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It’s currently that time of year when there is no proper cricket and my attention switches totally to the UEFA Champions League and the various English leagues.

(Currently the English Second Division is fascinating).

But we are now only 100 days away from the main event of the English summer - The Ashes!

Up until then we can watch England try to hold off the resurgent Dutch in the UEFA Nations League, and there is the 50 over World Cup to fill our screens with meaningless wallpaper until The Ashes starts.

But a 50 overs World Cup in England is a cause for sadness, as we hosted three proper 60 overs World Cups which allowed for a much higher level of play.

Still, there’s only 100 days to go until proper cricket resumes!
 
Yea, you and the handful of your likes can keep waiting for another 100 days. While pyjama fans like us will gladly enjoy the ODI World Cup and relish it.

BTW, a big time failed attempt at trolling. Anyone with an ounce of brain can see it.
 
Lol.

I am a fan of Test Cricket but the World Cup is a pinnacle tournament and is just as important.

That's like saying everyone is interested in UEFA Champions League but no one is interested in the Football World Cup.
 
Lol.

I am a fan of Test Cricket but the World Cup is a pinnacle tournament and is just as important.

That's like saying everyone is interested in UEFA Champions League but no one is interested in the Football World Cup.

Funny thing is even my favorite format is Test cricket, has always been. But I can clearly see what he tried to do here.
 
Lol at mourning the death of 60 over cricket. Yep cricket fans up and down the nation are in pieces over this.
 
Why should Non Aussie, Non English fans care about the Ashes? Why do you think your rivalry is so special to the neutrals?
 
Lol at mourning the death of 60 over cricket. Yep cricket fans up and down the nation are in pieces over this.
60 over cricket was brilliant!

The quicks could bowl 3 four over spells.

The fifth bowler had nowhere to hide if they weren’t good enough.

The conditions actually changed. And the teams needed to think hard about whether to take risks in the overs leading up to Lunch and Tea.

If you look at the 1975 and 1979 World Cups, they incorporated all the best aspects of Test cricket combined with rewards for being able to accelerate.
 
All home matches for England in the up coming WC will be sold out , so I think a lot of English fans are actually looking forward to the WC.
 
Everything of the past is brilliant, even the 60 overs ODI World Cup :))
 
Pointless article, sounds like the OP is trolling, but i am quite enjoying the IPL, plus the Royal London ODI CUP then there will be the pak-eng series followed by the world cup. Plenty of cricket up until the ashes, in my opinion probably the poorest series of the lot at the moment going by the past few series.
 
Can’t wait for Ashes 2019!

After many many years we are promised a hard fought Ashes series with this resurgent Aussie team strengthened by the return of 4 key players missing during India series.

The World Cup clearly seems like a nuisance before proper cricket resumes.

As a proud fan of the #1 and the greatest test team in the world (India) I will remain glued to my TV and cricket apps during the Ashes.

Let the girls and children have fun with the cup thing. Everyone should have that’s what makes this game great. It has something for all age groups and genders
amd is not just all about test loving gentlemen.
 
Ashes are boring, who has to time to watch Test Cricket anymore in this day and age
 
As a Test cricket fan, I would admit The Ashes are not bigger than ODI Cricket World Cup.

ODI CWC > The Ashes or any high-profile Test series > T20 CWC.
 
Many Australians want to win the ashes more than the WC. Maybe coz they've won 5 already but still it tells you the Importance of it. Personally i just think of it as 2 high ranked teams playing test cricket and nothing more than that but it's subjective.
 
Looking forward to both WC and Ashes 2019. Backing Australia to win the Ashes.
 
Many Australians want to win the ashes more than the WC. Maybe coz they've won 5 already but still it tells you the Importance of it. Personally i just think of it as 2 high ranked teams playing test cricket and nothing more than that but it's subjective.

Many English would take ashes over WC too
 
Don't think anyone other than Australians and English will care or think about ashes at the moment. Everyone is busy worrying about the world cup.
 
Lol Junaid is losing his charm. Only 20 replies to his thread doesn't do the GOAT troll of PP justice.

I think it's time for him to retire and @freelance_crickter to take the mantle.
 
This may well end up being the tightest Ashes series in years but I'll be honest, as much as I love test cricket, my focus as a fan is almost entirely on the CWC. It is a huge tournament, with so much hinging on it, with some great modern sides vying for attention (England, India, South Africa) and may even product a higher quality of cricket than the Ashes, which hasn't exactly been a standard bearer for almost 8 years now.
 
The England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) has announced that the Dukes ball for the 2019 Specsavers Test Series against Ireland and Australia will be made to the same specification as those used during the 2017 and 2018 home Test programmes.

It is felt that the 2017-18 specification Dukes ball on Test match pitches has produced highly entertaining cricket that has helped promote the Test format.

The 2019 Dukes ball, used during this year’s Specsavers County Championship, has been produced with a slightly less prominent seam. This was done at the instruction of the ECB Cricket Committee, conscious of the balance between bat and ball on County pitches, especially during the early and latter parts of the season.

The 2017-18 specification Dukes ball was used during the second-half of the 2018-19 JLT Sheffield Shield.
 
Who cares?
The only Ashes series I followed was the 2005 one, and even then I hardly caught 10% of the action. Nobody apart from those 2 countries gives a damn. World Cup is the only proper cricket this summer for most cricket countries.
 
Australia's bowlers are "licking their lips" at the prospect of using a more bowler-friendly ball after the England board requested Dukes produce a different batch for the Ashes.

The England and Wales Cricket Board have confirmed they are reverting to the specification used for their past two Test seasons, which have a more prominent seam than the balls seen at the start of this year's County Championship.

A prouder seam helps the quicks by facilitating sideways movement off the pitch, which has brought many an Australian batting line-up unstuck since their last series win in England in 2001.

While the ECB say the change is to ensure a fairer contest between bat and ball, they readily admit the move will enhance star seamer James Anderson's chances of continuing his success at home against Australia.

It does not bode well for Australia's batting line-up, which has been tormented by Anderson and Stuart Broad over the past decade in England's seam-friendly conditions – most notably four years ago when they were skittled for 60 at Trent Bridge.

Broad, Anderson and England captain Joe Root were all consulted over the change. The ECB have ordered between 500-600 balls at a total cost of about $67,000. It will be money well spent if it can help engineer Australian batting collapses and lead to a handover of the urn.

However, in Pat Cummins, Josh Hazlewood, Mitchell Starc and perhaps James Pattinson, the Australians are quietly confident they have the pace artillery for the move to backfire on the English.

Australia's most successful finger-spinner, Nathan Lyon, believes a more exposed seam could also help him.

I know our quicks will be licking their lips at it. Should be a good challenge for them.

Nathan Lyon
"I'm pretty excited, pretty happy they've got the seam there. Hopefully I can use it for my benefit," Lyon said in an appearance for Kayo, who are streaming every game of the World Cup.

"I know our quicks will be licking their lips at it. Should be a good challenge for them.

"To be honest, that's part of the challenge of playing international cricket, part of the challenge of playing in England facing those conditions and with their ball.

"I think it's going to be one helluva series, I'm that excited. It's a great opportunity for the Australian cricket side to retain the Ashes."

Glenn Maxwell, who recently finished a stint with county side Lancashire and spent time facing Anderson in the nets, said Australia's expected pace attack could also benefit from the change.

"We have a pretty good attack ourselves," he said.

The ECB had changed the ball used for this year's county competition what batting great Alastair Cook described last season as one of the most difficult for batting he could remember.

But after assessing the results from the start of the 2019 season, the ECB was worried the results had tilted too far in favour of the batsmen. Ten of 15 matches this year have produced a score above 400 compared to only four of 14 after the same number of rounds in 2018.

The ECB say the Ashes decision was not made to maximise home ground advantage but to produce a more competitive contest.

"People will say that, but that's why we want to be on the front foot. We didn't want to appear as though we were doing this underhandedly," the ECB's managing director of men's cricket, Ashley Giles, said.

"This is not about having two-day games.

"This is honestly about having a fair contest. My concern was this [current] ball would make it too batting-friendly on good Test wickets in the middle of the summer. That was the primary reason."

Giles acknowledged the move could also help Australia.

"The Aussies are quite handy themselves," Giles said.

"There are elements of risk to it because we are choosing to go with this ball and they have a formidable bowling attack. Clearly, Jimmy Anderson is one of our best weapons, so we want to bring him into the game. We just want to be up front and honest."

Maxwell said it was not so much swing that could be an issue for batsmen but rather when the ball seamed off the pitch.

"If it swings more, it doesn't really affect things too much. You just and play miss. It's more when the ball seams off the wicket or if it wobbles," he said.

"I think the way the Aussie Duke has played, or the West Indies Duke that we have played with in Australia, hasn't swung so far. Guys were able to line it up and get a good read of it. It swung conventionally most of the time. It didn't really reverse."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cri...regret-ashes-ball-change-20190509-p51lnn.html
 
I can’t wait!

Just want the World Cup to pass quickly to get on to The Ashes!

I looked at the World Cup schedule today. Basically four weeks of nothing followed by one important week.
 
Pity that the greatest world cup ever is going to precede this bilateral between two mediocre test sides. This is not good for test cricket! Younger generations would think test cricket is useless ! Need teams like India and NZ go uphold test cricket!
 
Pity after the exciting PSL, IPL and mega WC there is no real cricket for the next few months. We have a series in July-September between the team that humiliated England and the one that won in Australia but Caribbean timings don't agree with my health. I am going to be extra bored after the World Cup like 99% other PPers :moyo.
 
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I can’t wait!

Just want the World Cup to pass quickly to get on to The Ashes!

I looked at the World Cup schedule today. Basically four weeks of nothing followed by one important week.

funny how you make this thread then bump it up again and again to let everyone know that to you ashes means more than the world cup.


we get it, you dont watch the world cup, but we do.
 
funny how you make this thread then bump it up again and again to let everyone know that to you ashes means more than the world cup.


we get it, you dont watch the world cup, but we do.
I’m actually going to Australia v South Africa and both semi-finals.

Last time I attended the Australia v India semi, the Final, Australia v NZ at Auckland and SA v Sri Lanka.

So I pay to attend a lot of World Cup matches. I just prefer The Ashes!
 
Bairstow admitted that he would prefer to win the World Cup over the Ashes. This signals a change in attitude in English cricket - pretty much all the Test players who are in the World Cup squad would probably say the same.

This summer is all about the World Cup for England. Ashes will come and go, but this is their golden chance of lifting their maiden World Cup and that too on home soil.
 
Who here remembers the winners of each and every ashes without using google? Even the casual cricket fans will be able to tell you which teams won how many world cups even if they were not born during that time.

Winning a world cup is what matters most to the majority of players and fans around the world , that is why even the great Sachin Tendulkar's dream was in winning the world cup, that is why Pakistan fans even now remember the one they won in 1992 and not the test series they won Vs WI/India/Aus or whoever in the past because nothing could match the euphoria of winning a world cup I am sure. That is why you will see a guy like AB De Villiers crying after losing a world cup semi but you won't see him crying after losing a test match series .

It is the pinnacle of the sport regardless of what some minority fans think and regardless of how many overs are there in a game.
 
I’m actually going to Australia v South Africa and both semi-finals.

Last time I attended the Australia v India semi, the Final, Australia v NZ at Auckland and SA v Sri Lanka.

So I pay to attend a lot of World Cup matches. I just prefer The Ashes!

Actually most of the time you reply it feels like you are trolling or in ither cases a very genuine dislike for limited overs cricket.
Since you are going to see the world cup, who according to you are the favourites?
 
Bairstow admitted that he would prefer to win the World Cup over the Ashes. This signals a change in attitude in English cricket - pretty much all the Test players who are in the World Cup squad would probably say the same.

This summer is all about the World Cup for England. Ashes will come and go, but this is their golden chance of lifting their maiden World Cup and that too on home soil.

This is in direct contrast to what someone like Kohli says about test cricket being the premier format. I think BCCI care more about test cricket than the ECB do. Boards that care about test cricket don't end up losing test series in the Caribbean in a humiliating fashion the way England did.
 
Pity after the exciting PSL, IPL and mega WC there is no real cricket for the next few months. We have a series in July-September between the team that humiliated England and the one that won in Australia but Caribbean timings don't agree with my health. I am going to be extra bored after the World Cup like 99% other PPers :moyo.

Absolutely . After the World Cup, real cricket begins when SA tour India. Fake test cricket fans can then tune in to see how the real number 1 test team plays modern 21st century test cricket. Not some half-hearted bunch of whingers who claim to play test cricket and get destroyed by Roston friggin Chase. We all know that the likes of buttler, bairstow and root prefer IPL whether their egos would admit or not. :srini
 
England’s top order batting is so bad that I back Australia to retain the Ashes.

Yet a powerful England attack is forming so it will be close. I hope to see Wood and Archer in tandem.
 
Who here remembers the winners of each and every ashes without using google?

Me. I can remember the scorelines since the late seventies too.

I have no idea who won which World Cup after 1992 though. As soon as England get knocked out I stop watching.
 
Me. I can remember the scorelines since the late seventies too.

I have no idea who won which World Cup after 1992 though. As soon as England get knocked out I stop watching.

You are an exception.
I want to see a poll, the results might turn into 3/4 knowing vs 100 not knowing because outside the minority in England, Australia and Pakpassion people don't care much about the Ashes , the one sided 0-5 whitewashes in Australia doesn't help either
 
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Australian Test captain Tim Paine expects slighted paceman Josh Hazlewood to use his World Cup absence as motivation for the upcoming Ashes series.

Despite being a key member of the Australian team that won the 2015 World Cup, Hazlewood was twice overlooked for the 2019 tournament; he was left out of the initial 15-man squad in April before selectors chose to replace the injured Jhye Richardson with Kane Richardson, determining that Hazlewood had not recovered sufficiently from a back injury.

Paine said he hasn’t spoken to the fast bowler in recent weeks, adding Australia’s Test side might be the main beneficiary of the selection call when the Ashes get underway at Edgbaston on August 1.

"I must admit when I've seen him speak about missing out, I think he is a bit dirty," Paine said at Kayo's Cricket World Cup launch in Melbourne.

"And that's not a bad thing for me as a captain and us as a Test side, because we know how good he is when he's at his best.

"I've seen some footage and some numbers on his fitness in the last three or four weeks and I think he's in the best condition he's ever been in.

"He's going to be cherry ripe come the first Ashes Test, which is really exciting."

Hazlewood, a veteran of 44 Tests, admits he failed to meet expectations during England's 3-2 home Ashes series triumph in 2015, but Paine expected a much better showing from the New South Welshman this time around.

"He was the one who brought it up and said he didn't handle it well and I'm sure he's learnt a hell of a lot," Paine said.

"He's a hell of a bowler and he's now had four more years of international cricket.

"I'm sure he knows exactly what he needs to fix to improve how he went in the last (away) Ashes."

Paine was also excited by the prospect of adding James Pattinson to his pace arsenal after the tearaway Victorian ended the Australian domestic summer with a bang, finally enjoying a change of luck on the injury front.

"I'm not a religious man but I have said a few prayers when I've gone to bed at night the last couple of months to make sure he's fit," Paine said with a smile.

"He can clearly add a lot to our Test match team.

"The England guys have seen him bowl in county cricket in the last couple of years and at times he's been quite devastating. I think that'll be in the back of their minds.

"At times during this Ashes series, if he's fully fit, he's going to be a real weapon."

Tim Paine was speaking at Kayo's Cricket World Cup launch in Melbourne. Kayo will have every match from the ICC Cricket World Cup 2019 LIVE. Sign up for a 14-day free trial here

Qantas Ashes Tour of the UK 2019

Tour match: Australia v Australia A, Hampshire, July 23-26

First Test: August 1-5 at Edgbaston, Birmingham

Tour match: Australia v Worcestershire, August 7-9

Second Test: August 14-18 at Lord's, London

Third Test: August 22-26 at Headingley, Leeds

Tour match: Australia v Derbyshire, August 29-31

Fourth Test: September 4-8 at Old Trafford, Manchester

Fifth Test: September 12-16 at The Oval, London

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/tim...alia-england-ashes-world-cup-squad/2019-05-30
 
Watched bit of the 1st world cup game. The quality of cricket is atrocious.

I can;t wait for this to be over and see real cricket during Ashes between's world's 4th and 5th best test teams :)
 
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OP is forgetting about a certain, historic, Test match that precedes the Ashes......
 
Me. I can remember the scorelines since the late seventies too.

I have no idea who won which World Cup after 1992 though. As soon as England get knocked out I stop watching.

Funny.

Its reverse for me though.

2005 was the last time I saw the Ashes when a reverse swinging Flintoff got the better of Australia and Simon Jones was at his best.

After that I cant recall any Ashes result.
 
Watched bit of the 1st world cup game. The quality of cricket is atrocious.

I can;t wait for this to be over and see real cricket during Ashes between's world's 4th and 5th best test teams :)
I know you're joking, but I completely agree.

Watching a clown like Jason Roy attack the ball with hard hands, when there is no grass on the pitch, the ball has no seam, the bowlers get called "wide" if they don't deliver the ball into the slot and the bats are gigantic is just a stupid, rubbish sport.

It's like making "seal clubbing" into a sport.

I'm going to two semi-finals plus Australia v South Africa, but I know it will just be this slog-a-thon rubbish.

Whereas I am genuinely thrilled by the idea of watching an attack of Starc-Hazlewood-Pattinson-Cummins-Lyon.

Thrilled!
 
England v India would have to be the bigger than the ashes now, probably India v Australia too.

I think the ashes has lost its importance.
 
I know you're joking, but I completely agree.

Watching a clown like Jason Roy attack the ball with hard hands, when there is no grass on the pitch, the ball has no seam, the bowlers get called "wide" if they don't deliver the ball into the slot and the bats are gigantic is just a stupid, rubbish sport.

It's like making "seal clubbing" into a sport.

I'm going to two semi-finals plus Australia v South Africa, but I know it will just be this slog-a-thon rubbish.

Whereas I am genuinely thrilled by the idea of watching an attack of Starc-Hazlewood-Pattinson-Cummins-Lyon.

Thrilled!
It's like making "seal clubbing" into a sport.

lol. Brutal(both seal clubbing and your put down of odi cricket)!
 
England v India would have to be the bigger than the ashes now, probably India v Australia too.

I think the ashes has lost its importance.
Ashes is still the biggest cricket event in the uk. May change if england win the wc.
 
Ashes is still the biggest cricket event in the uk. May change if england win the wc.

England vs india crowds and tv audience is made up of a lot of indian ex pats and 2nd generation brit indians.
The ashes has a bigger draw for englishborn/ english heritage cricket fans.
 
I know you're joking, but I completely agree.

Watching a clown like Jason Roy attack the ball with hard hands, when there is no grass on the pitch, the ball has no seam, the bowlers get called "wide" if they don't deliver the ball into the slot and the bats are gigantic is just a stupid, rubbish sport.

It's like making "seal clubbing" into a sport.

I'm going to two semi-finals plus Australia v South Africa, but I know it will just be this slog-a-thon rubbish.

Whereas I am genuinely thrilled by the idea of watching an attack of Starc-Hazlewood-Pattinson-Cummins-Lyon.

Thrilled!

that attack was "seal clubbed" by pant/jadeja a few months ago.
 
I know you're joking, but I completely agree.

Watching a clown like Jason Roy attack the ball with hard hands, when there is no grass on the pitch, the ball has no seam, the bowlers get called "wide" if they don't deliver the ball into the slot and the bats are gigantic is just a stupid, rubbish sport.

It's like making "seal clubbing" into a sport.

I'm going to two semi-finals plus Australia v South Africa, but I know it will just be this slog-a-thon rubbish.

Whereas I am genuinely thrilled by the idea of watching an attack of Starc-Hazlewood-Pattinson-Cummins-Lyon.

Thrilled!


I wasn't joking bro.

Test cricket is real cricket.
 
England v India would have to be the bigger than the ashes now, probably India v Australia too.

I think the ashes has lost its importance.

Its all about the state of two teams at the time.
 
I m not into Football at all, but I do love watching a WC tournament or a UEFA Final. It's the spectacle that I enjoy. With Cricket, I love Tests, and likewise enjoy the WC tournaments, but LoI bilaterals and T20s are least of my favourites. Despise T20 franchise cricket altogether.

The reason why people remember WCs more than Tests is simple; there are less WC to remember!

And anyone who says Tests are inferior, may I remind you, next time you prop up a player, it's the Test stats that are mentioned first.

Looking forward to the Ashes!
 
Agreed we Indians don't care about world cups so we didn't care about it and took it casually. :wa
 
Not long now until the main cricketing event of 2019.

Listening to the crowd today, it feels like the Ashes has already started.

The Lords crowd sounds more like funeral then a cricket match, that too a World Cup Final.
 
Just to highlight how much bigger this is than the World Cup, the ground has been packed since the toss.

Three weeks ago I attended the World Cup semi-Final between the same two countries at the same ground. And I took this picture about 45 minutes into the match......

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Just to highlight how much bigger this is than the World Cup, the ground has been packed since the toss.

Three weeks ago I attended the World Cup semi-Final between the same two countries at the same ground. And I took this picture about 45 minutes into the match......

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So you will completely ignore the fact that most of the tickets went to indians who thought it would be ind v eng. I suppose doesn't fit the agenda you are pushing.
 
So you will completely ignore the fact that most of the tickets went to indians who thought it would be ind v eng. I suppose doesn't fit the agenda you are pushing.
It’s just a fact.

Same teams, same ground, only three weeks apart.

But the Test is the one which has a packed ground, and a level of noise and intensity that no ODI in England can match.
 
It’s just a fact.

Same teams, same ground, only three weeks apart.

But the Test is the one which has a packed ground, and a level of noise and intensity that no ODI in England can match.

Not even the final of the WC.
 
It’s just a fact.

Same teams, same ground, only three weeks apart.

But the Test is the one which has a packed ground, and a level of noise and intensity that no ODI in England can match.

What i stated was also a fact, which you ignored. Do you have attendance record for eng v aus groupstage game?
 
What i stated was also a fact, which you ignored. Do you have attendance record for eng v aus groupstage game?

I think everyone knows why the crowd is different, Juniads takes a bit longer to grasp these things.
 
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Packed crowds!
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] theory is well and truly in the bin. Australia winning the ashes with 4 specialist bowlers and no all rounder. The team with all this batting depth and bowling options look average.
 
England won the World Cup, which they never had won. After that, they partied, enjoyed and the hangover kept on going. Ashes came just too soon I believe.

I am sure they would take a WC win over an Ashes home win. However, what will hurt them is just few days after WC win, they are now losing an Ashes at home, which they never lost in this 18 years timespan.

Wrong time for Ashes I would say. They chose World Cup over Ashes. I or some other posters are not setting any priority here.Its the England team themselves who prioritized a WC win over an Ashes win.
 
I'm English, and much as I like Cummins, Pattinson and Paine, I have to admit this in the aftermath of 67 all out.

Yes, my country just won the World Cup. And that is not even 10% as important as this Ashes humiliation.

Just look at what is happening. Forget about people like Roy who are not real Test players.

Joe Root cruised through the World Cup, looking cool and unflustered.

Now we find ourselves in The Ashes - the Number 4 ranked team against the Number 5 - and suddenly the pressure and intensity has made both captains - and David Warner - collapse in a heap under the pressure.

I have never liked how Trevor Bayliss considers white ball cricket to be the equal of red ball cricket, especially how he considered a World Cup to be a desirable alternative to The Ashes.

It's just not. I couldn't care less about the World Cup (and I've attended 8 matches in the last 2 World Cups).

The Ashes is all that counts. And losing The Ashes hurts far more than winning the World Cup pleased me.
 
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