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“Waqar said give me 2 years with the 5 quicks and I’ll make them into world beaters” : Wasim Khan

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Wasim Khan speaking on BBC TMS:

“People were asking a lot of questions about why the tour was going ahead and there was a lot of pressure. I was pretty adamant from the word go after talking to ECB that with everything in place, we need to get the guys out to England and everything will be fine.

“The positive COVID tests didn’t really affect the preparations as 8 of the 10 players were white-ball players. The intra-squad games have been highly competitive. In terms of getting prepared, this has probably been great preparation with 20 guys vying for spots in the playing XI.

“It’s important with such a long tour and the biosecure bubble to have the right type of coaching staff who can bring the team together. So I was keen to bring in Mushtaq Ahmed because of the type of individual he is and he knows English conditions. Younis Khan is a batting legend for Pakistan and then we have Waqar and Misbah.

“It’s been full throttle in the warmups with some of the batsmen getting hit on the hand, head, etc. It’s been pretty intense according to what I’ve heard from the coaching staff and the batters have had to work hard to make runs. The spirits are hugely high.

“I think there might be a bit of caution since we haven’t played for a while. All the vibes I’m getting from the coaching staff is that they want the guys to be aggressive and taking England on. Hopefully they’ll be ready to play positive cricket.

“When Misbah took over in 2010, Pakistan cricket was at its lowest ebb. He led throughout the period with dignity and professionalism and we knew what we’ll get with him. Misbah will tell the guys to be positive and get them mentally prepared. With those 2 roles, he’s managed them well. The dual role can only be given to the right type of individual and we felt that he can fulfil the role.

“When Waqar took over, he said give me 2 years with this group of 5 quicks and I’ll make them into world beaters. We’ve kept Musa here so that Waqar can continue to work with him. It’s exciting.

“We just need our batters, Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq, the experienced players, to support Babar so that not everything is left upto him.

“In 2022 we’ve got Australia and England both scheduled to tour. We have a lot of series before that and there are baby steps we’re taking. But right now, there’s no reason they shouldn’t come in 2022. With the MCC tour, and Bangladesh and Sri Lanka touring, and 30 or so players coming for PSL, everything is pointing in the right direction. It’s critical for a country of 200 million to have international cricketers playing cricket in the country.”
 
The only way he can improve Musa over two years is if he puts him on a Medieval Rack and stretches his body by one inch every four months.
 
Reminds me of "Give me 3 chances as an opener" thread, although this has some credibility coming from Waqar.
 
Junaids said:
The only way he can improve Musa over two years is if he puts him on a Medieval Rack and stretches his body by one inch every four months.
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Hahaha

The lad has potential. He just needs to develop a killer short ball like Malcom Marshall.
 
stevewittry said:
Reminds me of "Give me 3 chances as an opener" thread, although this has some credibility coming from Waqar.
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2 years of confirmed wages in the bank for Waqar. Plus free travel and accommodation worldwide.

Master move by him.
 
Not very trusting of Waqar's eye for talent. This is the bowling coach who okayed the selections of Imran Khan and Musa Khan for Australia of all places, and permitted 36 year old Sohail Khan to return.
 
Does Waqars previous track record justify these promises? I think not
 
Like him or not but as a ‘bowling coach’ he has been good. Helped plenty of bowlers Learn swing
 
Why all the hate? It's obvious he has helped them with their bowling. Shaheen is swinging it more and bringing the ball back in.
 
Mixed feelings to be honest. There talented pacers with Waqar they have a good teacher, with that being said it depends how much they would play considering Misbah is Selector as well and his track record with youngsters isn't great.
 
What is he gonna do with Sohail Khan, Imran Khan and Wahab riaz.
Make them world beaters and play till 42 years like Misbah
Should have selected Ehsan adi and Sameen Gul for this series. England and Australia are the place for Pace bowlers to learn and enjoy the art of bowling.

These two Misbah and Waqar are on another mission to take Pak back to no.9
 
Reading the title you would assume in 2 years we will have 5 bowlers at waqars level but bowling the way he did is not replicable easily.

He will work on their line and lengths as per usual, only players like Gul who are mostly haywire n need to guidance, only improve under people like Waqar.

I doubt he will add anything new to Shaheen or Naseem game. But let’s see he has a 2 year stint.

P.s has waqar actually been part of a winning team at a WC or CT before?
 
Maher96 said:
Reading the title you would assume in 2 years we will have 5 bowlers at waqars level but bowling the way he did is not replicable easily.

He will work on their line and lengths as per usual, only players like Gul who are mostly haywire n need to guidance, only improve under people like Waqar.

I doubt he will add anything new to Shaheen or Naseem game. But let’s see he has a 2 year stint.

P.s has waqar actually been part of a winning team at a WC or CT before?
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He has already developed Shaheen’s swing to swing it both ways.

Naseem has improved his run up and action to put less stress on his back, and is also find great late swing in the brief clips released by PCB media.

These are new dimensions that Waqar has added already. If he were to be sacked tomorrow, he will already lay claim to having done a good amount of good work with the two.
 
gazza619 said:
Hahaha

The lad has potential. He just needs to develop a killer short ball like Malcom Marshall.
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Muhammad Abbas is 5'10 or just below. And he has a few inches on Musa.

People talk about Malcolm Marshall being short all the time but forget that he was a shade over 5'11. The only reason he is talked about as being short all the time is because his bowling partners were all 6'3+.
 
Savak said:
Does Waqars previous track record justify these promises? I think not
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actually it does.

The fast bowlers has always done well under him esp in the Woolmer period.

You can argue about his record as head coach overall
 
There are a lot of talented pacers i hope he does something good with them
 
Which other pacers has he turned into world class over the last 15 years working with the pakistan team?
 
Big statement and one that if he achieves will be huge for Pakistan cricket.

I'm yet to be convinced by Musa, in terms of fitness and skillset.

Shaheen, Naseem and Hasnain I have faith in. The jury is still out on Haris, but I think he could be ideal for T20Is.
 
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I really wish Waqar gets time to work with Akif Javed.

He looks ideal for Tests.
 
Waqar was captain for 2-3 years, what does he have to show for it? Destroyed Sami, didn't help Akhtar much either. Razzaq deteriorated as a bowler

He's been on and off as head-coach or bowling-coach since 2007. What has he done? Asif, Amir, Gul, Hasan, etc, etc. Nothing, no one ever credits Waqar the way Younis, Inzi, Yousuf credit Woolmer.

Waqar has no credibility. Wasim Khan is embarrassing himself with statements like these
 
Atleast he didn't say give me 5 years.
Under his watch, Umar Gul and Asif started doing a lot well in 2006.
Then in 2010, Asif, Amir and Gul started doing well (Particularly Gul after suspension of Amir and Asif)
Then in 2015, his work with Sohail Khan and Wahab Riaz did well.
Under Azhar, Shaheen, Abbas, Junaid, Wahab started doing well.
apart from that, our bowlers have only receded under other bowling coaches since 2006.

So there is a hope.
I just hope Amad Butt gets a go along with some other emerging guys. And Sadaf Husain be given atleast a chance even though he's past his prime now while we were investing in the likes of Ehsan Adil, Mohammad Talha and Rahat Ali.
 
coy0607 said:
Waqar was captain for 2-3 years, what does he have to show for it? Destroyed Sami, didn't help Akhtar much either. Razzaq deteriorated as a bowler

He's been on and off as head-coach or bowling-coach since 2007. What has he done? Asif, Amir, Gul, Hasan, etc, etc. Nothing, no one ever credits Waqar the way Younis, Inzi, Yousuf credit Woolmer.

Waqar has no credibility. Wasim Khan is embarrassing himself with statements like these
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Would you please like to elaborate? :inti
 
I'm not expecting much from Waqar, he was a legendary bowler but he's not suited for any form of leadership or management role. Sometimes I feel that these guys will do anything for money to roll into their pockets, would love to be proven wrong since I want to see some world class bowlers being churned out from our system.
 
coy0607 said:
Waqar was captain for 2-3 years, what does he have to show for it? Destroyed Sami, didn't help Akhtar much either. Razzaq deteriorated as a bowler

He's been on and off as head-coach or bowling-coach since 2007. What has he done? Asif, Amir, Gul, Hasan, etc, etc. Nothing, no one ever credits Waqar the way Younis, Inzi, Yousuf credit Woolmer.

Waqar has no credibility. Wasim Khan is embarrassing himself with statements like these
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Akhtar credit Waqar a lot (in his playing years) but says he was bad head coach.

Umar Gul started become quality bowler under Waqar and Rana did well too.

Sami’s downfall started in 2005 or so after Waqar had left playing days
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Wasim Khan should work as media manager. This guy is all talk.
 
WASIM KHAN, CEO of Pakistan Cricket, on Sky reasserts that the players on tour were very comfortable to come to England despite the impact of the coronavirus pandemic.

“Just as importantly we’ve lost a generation potentially of cricketers.

“Thankfully, the PCB has kept its head above water and we are not in a position where we are relying on ICC handouts completely – there is a level of self-sustainability and it might be because we’re the only sport in this country.

“Unlike in England where you are constantly having to sell the game to youngsters, we are pushing at an open door in many ways.

“Our franchise owners will hold a talent hunt day and probably 3,000-5,000 youngsters from the age of 16-21 will turn up hoping to be found and then get an opportunity.”
 
MenInG said:
WASIM KHAN, CEO of Pakistan Cricket, on Sky reasserts that the players on tour were very comfortable to come to England despite the impact of the coronavirus pandemic.

“Just as importantly we’ve lost a generation potentially of cricketers.

“Thankfully, the PCB has kept its head above water and we are not in a position where we are relying on ICC handouts completely – there is a level of self-sustainability and it might be because we’re the only sport in this country.

“Unlike in England where you are constantly having to sell the game to youngsters, we are pushing at an open door in many ways.

“Our franchise owners will hold a talent hunt day and probably 3,000-5,000 youngsters from the age of 16-21 will turn up hoping to be found and then get an opportunity.”
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[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION]
I have a question brother, where did Wasim Khan say that the franchise owners will hold a talent hunt day? Is this the interview on SkySports because I watched it a couple of times and he did not state that. Can you please clarify where he stated that?
 
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MoFresh23 said:
[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION]
I have a question brother, where did Wasim Khan say that the franchise owners will hold a talent hunt day? Is this the interview on SkySports because I watched it a couple of times and he did not state that. Can you please clarify where he stated that?
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He said that franchise owners have held talent days in the past. “They will hold a talent day and 3000-5000 will show up” is just an expression
 
MenInG said:
WASIM KHAN, CEO of Pakistan Cricket, on Sky reasserts that the players on tour were very comfortable to come to England despite the impact of the coronavirus pandemic.

“Just as importantly we’ve lost a generation potentially of cricketers.

“Thankfully, the PCB has kept its head above water and we are not in a position where we are relying on ICC handouts completely – there is a level of self-sustainability and it might be because we’re the only sport in this country.

“Unlike in England where you are constantly having to sell the game to youngsters, we are pushing at an open door in many ways.

“Our franchise owners will hold a talent hunt day and probably 3,000-5,000 youngsters from the age of 16-21 will turn up hoping to be found and then get an opportunity.”
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Yeah right!!!!!
Do you really believe him? He delivers these type of statements to give fans false hope, then he chose Misbah as selector cum coach who selected expired players like Azhar, Sohail, Imran, Bhatti, Wahab, Abid, Fawad.....
 
ExplicitAI said:
I'm not expecting much from Waqar, he was a legendary bowler but he's not suited for any form of leadership or management role. Sometimes I feel that these guys will do anything for money to roll into their pockets, would love to be proven wrong since I want to see some world class bowlers being churned out from our system.
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Waqar has all the right credentials yo be a successful mentor/coach to the young and inexperienced quick bowlers pakistan has.
 
Manunited18 said:
Waqar has all the right credentials yo be a successful mentor/coach to the young and inexperienced quick bowlers pakistan has.
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I think this role is the only one that should be suitable for him, should only focus on bettering our fast bowling stocks; he has a horrendous record as head coach (except for the 2011 WC in which he was decent). So far I'm happy with the likes of Abbas, Afridi and Naseem; only thing to be concerned about now is the ODI bowling attack and how Babar will utilise them.
 
So when exactly do these 2 years come to and end?

With SSA regressing, Naseem “returning” to domestics/PSL under suspicion of “injury”/his pace dropping, Hassan returning to the side and not being able to get wickets with reverse (despite the ball reversing reasonably) not to mention his tepid pace, Musa’s “delectable” showing in AUS not sure what other horizons have been left unscathed by Waqar for him to conquer.

The next Test venue, on paper, supports pacers. Something needs to come good pretty soon here.
 
Great job as usual, Wasim Khan. What would we do without your professionalism and expertise.
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
In Pakistani years, add 3 or 4 to the original....:sendoff
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Rhetorical on my part. The idea was to bump the thread and get the opinion of better placed posters than I, who may have something to say on Waqar’s interactions with the media in regards to pacers.

The problem is that when PAK win, most things get brushed under the carpet. Waqar will likely be absolved here by citing spin friendly conditions despite ample reverse swing having been on offer.

Likewise, Younus may not get as many questions despite Abid’s struggles. Cannot have two walking wickets at home, especially if one of them is as experienced as Abid is.
 
Yk313 said:
So when exactly do these 2 years come to and end?

With SSA regressing, Naseem “returning” to domestics/PSL under suspicion of “injury”/his pace dropping, Hassan returning to the side and not being able to get wickets with reverse (despite the ball reversing reasonably) not to mention his tepid pace, Musa’s “delectable” showing in AUS not sure what other horizons have been left unscathed by Waqar for him to conquer.

The next Test venue, on paper, supports pacers. Something needs to come good pretty soon here.
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The question is - do we blame the certified failure of a bowling coach has already failed on 5 previous occasions or do we blame the professional and competent administrator who appointed him?

Does Wasim Khan even know how many stints Waqar has had and what his performance was like? I thought you are supposed to do background checks and look at past performances before hiring someone.
 
Mamoon said:
The question is - do we blame the certified failure of a bowling coach has already failed on 5 previous occasions or do we blame the professional and competent administrator who appointed him?

Does Wasim Khan even know how many stints Waqar has had and what his performance was like? I thought you are supposed to do background checks and look at past performances before hiring someone.
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Hey, Mamoon, I wanted to ask. I know we don't have much quality, but why is our pace attack on a new level of awful?

In the past, we had Gul, Wahab, Tanvir Ahmed, Sohail, Rahat, etc. Who were all mediocre. But at least they took wickets and won us games here and there.

These guys now can barely even buy a wicket and get hammered whenever they come on. It's really baffling to me.

Surely it's not hard to beat the level of Wahab Riaz etc. in tests??
 
Mamoon said:
The question is - do we blame the certified failure of a bowling coach has already failed on 5 previous occasions or do we blame the professional and competent administrator who appointed him?

Does Wasim Khan even know how many stints Waqar has had and what his performance was like? I thought you are supposed to do background checks and look at past performances before hiring someone.
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The questions are not mutually exclusive. Once a candidate signs above the dotted line, they become liable for their/their wards’ performances. Much like their superiors do for hiring them.

Also, background checks are performed once able and credible candidates proceed far enough in meritocratic selection processes. Not applicable in the case of our esteemed bowling “coach” as he should not make it that far in any such process.
 
So where are we at?

Naseem + Abbas = Dropped
Shaheen = Showing absolutely no improvement
Musa = ???
Hasnain = See above

50 points to Gryffindor to anyone who can figure out the common denominator here.
 
If Pakistan wants to improve they need to get in a specialist bowling coach like Donald , Bond etc. Otherwise with Waqar the fast bowling will continue to regress.
 
The concept of bowling coach, batting coach in an international team is a rubbish and laughable idea.
 
Mainul said:
The concept of bowling coach, batting coach in an international team is a rubbish and laughable idea.
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It is , and to put it bluntly - if you as a coach can only deliver a world class player when you have a talent of the calibre of a Bradman, Sobers, Viv, Tendulkar or Wasim there for you to ‘coach’ then , well , even I can do the job of a specialist coach.

In fact I can do it voluntarily for the Pakistan cricket team and will also offer my services to the Pakistan football team to produce a world class striker — all I ask is that the honourable selectors find me a youngster of the calibre of Messi, Ronaldo or Maradona.
 
hitthestump said:
So where are we at?

Naseem + Abbas = Dropped
Shaheen = Showing absolutely no improvement
Musa = ???
Hasnain = See above

50 points to Gryffindor to anyone who can figure out the common denominator here.
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Hassan, despite there being *visible* reverse on offer, hardly looking potent.
 
Still doubt Waqar’s bowling plans though. Technically he’s great but the rest is up in the air.
 
Majid Khan said:
It is , and to put it bluntly - if you as a coach can only deliver a world class player when you have a talent of the calibre of a Bradman, Sobers, Viv, Tendulkar or Wasim there for you to ‘coach’ then , well , even I can do the job of a specialist coach.

In fact I can do it voluntarily for the Pakistan cricket team and will also offer my services to the Pakistan football team to produce a world class striker — all I ask is that the honourable selectors find me a youngster of the calibre of Messi, Ronaldo or Maradona.
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That's the point. I haven't found a single bowling or batting coach in any international team who made an average/ordinary player into extraordinary by coaching ,who moulded a player significantly .I hear the term 'fine tuning' . What is it? You fine tune Tendulkar into Tendulkar, you fine tune Ahmed Shehzad into the same Ahmed Shehzad? Yah I can do that job too.
 
Waqar is living in a fairy land. Whenever you give a statement that says 'I' will do this, it means that nothing good will come out of it. Wasim Khan should have known this, and not fall for these type of gimmicks.
 
HappyWarsFan said:
Hey, Mamoon, I wanted to ask. I know we don't have much quality, but why is our pace attack on a new level of awful?

In the past, we had Gul, Wahab, Tanvir Ahmed, Sohail, Rahat, etc. Who were all mediocre. But at least they took wickets and won us games here and there.

These guys now can barely even buy a wicket and get hammered whenever they come on. It's really baffling to me.

Surely it's not hard to beat the level of Wahab Riaz etc. in tests??
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Poor selection and lack of talent are two major factors.

Delusional fans bullied Misbah into selecting Naseem in England and New Zealand when Sohail would have done a better job.

Obviously, Sohail is no world beater and the results would not have changed, but at an individual level, he would have done better than Naseem because he is more skilled and has more of a bowling brain.

Sohail’s fitness is poor but it is not as if these other bowlers are athletes. They are all out of gas after the first spell. Over the last few years, Sohail should definitely have played more because he is one of the very few bowlers in Pakistan who can actually swing the new ball.

Lack of talent is obviously a factor as well. The likes of Naseem and Musa were hyped and given a platform to prove themselves, but when you watch them bowl, it is obvious that they do not have the talent to succeed at this level.

Hassan Ali also does not have the skill to be a successful Test bowler. He is a LOIs specialist.

We selected that 40 year old Tabish Khan to save us after the flop experiment with a couple of talentless young pacers. This really shows how empty the cupboard is.

If Pakistan cannot find an adequate replacement for Yasir in a few years, our bowling attack will definitely drop down to Bangladesh and Zimbabwe level.
 
We have to look at the quality we have available and what the coaches have to work with.

You cannot just keep plucking brilliant pacers from out of the blue, as we have in the past. It takes years to produce those bowlers through the ranks and via a proper structure and system.

We have been spoilt in the past.
 
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Poor selection and lack of talent are two major factors.

Delusional fans bullied Misbah into selecting Naseem in England and New Zealand when Sohail would have done a better job.

Obviously, Sohail is no world beater and the results would not have changed, but at an individual level, he would have done better than Naseem because he is more skilled and has more of a bowling brain.

Sohail’s fitness is poor but it is not as if these other bowlers are athletes. They are all out of gas after the first spell. Over the last few years, Sohail should definitely have played more because he is one of the very few bowlers in Pakistan who can actually swing the new ball.

Lack of talent is obviously a factor as well. The likes of Naseem and Musa were hyped and given a platform to prove themselves, but when you watch them bowl, it is obvious that they do not have the talent to succeed at this level.

Hassan Ali also does not have the skill to be a successful Test bowler. He is a LOIs specialist.

We selected that 40 year old Tabish Khan to save us after the flop experiment with a couple of talentless young pacers. This really shows how empty the cupboard is.

If Pakistan cannot find an adequate replacement for Yasir in a few years, our bowling attack will definitely drop down to Bangladesh and Zimbabwe level.
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To be honest, from our first class system, there's no quality bowlers besides the one that are with the squad right now.

Hasan Ali, Shaheen Shah Afridi, and a few others are all that we've got, so the real issue is why hasn't Waqar Younis convincingly developed them into better bowlers. Shaheen's been the same since the Sri Lanka test series, so I don't know why we pay Waqar Younis.

There is actually no replacement in domestic cricket who can be as big of a match winner as Yasir Shah has been, and that's going to leave a huge void when he's gone. Personally, I think that Pakistan ought to go with a finger-spinner once Yasir leaves.
 
Mainul said:
That's the point. I haven't found a single bowling or batting coach in any international team who made an average/ordinary player into extraordinary by coaching ,who moulded a player significantly .I hear the term 'fine tuning' . What is it? You fine tune Tendulkar into Tendulkar, you fine tune Ahmed Shehzad into the same Ahmed Shehzad? Yah I can do that job too.
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Craig McDermott transformed a very down and out Peter Siddle from 2009-10 into a the leader of Australian bowling attack and arguably their leader in all conditions from 2011-2013.
 
It's the same reason why we're not producing many quality batsmen. Cricket in the past 20 years has become increasingly professionalised. There's a science to fast bowling and you need coaches at the grassroots who understand the technicalities of a fast bowler's action, and how to maximise effectiveness while reducing the physical strain on the body.

This is not the 80s and 90s any more for god's sake where you could say "Vicky bhai, phaar do jaake", tamper with the ball to your heart's content, and off you go.

Unfortunately we never invested in local coaching capacity as we're still stuck in the mindset that talent will grow from trees and become overnight stars.
 
Markhor said:
It's the same reason why we're not producing many quality batsmen. Cricket in the past 20 years has become increasingly professionalised. There's a science to fast bowling and you need coaches at the grassroots who understand the technicalities of a fast bowler's action, and how to maximise effectiveness while reducing the physical strain on the body.

This is not the 80s and 90s any more for god's sake where you could say "Vicky bhai, phaar do jaake", tamper with the ball to your heart's content, and off you go.

Unfortunately we never invested in local coaching capacity as we're still stuck in the mindset that talent will grow from trees and become overnight stars.
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Not just that, there was considerable reverse swing on offer. For both sides.

Forget about the pedigreed bowlers of PAK of yore, Steyn would not have wasted this chance like Rabada, Nortje, Ngidi or Hassan did. The ball was doing more than enough for a bowler worth their salt to put together one of those masterclasses of reverse swing. Granted it does go soft quickly due to the surface but normally it only requires a 5-6 over spell to prise 2-3 wickets in these situations.

Neither team actually managed to take a wicket by utilising it optimally. Some lacked pace (Hassan), some lacked accuracy (Nortje and Ngidi).

This thread is about PAK so I will leave SAF out of it from hereon.

Why were Hassan and Shaheen practically impotent with a ball that was shaping nicely? Why was Hassan bowling like a gentle county seamer might bowl under muggy skies when it was clear he needed to put his entire body into it? Isn’t Waqar the man for this precise job? Now that PAK are playing PAK and pacers should start featuring more heavily in the games, why are they still playing second fiddle despite having reasonably conducive conditions?

Sorry but there was enough on show over the last few days for one to question why Waqar’s wards were failing to demonstrate Waqar’s specialty despite supporting conditions.

Agree with the point about professionalism (lack thereof) in PAK, but the reverse swing point is just too blatant an expose.
 
How is Waqar getting on with his claim?

To clarify he was talking about Naseem, Shaheen, Musa, Hasnain and Rauf.

Do we have them as world beaters yet? Perhaps we need a "where are they now" type post for each bowler.
 
Looks like Wasim Khan is very new to Pakistan cricket bc everyone and their dog knows that Waqar is a fraud coach
 
Musa Khan - can’t get a game in the PSL.

Mohammad Hasnain - China ka Sami

Naseem Shah - Na Seam Na Swing

Shaheen Afridi - Freebies at the death
 
Lucky England didn't give this fool Wasim Khan any position. None of our current bowler is not even equal to Chaminda Vass.
 
I dont even care anymore because PCB has zero shame. Waqar keeps on conning them and they keep bringing him back like their saviour. Ridiculous.
 
Slim said:
I dont even care anymore because PCB has zero shame. Waqar keeps on conning them and they keep bringing him back like their saviour. Ridiculous.
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Exactly!!!!! Disappointed with IK whom I thought much smarter but he turned out to be bigger fool by choosing most useless people like Misbah and Waqar in coaching for the national team, timid and unfit person like Mani as PCB boss and fool like Wasim Khan.
 
As concerning as Waqar and Misbahs lack of coaching ability is, what is just as bad is their inability to even identify talent, best exemplified by their horrible selection of fast bowlers for that Australia tour. For example what exactly did they see in Musa Khan that they thought that short midget mediocre bowler would be successful on a tour of Australia (or against any team at the international level)?!?
 
one of the worst coaches going, tired of hating on him hes been rubbish so long tbh. doesnt even get a look in with a foreign team, hanging on to this job cos its obvious itd be his last.

was a speed demon at his peak, hardly the kinda bowler who had to work out how to get batsmen out. cant believe im thinking this but shoaib would pbly make a better bowling coach than waqar.
 
zacattakk said:
As concerning as Waqar and Misbahs lack of coaching ability is, what is just as bad is their inability to even identify talent, best exemplified by their horrible selection of fast bowlers for that Australia tour. For example what exactly did they see in Musa Khan that they thought that short midget mediocre bowler would be successful on a tour of Australia (or against any team at the international level)?!?
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37 year old Mohammad Irfan in the T20i

Imam ul Haq opening a T20i in Australia
 
Rain is keep saving Misbah and Waqar. Last time England couldn't whitewash by 4-0 us because of rain and final score looks like 1-0.
 
You can take a guy out of his pind....but you can't take the pind out of him. Great bowler but literally terrible at identifying who to invest time in and which players to play. I respect his efforts while serving Pakistan but him and Misbah combined together are smaller worse than having a pea brain. Literally.
 
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Waqar is a 'slow poison' type of coach.

Much rather a Greg Chappell type who will create a storm and fizzle out in a matter of years rather than Waqar who comes back for repeat doses and lingers for decades.
 
World beater. Match winner.

These terminologies, when used by uneducated buffoons is bound to give zero result. No wonder none of the Pakistan management and players can string together two decent sentences that explain any situation with logic.
 
Varun said:
Waqar is a 'slow poison' type of coach.

Much rather a Greg Chappell type who will create a storm and fizzle out in a matter of years rather than Waqar who comes back for repeat doses and lingers for decades.
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Waqar and misbah both have been a continuing part of pakistan cricket for the last 14 years. For them this is their livelihood. Where else will they work if not pakistani cricket team?
 
Waqar doesn't care about anything else but money
how he is still employed by the pcb after his failures as a headcoach is pathetic.

funny part is people said he isn't suitable as a headcoach... make him a bowling coach.. well as a headcoach he is in charge of all departments but now as a bowling coach only he is still failing

utter disgrace in it for the the $
nothing i said here isn't the truth
 
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