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At least 16 people were killed and over two dozen others injured in a blast that targeted members of the Hazara community in Quetta's Hazarganji area on Friday morning.

Deputy Inspector General (DIG) Abdul Razzaq Cheema confirmed the death toll to DawnNewsTV and that the blast was targeted at the ethnic community.

"The attack took place in a [green grocer's] shop. An Improvised Explosive Device (IED) was planted in a gunny sack filled with potatoes. Whether it was timed or remote-controlled, our experts will tell. Right now they are investigating," DIG Cheema said.

Eight of those killed were Hazara. At least one Frontier Corps soldier deputed for their security was also martyred in the attack, DIG Cheema said. Others who lost their lives included shopkeepers, businessmen and citizens working or residing in the area.

Four FC soldiers were among the injured.

"We are giving our attention to the wounded at this time," he said. They have been shifted to Bolan Medical Complex for treatment, and an emergency has been declared in hospitals in the city.

"We have arranged transportation back [home] for Hazaras who remained unhurt in the attack," he added.

The Hazarganji area in Quetta has been witness to similar attacks in the past. Hazara shopkeepers are known to stock vegetables and fruits from the Hazarganji bazaar to sell at their own shops. They are provided a security escort to and from Hazarganji since they are constantly under threat of attack.

DIG Cheema, speaking to DawnNewsTV, explained that "people from the Hazara community come here daily in a convoy from Hazara Town to buy vegetables. They are escorted by police and FC, and then they return there. It was the same today," he said.

"There were 11 cars and 55 people. Police and FC were in front of them and behind them. They [the security] brought them to Hazarganji. When they entered the sabzi mandi, the police expanded their perimeter to the gates so that no one would enter, while the FC took their positions," he continued.

"Around 7:30am, they [the shoppers] were loading [produce] at a shop when the blast happened."

"The security forces are here, police are here. What more can we do? We secure them [the community] and travel back and forth with them. If something is hidden in a shop, then the shopkeepers will need to be probed," he said.

He explained that the last time there had been an attack in the area, he had written to the administration and asked them to keep the area clean so that there were no hiding places for bombs.

He also regretted that the Safe City project for Quetta had run into delays, and that there was a shortage of CCTV cameras in the area.

CM, PM condemn attack
Balochistan Chief Minister Jam Kamal strongly condemned the attack. He assured that the elements involved in the attack and those leading them would be proceeded against, and directed the provision of the best medical treatment to the wounded.

"People who have an extremist mindset are a menace to society," the chief minister asserted. "We must foil the conspiracy to disrupt peace."

Prime Minister Imran Khan also condemned the blast and sought an inquiry report into the attack, Radio Pakistan reported.

Violence against Hazaras
Hazaras are disproportionately targeted by sectarian violence as they are easily identifiable due to their distinctive physical appearance. Nearly half a million Hazaras have settled here since fleeing Afghanistan to escape violence in their homeland during the past four decades.

A report released by the National Commission for Human Rights (NCHR) last year stated that 509 members of Hazara community were killed and 627 injured in various incidents of terrorism in Quetta from January 2012 to Dec 2017.

NCHR official Fazeela Alyani had earlier said that all these lives were lost in Quetta. According to the NCHR, targeted killings, suicide attacks, and bomb blasts have inflicted harm to daily life, education, and business activities of ethnic Hazara community members in Balochistan's largest city.

Alyani had also explained that the fear and intimidation forced Hazaras to migrate to foreign countries, while target killings forced Hazara students to abandon their studies.

Balochistan has seen at least three others blasts in different areas over the last month, with varying targets.

Four policemen were targeted in an improvised explosive device (IED) blast in Quetta, while an IED blast targeting a passenger train in Balochistan's Dera Murad Jamali killed four people.

At least two people were killed and 11 others injured in a bomb blast in a Panjgur bazaar.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1475621/16-people-killed-in-attack-targeting-hazara-community-in-quetta
 
Who are hazars? Why are they being targeted?

An ethnic group originating from Afghanistan. They have visible Central Asian features in appearance and stand out among Punjabis, Pathans, Balochis, etc. They are targeted by Sunni militant groups like Lashker-e-Jhangvi because they are followers of Shia islam.
 
Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Illahi Rajiyoon.
 
An ethnic group originating from Afghanistan. They have visible Central Asian features in appearance and stand out among Punjabis, Pathans, Balochis, etc. They are targeted by Sunni militant groups like Lashker-e-Jhangvi because they are followers of Shia islam.

they are targeted by indian sponsored terrorists as admitted by Yadhav. It is a stated policy of RAW to attack the Hazaras to cause a shia sunni split amongst others in balochistan.
 
Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi rajioon

Tragedy strikes the Hazara community again :(

Anti Shia attacks have been controlled all around the country to great extent but somehow terrorists regularly find a way to attack Hazaras:(

Hopefully there is something serious done to stop these attacks.
 
they are targeted by indian sponsored terrorists as admitted by Yadhav. It is a stated policy of RAW to attack the Hazaras to cause a shia sunni split amongst others in balochistan.

I don't like to jump to conclusions, but it is telling that these attacks are always carried out by mystery assailants rather than rampaging mobs that you would see in genuine inter-religious strife as witnessed in other countries.
 
20 killed, 48 injured in attack targeting Hazara community in Quetta

At least 20 people were killed and 48 injured in a blast believed to be targeting members of the Hazara community in Quetta's Hazarganji market on Friday morning.

The attack claimed the lives of at least eight Hazara and one Frontier Corps soldier who was deputed for the community's security, said DIG Cheema. Others who lost their lives included shopkeepers, businessmen and citizens working or residing in the area.

Four FC soldiers were among the injured.

Deputy Inspector General (DIG) Abdul Razzaq Cheema, who was present at the site of the attack, said the blast targeted the Hazara ethnic community.

"The attack took place in a [green grocer's] shop. An Improvised Explosive Device (IED) was planted in a gunny sack filled with potatoes. Whether it was timed or remote-controlled, our experts will tell. Right now they are investigating," DIG Cheema told reporters at the site of the attack.

"We are giving our attention to the wounded at this time," he said. The injured have been shifted to hospitals ─ where an emergency has been imposed ─ for treatment.

"We have arranged transportation back [home] for Hazaras who remained unhurt in the attack," he added.

However, Home Minister Ziaullah Langove, who held a press conference later in the day, said that the blast was not targeting "a specific community".

"Our guess is that no specific community was targeted. Marri Baloch and FC personnel were among those killed as well. The numbers of the Hazara community were just greater," Langove said.

He also described the blast as a suicide attack.

Following the blast, a high-level meeting took place under Balochistan Chief Minister Jam Kamal's stewardship to review and reinforce security measures.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1475621/2...n-attack-targeting-hazara-community-in-quetta
 
I don't like to jump to conclusions, but it is telling that these attacks are always carried out by mystery assailants rather than rampaging mobs that you would see in genuine inter-religious strife as witnessed in other countries.

Kulbashan Yadav admitted it. One of his tasks was to sow discord in balochistan. Theyw ant to create insurgencies everywhere in Pakistan. So that they can supply weapons to these groups and continue to create stabilised destabilisation within the country.
 
Grave act of terrorism from India's proxy. RIP to the victims. Hazara community in Quetta are well respected throughout Pakistan.

Govt should investigate and hand in the dossier to India because I am sure there are proofs.
 
Grave act of terrorism from India's proxy. RIP to the victims. Hazara community in Quetta are well respected throughout Pakistan.

Govt should investigate and hand in the dossier to India because I am sure there are proofs.

Instead of blaming India,our government should show some spine and take action against the snakes we have been nurturing for many years.Sectarian groups like LeT and Sipah e Sahabah have thrived because our military considers them as strategic assets.Supporting these terrorist groups is the prime reason of our isolation in the world.Even China has concerns regarding the presence of these terrorist groups.
Blaming India and other hypothetical intelligence agencies will only cover the incompetence of our security forces.If India is involved,why do they always target religious minorities?Why India does not target the majority?
 
Instead of blaming India,our government should show some spine and take action against the snakes we have been nurturing for many years.Sectarian groups like LeT and Sipah e Sahabah have thrived because our military considers them as strategic assets.Supporting these terrorist groups is the prime reason of our isolation in the world.Even China has concerns regarding the presence of these terrorist groups.
Blaming India and other hypothetical intelligence agencies will only cover the incompetence of our security forces.If India is involved,why do they always target religious minorities?Why India does not target the majority?

Minority groups are prime targets for an enemy state as it will shed Pakistan in the worst light. Of course that means any group like LeT or SS which is conducting such anti-state activities is by default an enemy of the state as well, they can hardly be considered as strategic assets if they are killing their own population.

But we are jumping the gun, has any home based religious organisation claimed responsibility? If they have, or if they are implicated with a shred of evidence they should be wiped out regardless of outside sponsorship.
 
As usual, Pakistanis blaming India for yet another attack on Hazaras.

These attacks are conducted by our fellow Pakistanis: LeJ.

I have written and discussed the Shia genocide happening in Pakistan on another thread extensively and how anti-Shia groups operate freely in Pakistan and how they are given state protection.

The killings of Shias don’t make headlines in Pakistan.
 
I hope the attackers rot in help. These terrorists will never win.
 
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As usual, Pakistanis blaming India for yet another attack on Hazaras.

These attacks are conducted by our fellow Pakistanis: LeJ.

I have written and discussed the Shia genocide happening in Pakistan on another thread extensively and how anti-Shia groups operate freely in Pakistan and how they are given state protection.

The killings of Shias don’t make headlines in Pakistan.

Wrong use of the word Genocide. It's not A GENOCIDE.
 
Whenever the Kashmirs talk of independence from Indian, Indians have an hard on for Baluchistan.

We have had no suicide blasts for a while, when cricket getting closer to coming bacnk this happens, coincidence?
 
This is why I say we are in no position to cover every attack on Indian Muslims. We need to clean our own closet before pointing the figure at the neighbours. Pak still has serious matters like this to deal with.
 
As usual, Pakistanis blaming India for yet another attack on Hazaras.

These attacks are conducted by our fellow Pakistanis: LeJ.

I have written and discussed the Shia genocide happening in Pakistan on another thread extensively and how anti-Shia groups operate freely in Pakistan and how they are given state protection.

The killings of Shias don’t make headlines in Pakistan.

Are you in your senses regarding Shia genocide??? Shias in Pakistan have more rights & privileges than sunnis. Don't talk rubbish.....genocide of Shias
 
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajioon
No offense but these hazars shouldn't live in Pakistan anymore. They should move to their own country i-e Afghanistan. They are the threat to their own lives & for Pakistan too.
 
Are you in your senses regarding Shia genocide??? Shias in Pakistan have more rights & privileges than sunnis. Don't talk rubbish.....genocide of Shias

I am sure the Shias in Pakistan are blessed to have the company of Lashekere Jhangvi and SSP.
 
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajioon
No offense but these hazars shouldn't live in Pakistan anymore. They should move to their own country i-e Afghanistan. They are the threat to their own lives & for Pakistan too.

We as Muslims should be able to protect anyone who comes to us for refuge.
 
We as Muslims should be able to protect anyone who comes to us for refuge.

Indeed yes but in an ideal circumstances. My point is that why didn't they migrated to Iran which is much more closer to them both culturally & religiously and more peaceful too. Now when Pakistan which is already suffering from 10 different types of wars & terrorism is not an ideal place to take shelter.
Secondly the locals baloch & pashtoons are feeling some sort of inferiority as theses hazara peoples are given so much security protocols by the state.
I don't see any country in the world giving this much protocol to the refugees, or is there any??
 
Can we call this Islamaphobia?

Some truly disgusting posts in this thread.
 
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajioon
No offense but these hazars shouldn't live in Pakistan anymore. They should move to their own country i-e Afghanistan. They are the threat to their own lives & for Pakistan too.

According to your logic,Pakistanis should move to India because we were once a part of India.
 
Can we call this Islamaphobia?

Some truly disgusting posts in this thread.
While we are raising hue and cry over discrimination of Muslims across the world,seldom do we ponder over the state of religious minorities in our so called "land of pure".
 
Just as Prime Minister Imran Khan accepted that Militant organisations were made by Army and are not needed anymore, aka famous New York Times Leaks this happens.


Innalillah e Wa Inna Eleh e Rajeoon.


Stop Shia Apartheid.



State tries to show its muscle with such brutality.


Lashkar e Jhangvi, SSP can be destroyed in few days provided these snakes used against BLA are disowned as strategic assets.




Hazara Shias are being brutality martyred in Balochistan since last 10 years. PPP CM was forced to resign and PPP was severely maligned for this brutality but those who do not fulfill there constitutional obligations (state institutes) get away with it.



First blame PPP, PML N, National party & now BAP & PTI while saying that law and order maintenance is responsibility of government.


And as usual RAW India chaska to fool public.
 
We as Muslims should be able to protect anyone who comes to us for refuge.
People from Syria are migrating to western countries,where major is non-Muslim.Since the majority is non-Muslim,should they persecute the migrants?
 
We are migrants;we came from India.Many moved from India and settled in Karachi.

I also the one whose forefathers moved from India but you need to understand the line on which partition happened. Pakistan made for the Muslims of United India..
By giving shelters to millions of refugees from Afghanistan Bangladesh and Burma Pakistan has had harm himself more than anyone.
My point is simple that Pakistan which is already suffering from multiple types of terrorism is not a best place to take shelter. Neither Pakistan economically capable nor on the basis of land Pakistan can help them anymore.
Plz don't take my point on religious basis. This is not genocide or something like targeting Shia community this is pure terrorism. Imagine peoples from Fata swat or waziristan stand some day by saying that it is a genocide of Deobandi sect then will you accept their case.
 
Are you in your senses regarding Shia genocide??? Shias in Pakistan have more rights & privileges than sunnis. Don't talk rubbish.....genocide of Shias

Are you sure they have rights in Pakistan?They are treated as third-grade citizens. 6000 Shias have been murdered in the last decade.

Pakistan is a horrible place for minorities.
 
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajioon
No offense but these hazars shouldn't live in Pakistan anymore. They should move to their own country i-e Afghanistan. They are the threat to their own lives & for Pakistan too.

Appalling!!!If that is your logic, all Muslims in non-Muslims countries should go back to their wonderful countries because they pose a threat of themselves and their host countries.

By your logic, the murder of 50 Muslims in Christchurch was justified.
 
Indeed yes but in an ideal circumstances. My point is that why didn't they migrated to Iran which is much more closer to them both culturally & religiously and more peaceful too. Now when Pakistan which is already suffering from 10 different types of wars & terrorism is not an ideal place to take shelter.
Secondly the locals baloch & pashtoons are feeling some sort of inferiority as theses hazara peoples are given so much security protocols by the state.
I don't see any country in the world giving this much protocol to the refugees, or is there any??

As an apologist for anti muslim violence in india, I approve of this post. I would be proud of such a post myself.
 
I also the one whose forefathers moved from India but you need to understand the line on which partition happened. Pakistan made for the Muslims of United India..
By giving shelters to millions of refugees from Afghanistan Bangladesh and Burma Pakistan has had harm himself more than anyone.
My point is simple that Pakistan which is already suffering from multiple types of terrorism is not a best place to take shelter. Neither Pakistan economically capable nor on the basis of land Pakistan can help them anymore.
Plz don't take my point on religious basis. This is not genocide or something like targeting Shia community this is pure terrorism. Imagine peoples from Fata swat or waziristan stand some day by saying that it is a genocide of Deobandi sect then will you accept their case.

Either you've no idea about the persecution we face in Pakistan or you're just too full of yourself to have any sympathy for minorities.
 
Are you sure they have rights in Pakistan?They are treated as third-grade citizens. 6000 Shias have been murdered in the last decade.

Pakistan is a horrible place for minorities.

And how many non Shia died in last ten years?
 
Either you've no idea about the persecution we face in Pakistan or you're just too full of yourself to have any sympathy for minorities.

Don't play victim card bro. Shias have all the rights what every other non Shia Muslim have. If your majalis imam bargha targeted by terrorists then masjids of non Shia were equally targeted. If you have grievances in one province then you are running the govt of other province since last 40-50 years.
 
Don't play victim card bro. Shias have all the rights what every other non Shia Muslim have. If your majalis imam bargha targeted by terrorists then masjids of non Shia were equally targeted. If you have grievances in one province then you are running the govt of other province since last 40-50 years.

Don't you dare and try cover up extremist Wahhabi elements (Lashkare Jhangvi, Sipahe Sahaba etc) as terrorists.

Terrorists don't roam freely in Pakistan but these groups have open demonstrations in many Pakistani cities despite publicly claiming Shias as "wajib ul qatl".

Get out of your tiny bubble please.
 
What's worse is that is the this barely made the news.



It was a bigger news for our garbage media when corrupt traitor Nawaz Sharif was suffering from fake ailments. Pathetic state of affairs. Makes my blood boil.


The Hazara community has special security afforded to them by the state. The areas of Hazara majority are under round the clock surveillance then how is it possible that explosives where sneaked in a bori? Some heads must roll.
 
Appalling!!!If that is your logic, all Muslims in non-Muslims countries should go back to their wonderful countries because they pose a threat of themselves and their host countries.

By your logic, the murder of 50 Muslims in Christchurch was justified.

I don't know should I laugh or weap, bhai who is stopping them from migration, bhai but they should have migrate to the country who can afford them. Migrate to that country where there is a lot of tolerance, equality & humanity in the society & where there is no terrorism. Why you peoples staying quite on Iran not accepting these hazara community. Iran is at equal distance from them like Pakistan & Iran is both culturally & religiously closer to them. Pakistan which is already been suffering from terrorism can not afford fiery refugees.
 
Don't you dare and try cover up extremist Wahhabi elements (Lashkare Jhangvi, Sipahe Sahaba etc) as terrorists.

Terrorists don't roam freely in Pakistan but these groups have open demonstrations in many Pakistani cities despite publicly claiming Shias as "wajib ul qatl".

Get out of your tiny bubble please.

Yes indeed they are roaming free everywhere but peoples of sipah e muhammad, lashkar e muhammad and tehrik e nifaz e jafria are free too. Everyone is washing his hand from this bloody Ganga.
 
Yes indeed they are roaming free everywhere but peoples of sipah e muhammad, lashkar e muhammad and tehrik e nifaz e jafria are free too. Everyone is washing his hand from this bloody Ganga.

Kindly educate yourself. Tehreek e nifaz e Jafria has never staged any militant attacks on anyone. Neither are they a militant group. They are a religious group which advocate against anti-Shia laws.
 
Kindly educate yourself. Tehreek e nifaz e Jafria has never staged any militant attacks on anyone. Neither are they a militant group. They are a religious group which advocate against anti-Shia laws.

Then why they are banned by GOP. My dear friend no one is saint. If A is sponsoring by Saudia then B is running on indo-Iran money.
 
I don't know should I laugh or weap, bhai who is stopping them from migration, bhai but they should have migrate to the country who can afford them. Migrate to that country where there is a lot of tolerance, equality & humanity in the society & where there is no terrorism. Why you peoples staying quite on Iran not accepting these hazara community. Iran is at equal distance from them like Pakistan & Iran is both culturally & religiously closer to them. Pakistan which is already been suffering from terrorism can not afford fiery refugees.

What is stopping Muslims from migrating back to their own countries especially when Islamophobia is at an all-time high?

Do you realise you are blaming terror victims for their own killings? Australian senator did the same and the whole of Pakistan went into a frenzy.

Read and reflect on the post you just made. By your rationale, if any Muslim is killed in violence in any non-Muslim country, then is it totally fine. There should be no condemnation. Did you have the same benchmark for those killed in Christchurch? Or did you only condemned the attack because the killed were Sunnis?
 
Are you seriously trying to deny that Shias are killed in targeted attacks?

He isn't.

He is trying to relate and expose your hypocrisy by bringing the total number of deaths in Pakistan due to terrorism regardless of your beliefs.
 
Who did it?

It has not been established yet, I don't think any militant group has claimed responsibility, although it could well be that one of those is behind it. This thread in the meantime is degenerating into sectarian finger pointing and conspiracy theory which will happen when no arrests have been made.
 
The militant Islamic State group claimed responsibility for the terrorist attack in Quetta which killed 20 people and left 48 more injured, the group's Amaq news agency said on Saturday.

The group released a photograph of the bomber along with his name on Saturday and said the attack targeted the Shia community. It has claimed a number of attacks in the past.

On Friday, however, a little known faction of the Taliban had claimed responsibility for the blast, saying it collaborated with Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), which has been behind numerous bloody attacks on the Shia community in Pakistan.

Dozens of people including women and children belonging to the Hazara community continued a sit in on one of the city's major roads on Saturday, demanding the arrest of those behind the bombing.

Prime Minister Imran Khan condemned "the terrorist attack" and sought "an immediate inquiry and increased security for the [targeted] people".

Amnesty International, in a statement on Friday, had said the blast was a “painful reminder” of the many attacks suffered by the Hazara community in Quetta over the years.

“Each time, there are promises that more will be done to protect them, and each time those promises have failed to materialise,” wrote Omar Waraich, Amnesty's deputy director for South Asia.

Following a high-level meeting under Balochistan Chief Minister Jam Kamal's stewardship on Friday, it was decided that closed-circuit television (CCTV) cameras will be immediately installed at the Hazarganji market and other public places.

Action on terrorists' hideouts and against their leaders will also be boosted, the caucus affirmed.

Hazarganji a repeat target
The Hazarganji area in Quetta has been witness to similar attacks in the past. Hazara shopkeepers are known to stock vegetables and fruits from the Hazarganji bazaar to sell at their own shops. They are provided a security escort to and from Hazarganji since they are constantly under threat of attack.

DIG Cheema, speaking to DawnNewsTV on Friday explained that "people from the Hazara community come here daily in a convoy from Hazara Town to buy vegetables. They are escorted by police and Frontier Corps (FC), and then they return there. It was the same today," he said.

"There were 11 cars and 55 people. Police and FC were in front of them and behind them. They [the security] brought them to Hazarganji. When they entered the sabzi mandi, the police expanded their perimeter to the gates so that no one would enter, while the FC took their positions," he continued.

"Around 7:30am, they [the shoppers] were loading [produce] at a shop when the blast happened."

"The security forces are here, police are here. What more can we do? We secure them [the community] and travel back and forth with them. If something is hidden in a shop, then the shopkeepers will need to be probed," he said.

He explained that the last time there had been an attack in the area, he had written to the administration and asked them to keep the area clean so that there were no hiding places for bombs.

He also regretted that the Safe City project for Quetta had run into delays, and that there was a shortage of CCTV cameras in the area.

The attack came after a lull of at least a year in attacks against Hazaras, though there have been isolated shootings.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1475867/islamic-state-says-it-was-behind-quettas-hazarganji-market-bombing
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Deeply saddened & have strongly condemned the terrorist attack in Hazarganji market area of Quetta targeting our innocent people. I have asked for an immediate inquiry & increased security for the ppl. Prayers go to the families of the victims & for early recovery of the injured.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1116641857893806080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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QUETTA: Members of the Hazara community continued staging a sit-in for a second day on Saturday at Quetta's Western Bypass to demand better security measures following a blast in Hazarganji market a day earlier.

At least 20 people were killed and scores injured in a blast believed to be targeting members of the Hazara community in Quetta's Hazarganji market on Friday morning.

Women and children are among those who have been staging a sit-in since shortly after the blast.

The protesters demand that the government implements an effective security plan and ensure protection of the Hazara community.

Eight Hazara, an FC official and two children were among the dead. At least 48 others, including three security personnel, were injured in the blast, police and provincial authorities said.

Of the injured, 12 are under-treatment at BMC Hospital and three are said to be critical. Four others are being treated at Civil Hospital and one is said to be critical. Twenty-six of the 38 injured brought to Bolan Hospital have been discharged.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/234026-quetta-blast-hazara-community-stages-sit-in-for-second-day
 
What is stopping Muslims from migrating back to their own countries especially when Islamophobia is at an all-time high?

Do you realise you are blaming terror victims for their own killings? Australian senator did the same and the whole of Pakistan went into a frenzy.

Read and reflect on the post you just made. By your rationale, if any Muslim is killed in violence in any non-Muslim country, then is it totally fine. There should be no condemnation. Did you have the same benchmark for those killed in Christchurch? Or did you only condemned the attack because the killed were Sunnis?

Why do peoples migrate? IMO there are two reasons 1.they feel that they are unsafe 2. For better financial gain. Both are valid reasons
 
^in connection with above, Muslims migrate to west/developed countries bcz these countries are both safe & economically stable. Their economy can afford immigrants & refugees but is this a case with Pakistan too? No, neither Pakistan is a safe country nor it is economically stable.

I too plan sometime that I will try my best to send my kids to Europe/America for their better life but if I send them to Iraq or Afghanistan & then cursing these countries if anything bad happened.
 
Are you sure they have rights in Pakistan?They are treated as third-grade citizens. 6000 Shias have been murdered in the last decade.

Pakistan is a horrible place for minorities.

Bhai you are spot on but we are unwilling to see the truth in front of our eyes. Instead we prefer to criticise BJP tweets instead of focusing on our own nation.
 
Bhai you are spot on but we are unwilling to see the truth in front of our eyes. Instead we prefer to criticise BJP tweets instead of focusing on our own nation.

There lies the problem.

Not all Minority of India nor the minority of Pakistan isn’t capable of packing up and leave.

There are thousands of minority in both countries who are doing well in both countries.

But the discussion become useless and goes down to drain when people like you start making blanket statement.

Ruling party of Pakistan and the army does not achieve nor gain anything by having to deal with attacks on minority while promoting tourism in Pakistani, particularly religious tourism.

When y’all make statements like that you become part of the problem.
 
Bhai you are spot on but we are unwilling to see the truth in front of our eyes. Instead we prefer to criticise BJP tweets instead of focusing on our own nation.

PP isn't a closed shop. BJP supporters are active on these boards, we can't pretend they don't have a stake in what happens in Pakistan.
 
Why do peoples migrate? IMO there are two reasons 1.they feel that they are unsafe 2. For better financial gain. Both are valid reasons

You did not answer the question. Why don’t all Pakistanis and Muslims head back to their respective countries as their lives are constantly under threat?

You sound pretty confused.

Given your rationale, Trump is correct in banning Muslims from entrying thr US and the killings of Rohingyas and Muslims in Burma and India are justified.
 
PP isn't a closed shop. BJP supporters are active on these boards, we can't pretend they don't have a stake in what happens in Pakistan.

Quite telling that you are quick to counter certain posters, but silent on the apologist posts. What you don't say speaks louder than what you say.
 
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajioon
No offense but these hazars shouldn't live in Pakistan anymore. They should move to their own country i-e Afghanistan. They are the threat to their own lives & for Pakistan too.

ur post is as pathetic as the statement that was given by the Australian senator on the NZ mosque attack
 
ur post is as pathetic as the statement that was given by the Australian senator on the NZ mosque attack

OK then call peoples from Burma, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Sudan to come in flocks & live in pockets, change the demography, provide a mouthful chance to enemy to attack them & then cry yei jo dehshat gardi hei is k peechay wardi hei.
 
You did not answer the question. Why don’t all Pakistanis and Muslims head back to their respective countries as their lives are constantly under threat?

You sound pretty confused.

Given your rationale, Trump is correct in banning Muslims from entrying thr US and the killings of Rohingyas and Muslims in Burma and India are justified.

Plz answer me one thing first. Are you of Pakistani descendant or Afghani?
 
OK then call peoples from Burma, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Sudan to come in flocks & live in pockets, change the demography, provide a mouthful chance to enemy to attack them & then cry yei jo dehshat gardi hei is k peechay wardi hei.

wow, pathetic

so if tomorrow some terrorist groups target christian in Pakistan then instead of catching those terrorist we should deport the christians? This is ur logic

or maybe your problem is with shias in general.
 
wow, pathetic

so if tomorrow some terrorist groups target christian in Pakistan then instead of catching those terrorist we should deport the christians? This is ur logic

or maybe your problem is with shias in general.

You I think not getting what I am try to saying, bhai europe/developed countries have the economy which easily bear immigrants, their society is 100 times more civilized, they have less population & more resources in fact they required cheap labor but in the case of Pakistan every thing is contrary. Our economy and our social values both are touching new lows. Lot of unemployment turning the young generation into criminals and goons. They are willing to earn money irrespective of haram/halal. Furthermore these hazara people are staying in the most sensitive & the most undeveloped province where there is a already a lot of inferiority complex among the peoples & there is also a feel of bitterness against them in locals as locals think that hazara people are eating their resources. All these things collectively provide an ample chance to enemy to attack them & shame Pakistan on the name of Shia killings. Bhai they are the victims of proxies of international agencies.
 
wow, pathetic

so if tomorrow some terrorist groups target christian in Pakistan then instead of catching those terrorist we should deport the christians? This is ur logic

or maybe your problem is with shias in general.

I don't know how I missed to read this. Anyway listen the person used to sit in the back of my cabin Mansoor Ali Jaffrey is shia and I hate him so much that every day we used to do lunch in same plate I hate him this much than I share him my closest personal talks which married people usually do not & he too. We share our workload almost daily in order to leave the office timely. Rest of the time I spend at home where my right neighbor is Imran Zaidi which is also from shia community. I don't know since when we both become father from playing together of young kids age. Almost every month I eat niaz wali halim & biryani from his house. Both of our families share very good interpersonal relationship. We do tease each other with odd names like ******* & makkad on regular. One more thing which I always think that I will always prefer a shia neighbor of my culture over an afghan/Tajik of my sect.
 
You I think not getting what I am try to saying, bhai europe/developed countries have the economy which easily bear immigrants, their society is 100 times more civilized, they have less population & more resources in fact they required cheap labor but in the case of Pakistan every thing is contrary. Our economy and our social values both are touching new lows. Lot of unemployment turning the young generation into criminals and goons. They are willing to earn money irrespective of haram/halal. Furthermore these hazara people are staying in the most sensitive & the most undeveloped province where there is a already a lot of inferiority complex among the peoples & there is also a feel of bitterness against them in locals as locals think that hazara people are eating their resources. All these things collectively provide an ample chance to enemy to attack them & shame Pakistan on the name of Shia killings. Bhai they are the victims of proxies of international agencies.

Hazazras are Pakistani citizens. They hold Pakistani ID like everybody else. How can you say they do not belong here?

And, LeJ is not a proxy. It is a Pakistani terror outfit that routinely holds pro-army rallies in Balouchistan. Its leader Ramzan Mengal was relased on 10th April.
 
Hazazras are Pakistani citizens. They hold Pakistani ID like everybody else. How can you say they do not belong here?

And, LeJ is not a proxy. It is a Pakistani terror outfit that routinely holds pro-army rallies in Balouchistan. Its leader Ramzan Mengal was relased on 10th April.

IS claimed responsibility for this attack. Remnants of TTP.

All based in Afghanistan.
 
Are you in your senses regarding Shia genocide??? Shias in Pakistan have more rights & privileges than sunnis. Don't talk rubbish.....genocide of Shias

Shias are absolutely facing genocide in Balochistan and some areas of the KPK Tribal Belt. They are being targeted in planned, systematic attacks, and the government are complacent, all they ever do is release hollow statements. There are plenty of Shia Hazara refugees here in New Zealand, and they had to go through some absolutely horrific experiences in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

If we talk about the rest of Pakistan, while probably not at the level of genocide, Shias are killed in targeted terrorist attacks all the time, but it hardly ever gets reported.

Denying any of this is plain ignorance, and a huge part of the whole problem. Shia genocide and killings are not going to end until everyone (mainly the government) recognise it as a serious issue.
 
you guys have no idea how Shias are targetted locally aswell.

Even in Pindi, in the middle class and lower class, people say alot of bad stuff about Shias, spreading rumours. Some people refrain from eating things from there house or keeping any social contact with them.

And before someone comes and rejects this, im talking about the middle and lower class. IF you live in Upper class societies, then trust you wont see any problem in Pakistan. THe moment you got out and interact with the middle and lower you see the problems.
 
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