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15 years and counting .... Your view on Pakistan's World Cup drought

Pakistan knockout heartbreaks:

1. 2021 T20 WC SF
2. 2007 T20 WC Final
3. 2011 WC SF
4. 2010 T20 WC SF

2019 WC was one of our best performances at a WC and we were peaking at the right time. I would have really liked to see us get to the semi-finals. If only we hadn't gotten annihilated by West Indies of all teams, in the first match. We literally spent the entire tournament catching up with the NRR. And still couldn't do it. Probably were a bit unlucky too with the match against Sri Lanka getting washed out.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Pakistan knockout heartbreaks:

1. 2021 T20 WC SF
2. 2007 T20 WC Final
3. 2011 WC SF
4. 2010 T20 WC SF

2019 WC was one of our best performances at a WC and we were peaking at the right time. I would have really liked to see us get to the semi-finals. If only we hadn't gotten annihilated by West Indies of all teams, in the first match. We literally spent the entire tournament catching up with the NRR. And still couldn't do it. Probably were a bit unlucky too with the match against Sri Lanka getting washed out.
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I had to actually look through this. So many teams shared points due to matches being abandoned.
Are you assuming NZ would have lost to India and Pakistan beaten Sri Lanka? Too many hypotheticals.
Pakistan was already on the ropes with 3 losses in first 5 games and just 1 win.
As for NRR, No body stopped Babar Azam from stat padding to a 100 against NZ with a SR in 70s.
Pakistan barely survived against Afghanistan.

At the end you needed the impossible against Bangladesh, it was already done and dusted.
The qualification requirement for Pakistan at the end was insane.
If Pakistan score 350, they must win by 311 runs. If Pakistan score 400, they must win by 316 runs. If Pakistan score 450, they must win by 321 runs.
 
Aang_The_last_airbender said:
I had to actually look through this. So many teams shared points due to matches being abandoned.
Are you assuming NZ would have lost to India and Pakistan beaten Sri Lanka? Too many hypotheticals.
Pakistan was already on the ropes with 3 losses in first 5 games and just 1 win.
As for NRR, No body stopped Babar Azam from stat padding to a 100 against NZ with a SR in 70s.
Pakistan barely survived against Afghanistan.

At the end you needed the impossible against Bangladesh, it was already done and dusted.
The qualification requirement for Pakistan at the end was insane.
If Pakistan score 350, they must win by 311 runs. If Pakistan score 400, they must win by 316 runs. If Pakistan score 450, they must win by 321 runs.
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Umm no. I'm saying that if we had beaten West Indies or Sri Lanka, and not lost to the other by a big margin, we would have gone through to the semi-finals. I'm not creating a hypothetical reality where rain does not exist lol.

I guess you didn't see the New Zealand match. Because Babar played one of the finest knocks by a Pakistan batter at a WC on a very tricky surface in Edgbaston. Against the same attack mind you, that later ran through India's top-order in the semi-final.

Pakistan barely survived against Afghanistan.

And India didn't?
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Pakistan knockout heartbreaks:

1. 2021 T20 WC SF
2. 2007 T20 WC Final
3. 2011 WC SF
4. 2010 T20 WC SF

2019 WC was one of our best performances at a WC and we were peaking at the right time. I would have really liked to see us get to the semi-finals. If only we hadn't gotten annihilated by West Indies of all teams, in the first match. We literally spent the entire tournament catching up with the NRR. And still couldn't do it. Probably were a bit unlucky too with the match against Sri Lanka getting washed out.
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I do not rate our performance in 2019 World Cup.
It was a very insipid display in the beginning and we lost badly to WI IND AUS and started playing well when pressure to qualify was no longer there.
 
Ahmed216 said:
I do not rate our performance in 2019 World Cup.
It was a very insipid display in the beginning and we lost badly to WI IND AUS and started playing well when pressure to qualify was no longer there.
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It was probably Pakistan's best WC performance in this century. Even in 2011, the only major teams we beat to get to the semis were Sri Lanka and Australia.

The display against West Indies was insipid and ended up costing a semifinal spot. But the results against India and Australia were hardly surprising.
 
From ICC drought to WC drought.

India celebrations way overboard. Celebrating like they've won the ODI WC. Anyone who tells you India is not obsessed with cricket is not Indian.

Clearly the celebrations planned for 2023 are being executed in 2024! 🤣🤣
 
BouncerGuy said:
This drought will worsen if things don't change in next few months. If pcb is still holding on to the problems, it will become a nightmare for Pakistan.

Pakistan is not winning anything until there is a team instead of few bunch of individuals trying to keep their spot safe in the team.
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What drought? India with all the money and talent can only muster 1 ICC trophy a decade. Pakistan just need to win an ICC trophy this decade for the same.

Indian fans are just pigeon holing now, relieved their celebrations of 2023 were not in vain, because come next year it will be about the CT and WTC trophies.
 
No chance for pakistan in test & odis, they were good in T20s but chances of winning a T20 world cup for pakistan is 1 time in the next 10 years.
 
Technics 1210 said:
What drought? India with all the money and talent can only muster 1 ICC trophy a decade. Pakistan just need to win an ICC trophy this decade for the same.

Indian fans are just pigeon holing now, relieved their celebrations of 2023 were not in vain, because come next year it will be about the CT and WTC trophies.
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ICC Trophy -

India - 6
Pakistan - 3

India has won icc test mace uncountable times.

Asia cup - india won eight times while Pakistan has only two .

ICC under-19 world cup

India - 5
Pakistan -2

:shh
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Agreed. I'm not saying it's easy. But PAK batters will struggle more on slow Asian wickets where you need to force the issue against spinners.

That requires real power and skill which they all lack

Babar is a touch player so he'll enjoy those Saffer pitches more.

No guarantee of anything but their batting might not struggle as much over there.
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Pakistan rarely does well in Asian conditions . After dominating SA in SA and AUS in AUS, they got destroyed in PAK and Dubai.

All their white ball success has been in SENA - CT and World T20 in England and World Cup in Australia/New Zealand

2027 would be a legit. opportunity to end this drought
 
Very difficult because bowling has always been their strong arsenal, their fast bowling consisting of Shaheen, haris, & nazeem looks average when compared to their predecessors, though spin bowling looks good, their batting is always average.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Pakistan rarely does well in Asian conditions . After dominating SA in SA and AUS in AUS, they got destroyed in PAK and Dubai.

All their white ball success has been in SENA - CT and World T20 in England and World Cup in Australia/New Zealand

2027 would be a legit. opportunity to end this drought
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Had some hope for pak cricket before but not anymore. They will struggle again and gloat over some bilateral wins against b or c teams. They will be trophy less for a long long time. Such timid weak team that plays unappetizing cricket
 
deltexas said:
Had some hope for pak cricket before but not anymore. They will struggle again and gloat over some bilateral wins against b or c teams. They will be trophy less for a long long time. Such timid weak team that plays unappetizing cricket
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And by the way , not say this in a happy way. No fun if a contest is one sided which Ind pak have been for a while except the odd ones here and there. Plus cricket is played by few countries- so want pak team playing good cricket.
 
TO be brutally honest they ain't winning a world cup for years the way their domestic structure is run. Their closest shot of winning an ICC ODI event was CT 2025 as it doesn't requier too many good days. Just a couple of good days. I think CT may be scrapped soon.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
It's been 15 years since Pakistan last won a World Cup/World T20.

Since then, Australia have won 2 World Cups and 1 World T20.

England have won 2 World T20's and a World Cup.

West Indies have won 2 World T20's.

India have won a World Cup and a World T20.

SL have won 1 World T20.

Do you see Pakistan winning a World Cup/World T20 in the foreseeable future and if so when ?
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We dont deserve to win due to lack of consistency in selection & due to heavy political interference
 
We will win the T20 WC in India next year. We just need Rizwan and Babar back in form - do some hard work in first class cricket if needed. Pakistan's fortunes have rested with those two in the last 5-6 years and it is no coincidence that our barren period has coincided with theirs.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
We will win the T20 WC in India next year. We just need Rizwan and Babar back in form - do some hard work in first class cricket if needed. Pakistan's fortunes have rested with those two in the last 5-6 years and it is no coincidence that our barren period has coincided with theirs.
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No Chance.

India is by far best T20 team in the world. You'll see The trailer in 2025 Asia cup

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
No Chance.

India is by far best T20 team in the world. You'll see The trailer in 2025 Asia cup

:kp
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Don't fly too high. You played well and won 2 ICC tournaments. It doesn't mean you are invincible. If we remove jokers like Agha who strike at 79 in T20I, we are more than capable of 152/0 repeat :inti
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Don't fly too high. You played well and won 2 ICC tournaments. It doesn't mean you are invincible. If we remove jokers like Agha who strike at 79 in T20I, we are more than capable of 152/0 repeat :inti
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You can choose a world T20 eleven still they will lose the series against This indian T20 Team at the anywhere in the World

:kp
 
Pakistan best chance is now, they removed the anchor and accumulators, the T20 team is filled with dashers and smashers we are likely to win Asia Cup and Wt20, can we do it undefeated remains to be seen
 
Kianig89 said:
@Rana will answer this , since he claims to be an expert in cricketing knowledge
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Wo kya answer dega .wo kud Tullebaaz player's ka fan hai like Asif Ali and Sharjeel Khan 🤡

Vase T20 main to Tullebaaz chal Jate hai but iske Tullebaaz to ultra pro Max hai

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
Wo kya answer dega .wo kud Tullebaaz player's ka fan hai like Asif Ali and Sharjeel Khan 🤡

Vase T20 main to Tullebaaz chal Jate hai but iske Tullebaaz to ultra pro Max hai

:kp
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The world is waiting for the answer. He should take all the time to dig up stats or other analogies.

Just remember Rizwan and Babar with SR in High 120s were failures.
 
Pakistan have been poor in ODI cricket for a long time. Only one WC semi this century.

T20 they had first mover advantage due to tape ball and local T20 leagues so did well in in the initial editions but now seem to have been left far behind.
 
Kianig89 said:
The world is waiting for the answer. He should take all the time to dig up stats or other analogies.

Just remember Rizwan and Babar with SR in High 120s were failures.
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Surely They are failure but if pakistan is making Salman Agha as an T20 captain than God save pakistan cricket .

Agha is good player but he didn't deserved a place in the T20 team. ODI and test formats are more suitable for him.

:kp
 
Pakistan' Road map to win next T20 WC

Salman Agha c, Usman Khan, Muhammad Haris , OBY the quarter has SR <127.

Let's hope they improve on it and not follow the steps of RizBar
 
Devadwal said:
Wo kya answer dega .wo kud Tullebaaz player's ka fan hai like Asif Ali and Sharjeel Khan 🤡

Vase T20 main to Tullebaaz chal Jate hai but iske Tullebaaz to ultra pro Max hai

:kp
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Still seething from yesterday? Where should I rub the tiger balm on you?
 
Rana said:
Still seething from yesterday? Where should I rub the tiger balm on you?
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You need it badly after a week of humiliation starting from 2nd March ( India vs NZ game).

I'm always give it back with facts so stop crying now .
:kp
 
Remember the useless filters Pak fans had to conveniently include the CT 17 win but not CT 13? :misbah

Well now let me do some cherry picking -

India has MORE ICC trophies in the last 9 months than Pakistan has in the last 15 years

India has the SAME number of ICC trophies in the last 9 months that Pakistan has in the last 32 years.

India has MORE ICC trophies in the last 15 years than Pakistan has EVER
 
jnaveen1980 said:
They have hacks and tuk tukers. NOthing in between. No proper stroke players. Hacks like usman can fail every other match. So they are trying to convert players with decent technique into dashers.
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But but according to @Rana he is best white ball player of pakistan just because he smashed pakistan bowlers in domestic cricket and PSL.

:kp
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Do you want support from BD fans now? LOL! I like Rizwan but he is not bigger than the country. No one is. I am aligned with Rana on matters important to the country.
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Absolutely not. I don't need any support from anyone but i just want My friend to know the reality. BTW @Bhaag Viru Bhaag is proudly Indian

For Bangladesh fans support lol 🤡

Rana se bhi koi panga ni tha but ye 2 March or 4 March ke match main kuch jyda bol gya indian team ke khilaaf to usko todi reality show karani thi

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
Absolutely not. I don't need any support from anyone but i just want My friend to know the reality. BTW @Bhaag Viru Bhaag is proudly Indian

For Bangladesh fans support lol 🤡

Rana se bhi koi panga ni tha but ye 2 March or 4 March ke match main kuch jyda bol gya indian team ke khilaaf to usko todi reality show karani thi

:kp
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What is "jyada"? You mean "ziada"! Merey bhaee, Rana has made more posts in support of India than BD fans like sweepshot and BVB. Btw last bilateral series, humnay ghuss key maara yaad hae? Ek murtaba Lahore aana...:)
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
What is "jyada"? You mean "ziada"! Merey bhaee, Rana has made more posts in support of India than BD fans like sweepshot and BVB. Btw last bilateral series, humnay ghuss key maara yaad hae? Ek murtaba Lahore aana...:)
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You're talking about 2012 lol. BTW toda piche or jaaoge ya history padna india Lahore Kab aya tha tab samajh jaoge ghuss ke marna kise Bolte hai
:kp
 
Devadwal said:
You're talking about 2012 lol. BTW toda piche or jaaoge ya history padna india Lahore Kab aya tha tab samajh jaoge ghuss ke marna kise Bolte hai
:kp
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O bhaee cricket kee gal ho rahe hae, cricket kee gal ker...werna humey bhee bolna ata hae ab dafa hou. Ek trophy kia jeet gaye kuch ziada hee chul machi hae. Btw "padna" kia hota hae? "parhna" hota hei bhaee.
 
Tbh under Mohsin Naqvi, Pakistan won't win anything too much toxicity and interference
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
O bhaee cricket kee gal ho rahe hae, cricket kee gal ker...werna humey bhee bolna ata hae ab dafa hou. Ek trophy kia jeet gaye kuch ziada hee chul machi hae. Btw "padna" kia hota hae? "parhna" hota hei bhaee.
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"ek"?

India has MORE ICC trophies in the last 9 months than Pakistan has in the last 15 years

India has the SAME number of ICC trophies in the last 9 months that Pakistan has in the last 32 years.

India has MORE ICC trophies in the last 15 years than Pakistan has EVER
 
saimayubera said:
"ek"?

India has MORE ICC trophies in the last 9 months than Pakistan has in the last 15 years

India has the SAME number of ICC trophies in the last 9 months that Pakistan has in the last 32 years.

India has MORE ICC trophies in the last 15 years than Pakistan has EVER
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Why are you comparing yourself to us? Compare yourselves to Australia? Itna chota mulk tumharee baja ke jata hae har dafa....
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Do you want support from BD fans now? LOL! I like Rizwan but he is not bigger than the country. No one is. I am aligned with Rana on matters important to the country.
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@Rana is a Brock Lesnar fan and you want to be his tag team partner just like Cody Rhodes. Get ready, because he is about to hit you with an F5. :inti

images
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
O bhaee cricket kee gal ho rahe hae, cricket kee gal ker...werna humey bhee bolna ata hae ab dafa hou. Ek trophy kia jeet gaye kuch ziada hee chul machi hae. Btw "padna" kia hota hae? "parhna" hota hei bhaee.
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I was talking about cricket lol. Remembered 2003-04 tour when India beat Pakistan in pakistan ( 3-2 in odi and 2-1 in test cricket)

Maybe you were not even born those day's

Urdu or hindi main pronunciation ka fark hota hai .

:kp
 
I must say I am glad that the drought is just 15 years, it easily could have been much much more..
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
12-9 overall head to head record in tests. Were you or @saimayubera born then?
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Yes pakistan was better team in 90s but gone are those days. Check the reality now.

Still we have beaten pakistan in 90s when it's matter the most - ICC world tournament

India is not playing bilateral series with Pakistan is best things to happen for Pakistan team and their delusion fans .

Ye sab record tut jate ab tak

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
Yes pakistan was better team in 90s but gone are those days. Check the reality now.

Still we have beaten pakistan in 90s when it's matter the most - ICC world tournament

India is not playing bilateral series with Pakistan is best things to happen for Pakistan team and their delusion fans .

Ye sab record tut jate ab tak

:kp
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Asian test championship yaad hae?
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
O bhaee cricket kee gal ho rahe hae, cricket kee gal ker...werna humey bhee bolna ata hae ab dafa hou. Ek trophy kia jeet gaye kuch ziada hee chul machi hae. Btw "padna" kia hota hae? "parhna" hota hei bhaee.
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Bas kar teri nautanki. Chul word north Indians use karte hai. Pakda gaya tu. :misbah :inti
 
Pakistan has to go back to 2009 model. 5 serviceable bowlers. Gul, Amir, Afridi, Saeed (someone with legal action), Razzaq. With part timers like malik. They had bowlers for death. bowlers for new ball. THere is no way Pakistan is going to be a batting force. They just have to focus on identifying match winning bowlers.
 
Devadwal said:
I Love cricket and that is what we are discussing in this thread not some other rubbish sports where two jokers fight with each other's.

:kp
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You love a brand of cricket that is loved by Gavaskar, not the type who know how to win it in the modern era.

Your heroes are Tuk tuk
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Why are you comparing yourself to us? Compare yourselves to Australia? Itna chota mulk tumharee baja ke jata hae har dafa....
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Don't hide behind Aus.

Woh chotta mulk tumhara bhi jyaada bajata hai.

India have pulled one over Aus (98 CT, 00 CT, 2007 T20 WC semi, 2011 WC qf, 2016 T20 WC, 2024 T20 WC, 2025 CT semi, BGT 18/19, BGT 20/21)

Have Pak EVER won an ICC KO against Aus? A test series?
 
Rana said:
You love a brand of cricket that is loved by Gavaskar, not the type who know how to win it in the modern era.

Your heroes are Tuk tuk
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No my hero's are modern great also like jaiswal etc not tullebaaz .

There is difference between tullebazz and proper player .

A tullebaaz always trying to slog on every balls regardless of situations and team demands.

But a proper batsman who can play fearless cricket but always Play according to situation and team plan

For example Maxwell was out by slogging consecutive ball against axar instead played sensible cricket after hitting a six when more than 12 overs were left.

If Maxwell had played till the end Australia would have scored around 300 then game was on !

:kp
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
O bhaee cricket kee gal ho rahe hae, cricket kee gal ker...werna humey bhee bolna ata hae ab dafa hou. Ek trophy kia jeet gaye kuch ziada hee chul machi hae. Btw "padna" kia hota hae? "parhna" hota hei bhaee.
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It's not just one trophy, it's two in the last 1 year. And as you mentioned in another thread, 23-1. Ab rona continue kar. :inti

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