100th Test for Bangladesh coming up ... What hopes for the future?

[MenInG]

Only one victory against England in Oct 2016 to show for their 99 Tests so far.

Is there a real improvement in the making or will Bangladesh struggle to win again?

 

[Markhor]

You got to start off making your home form strong like Bangladesh have done in ODIs. I don't expect Bangladesh to be winning many Tests outside Asia in the next 5 years but it would be progress if they can start winning some home Test series.

For that to happen, Bangladesh need to be able to take 20 wickets in a Test consistently and not just on spin friendly pitches. On flat pitches their attack is being blunted as we've seen in Hyderabad and Galle. The spinner they have in Mehedi Hasan Miraz is still young and developing his control.

Your Test pacers have also got to have some FC experience behind them. You can't pick pacers with such little FC exposure in Tests on the back of their LOI performances.

Anyway, congratulations to them on their 100th Test. I hope they make real progress in Test cricket (obviously apart from when Pakistan tour them in the summer) as we need more strong Test nations.

 

[Buffet]

They won one test against big team so far. They need to win 8-10 tests at home against big team in the next 10 years. That should be their goal. Winning away will be bonus.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

The future is bright for them.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

skill wise they arent that bad.
they have problems mentally.

expecting good things from them. Their future is bright.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Their players still have rubbish mentality but skillwise they're catching up fast. Might be a competent side in 5 years

 

[Gabbar Singh]

They are improving, albeit very slowly.

 

[RehanG]

they have beaten just 1 big team in those 100 tests.. i think there shold be a border line play 50 matches and if u dont win 5% of it take ithe test status back..

btw test status should be given to Afghanistan and Ireland. instead of Bangaldesh

 

[Major]

Had this thread been made 5 years back, i would had easily said that this team has no future and are a complete waste and should play no more test games.

However, after the world cup 2011, this team has shown much progress. The team has introduced talented batsmen, good spinners, and even good pace bowlers. These players were introduced with very little domestic experience, thus it tells you they were selected based on talent, and with this talent they have won many games at home. They have now become a very dominant side at home, because of which ACC allows them to have the Asia Cup be held in their country as it makes the whole tournament a competitive one.

Many people often complain that Bangladesh is a home side bully, but we gotta understand that minnows are allowed to be a home side bully. To actually improve in something you need to become the tiger of your own mohalla first. Once you become the tiger of your own mohalla, then you go on taking over other peoples mohallah.

The team is improving in the limited side, and i agree with [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] that once this team's players started playing more domestic cricket, then they would also be ready for he longer format.

If you look at their test performance, result wise it hasnt been that bad. In the past they would struggle to score 200+ runs or even take 10 wickets, but this team is gradually improving.

Also if anyone says that this team should be replaced by another test member, it would also take Afghanistan and Ireland quite an amount of time to start actually winning test aswell. Afghanistan are yet to find 6 good batsmen who know how to block a ball instead of going all guns blazing for six, and Ireland aswell needs players who could stay at the wicket. And this takes time.

Bangladesh's next 25 test matches won't be bringing them that many wins either, but for the next 25 test matches, teams will start taking the Tigers more seriously as Bangladesh Cricket has improved alot in the last 5 years.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Congrats and I hope they pull off a win in their 100th test.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Had this thread been made 5 years back, i would had easily said that this team has no future and are a complete waste and should play no more test games.

However, after the world cup 2011, this team has shown much progress. The team has introduced talented batsmen, good spinners, and even good pace bowlers. These players were introduced with very little domestic experience, thus it tells you they were selected based on talent, and with this talent they have won many games at home. They have now become a very dominant side at home, because of which ACC allows them to have the Asia Cup be held in their country as it makes the whole tournament a competitive one.

Many people often complain that Bangladesh is a home side bully, but we gotta understand that minnows are allowed to be a home side bully. To actually improve in something you need to become the tiger of your own mohalla first. Once you become the tiger of your own mohalla, then you go on taking over other peoples mohallah.

The team is improving in the limited side, and i agree with [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] that once this team's players started playing more domestic cricket, then they would also be ready for he longer format.

If you look at their test performance, result wise it hasnt been that bad. In the past they would struggle to score 200+ runs or even take 10 wickets, but this team is gradually improving.

Also if anyone says that this team should be replaced by another test member, it would also take Afghanistan and Ireland quite an amount of time to start actually winning test aswell. Afghanistan are yet to find 6 good batsmen who know how to block a ball instead of going all guns blazing for six, and Ireland aswell needs players who could stay at the wicket. And this takes time.

Bangladesh's next 25 test matches won't be bringing them that many wins either, but for the next 25 test matches, teams will start taking the Tigers more seriously as Bangladesh Cricket has improved alot in the last 5 years.

Very reasonable summary here from Major bhai and a few others above.

I feel confident moving forward. We just have to get over the mental slump we're in and we'll be a decent side. The 9 team Test league will be competitive...the top 4-5 teams and the bottom 4-5 teams will really have intense battles and we might even see a lot of tough contests between teams from the bottom half vs top half.

 

[Zeshan547]

They may improve in skill but mentally don't see then coming over their minnow mentality atleast for next decade against big boys specially away from home in all formats and in tests even at home. Won't break in to top 5 in next decade in Test and ODIs for sure.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

100th test facts of all test countries

Country------------vs---------------Captain--------------Year----------Result-----------------

1.England______Australia______Archie McLaren____1909_______Defeated by 126 runs
2.Australia_____South Africa____Sydney Gregory___1912_______Won by innings and 88 runs
3.South Africa___England_______Dudley nourse____1949_______Defeated by 3 wickets
4.West Indies___Australia______Gary sobers_______1965_______Won by 179 runs
5.India________England_______Pataudi khan______1967_______Defeated by 132 runs
6.New Zealand __West Indies___Bevan Congdon____1972_______Drawn
7.Pakistan______Australia______Mushtaq Md.______1979_______Won by 71 runs
8.Sri Lanka _____Pakistan______Sanath Jayasuriya__2000_______Defeated by 5 wickets
9.Zimbabwe_____Sri Lanka_____Graem Cremer_____2016_______Defeated by 225 runs
10. Bangladesh___Sri Lanka ____Mushfiqur Rahim___2017_______ ??????????

 

[Executioner]

It can only go upwards from here. Our domestic cricket is good and age level has some decent talents. Talents who are very much determined and passionate.

 

[the Great Khan]

It can only go upwards from here. Our domestic cricket is good and age level has some decent talents. Talents who are very much determined and passionate.

whats the current structure like? a few years ago your players were not playing enough FC four day cricket. Has that changed? Been impressed with their fighting qualities and this should improve over time! the key is to become hard to beat, then the wins will come.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

whats the current structure like? a few years ago your players were not playing enough FC four day cricket. Has that changed? Been impressed with their fighting qualities and this should improve over time! the key is to become hard to beat, then the wins will come.

It has change a lot. 2fc tournaments. One is 8 teams and other is 4 teams tournament. The fact is our future players who will come to the test team will have at least 50-100 fc matches experience in their belt. In the past our test players didn't have that experiences when they debuted. Still now ,our current test players have little fc experiences. That's why they struggle a lot. In the future it won't happen. Whoever will debut he will have lot of fc experience. Now a days our fc is not picnic like it was 6-8 years ago. It is now very competitive. And our one fc tournament is now franchise based tournament for the last 3-4 years!! There is also age level tournaments and school tournaments are also happening more regular than before.Our list A tournament are very popular now and very professional unlike 5-6 years ago. Our 100 fc players are directly under payment of BCB. A professionalism is building among fc players. Facilities are getting better and better for every age level teams.

For all these reasons our team will only go upward from now.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

whats the current structure like? a few years ago your players were not playing enough FC four day cricket. Has that changed? Been impressed with their fighting qualities and this should improve over time! the key is to become hard to beat, then the wins will come.

The team used to be full of teenage debutants up till around 2007-2008. Ashraful, Alok, Aftab all debuted as teens. Not to mention bowlers like Mortaza, Shahadat, Talha, Nazmul, Enamul Jr. Out of all those only Ashraful, Mortaza, and Shahadat made any impact at all, and none of them for long - though Mortaza would have had he been fit enough.

Even Tamim, Mushfiq, and Shakib debuted as teens.

But recently, guys like Mominul, Taskin (Tests), Sabbir, Mosaddek, Soumya, etc have been around 21-22 when debuting which means they have had a lot more exposure to FC cricket before playing their first Test.

 

[the Great Khan]

thanks guys for the input with regards to bangladesh cricket. It seems you guys have a good road map and I would wait till a few years to see how things work in future.

Whata re the pitches like and the average scores in your premier FC 4 day tournament? Are your pitches flatter batting pitches or the weird ones we have in india and Pakistan?

 

[Shutdown Corner]

thanks guys for the input with regards to bangladesh cricket. It seems you guys have a good road map and I would wait till a few years to see how things work in future.

Whata re the pitches like and the average scores in your premier FC 4 day tournament? Are your pitches flatter batting pitches or the weird ones we have in india and Pakistan?

They are probably the usual low and slow wicket that doesn't turn except maybe day 4. Absolutely zero assistance for seam bowlers either off the pitch or through the air. That would be my guess as I have never seen a domestic match.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Last 5 year BD is showing real signs of progress. They produced some exciting players like Mehdi Hasan Mirah and Mustafizur. There is Mosadek as well. Somya and Shabbir are also better then what they used to play 10 years ago. I think they could become real force next 5 years if they continue producing quality players.

 

[Executioner]

I must say people are a lot more optimistic about Bangladesh team these days even though we aren't winning too much.

While temperament isn't there, Bangladesh skillwise is as good as most teams in the world(okay excluding power hitting). That is a big plus for us. It's temperament which we wholeheartedly lack. Even our seniors have temparmental problem. But next gen of players will be more temparmentaly strong because of increased competitiveness.

Temperament develops at a young age. Shakib Tamim Mushy Riad had an easy route to Bangladesh team and barely got dropped while being deemed as best in the team. Only Shakib made a big mark and went on to become the world's number one all-rounder. Hence we see that seniors are struggling

 

[MenInG]

What a fantastic display of batting by BD batsmen. I feel history being made in the 100th game....

 

[Gabbar Singh]

A great test match for Bangladesh.

 

[MenInG]

Amazing and well done to Bangladesh

 

[Executioner]

Thanks to the well wishers of our team.

Bangladesh has come here thanks to the belief officials from different boards put on our struggling side.

 

[GenericBrand]

btw test status should be given to Afghanistan and Ireland. instead of Bangaldesh

You must be one of those CI posters who post the same lines for the past 10 years.

 

[Mamoon]

Bangladesh will surpass Pakistan and Sri Lanka in all formats within 5 years. India of course will remain kings of Asia.

 

[SunRay]

Bangla couldn't have asked for a better reasult in their 100th test

 

[Hamza_]

Wow. Well done to Bangladesh. Solid performance by Shakib, Really coming into his own in International Cricket.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Well done Bangladesh, to win a test match away to SL is no mean feat.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Bangladesh will surpass Pakistan and Sri Lanka in all formats within 5 years. India of course will remain kings of Asia.

We will eventually get into the 5-7 rank. Whether we can be better than that will depend on how good our players are and how hard they are willing to work. For example, Shakib-Mushfiq-Tamim have been the heart of our team since their debuts, but they were just decent cricketers until 2015. Guys who average 30-35 and are content with that. They are pushing on now and I hope all 3 can end their careers with averages of 40.

Mustafiz will be a great bowler because of cerebral approach...he out-thinks batsmen. He doesn't need to bowl 150 k or produce banana swing. He won't get "figured out" as everyone keeps repeating here because there is nothing about an off-cutter that isn't already known. Miraz will need to continue to work on his game, especially to cut the boundary balls out of his distribution. But I predict him to be another world class all-rounder.

The big question will be on Taskin. Will he just be another promising quick who fails to deliver the goods or can he become a bowler who can average low 30s (and hopefully under 30)? That remains to be seen and will go a long way to determining how far we will go.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Thanks' to all my fellow ppers.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Well done Bangladesh, to win a test match away to SL is no mean feat.

Remembering,they just beated Australia 3-0.

 

[Hasan2K8]

Onwards and upwards in test. InshAllah.

This test win in Sri Lanka will give them so much boost, beliefs, confidence going forward into future test matches and series.

Thanks to SL cricket board for hosting BD and doing their part whatever was needed to organise for the 100th test, giving a full series unlike some. SL has been one team that has played BD, probably the most in test. Long may BD-SL friendship continue.