“This team has the full capability to make a comeback” : Misbah-ul-Haq

[Abdullah719]

Misbah after the first Test against England:

“Credit goes to England for the partnership after being 5 down. Buttler and Woakes counterattacked when we had the match in our hands but they took it away from us.

“We could have done better with our 2nd innings batting. If we had 300+ on the board, it could have been different. But the main thing is that England put up an excellent show under pressure.

“This was a tough game for us. In the last innings on such a pitch where batting wasn’t easy, we need to recover from this quickly and we need to improve. We can play better cricket. This team has the full capability to make a comeback. It was a good match and England played better and finished it well.

“Overall the bowling was fine. Still, there’s a lot to learn. Everyone tried hard and gave their best effort but the other team won by playing better.

“We will try to minimize our mistakes and improve. It’s important to perform well with the bat in the 2nd innings also and we need to put up bigger scores.”

 

[Zaz]

is he going to make changes to the batting order? Or just carry on praying for the best

Is fawad here to be a waterboy? Whilsr shafiq n co bottle it time after time

 

[asadee]

Sounds like he won't make any changes next match. This "we will do better next time" bakwaas we have been hearing for 10 years

 

[Energy]

He's conveniently skipped questions relating to team balance/under-performing batting. Misbah is genius when it comes to press conferences. He will never, ever be daunted because he's so used to being criticized and always has something up his sleeve.

 

[Major]

Hopefully Misbah will have us ready for the next game.

I wonder what he would had considered regarding Shadab. Should had shadab been used earlier or not.

But Misbah has to take a tough decision regarding Asad. Drop him and bring Fawad

 

[Fahdi]

Hopefully Misbah will have us ready for the next game.

I wonder what he would had considered regarding Shadab. Should had shadab been used earlier or not.

But Misbah has to take a tough decision regarding Asad. Drop him and bring Fawad

The most important decision that needs to be taken is regarding Azhar. Unfortunately the captain can't be dropped in between the series but there are serious questions that need to be answered as to why one of the 2 worst batsmen of the team in the last 2-3 years is our captain.

 

[sindhiboy]

This is the team capable of snatching defeat from the Jaws of victory

 

[Ahmed_99]

Regardless of people's opinions about him, he has had decent success as a test captain. Let's hope he can help plan a good comeback now. This is a true test of his coaching and motivating ability. Lucky for him, he has good support staff with him to try and lift the team.

Let's see if he makes any bold decisions now. Not many of us were expecting him to go in with 2 spinners this test, so maybe he might go for another surprise in the next match

 

[chacha kashmiri]

He's obviously pinpointed the batting in the second innings as the flash point
We had an unfortunate run out and then we had two lbws that were umpire decisions
Too many players in their 20s who couldn't push through to higher scores after seeing off the initial swing

 

[Azrim_91]

I would open with Azhar. If he gets out first ball its better to be 0-1 than when he gets out at 3 and we're 20-2.

Number 3 and 4 in tests are so crucial and their wickets shift the momentum of an innings significantly. Asad should also bat at 6 and move Rizwan or even Shadab to number 5.

We need to be sensible with what we have in our squad and considering Azhar and Asad are seniors and have scored in England before...... Shifting the batting order could help here.

 

[Grunge101]

The results will not change unless the overpaid team of coaches including Misbah start to do some homework on the opposition.

 

[fitCricFan]

This is the team capable of snatching defeat from the Jaws of victory

Hey, that was my tag line from the other thread

Its ok though. We know that all that talk about the team being so unpredictable, capable of defeating any team on its day, blah, blah, blah is all talk

Now, its time to wait for the planets to align, and stars to form a moon-star pattern and only then we can say with very high probability that yes, today is the day, our team will perform and win

 

[Rayyman]

Good game. Woakes is better than Stokes.

Shan’s batting was rock solid. Babar, Asad and Rizwan need to play better in the next match.

Shadab was a useless selection. Not a Test match player.

Hopefully Pakistan can bounce back in Southampton.

 

[Kroll]

So much for Misbah taking us back to the good times after the so called MA dark era. We were told by certain posters on here that the good times were about to roll.

 

[Aviator]

Shafiq should be thrown out.. Enough of mediocrity. Fawad can't be any worse than this mental midget.
Haris Rauf can be tried in place of naseem.
Faheem can replace shadab.

 

[sindhiboy]

Hey, that was my tag line from the other thread

Its ok though. We know that all that talk about the team being so unpredictable, capable of defeating any team on its day, blah, blah, blah is all talk

Now, its time to wait for the planets to align, and stars to form a moon-star pattern and only then we can say with very high probability that yes, today is the day, our team will perform and win

Really??? I swear I thought I was the one who came up with. Maybe I subconsciously noted that down while scrolling the comments

 

[Caved12]

This is the team capable of snatching defeat from the Jaws of victory

Hilarious

 

[Cric1234]

Unfortunately this loss has knocked the stuffing out of the team expect an easy series win for England from here this wicket was most suited to Pakistan they should’ve won.

 

[Kroll]

Of course they do Misbah. But it won't be this year.

 

[Syed1]

Not going to happen till this shameless Misbah is there

 

[Thephenom]

God rest his soul, but if Bob Woolmer was still alive today things would be different!

 

[Saj]

I'm afraid a 3-0 looks likely.

This was a great chance to go 1-0 up and build pressure on England.

 

[Thephenom]

If you only looked at the pitch and wasn’t aware this was England you’d think it was one in Pakistan, the fact we couldn’t win after being given a huge advantage like that, then this doesn’t look like being anything else then embarrassing!

 

[azimiqbal]

I'm afraid a 3-0 looks likely.

This was a great chance to go 1-0 up and build pressure on England.

Completely agreed ! This defeat is going to leave serious mental scares.

I expect Azhar to be scape goated at the end of the series and dropped and stripped of captaincy

 

[coy0607]

At the end of the 3-0 drubbing, Misbah can rinse and repeat the same line.

 

[MMHS]

No, they are not. If PAK indeed wins a game it'll be a grand upset and to do so, several factors have to go in favor of PAK.

If I make a combined XI from the two teams, I'll pick 3 max 4 PAK players - that 4th one is Shan as he has got a hundred and Burns had a poor game. A week back, it could have been just 2 because I wasn't sure about Yasir's fitness. This is player to player comparison at individual level....

1. Burns = Shan
2. Dom > Abid/Imam
3. Root > Azhar
4. Pope < Babar
5. Stokes > Asad
6. Butler > Rizwan (But, Rizwan better WK)
7. Woakes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shadab
8. Yasir >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bess
9. Broad > Shaheen
10. Archer = Abbas
11. Anderson > Naseem

Combined XI:
1. Shan
2. Dom
3. *Root
4. Babar
5. Pope
6. Stokes
7. +Foakes
8. Wokes
9. Broad
10. Yasir
11. Archer/Abbas/Shaheen

Combined England XI at home is far more that the sum of individuals while for PAK couple of players will have to drag the rest - it's not even a comparison.

Misbah is trying to save face here.

 

[shamaan]

is he going to make changes to the batting order? Or just carry on praying for the best

Is fawad here to be a waterboy? Whilsr shafiq n co bottle it time after time

I would defo replace shadab with fawad

 

[shamaan]

Hopefully Misbah will have us ready for the next game.

I wonder what he would had considered regarding Shadab. Should had shadab been used earlier or not.

But Misbah has to take a tough decision regarding Asad. Drop him and bring Fawad

I'd drop shadab hes not bowling enough to be in the team even fawad can bowl that many overs

 

[shamaan]

Good game. Woakes is better than Stokes.

Shan’s batting was rock solid. Babar, Asad and Rizwan need to play better in the next match.

Shadab was a useless selection. Not a Test match player.

Hopefully Pakistan can bounce back in Southampton.

Azhar used shadab wrong tbh he didnt give him enough overs fawad in for shadab

 

[Hitman]

Losing a Test within 4 days after taking a 100 run lead in the 1st innings is simple not acceptable. Pakistan should have definitely won this Test.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Pakistan will lose 3-0. Best hope is that Azhar and Asad flop again, so maybe we can finally say Khuda Hafiz to them.

 

[hitthestump]

Pakistan will lose 3-0. Best hope is that Azhar and Asad flop again, so maybe we can finally say Khuda Hafiz to them.

Either we win 2-1 or i want this to happen.

If Shafiq does his trademark one big score in a pointless cause during this series i think i will go through the roof.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Either we win 2-1 or i want this to happen.

If Shafiq does his trademark one big score in a pointless cause during this series i think i will go through the roof.

Going by history he most likely will.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Good game. Woakes is better than Stokes.

Shan’s batting was rock solid. Babar, Asad and Rizwan need to play better in the next match.

Shadab was a useless selection. Not a Test match player.

Hopefully Pakistan can bounce back in Southampton.

Lol Shadab inns of 45 runs helped Pak score 300+ in the first inns otherwise they would have been bundled for 250 max. If he is not given the ball to bowl that is not his mistake.

 

[James]

He's obviously pinpointed the batting in the second innings as the flash point
We had an unfortunate run out and then we had two lbws that were umpire decisions
Too many players in their 20s who couldn't push through to higher scores after seeing off the initial swing

It wasn’t an unfortunate run out, it was an inept run out. Burns and Buttler were also both given out in the 2nd innings on umpire’s call — this happens to every team.

There can be no excuses for Pakistan’s 2nd innings batting imo, it was even worse than England’s 1st innings batting!! And was really poor throughout with only Shan getting unlucky down the leg side.

 

[Shafi]

Under Misbah last match was the realistic chances for us to win. Since Misbah neither has skill nor qualification he cannot improve anything.
Next 2 matches England will come much harder on us.They will have better technique to get out 2 useless seniors much earlier, and need to work little bit about Babar and Shan so they can win by innings.
Misbah's tuk tuk policy will not work against better team.

 

[Shafi]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION],
Whats your opinion about Misbah's term? Will he be there until 2021 or get another 3-4 years extension to let his buddies (S & I Khan, Azhar, Shafiq, Wahab..) play another 4+ years?

 

[Shafi]

Do Misbah's fan really believe that we can come back? Our team is full of expired players who have nothing to give plus Misbah doesn't have any skill or motivation work on certain batsmen to improve their technique. Same goes to Waqar. This guy was serial choker in big matches (Had he play in 1992 World cup ahead of useless Aquib he could be destroyed by English batsmen).
Both Misbah and Waqar is there to collect free fat cheque per month. They really don't give a damn to improve or work on the team.

 

[Saj]

There's a lack of leaders, players who can lift the other players around them and get in the faces of the opposition.

Too many comfort zone players in the team.

 

[Junaids]

I remember President Reagan saying that:

“A recession is when your neighbour loses his job.

A depression is when you lose your own job.

A recovery is when President Carter loses his.”

This is similar: Pakistan has an incredibly bright future - but it won’t start until Misbah is removed.

Misbah is what is holding them back with his Azhar’s and Shafiqs and Imran’s and Sohail’s and Iftikhars and Hafeez’s and Kashifs and Abids and Sarfraz’s.

It’s 2020, not 2012.

 

[Kroll]

Do Misbah's fan really believe that we can come back? Our team is full of expired players who have nothing to give plus Misbah doesn't have any skill or motivation work on certain batsmen to improve their technique. Same goes to Waqar. This guy was serial choker in big matches (Had he play in 1992 World cup ahead of useless Aquib he could be destroyed by English batsmen).
Both Misbah and Waqar is there to collect free fat cheque per month. They really don't give a damn to improve or work on the team.

Great post, the only work he does repeat the same monotone lines after every defeat. Should just record and play a speaker at every presser.

 

[Saj]

You need leaders to drive players forward, drive team-mates on.

I don't see many leaders in the team or players who can carry others forward.

 

[Zaz]

You need leaders to drive players forward, drive team-mates on.

I don't see many leaders in the team or players who can carry others forward.

The likes of azhar and shafiq should be leaders by now in body language and performance in runs

Driving the team forward and potraying that confidence of dependability that the newer players can fall back on

Azhar at least has a positive body language if not performance

Shafiq potrays nothing positive He always looks n plays like hes playing his first test

 

[Junaids]

You need leaders to drive players forward, drive team-mates on.

I don't see many leaders in the team or players who can carry others forward.

And yet Mickey Arthur saw precisely such a character in this team.

Shadab Khan!

And his first innings batting was the most positive thing that the team did in the whole match.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

It wasn’t an unfortunate run out, it was an inept run out. Burns and Buttler were also both given out in the 2nd innings on umpire’s call — this happens to every team.

There can be no excuses for Pakistan’s 2nd innings batting imo, it was even worse than England’s 1st innings batting!! And was really poor throughout with only Shan getting unlucky down the leg side.

English bowling was sensational
Unfortunately they're not getting enough credit

This is two bowlers with 400 plus wickets
The Walsh and ambrose of our generation

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

I remember President Reagan saying that:

“A recession is when your neighbour loses his job.

A depression is when you lose your own job.

A recovery is when President Carter loses his.”

This is similar: Pakistan has an incredibly bright future - but it won’t start until Misbah is removed.

Misbah is what is holding them back with his Azhar’s and Shafiqs and Imran’s and Sohail’s and Iftikhars and Hafeez’s and Kashifs and Abids and Sarfraz’s.

It’s 2020, not 2012.

Why would a guy like Wasim Khan, who has experience in the UK system, appoint Misbah then? Misbah must have told him a great story!

 

[Saj]

And yet Mickey Arthur saw precisely such a character in this team.

Shadab Khan!

And his first innings batting was the most positive thing that the team did in the whole match.

If you think the current Pakistan team has such leaders, then you are living in cloud cuckoo land.

 

[Saj]

The likes of azhar and shafiq should be leaders by now in body language and performance in runs

Driving the team forward and potraying that confidence of dependability that the newer players can fall back on

Azhar at least has a positive body language if not performance

Shafiq potrays nothing positive He always looks n plays like hes playing his first test

The only person I saw motivating his team-mates, driving them forward and urging them to push themselves was Mohammad Rizwan. The others are either too young or don't have the personality to be a leader.

 

[MMHS]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION],
Whats your opinion about Misbah's term? Will he be there until 2021 or get another 3-4 years extension to let his buddies (S & I Khan, Azhar, Shafiq, Wahab..) play another 4+ years?

I think, he'll stay till 2023 WC, in one of the two (three) roles for sure, most likely Head Coach. PCB will hire a batting coach for sure and probably the Selector's role will be modified, keeping Misbah in loop but not in charge.

I think, there are three reasons for this -

1. PCB is looking to hire/groom domestic coaches, which in the long term isn't a bad idea. Day by day top International coaches are becoming snobs because of their new found fortune around T20 leagues.
2. Misbah has very good relationship (& reputation) among the decision makers (including the highest authority of PAK).
3. Let's be honest - this is a poor PAK cricket generation, super hyped here at PP, but in reality most of these hypers won't bother to watch PAK players apart from few.

Misbah or no Misbah, a coach can hardly do much unless players are there. This is true for every sports, but most applicable for cricket which despite being a team game, more individualistic - it's ultimately the battle between the bowler bowling & the batsman facing. In games like Soccer or Basketball a top coach can extract 2+2=5 out of an average or good bunch, but it's tough in cricket, impossible in Test cricket - 10 Shadab Khans with 30/40 bat/ball average won't do any jack in Test cricket .... but add just one batsman averaging 58 and one pacer averaging 23 with BD or AFG squad, impact will be immense. This is where PAK is struggling and it's beyond alone Misbah's (Or any Coach) capacity. People talk about what Arthur did, but tend to forget that Arthur had one Younis Khan and one Yasir Shah at their prime. And, Bob Woolmer under achieved with that PAK squad that had Inzi, MoYo, YK, Sohaib, Kaneria, A Razzak, Arshad, Gul, Sami, Asif ..... most of them in their peak.

 

[GreenKhan]

I find it ridiculous that people are questioning the performance and quality of Shadab Khan in this match .

His partnership with Shan kept Pakistan in the game . He batted with intent and gave the innings momentum.
He picked up two crucial lower order wickets in England’s first innings and did not fare any worse than anyone else with the bat in the 2nd innings .

He was on of the bright sparks of the match . He justified his selection and is one for the future and needs to be persisted with .

He provides useful runs (33 average ) and his bowling will get better and is probably our best fielder .

What else do we want from a 21 year old .

 

[Shafi]

I think, he'll stay till 2023 WC, in one of the two (three) roles for sure, most likely Head Coach. PCB will hire a batting coach for sure and probably the Selector's role will be modified, keeping Misbah in loop but not in charge.

I think, there are three reasons for this -

1. PCB is looking to hire/groom domestic coaches, which in the long term isn't a bad idea. Day by day top International coaches are becoming snobs because of their new found fortune around T20 leagues.
2. Misbah has very good relationship (& reputation) among the decision makers (including the highest authority of PAK).
3. Let's be honest - this is a poor PAK cricket generation, super hyped here at PP, but in reality most of these hypers won't bother to watch PAK players apart from few.

Misbah or no Misbah, a coach can hardly do much unless players are there. This is true for every sports, but most applicable for cricket which despite being a team game, more individualistic - it's ultimately the battle between the bowler bowling & the batsman facing. In games like Soccer or Basketball a top coach can extract 2+2=5 out of an average or good bunch, but it's tough in cricket, impossible in Test cricket - 10 Shadab Khans with 30/40 bat/ball average won't do any jack in Test cricket .... but add just one batsman averaging 58 and one pacer averaging 23 with BD or AFG squad, impact will be immense. This is where PAK is struggling and it's beyond alone Misbah's (Or any Coach) capacity. People talk about what Arthur did, but tend to forget that Arthur had one Younis Khan and one Yasir Shah at their prime. And, Bob Woolmer under achieved with that PAK squad that had Inzi, MoYo, YK, Sohaib, Kaneria, A Razzak, Arshad, Gul, Sami, Asif ..... most of them in their peak.

So Misbah may get 2 more years extension from 2021 to 2023+ after the failure!!! PCB's reputation will be tarnished a lot then with Wasim Khan will be blamed (Although according to rumor IK was behind Misbah's selection which will make IK's cricket knowledge inadequate or favoritism).

How about Misbah's buddies Azhar, Shafiq, S and I Khan, Wahab or even Sarfraz's future?

 

[shamaan]

I find it ridiculous that people are questioning the performance and quality of Shadab Khan in this match .

His partnership with Shan kept Pakistan in the game . He batted with intent and gave the innings momentum.
He picked up two crucial lower order wickets in England’s first innings and did not fare any worse than anyone else with the bat in the 2nd innings .

He was on of the bright sparks of the match . He justified his selection and is one for the future and needs to be persisted with .

He provides useful runs (33 average ) and his bowling will get better and is probably our best fielder .

What else do we want from a 21 year old .

I blame the captain he should have bowled more overs dont think they no what is actual role is

 

[Bullet Drive]

I think, he'll stay till 2023 WC, in one of the two (three) roles for sure, most likely Head Coach. PCB will hire a batting coach for sure and probably the Selector's role will be modified, keeping Misbah in loop but not in charge.

I think, there are three reasons for this -

1. PCB is looking to hire/groom domestic coaches, which in the long term isn't a bad idea. Day by day top International coaches are becoming snobs because of their new found fortune around T20 leagues.
2. Misbah has very good relationship (& reputation) among the decision makers (including the highest authority of PAK).
3. Let's be honest - this is a poor PAK cricket generation, super hyped here at PP, but in reality most of these hypers won't bother to watch PAK players apart from few.

Misbah or no Misbah, a coach can hardly do much unless players are there. This is true for every sports, but most applicable for cricket which despite being a team game, more individualistic - it's ultimately the battle between the bowler bowling & the batsman facing. In games like Soccer or Basketball a top coach can extract 2+2=5 out of an average or good bunch, but it's tough in cricket, impossible in Test cricket - 10 Shadab Khans with 30/40 bat/ball average won't do any jack in Test cricket .... but add just one batsman averaging 58 and one pacer averaging 23 with BD or AFG squad, impact will be immense. This is where PAK is struggling and it's beyond alone Misbah's (Or any Coach) capacity. People talk about what Arthur did, but tend to forget that Arthur had one Younis Khan and one Yasir Shah at their prime. And, Bob Woolmer under achieved with that PAK squad that had Inzi, MoYo, YK, Sohaib, Kaneria, A Razzak, Arshad, Gul, Sami, Asif ..... most of them in their peak.

Abdullah Shafique and Saud Shakeel are coming, two batting greats of the game.

 

[Syed1]

Not even three years to the next world cup left and considering the state of our team and with Misbah as the cricket czar I can already foresee a dismal end.


Wasim Khan is all talk. I realized this when he talked a big game and then went ahead and appointed Misbah as coach AND selector.

Kaunsi dewaar pe sar marooon.


Abhi bhi time hai, can we not politely request Mickey to come back. He would happily leave the Lankans and come over. I was a big critic of his but in front of Misbah he seems like maestro of coaching.

 

[Junaids]

The only person I saw motivating his team-mates, driving them forward and urging them to push themselves was Mohammad Rizwan. The others are either too young or don't have the personality to be a leader.

You are betraying a milder version of the same bias towards age and experience that Misbah has.

Rizwan’s pushing was less than Shadab’s when he changed the tone of the first innings and indeed the match. But you disregard Shadab because he is too young as he isn’t even 22 until October.

To which I say “Graeme Smith”.

Smith replaced Shaun Pollock as skipper when he was only 4 months older. And he had already by the age of 21 got under he skin of both opponents - notably the Aussies - and team-mates because he didn’t tolerate under-performing seniors and would not bow down to them.

Sound familiar?

Smith was appointed BECAUSE he did not bow down to failing senior players. And in spite of his tactical limitations he was a great skipper. And hard choices were made, such as dropping Shaun Pollock when his performances dipped.

Pakistan has three options.

1. Keep a geriatric yes-man as non-playing captain.

2. Appoint Shan Masood for two years only until Babar or Shadab is ready.

3. Appoint a skipper of the right sage. The problem is that Babar is too meek and Shadab is two years too young.

I’d make Shan Masood skipper right now, drop Azhar, and make Shadab the Voce-captain.

 

[ManFan]

You are betraying a milder version of the same bias towards age and experience that Misbah has.

Rizwan’s pushing was less than Shadab’s when he changed the tone of the first innings and indeed the match. But you disregard Shadab because he is too young as he isn’t even 22 until October.

To which I say “Graeme Smith”.

Smith replaced Shaun Pollock as skipper when he was only 4 months older. And he had already by the age of 21 got under he skin of both opponents - notably the Aussies - and team-mates because he didn’t tolerate under-performing seniors and would not bow down to them.

Sound familiar?

Smith was appointed BECAUSE he did not bow down to failing senior players. And in spite of his tactical limitations he was a great skipper. And hard choices were made, such as dropping Shaun Pollock when his performances dipped.

Pakistan has three options.

1. Keep a geriatric yes-man as non-playing captain.

2. Appoint Shan Masood for two years only until Babar or Shadab is ready.

3. Appoint a skipper of the right sage. The problem is that Babar is too meek and Shadab is two years too young.

I’d make Shan Masood skipper right now, drop Azhar, and make Shadab the Voce-captain.

All the rules that govern ambitious men are the same but you are forgetting one crucial difference in your analogy; Smith was appointed by CSA and not the PCB.

The scenario you have envisioned will never ensue under a rotten core of men.

 

[MMHS]

You are betraying a milder version of the same bias towards age and experience that Misbah has.

Rizwan’s pushing was less than Shadab’s when he changed the tone of the first innings and indeed the match. But you disregard Shadab because he is too young as he isn’t even 22 until October.

To which I say “Graeme Smith”.

Smith replaced Shaun Pollock as skipper when he was only 4 months older. And he had already by the age of 21 got under he skin of both opponents - notably the Aussies - and team-mates because he didn’t tolerate under-performing seniors and would not bow down to them.

Sound familiar?

Smith was appointed BECAUSE he did not bow down to failing senior players. And in spite of his tactical limitations he was a great skipper. And hard choices were made, such as dropping Shaun Pollock when his performances dipped.

Pakistan has three options.

1. Keep a geriatric yes-man as non-playing captain.

2. Appoint Shan Masood for two years only until Babar or Shadab is ready.

3. Appoint a skipper of the right sage. The problem is that Babar is too meek and Shadab is two years too young.

I’d make Shan Masood skipper right now, drop Azhar, and make Shadab the Voce-captain.

Really - you are saying “Graeme Smith”, for Shadab Khan......

Lord, pardon the sinner ....... no, no it’s for me - I am crucifying myself before dinner.

 

[MMHS]

Abdullah Shafique and Saud Shakeel are coming, two batting greats of the game.

When?

Saud will be officially 25 in a month, and Abdullah hasn't even debuted in FC cricket - still 4-5 years to go before Misbah knows his name. I don't think PCT's average age is going down soon - if not Azhar, they'll bring Shehzad first ...... also, MoHa is still not retired........

 

[Swashbuckler]

In his 2nd year in international cricket Graeme Smith scored a 259 and 277 in England against Gough, Harmison, Flintoff, Anderson. What must Shadab do to equal that? I mean come on most of us are here because we like the Pakistani team but so often some members here go OTT.

To be captain the player must first be a guaranteed starter in all conditions, the precise reason Ashwin was overlooked for captaincy despite him being a more astute thinker than Kohli. I don't think PCT has fallen in such dire straits that Shadab should be a guaranteed starter. Maybe if he turns his career around like Steve Smith we can talk.

Don't post much these days because of work but I do occasionally lurk, and so much nonsense is being repeated here about Shadab being an option ahead of Yasir, now as captain. Had to raise my strong objection, get this thing off my chest. Test cricket is fundamentally a sport of specialists and so called all rounders (rarity) must make the XI at least in one department, Shakib is probably the only balanced all rounder but that is topic for another day. This guy Shadab isn't even a specialist in white ball cricket, what are you expecting in the holy grail?

 

[QalandarFan]

I remember President Reagan saying that:

“A recession is when your neighbour loses his job.

A depression is when you lose your own job.

A recovery is when President Carter loses his.”

This is similar: Pakistan has an incredibly bright future - but it won’t start until Misbah is removed.

Misbah is what is holding them back with his Azhar’s and Shafiqs and Imran’s and Sohail’s and Iftikhars and Hafeez’s and Kashifs and Abids and Sarfraz’s.

It’s 2020, not 2012.

That too after Mickey had gotten rid of all the Imran Khans, Sohail Khans, Ifthikars, and I’m sure would have axed Asad and Azahar soon as well. Misbah however, brining back all the TTF’s.

I’m not even sure our backup bowlers, Imran Khan and Sohail Khan have the fitness to bowl for 2 full innings smh.

 

[QalandarFan]

When?

Saud will be officially 25 in a month, and Abdullah hasn't even debuted in FC cricket - still 4-5 years to go before Misbah knows his name. I don't think PCT's average age is going down soon - if not Azhar, they'll bring Shehzad first ...... also, MoHa is still not retired........

Misbah will bring back everyone he has played with before selecting anyone new. I am still upset to this day that we removed Mickey Arthur as our head coach. We finished 5th in the World Cup, we were #1 in T20I’s for 4 years, the only place we weren’t doing as good was tests, but even Misbah isn’t going to win many tests with a washed up Azhar Ali, and an Asad Shafiq who has gotten more inconsistent with time.

Mickey and Inzi for all the hate they got brought in new young players, while Misbah as seen by the selections of Ifti Chacha, Sohail Khan, Imran Khan, and the appointment of Azhar as Teat Captain is still stuck in 2011.

All we needed to do was sack Sarfraz as captain and make Babar captain in all three formats and with Mickey as coach, we would be doing much better than we are with Misbah.

 

[QalandarFan]

I usually supported Misbah as a player and captain because of where he took our team from the dark times of 2010 and all the way to the #1 ranking 6 years later in England. He was an excellent test captain and player and no one can change my mind on that you don’t draw against a dominant South Africa team at home and whitewash England and Australia with “defensive” captaincy.

However, as a coach and selector Misbah has been atrocious and I can not support selections of 36 year old pace bowlers and batsman.

 

[Bullet Drive]

When?

Saud will be officially 25 in a month, and Abdullah hasn't even debuted in FC cricket - still 4-5 years to go before Misbah knows his name. I don't think PCT's average age is going down soon - if not Azhar, they'll bring Shehzad first ...... also, MoHa is still not retired........

Abdullah has played 1 FC game and scored 133 in the only innings, but yeah got your point.

What would be amazing(because I respect your opinion highly) would be a list of things that these young batsmen should do. Like tips and advice and stuff like that.

 

[MMHS]

Misbah will bring back everyone he has played with before selecting anyone new. I am still upset to this day that we removed Mickey Arthur as our head coach. We finished 5th in the World Cup, we were #1 in T20I’s for 4 years, the only place we weren’t doing as good was tests, but even Misbah isn’t going to win many tests with a washed up Azhar Ali, and an Asad Shafiq who has gotten more inconsistent with time.

Mickey and Inzi for all the hate they got brought in new young players, while Misbah as seen by the selections of Ifti Chacha, Sohail Khan, Imran Khan, and the appointment of Azhar as Teat Captain is still stuck in 2011.

All we needed to do was sack Sarfraz as captain and make Babar captain in all three formats and with Mickey as coach, we would be doing much better than we are with Misbah.

They say, if you want to analyse a man’s action - go back to his history. Misbah was unique as an individual - he won a MOS in UK Test series at the official age of 42, was the best batsman in WIN at like 44. He was a late bloomer because he kept himself fit & he had the personality (from his educational background he better managed himself in both ways I guess) - but he was exception, shouldn’t be an example. This is one blunder he (& PCB as well) is doing.

Second factor is, if you look at his Captaincy, Misbah often was a silent operator, who would do good house keeping but expect individuals to take charge for themselves. It does work if you have a good team with several experienced players in it. Leading a cricket team with younger players needs lots of courage, dedication (in mentoring) and communication, almost constant monitoring, which wasn’t Misbah’s cup of tea. This has nothing to do with how extrovert one is, rather how enthusiastic you are - his distant relative was PAK Captain for several years and that gentleman wasn’t vocal either, but he would have stood at mid-on and constantly guide his young bowlers, almost ball by ball. Misbah didn’t like this hence he was always inclined to pick seasoned pros, players experienced for 6-7.. 10-12 years in FC cricket who knows how to operate individually. Misbah’s job was fore of a CEO, who assigns task and expects people won’t bother him for suggestions rather should know what is asked for.

He couldn’t get over his past even as a coach & selector hence his picks will always be biased towards experienced players. And to PCT’s misfortune, the current captain is a fade copy of Misbah. PCB appointed him for two counter balancing roles - now he can pick players of his choice, coach them and justify performance as well, which isn’t the worst idea as in other major sports they do so; but here Misbah’s past is diluting his good sense. Personally, I believe he is an honest guy but just not the visionary and broad minded to overcome his own prophecy.

 

[HarunPakCricket]

Abdullah has played 1 FC game and scored 133 in the only innings, but yeah got your point.

What would be amazing(because I respect your opinion highly) would be a list of things that these young batsmen should do. Like tips and advice and stuff like that.

Suprisingly Misbah does know of Abdullah Shafique and rates him very hughly. In fact, It was Misbah who got him selected in FC

 

[Bullet Drive]

Suprisingly Misbah does know of Abdullah Shafique and rates him very hughly. In fact, It was Misbah who got him selected in FC

I'm the one who mentioned this.....

 

[HarunPakCricket]

I'm the one who mentioned this.....

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