours.

Do you think England will stop asking us to tour given how much money they make from games with us?

I'm saying that those are teams we can facilitate home series against and still improve our standard of cricket.

Once you start beating these teams consistently, other teams wouldn't have a choice to avoid touring. At that point, your stance would be quite clear: tour us or don't expect us to tour.

The way things are going, I really don't expect the PCB would be willing to tour England or some XYZ country unless and until -

1. England/XYZ team completes the tour of Pakistan.

2. England/XYZ board agrees to pay for a fair share of expenses in case of a neutral venue.

3. England/XYZ board agrees to share with the PCB, the revenues generated from the home series against Pakistan.

As the likelihood of the above events taking place is very low, I don't see PCB agreeing to tour as the backlash they'd get from their own fans will be insurmountable. So it'll eventually get to that point you mentioned in the last sentence.

 

[Zaz]

Good stuff from Waseem

Pakistan should not play any home series on neutral territories

If the away teams dont like it and want to forfeit its upto them

Pakistan is safe and willing to welcome anyone who treats the country and board with respect

This type of respect should not be tolerated

 

[UzmanBeast]

The way things are going, I really don't expect the PCB would be willing to tour England or some XYZ country unless and until -

1. England/XYZ team completes the tour of Pakistan.

2. England/XYZ board agrees to pay for a fair share of expenses in case of a neutral venue.

3. England/XYZ board agrees to share with the PCB, the revenues generated from the home series against Pakistan.

As the likelihood of the above events taking place is very low, I don't see PCB agreeing to tour as the backlash they'd get from their own fans will be insurmountable. So it'll eventually get to that point you mentioned in the last sentence.

I think both of us are undermining PCB's relations with England.

Out of all other playing nations, I think PCB has the best relationship with England and Sri Lanka as far as things go.

PCB treats both of these boards with respect, and they show respect to us.

England knows that they have a huge market to appease in England; the presence of Pakistanis in England. They know how fruitful recent series between Pakistan and England have been, which is why I'm not surprised that they are taking longer to make a decision. NZC is a meek board, they will bow down to pressure from their government. However, ECB on the other hand is a much stronger board and is more likely to make its own decision.

If England completes a tour of Pakistan, they won't have to come back for a while and will be able to get us to tour England as many times as they want, because our thirst for international cricket at home would have been quenched. From that perspective, it makes total sense for them to consider this tour: the long-term benefit for them is great.

I doubt England will pay the expenses for a neutral venue, but the last option is more prominent. I think England might be trying to offer PCB an opportunity to host their home series in England and take a large chunk of revenue generated. However, Wasim Khan's stance has been quite clear, so that option seems unlikely.

The last sentence I mentioned is where I see things headed: if you are constantly winning, you will be able to amass a lot of viewership which foreign boards will look at as being a great source of revenue. Supply and demand: you start to win games upon games and tap into the potential of local viewership, and then your demand around the world increases substantially.

I have a feeling that England will agree to tour Pakistan but will make it a solitary T20I. Just a gut feeling.

 

[Ashmal]

Excellent decision....no more neutral venue nonsense.

If no team wants to tour, just expand the PSL to cover for home fixtures rather than hosting teams in UAE.

If teams are not satisfied with security then they should either provide solid evidence for their fears or be ready to bear the expenses for neutral venues.

 

[sam_ahm]

This sort of stand could lead to cancellations of WTC and WSL matches which will be a Shame , I do understand PCBs stand though. It's a difficult situation overall. If England tour next month it will be a massive boost for Pakistan.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

PCB has just put forward its stance and wont ask for anything other than press the fact country is safe for cricket and top notch security will be provided. Ball will be in ICC’s court as PCB has put forward its stance. Two things ICC cant do is to force Pakistan to rent out a neutral venue paying millions as well as take full points away from Pak when they aren’t doing anything wrong.

So if a team doesnt tour it would either be considered forfeit which obviously Pak would prefer or the worst case scenario for Pak would be if ICC opts for point sharing. There is no other option I can think about.

That would be a principled stand and I respect that. I doubt any of those boards would be happy with outcome though . This might be the end of WTC if such an impasse were reached

 

[Mainul]

Right decision. Pakistan should keep their head high. NZ did a terrible thing, injustice to Pakistan. All the subcontinent teams, SA, Zimbabwe,WI should stand besides Pakistan. Big 3 ,NZ are different opposition.

 

[Pakpak]

Pakistan’s stance should be if you don’t tour Pakistan we won’t tour your country.

If the other team wants neutral venue for Pakistan series then Pakistan should insist on neutral venues for away series.

At the same time Pakistan should continue to invest in the PSL. Invite players from all over the world including 5 eyed countries. Lots of them will come for the money. It will just make a mockery of their national teams refusal.

Moreover, if PSL continues to develop, it will come to generate the bulk of revenues for Pakistan cricket so we don’t lose out by not playing the 5 eyes countrifies.

We don't play India.

We rarely play Australia or NZ that often.

And yet we have survived. I am sure we will survive regardless. We are not getting anything out of the pie as it is, what more do we have to lose. Cricket will become more of a joke than it already is if we don't play other teams. Its a joke of a sport dominated by the top 3 as it is.

 

[Mesozoic]

I think both of us are undermining PCB's relations with England.

Out of all other playing nations, I think PCB has the best relationship with England and Sri Lanka as far as things go.

PCB treats both of these boards with respect, and they show respect to us.

England knows that they have a huge market to appease in England; the presence of Pakistanis in England. They know how fruitful recent series between Pakistan and England have been, which is why I'm not surprised that they are taking longer to make a decision. NZC is a meek board, they will bow down to pressure from their government. However, ECB on the other hand is a much stronger board and is more likely to make its own decision.

If England completes a tour of Pakistan, they won't have to come back for a while and will be able to get us to tour England as many times as they want, because our thirst for international cricket at home would have been quenched. From that perspective, it makes total sense for them to consider this tour: the long-term benefit for them is great.

I doubt England will pay the expenses for a neutral venue, but the last option is more prominent. I think England might be trying to offer PCB an opportunity to host their home series in England and take a large chunk of revenue generated. However, Wasim Khan's stance has been quite clear, so that option seems unlikely.

The last sentence I mentioned is where I see things headed: if you are constantly winning, you will be able to amass a lot of viewership which foreign boards will look at as being a great source of revenue. Supply and demand: you start to win games upon games and tap into the potential of local viewership, and then your demand around the world increases substantially.

I have a feeling that England will agree to tour Pakistan but will make it a solitary T20I. Just a gut feeling.

I know ECB and PCB share a good relationship but it's highly unlikely that the British government will give a nod to tour Pakistani anytime soon. It's not just up to the ECB.

Again, I disagree with the second part of your post. Beating the bottom tier teams won't make much of a difference to the viewership. In fact , it can be counter productive as people may quickly get tired of playing the same subpar opponent time and again.

 

[Kroll]

I don't think he needed to say that as nothing's got to the stage where he needs to empathize that. Currently, it's a given that we're going to play home series in Pakistan.

 

[sharmaji]

Excellent stance from PCB/Ramiz/Wasim Khan. I like how he is making sure not to burn bridges with NZC while maintaining his disappointment with their behaviour.

 

[Saj]

Wasim Khan's quote today at the press conference "As it stands at the moment, we have no plans to move our home series abroad. It’s taken us a long time to return and we are adamant that we remain safe but we always have to have contingency and backup plans. But as it stands right now there is no conversation about us playing our home series abroad."

 

[Slim]

I am probably saying this for the first time but good comments Wasim Khan. This is the stance that needs to be taken and stood strong at. There is no option B anymore, play us at home or dont play. We have had enough!

 

[Anis Shivani]

This is the correct attitude. Moreover, I feel that the New Zealand debacle is part of the many moves that can be expected, post the Taliban victory, to isolate Pakistan in every way possible. Much more is to come from the U.S. Therefore, PCB should seek every legal recourse, make the huge deal out of it that it actually is, and seek disclosure of the so-called "intelligence," in the absence of which a case for compensation should be made at the highest forums. At least give England and Australia something to think about, because this is about preventing the big teams from touring Pakistan, all acting in sync, so this is the moment when strong PR and legal action needs to be taken. If PCB takes this lying down, there will be no future tours from these teams. At least press them as hard as you can while these contracts exist, because they won't in the future.

 

[Rana]

This is the correct attitude. Moreover, I feel that the New Zealand debacle is part of the many moves that can be expected, post the Taliban victory, to isolate Pakistan in every way possible. Much more is to come from the U.S. Therefore, PCB should seek every legal recourse, make the huge deal out of it that it actually is, and seek disclosure of the so-called "intelligence," in the absence of which a case for compensation should be made at the highest forums. At least give England and Australia something to think about, because this is about preventing the big teams from touring Pakistan, all acting in sync, so this is the moment when strong PR and legal action needs to be taken. If PCB takes this lying down, there will be no future tours from these teams. At least press them as hard as you can while these contracts exist, because they won't in the future.

The more abuse the NZ Government and Cricket team suffer on social media and other platforms will force them to leak the information. They have been forced to release some detail in order to get heat off their back

 

[Buffet]

SA cricket not only survived but thrived during isolation where no international game took place.

As long as Pakistan has a large number of cricket fans, not playing few teams won't kill cricket in Pakistan.

 

[hitthestump]

SA cricket not only survived but thrived during isolation where no international game took place.

As long as Pakistan has a large number of cricket fans, not playing few teams won't kill cricket in Pakistan.

Agreed. However we have been pretty good at killing cricket ourselves over the past 2 decades. For all the blame that is being put on NZ i hope our own shortcomings don't get swept under the carpet - NZ felt confident to disrespect us because of how pathetic our cricket has gotten.

 

[Buffet]

Agreed. However we have been pretty good at killing cricket ourselves over the past 2 decades. For all the blame that is being put on NZ i hope our own shortcomings don't get swept under the carpet - NZ felt confident to disrespect us because of how pathetic our cricket has gotten.

Putting the focus on domestic and infrastructure will ensure that cricket can never die in the country with such a large fan base. SA domestic was top class and that's why the team was in a good shape after reintroduction.

 

[cricketjoshila]

A lot of what wasim khan said will depend on whether ECB tour or not.

If ECB pulls out and then CA, then PCB will be forced to move matches to a neutral venue. Unless ofcourse they dont want any matches with these teams.

 

[hitthestump]

A lot of what wasim khan said will depend on whether ECB tour or not.

If ECB pulls out and then CA, then PCB will be forced to move matches to a neutral venue. Unless ofcourse they dont want any matches with these teams.

He has already laid subtle foundations for that outcome. Seems that the ECB have given him an idea of what they're going to do, and thus he knows nobody else is coming either.

Pakistan probably going to be forced to choose between UAE or nothing for the next few years.

 

[Sir Alex]

Same mistakes. Can understand PCB and whole of Pakistan becoming emotional at the snub by NZ. And that could justify some of the initial remarks- they are borne out of immediately disappointment and spur of the moment.

But time lets mature people to look st things a more nuanced, balanced perspective. I had hoped PCB head honchos would do the same but unfortunately continued crying victim and chest beating betrays anything but.

Did NZ really intentionally screw Pakistan ? Evidence available points to the contrary. Despite reservations from a few players, NZ did agree to tour and did travel to Pakistan. That is probably more than 90 per cent of the most hard work and a terrific win for Pakistan in itself. It showed the world that a country like NZ which usually takes things probably too seriously at times, could arrive at a decision that Pakistan is a relatively safe place to tour. This indicated that it no longer subscribed to the general worldview of Pakistan which was probably much easier to do.

So in all good faith it can be assumed NZ genuinely wanted to play good cricket in Pakistan.

But something has changed since they landed, we are not privy to the info, and probably won't be ever, as it is a security matter reserved and classified for obvious reasons. What is clear as crystal is it was just too grave to take a u turn after doing so much of activity. PCB must realize good relations are created on a long term basis and it is never an always smooth ride. There will be trials and tribulations but most importantly it is about trust. If I were the PCB head, I'd take this as an opportunity to build on that trust bank - I would tell NZC - Guys, I am as disappointed as you about this whole cancelation at last minute. But I understand this is not something you'd have done without enough credible intelligence. I'd be glad if you could share the details but I totally.understand if you don't as well. Can we discuss how we can help in this matter and also continue playing more matches between Pak and NZ for the sake of both fans ?

Instead Wasim Khan and all are busy burning whatever small bridges have been built painstakingly. And then crying that they will take NZ to the task. This might help them win favors with a section of the fan base by plauing to the crowd but in the long term only further the distrust of PCB and hence their further alienation from.mainstream.

I hope there is still time for.PCB and Pak administration to come around on this issue and engage with other boards constructively, treat this as a minor setback to the whole overall goal of enabling full scale international cricket in Pakistan.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Same mistakes. Can understand PCB and whole of Pakistan becoming emotional at the snub by NZ. And that could justify some of the initial remarks- they are borne out of immediately disappointment and spur of the moment.

But time lets mature people to look st things a more nuanced, balanced perspective. I had hoped PCB head honchos would do the same but unfortunately continued crying victim and chest beating betrays anything but.

Did NZ really intentionally screw Pakistan ? Evidence available points to the contrary. Despite reservations from a few players, NZ did agree to tour and did travel to Pakistan. That is probably more than 90 per cent of the most hard work and a terrific win for Pakistan in itself. It showed the world that a country like NZ which usually takes things probably too seriously at times, could arrive at a decision that Pakistan is a relatively safe place to tour. This indicated that it no longer subscribed to the general worldview of Pakistan which was probably much easier to do.

So in all good faith it can be assumed NZ genuinely wanted to play good cricket in Pakistan.

But something has changed since they landed, we are not privy to the info, and probably won't be ever, as it is a security matter reserved and classified for obvious reasons. What is clear as crystal is it was just too grave to take a u turn after doing so much of activity. PCB must realize good relations are created on a long term basis and it is never an always smooth ride. There will be trials and tribulations but most importantly it is about trust. If I were the PCB head, I'd take this as an opportunity to build on that trust bank - I would tell NZC - Guys, I am as disappointed as you about this whole cancelation at last minute. But I understand this is not something you'd have done without enough credible intelligence. I'd be glad if you could share the details but I totally.understand if you don't as well. Can we discuss how we can help in this matter and also continue playing more matches between Pak and NZ for the sake of both fans ?

Instead Wasim Khan and all are busy burning whatever small bridges have been built painstakingly. And then crying that they will take NZ to the task. This might help them win favors with a section of the fan base by plauing to the crowd but in the long term only further the distrust of PCB and hence their further alienation from.mainstream.

I hope there is still time for.PCB and Pak administration to come around on this issue and engage with other boards constructively, treat this as a minor setback to the whole overall goal of enabling full scale international cricket in Pakistan.

This is the unfortunate way forward, however what NZC did here meant years of hard work and a lot of money were subsequently deleted within a matter of hours. Easy for me and you to say, chilling in the comfort of our homes, but the people who did all the hard work to make this possible have all the right to be disappointed by how unprofessionally NZC had dealt with the whole scenario.

I read some clown’s comments here that what could NZC had done differently. The person is not even aware of exactly what went down while the cancellation was taking place. NZC had literally NO dialogue with the PCB before they decided to cancel the tour suddenly. That’s disrespectful to an entirely different level altogether.

 

[Shafi]

We also should not tour to NZ for 5 years. If they call us for 2-3 T20s for fake consolation we should deny that citing security issues of Muslim over there.

 

[Araash]

LOL, Wasim Khan can talk tough as much as he wants but it is only for domestic audience. He knows it and everyone knows it that PCB has absolute zero leverage in forcing its terms on other cricketing boards. We're neither a financial powerhouse nor carry oversize political influence at global geopolitical stage and in terms of our cricketing skills, we rub shoulders with teams like BD, Zim, WI, SL ... LOL

If Pakistan refuses to play home series at neutral venues, it won't be missed much by elite teams, no one's gonna lose sleep over our refusal.

 

[mumtaz]

I don't think the question of forfeiture would arise for WTC purposes. With the new system of rankings points scored/points contested, ICC will just assume that the matches never took place. The same case as the last WTC cycle when many series were impacted due to COVID.

 

[ahsan17]

Same mistakes. Can understand PCB and whole of Pakistan becoming emotional at the snub by NZ. And that could justify some of the initial remarks- they are borne out of immediately disappointment and spur of the moment.

But time lets mature people to look st things a more nuanced, balanced perspective. I had hoped PCB head honchos would do the same but unfortunately continued crying victim and chest beating betrays anything but.

Did NZ really intentionally screw Pakistan ? Evidence available points to the contrary. Despite reservations from a few players, NZ did agree to tour and did travel to Pakistan. That is probably more than 90 per cent of the most hard work and a terrific win for Pakistan in itself. It showed the world that a country like NZ which usually takes things probably too seriously at times, could arrive at a decision that Pakistan is a relatively safe place to tour. This indicated that it no longer subscribed to the general worldview of Pakistan which was probably much easier to do.

So in all good faith it can be assumed NZ genuinely wanted to play good cricket in Pakistan.

But something has changed since they landed, we are not privy to the info, and probably won't be ever, as it is a security matter reserved and classified for obvious reasons. What is clear as crystal is it was just too grave to take a u turn after doing so much of activity. PCB must realize good relations are created on a long term basis and it is never an always smooth ride. There will be trials and tribulations but most importantly it is about trust. If I were the PCB head, I'd take this as an opportunity to build on that trust bank - I would tell NZC - Guys, I am as disappointed as you about this whole cancelation at last minute. But I understand this is not something you'd have done without enough credible intelligence. I'd be glad if you could share the details but I totally.understand if you don't as well. Can we discuss how we can help in this matter and also continue playing more matches between Pak and NZ for the sake of both fans ?

Instead Wasim Khan and all are busy burning whatever small bridges have been built painstakingly. And then crying that they will take NZ to the task. This might help them win favors with a section of the fan base by plauing to the crowd but in the long term only further the distrust of PCB and hence their further alienation from.mainstream.

I hope there is still time for.PCB and Pak administration to come around on this issue and engage with other boards constructively, treat this as a minor setback to the whole overall goal of enabling full scale international cricket in Pakistan.

These countries were sharing intelligence with Taliban just a few weeks ago. This assumption or premise that the intelligence cannot be shared is complete bunk, especially since it's to do with just sports. Intelligence is even shared with enemies sometimes, forget countries like Pakistan that they have shared intelligence with decades for. There's no good reason not to do that, so it looks suspicious. The only reason not to share it is because it may have been bad intelligence, or that it might implicate other countries like India.

 

[MenInG]

LAHORE: The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has given a clear response to New Zealand Cricket (NZC) that they will not play home series at a neutral venue, ARY News reported.

PCB’s spokesperson confirmed that NZC contacted them to reschedule the series as soon as possible at a neutral venue. But, PCB made it clear that Pakistan will not play any home series abroad.

“PCB has made it clear, Pakistan will not play any home series abroad. If New Zealand wants to play, they will have to come to Pakistan,” the spokesperson told ARY News.

“Pakistan team is busy till December this year. So, playing at a neutral venue is not a possible option,” he added.

ARY

 

[ahsan17]

LAHORE: The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has given a clear response to New Zealand Cricket (NZC) that they will not play home series at a neutral venue, ARY News reported.

PCB’s spokesperson confirmed that NZC contacted them to reschedule the series as soon as possible at a neutral venue. But, PCB made it clear that Pakistan will not play any home series abroad.

“PCB has made it clear, Pakistan will not play any home series abroad. If New Zealand wants to play, they will have to come to Pakistan,” the spokesperson told ARY News.

“Pakistan team is busy till December this year. So, playing at a neutral venue is not a possible option,” he added.

ARY

They better not agree to hold the series at a neutral venue even after December.

 

[Runner Up]

PCB should stick to their decision. Play in Pakistan or don't play.

 

[MenInG]

KARACHI: New Zealand Cricket (NZC) has offered Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to reschedule the series as soon as possible at a neutral venue.

According to New Zealand media, NZC wants to reschedule the series against Pakistan in near future at a neutral venue. NZC has no plans to tour Pakistan as per the New Zealand reports.

Moreover, their media reported that no New Zealand player from the team, that came to Pakistan, was taken in consultation before canceling the tour.

It must be noted here that PCB’s CEO Wasim Khan has reassured in a press conference yesterday that Pakistan will not play any home series abroad.

 

[Sycamore]

Absolutely fantastic decision.Wasim khan has talked the talk over the past few years but he needs to walk the walk.

 

[reversehook]

pcb should not get lured to play its home series at away or neutral venues. . stand firm... dont fall for the trap...

 

[Rajdeep]

So its basically a deadlock situation. NZ wont come to Pakistan and Pak wont play in neutral venue. So what happens now? If both the teams cant come to an agreement, who gets the points for forfeit?

 

[ritzy_123]

It's a trap. We must not go for neutral venue at any cost. Stand firm at the decision of playing in Pakistan that's it. Great job PCB and Wasim Khan..!!

 

[DeadlyVenom]

So its basically a deadlock situation. NZ wont come to Pakistan and Pak wont play in neutral venue. So what happens now? If both the teams cant come to an agreement, who gets the points for forfeit?

There are three options.

Countries tour Pakistan.

Countries refuse to tour and agree a forfeit.

Or ICC ban Pakistan from international cricket.

Thats genuinley the only way this deadlock will be resolved ( If the PCB remain true to their word).

ICC cannot give the team that is refusing to tour the victory points.

It will open up scenarios where countries could potentially refuse to tour or pull out of tours because it is convenient. Especially when no evidence is provided for why they are pulling out.

Hypothetical scenario but imagine Australia, with WTC on the line refuse to tour Bangladesh under the guise of security threats and request that the series is moved somewhere less spin friendly.

Or if India say that covid is too big a risk and they would rather play South Africa in Sri Lanka.

The cancelling party must always be held responsible for the forfeiture or we make a mockery of the sport.

 

[ahsan17]

There are three options.

Countries tour Pakistan.

Countries refuse to tour and agree a forfeit.

Or ICC ban Pakistan from international cricket.

Thats genuinley the only way this deadlock will be resolved ( If the PCB remain true to their word).

ICC cannot give the team that is refusing to tour the victory points.

It will open up scenarios where countries could potentially refuse to tour or pull out of tours because it is convenient. Especially when no evidence is provided for why they are pulling out.

Hypothetical scenario but imagine Australia, with WTC on the line refuse to tour Bangladesh under the guise of security threats and request that the series is moved somewhere less spin friendly.

Or if India say that covid is too big a risk and they would rather play South Africa in Sri Lanka.

The cancelling party must always be held responsible for the forfeiture or we make a mockery of the sport.

ICC probably is the most toothless sporting body in all of sports. They will get run over by big 3 if something is in the interests of those boards.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Do not agree to play them at a neutral venue. Cut off relations for a bit.

 

[JibranAnsari]

I loved the last few series played in pakistan but to be honest it is not feasible to play cricket when you shut down half the city routes and disturb lives of individuals and businesses.

Pakistan should revert to UAE as their home , yes there wont be much excitement but at least pakistan will be playing cricket.

 

[Rana]

I loved the last few series played in pakistan but to be honest it is not feasible to play cricket when you shut down half the city routes and disturb lives of individuals and businesses.

Pakistan should revert to UAE as their home , yes there wont be much excitement but at least pakistan will be playing cricket.

The UAE isn’t our home. They kick us out for the IPL

 

[cricketjoshila]

There are three options.

Countries tour Pakistan.

Countries refuse to tour and agree a forfeit.

Or ICC ban Pakistan from international cricket.

Thats genuinley the only way this deadlock will be resolved ( If the PCB remain true to their word).

ICC cannot give the team that is refusing to tour the victory points.

It will open up scenarios where countries could potentially refuse to tour or pull out of tours because it is convenient. Especially when no evidence is provided for why they are pulling out.

Hypothetical scenario but imagine Australia, with WTC on the line refuse to tour Bangladesh under the guise of security threats and request that the series is moved somewhere less spin friendly.

Or if India say that covid is too big a risk and they would rather play South Africa in Sri Lanka.

The cancelling party must always be held responsible for the forfeiture or we make a mockery of the sport.

If majority of countries refuse to tour pakistan then there is nothing ICC can do about it.

If there was one or two exceptions then ICC could have done something.

If PCB refuses to play at neutral venues and asks for forfeiture, next cycle boards will not schedule a bilateral with pakistan like bcci does.

 

[Titan24]

If majority of countries refuse to tour pakistan then there is nothing ICC can do about it.

If there was one or two exceptions then ICC could have done something.

If PCB refuses to play at neutral venues and asks for forfeiture, next cycle boards will not schedule a bilateral with pakistan like bcci does.

5 who have already toured is a bigger number than 2-3 which are having potential issues. Not to forget the multiple foreign players including from the countries being apprehensive come every year for PSL.

As mentioned previously less cricket at home is better than spending millions for a neutral venue and no one can naturally force any board to do so

 

[FreePalestine]

Wasim Khan Press Conference - Most considered Pak response to NZ withdrawal

I like that he didn’t pull punches when it comes to our sentiments regarding NZ withdrawal, as some punters on here are suggesting we should do.

Hard to disagree with him really.

 

[Rajdeep]

There are three options.

Countries tour Pakistan.

Countries refuse to tour and agree a forfeit.

Or ICC ban Pakistan from international cricket.

Thats genuinley the only way this deadlock will be resolved ( If the PCB remain true to their word).

ICC cannot give the team that is refusing to tour the victory points.

It will open up scenarios where countries could potentially refuse to tour or pull out of tours because it is convenient. Especially when no evidence is provided for why they are pulling out.

Hypothetical scenario but imagine Australia, with WTC on the line refuse to tour Bangladesh under the guise of security threats and request that the series is moved somewhere less spin friendly.

Or if India say that covid is too big a risk and they would rather play South Africa in Sri Lanka.

The cancelling party must always be held responsible for the forfeiture or we make a mockery of the sport.

Banning Pakistan is out of question and ICC wont even think on those terms.

At the same time, ICC cant force teams to travel Pakistan either against their govt's directive.

So the only logical solution is playing neutral venue.

I know its not cost efficient for PCB to continue cricket in UAE and this where ICC can help.

ICC should strike a deal with Emirates Cricket board and fund 50% for Pakistan's home games in UAE. Remaining 50% ofcourse PCB would pay but in that way they wont make loss playing in neutral grounds.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

If majority of countries refuse to tour pakistan then there is nothing ICC can do about it.

If there was one or two exceptions then ICC could have done something.

If PCB refuses to play at neutral venues and asks for forfeiture, next cycle boards will not schedule a bilateral with pakistan like bcci does.

It would affect the test championship, apart from India other boards don't have the ability to supersede the cycle. The only outcome ( if PCB stays to its word) is that ICC will remove Pakistan from a test championship cycle or ban it if countries fail to tour.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Banning Pakistan is out of question and ICC wont even think on those terms.

At the same time, ICC cant force teams to travel Pakistan either against their govt's directive.

So the only logical solution is playing neutral venue.

I know its not cost efficient for PCB to continue cricket in UAE and this where ICC can help.

ICC should strike a deal with Emirates Cricket board and fund 50% for Pakistan's home games in UAE. Remaining 50% ofcourse PCB would pay but in that way they wont make loss playing in neutral grounds.

If the ICC cant force teams to tour, it also cant force Pakistan to play at neutral venues.

 

[Rana]

If the ICC cant force teams to tour, it also cant force Pakistan to play at neutral venues.

The ICC should cover the costs of neutral venues if they want. We should not have to bare the cost anymore

 

[Devadwal]

If the ICC cant force teams to tour, it also cant force Pakistan to play at neutral venues.

Then whose lose? Only loser here is pakistan cricket and their fans .

 

[Zaz]

Banning Pakistan is out of question and ICC wont even think on those terms.

At the same time, ICC cant force teams to travel Pakistan either against their govt's directive.

So the only logical solution is playing neutral venue.

I know its not cost efficient for PCB to continue cricket in UAE and this where ICC can help.

ICC should strike a deal with Emirates Cricket board and fund 50% for Pakistan's home games in UAE. Remaining 50% ofcourse PCB would pay but in that way they wont make loss playing in neutral grounds.

You cant force pcb to hold home series abroad either

Its not about profit or losses anymore

Pakistan has hosted multiple teams and players successfully and safely over the last 2years

There is no justification to hold any series in a neutral venue anymore

If you want to play pakistan it should be in pakistan Either come n play or forfeit the series

 

[Pakpak]

Then whose lose? Only loser here is pakistan cricket and their fans .

Not really. We don't play Australia or NZ much anyway. India we haven't for a while. England sure. The rest of the teams have toured us and should be fine to tour again

The nation's unwilling to tour us we don't play much anyway. Nothing to lose. I would happily not play them than play on neutral grounds.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Then whose lose? Only loser here is pakistan cricket and their fans .

They lose either way.

At least this way there is a possibility of other teams visiting Pak.

If we play NZ in a neutral territory whats to stop the Windies from wanting to play in Dubai too?

A line needs to be drawn at some point.

 

[Rana]

They lose either way.

At least this way there is a possibility of other teams visiting Pak.

If we play NZ in a neutral territory whats to stop the Windies from wanting to play in Dubai too?

A line needs to be drawn at some point.

We were strict with Bangladesh

Nothing should change our stance against SENA nations