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1990s Zimbabwe vs 2017 Bangladesh

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Bangladesh don't even have a chance. Zimbabwe of the 90's had the ability to be an ATG team. Flowers and Streak were just too good.
 
Heath Streak, Neil Johnson, Henry Olonga in one team itself! You dont want to mess with them. Flower brothers, Andrew campbell that is some serious power. 90's was such a strong era that we took this zimbabwe team as minnows.

Without meaning to be rude, the Bangladesh of today, on paper, is no match for this Zimbabwe team.
 
Rightarmfast said:
Heath Streak, Neil Johnson, Henry Olonga in one team itself! You dont want to mess with them. Flower brothers, Andrew campbell that is some serious power. 90's was such a strong era that we took this zimbabwe team as minnows.

Without meaning to be rude, the Bangladesh of today, on paper, is no match for this Zimbabwe team.
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It's alaistar Campbell.. Heath streak, Neil Johnson and Henry olonga were not some great players they were pretty decent players. You are making them sound like they were something else.. Infact I would say eddo brandes was a better bowler than all three.. Neil Johnson was a good all rounder though..

They had Andy flower who is arguably a top 3 best wicket keeper ever atleast in tests... 90's Zimbabwe team was better than BD IMO as well but the gap isn't as big as you are trying to make it to be..
 
It's no contest. The Zim team in the 90s was truly Test class. Gave us a scare a few times. Andy Flower, playing for any other team, would have gone on to become at ATG player.

Bangladesh of today aren't even on the same planet.
 
Bangladesh still wins. Zimbabwe relies on 2-3 players, plus terrible bowling.
 
big_gamer007 said:
It's alaistar Campbell.. Heath streak, Neil Johnson and Henry olonga were not some great players they were pretty decent players. You are making them sound like they were something else.. Infact I would say eddo brandes was a better bowler than all three.. Neil Johnson was a good all rounder though..

They had Andy flower who is arguably a top 3 best wicket keeper ever atleast in tests... 90's Zimbabwe team was better than BD IMO as well but the gap isn't as big as you are trying to make it to be..
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Kindly revisit some of the videos if they are available online of the 90's Zimbabwe team. I have no intention of making anyone bigger. You on the other hand, seem to be ignorant!
 
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Actually Paul Strang can become the leading spinner. Adrew Whittal and Traicos were not slouches either. Brandes, Streak, Jhonson and Olonga is a good fast attack.

Neil Johnson (LHB, RFM)
Grant Flower (RHB, SLA)
Alistair Campbell (LHB)
Murray Goodwin (RHB)
Andy Flower*+ (LHB)
Guy Whittall (RHB, RM)
Craig Wishart (RHB)
Heath Streak (RHB, RFM)
Paul Strang (RHB, LBG)
Eddo Brandes (RHB, RFM)
Henry Olonga (RHB, RFM)
 
Major said:
Bangladesh still wins. Zimbabwe relies on 2-3 players, plus terrible bowling.
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The fast bowlers are pretty decent bowlers. Just because they have four fast men, a medium pacer and two spinners allows them to bowl high intensity spells. Olonga, when clicked, was a handful.
 
Rightarmfast said:
Kindly revisit some of the videos if they are available online of the 90's Zimbabwe team. I have no intention of making anyone bigger. You on the other hand, seem to be ignorant!
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I have been watching cricket since 1992 WC and I have followed Zimbabwe, Kenya, BD etc throughout 90's so I know what I am seeing and don't need to rely on old footage online since I followed them.. I am not saying they were a bad team but the way you posted it seemed to me like you were saying players like olonga, Heath streak, Johnson were some ATG players.. They were decent players only ATG was Andy flower and the rest of them were decent players so it made a pretty good team.. BD today can still beat them 3 out of 10 times in favourable conditions though Andy flower was one of the best players of spin so he will neutralise BD favouring conditions..
 
Zimbabwe had a Test series win in Pakistan with big guns. Andy flower's name would pop up in the all time great test wicket keeper. They were regular county players.
 
Heath Streak is better than any Bowler Bangaldesh has ever produced.

Andy Flower is certified ATG.

Zimbabwe denied Test Victories to India in 1996 and 2000 and won a Test Series in Pakistan.

Bangaldesh can only dream about similar achievements .
 
I would say 90s zim was better. They gave more fight to team which were more stronger than current days.
 
Zim of 90s was a really good side. They will give a run for their money to Pakistan side of 4th June. However, if they cross paths with the Pakistan side of 18th June, they will be demolished.
 
Zimbabwe cricket has really deterioted.

They are currently in Scotland for a 2 ODI series.

The got beaten by Scotland in the first ODI
 
Rightarmfast said:
Well, they beat the strongest Pakistan side of the 90's in Test, in Pakistan itself!
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Bangladesh almost won a Test in Pakistan had it not been for cheating from Rashid Latif. Pakistan has a habit of losing to anyone. If Afghanistan played 20 tests vs Pakistan, they would win 1 or 2 of them purely by chance.
 
Zimbabwe of 90s are better I believe. They had some quality players.

But that was it for Zimbabwe. Since the 90s it has been downwards for Zimbabwe.
 
Zimbabwe of 90s had a very good batting line up with flower brothers,Campbell,Whittal brothers.Johnson a very good pace bowling all rounder.They had one world class pacer in Heath Streak.Other bowlers were decent or good like Brandes, but not more than that.Overall,there is not huge difference between 90's Zimbabwe and today's Bangladesh.They were better than Bangladesh,specially in tests. In mental strength and temperament ,that Zimbabwean team was superior to Bangladesh.
 
big_gamer007 said:
I have been watching cricket since 1992 WC and I have followed Zimbabwe, Kenya, BD etc throughout 90's so I know what I am seeing and don't need to rely on old footage online since I followed them.. I am not saying they were a bad team but the way you posted it seemed to me like you were saying players like olonga, Heath streak, Johnson were some ATG players.. They were decent players only ATG was Andy flower and the rest of them were decent players so it made a pretty good team.. BD today can still beat them 3 out of 10 times in favourable conditions though Andy flower was one of the best players of spin so he will neutralise BD favouring conditions..
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Ok son... I have been watching since 1981. I have followed Zimbabwe and the other teams too, pretty well. Nowhere did I mention they are ATG, maybe its about time you go to an optician or just work on your comprehension skills!
Zimbabwe of the 90's definitely were a stronger team and a pretty good team. They were a pretty good side right till the early 2000's.
 
Zimbabwe batsmen honed their skills in county cricket. They were complete pros. Just that they didn't have large pool of players at their disposal. Otherwise would have been a solid team. BD team is still not a complete professional side.
 
Rightarmfast said:
Ok son... I have been watching since 1981. I have followed Zimbabwe and the other teams too, pretty well. Nowhere did I mention they are ATG, maybe its about time you go to an optician or just work on your comprehension skills!


Zimbabwe of the 90's definitely were a stronger team and a pretty good team. They were a pretty good side right till the early 2000's.
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Lol looks like I rocked a nerve.. Read your original post once again to which I replied.. Olonga, streak, Johnson You don't mess with them... They were decent players not some WI, Aussie or even Pakistani legendary fast bowlers..

You don't mess with them = overhyping average bowlers..

Secondly you don't even remember their captains name it was Alastair Campbell and not Andrew Campbell so I doubt how much you remember.. Maybe old age catching up?

Anyways point is they were a pretty decent side no one is denying that but BD team of today can still win a match or two against them and in home conditions BD can even win a series if they can somehow contain Andy flower..
 
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How on earth Dave Houghton is not part of anyone's Zimbabwe team here? He was Zimbabwe's best bat with Andy in the 90s.
 
Lol, I'm seeing quite a few hilarious posts in this thread. This Bangladesh team is way better than 90s zimbabwe team. If current Bangladesh team had played against the 90s zimbabwe team bangla would've destroyed them for fun.


Yes, there were 2 or 3 very good players in 90s zimbabwe team but rest of the team was filled with mediocre players. They were so poor that throughout the whole 90s they managed to win only 2 odi series.


Even their best player Andy scored only 4 hundreds in odis in his entire career, wow what a player. Yes, Andy was still a good batsman especially in tests but nothing extraordinary. The whole zimbabwe team in 90s had only 2/3 very good players. A flower and Streak r couple of them. Campbell was decent, but rest were just rubbish.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Zimbabwe will beat Bangladsh in all tests, 3-0. Bangladesh will win ODIs by 3-2.
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Current Bangladesh team will thrash 90s zimbos in limited over cricket. But yes, in tests 90s zimbabwe will win against bangla quite easily.
 
If BD can beat NZ, what makes you think current BD team cannot beat Zim of 90s in ODI?

What was Zim of 90s performance in world cups?

BD actually surpassed that 90s Zim team from 2015..at least in ODI.
 
Zim was unquestionably better
Andy Flower may be the most underrated player of all time

Bangladeshi stats look much better but that's reflective of the times
 
IcedEarth said:
The fast bowlers are pretty decent bowlers. Just because they have four fast men, a medium pacer and two spinners allows them to bowl high intensity spells. Olonga, when clicked, was a handful.
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Mighty Olonga averages 38 and 35 with the ball in tests and odis respectively. God knows what would've happened to those numbers if he had played in today's batting friendly era

Even half fit mashrafe is 10 times better than Olonga ever was :))
 
Coconut said:
Current Bangladesh team will thrash 90s zimbos in limited over cricket. But yes, in tests 90s zimbabwe will win against bangla quite easily.
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Yes, Bangladesh will thrash Zimbabwe of the 90s in ODIs in Bangladesh. Outside, Bangladesh is heavily reliant on just 2 players, Tamim and Shakib and it will be a close series. Bangladesh will eventually win it but no way will they thrash Zimbabwe.
 
Heath Streak > any bowler produced by Bangladesh in their history
Andy Flower > any batsman produced by Bangladesh in their history

No disrespect to Bangladeshi team and fans but some of the Zimbabwe cricketers from the 90s were really really good. Too bad they could not achieve more due to all the politics that ruined Zimbabwean cricket.
 
This is actually a good comparison, I'll edge it in favor of Zimbabwe. No disrespect to Bangla boys, they are a very good side too.. fast improving side.. but this one I'll go with Zimbos.. only just.
 
Coconut said:
What did the mighty zimbos achieved in 90s barring a test series win against Pakistan? They were a rubbish odi team.
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Winning a test series against a premier team in der home conditions which are nthng but alien conditions for zimboks was a massive achievement...on the other hand bd team struggling to win a test forget abt series even in their home country...I believe test crckt is the ultimate form of crckt and the fact dat zimb test team was twice as good as current bd team confirms der achievement..
 
Brodipet_baadshah said:
Winning a test series against a premier team in der home conditions which are nthng but alien conditions for zimboks was a massive achievement...on the other hand bd team struggling to win a test forget abt series even in their home country...I believe test crckt is the ultimate form of crckt and the fact dat zimb test team was twice as good as current bd team confirms der achievement..
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Adding further..u cant compare odis of t20 era to the odis of 90s...u never know wat dat zimb team would have achieved in dis generation of flat tracks nd heavy bats
 
That Zimbabwe team had so many good players

Andy Flower, Grant Flower, Dave Houghton, Alaister Campbell, Neil Johnson, Craig Wishart, Heath Streak, Travis Friend, Henry Olanga, Paul Strang. Guy Whittal.

Andy Flower in my book is already a legend and all time great, the way he handled Murali reverse sweeping him with ease, he never got the recognition he deserved because he played for Zimbabwe.
 
If Zimbabwe could defeat Pak in Pak, then it will be a rout for Bangla in Test cricket anywhere they played. It seems like there's some catching up to do for the current minnows.
 
Brodipet_baadshah said:
Winning a test series against a premier team in der home conditions which are nthng but alien conditions for zimboks was a massive achievement...on the other hand bd team struggling to win a test forget abt series even in their home country...I believe test crckt is the ultimate form of crckt and the fact dat zimb test team was twice as good as current bd team confirms der achievement..
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So? Some of the folks here r acting as if 90s pak was an unbeatable team like 2000s Australia. :))

No, pak wasn't an invincible team at home during 90s by any stretch of imagination. Fact is they were quite average at home. They used to continuously loss test series at home during 90s.

That 90s Pakistan team lost test series to South Africa, Australia, srilanka and Drew with new Zealand at home within a span of 3 years. Finally they completed their poor run at home by losing to zimbabwe.

Just because zimbos managed to salvage a series win against an unpredictable pak team doesn't mean they were better than current Bangladesh team. Yes, I still think they were slightly ahead in test but that 90s zimbos will get destroyed by current Bangladesh team in odis.
 
Macho Mann said:
exactly, they defeated both newzealand and south africa in 1999 WC group stage
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90s bangla who didn't even properly know what is cricket back then beat finalist Pakistan in 1999 WC. This types of one or two victory doesn't mean much.
 
Zim tips it because they had fighters in their team, men with grit. Flower brothers, Campbell, Heath Streak.....whenever their backs where against the wall these guys dont give up without a fight.

Thats what Bangladesh lack now, Shakib is way past his best, maybe Mushfiqur is one with some guts. The rest look like they easily fold over.
 
Coconut said:
Mighty Olonga averages 38 and 35 with the ball in tests and odis respectively. God knows what would've happened to those numbers if he had played in today's batting friendly era

Even half fit mashrafe is 10 times better than Olonga ever was :))
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I think you have some issues in comprehension.

1. I said when Olonga "clicked" he was a handful. Never said he was a handful all the time. He was a bowler of those Dilhara Fernando and Ajit Agarkar category. They can provide sheer brilliance once in a blue moon. ( I personally like those players)

2. Mashrafe Mortaza is unfit as you get and stopped bowling due to injuries. Olonga on other hand lost his best years when he decided to protest. And Mortaza averages gran 41.5 in test matches.

3. Olonga is the 4th seamer of the side. Bangladesh will take him even today as their third seamer for test matches.
 
shortbread said:
Zim tips it because they had fighters in their team, men with grit. Flower brothers, Campbell, Heath Streak.....whenever their backs where against the wall these guys dont give up without a fight.

Thats what Bangladesh lack now, Shakib is way past his best, maybe Mushfiqur is one with some guts. The rest look like they easily fold over.
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Really ? Then how come Shakib smashed match winning 114 against New Zealand which even made the bowler Trent Boult to clap for him ?
 
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