20 killed, 48 injured in attack targeting Hazara community in Quetta

[Junaid_ahmed]

Hazazras are Pakistani citizens. They hold Pakistani ID like everybody else. How can you say they do not belong here?

And, LeJ is not a proxy. It is a Pakistani terror outfit that routinely holds pro-army rallies in Balouchistan. Its leader Ramzan Mengal was relased on 10th April.

My afghan brother, we are giving them Pakistani nationalities and then kill them, is that you are saying. May be we are taking the revenge of massacres of Genghis Khan from them
I suggest you should come up with digestible point.

 

[saeedhk]

My afghan brother, we are giving them Pakistani nationalities and then kill them, is that you are saying. May be we are taking the revenge of massacres of Genghis Khan from them
I suggest you should come up with digestible point.

I seriously what you are trying to say. You justified the killing of Hazaras and now you are running away with your tail between your legs.

 

[Junaid_ahmed]

you guys have no idea how Shias are targetted locally aswell.

Even in Pindi, in the middle class and lower class, people say alot of bad stuff about Shias, spreading rumours. Some people refrain from eating things from there house or keeping any social contact with them.

And before someone comes and rejects this, im talking about the middle and lower class. IF you live in Upper class societies, then trust you wont see any problem in Pakistan. THe moment you got out and interact with the middle and lower you see the problems.

At least you have come down to hate from genocide. Hate is common in this illiterate society. Peoples hate each other on ground of race, language, culture and so the sect is.
BTW your 11,000 posts in 5 years shows that you emphasize on quantity rather quality

 

[Junaid_ahmed]

I seriously what you are trying to say. You justified the killing of Hazaras and now you are running away with your tail between your legs.

Lagay raho munna bhai..... sorry bro, I am not going to reply you anymore.

 

[shaaik]

Hazaras continue Quetta sit-in for third day; CTD team set up to investigate Hazarganji attack

A probe team comprising senior Counter-Terrorism Department (CTD) officials has been set up to investigate the Hazarganji blast as Quetta's Hazara community continued protesting the suicide attack for a third consecutive day.

Deputy Inspector General (DIG) Abdul Razzaq Cheema told DawnNewsTV that a team of CTD officials had visited the site of the attack in Hazarganji's fruit and vegetable market to collect evidence for its investigation.

The body parts of the suspected attacker have been sent to the Punjab Forensic Science Agency for DNA testing. The DIG said that the test reports, once issued, would be handed over to Balochistan Chief Minister Jam Kamal, but did not specify when they would be issued.

At least 19 people, including eight members of the Hazara community, were killed and 48 others were wounded in a suicide blast on Friday whose responsibility was claimed by the Qari Husain faction of the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan as well as the militant Islamic State group.

The Hazara community staged a protest against the killings following the attack. On Saturday, despite reassurances by federal minister Ali Zaidi, the protesters refused to call off their sit-in until all their demands were met, including the arrests of those involved in the attack, steps for protection of the community, and implementation of NAP without discrimination.

Violence against Hazaras

Hazaras are disproportionately targeted by sectarian violence as they are easily identifiable due to their distinctive physical appearance. Nearly half a million Hazaras have settled here since fleeing Afghanistan to escape violence in their homeland during the past four decades.

A report released by the National Commission for Human Rights (NCHR) last year stated that 509 members of Hazara community were killed and 627 injured in various incidents of terrorism in Quetta from January 2012 to Dec 2017.

NCHR official Fazeela Alyani had earlier said that all these lives were lost in Quetta. According to the NCHR, targeted killings, suicide attacks, and bomb blasts have inflicted harm to daily life, education, and business activities of ethnic Hazara community members in Balochistan's largest city.

Alyani had also explained that the fear and intimidation forced Hazaras to migrate to foreign countries, while target killings forced Hazara students to abandon their studies.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1476049/h...-team-set-up-to-investigate-hazarganji-attack

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Quite telling that you are quick to counter certain posters, but silent on the apologist posts. What you don't say speaks louder than what you say.

I don't claim to be free of bias, make of that what you will, but I have already said that those responsible need to be wiped out regardless of who their backers may be. If it's a home grown organisation then the military needs to be put to use to clean them out and destroy the roots.

 

[giri26]

Hazara protesters want PM Khan to visit victims' families

QUETTA: Amid heavy showers and cold weather, members of the Hazara community continued their sit-in for a third consecutive day, demanding that Prime Minister Imran Khan come to Quetta and assure them of protection and impartial implementation of the National Action Plan (NAP).

The western bypass, which links the city with highways, remained blocked for traffic as security forces surrounded the area where the Hazara families had set up their protest camp against the Friday blast at the Hazarganji vegetable and fruit market.

The suicide attack resulted in the killing of 19 people, including eight members of the Hazara community. Eleven others belonged to different tribes. Among them, there was one security official who was on duty at the blast site.

Representing the protesters, Advocate Tahir Hazara expressed dismay over the federal government’s attitude and regretted that Prime Minister Imran Khan had no time to visit Quetta after the tragic incident of Hazarganji.

He said the government had failed to protect their lives, as terrorists were continuously targeting the Hazara community in Quetta. “We have lost hundreds of our loved ones during the last 10 years,” he added.

Advocate Tahir said the National Action Plan had been prepared by the parliament with consensus yet many points of NAP were not being implemented. It was for this reason that the people of Hazara community were being targeted by terrorists, he added.

“PM Khan should ensure full implementation of the National Action Plan,” he reiterated.

The protesters also chanted slogans against the authorities for failing to protect the people against terrorist attacks.

While the provincial authorities contacted the protesters and assured NAP’s implementation, the latter refused to end their sit-in until all their demands are met.

Meanwhile, more workers of the Majlis Wahdat-i-Muslimeen (MWM) joined in the protest and announced their support for the Hazara community.

Addressing a press conference, MWM Secretary General Allama Raja Nasir Abbas demanded that the federal government ensure implementation of NAP. He said frequent attacks against the Hazara community were giving a message to the world that Pakistan was not safe.

However, he said, no one was safe in Quetta. Along with ordinary masses, security personnel too had been martyred he said, adding that it raised questions over capabilities of the government. He said the state must act without further delay, because the people were tired of lifting the coffins of their loved ones.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1476210/hazara-protesters-want-pm-khan-to-visit-victims-families

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Then why they are banned by GOP. My dear friend no one is saint. If A is sponsoring by Saudia then B is running on indo-Iran money.

Blanket statement.

Show me proof if Tehrik e Niffaz e Jaffria have staged any militant attack or extremist attack on ANYONE.

Even you are not saint. So going by your logic, I can also say that you are funded by Saudia to spread this propaganda. Doesn't mean that I'm right.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

He isn't.

He is trying to relate and expose your hypocrisy by bringing the total number of deaths in Pakistan due to terrorism regardless of your beliefs.

NEWSFLASH

You can get killed in Pakistan due to your beliefs. Also not by terrorists but by fellow Pakistani Muslims.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

He isn't.

He is trying to relate and expose your hypocrisy by bringing the total number of deaths in Pakistan due to terrorism regardless of your beliefs.

What hypocrisy?

Come out of your tiny bubble, my dear.

Shias get killed for their beliefs. Don't make me open Pandora box. I can post a lot of authentic sources from books of very renowned scholars of a specific majority Muslim sect which considers Shias "wajib ul qatal" and "rafidhis".

If mods allow it and if you wanna eat humble pie I can post these references.

 

[Junaid_ahmed]

NEWSFLASH

You can get killed in Pakistan due to your beliefs. Also not by terrorists but by fellow Pakistani Muslims.

I am assuming that you are talking about those madrassa 5 6 7 years old kids who died in bombings.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

I am assuming that you are talking about those madrassa 5 6 7 years old kids who died in bombings.

[MENTION=147221]slipcatch[/MENTION]

No

I'm talking about Shaheed Ustad Sibte Jaffar Zaidi
I'm talking about Shaheed Allama Nasir Abbas

These are 2 most high profile targeted murders of Shia muslims.

Wikipedia and Human Rights Watch has a whole frikkin page dedicated to these targeted attacks.


https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/06/29/pakistan-rampant-killings-shia-extremists
https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/07/pakistans-shia-under-attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectarian_violence_in_Pakistan


If you wanna deny Shia genocide go ahead but don't you dare blame any victims or their families.

 

[slipcatch]

NEWSFLASH

You can get killed in Pakistan due to your beliefs. Also not by terrorists but by fellow Pakistani Muslims.

Exactly, you do not have to only shia to get killed.

 

[slipcatch]

What hypocrisy?

Come out of your tiny bubble, my dear.

Shias get killed for their beliefs. Don't make me open Pandora box. I can post a lot of authentic sources from books of very renowned scholars of a specific majority Muslim sect which considers Shias "wajib ul qatal" and "rafidhis".

If mods allow it and if you wanna eat humble pie I can post these references.

You jumped the gun without understanding the concept of Terrorism in Pakistan and sectarian violence.

You got a tunnel vision and you will only repeat what you have been taught.

 

[slipcatch]

[MENTION=147221]slipcatch[/MENTION]

No

I'm talking about Shaheed Ustad Sibte Jaffar Zaidi
I'm talking about Shaheed Allama Nasir Abbas

These are 2 most high profile targeted murders of Shia muslims.

Wikipedia and Human Rights Watch has a whole frikkin page dedicated to these targeted attacks.


https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/06/29/pakistan-rampant-killings-shia-extremists
https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/07/pakistans-shia-under-attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectarian_violence_in_Pakistan


If you wanna deny Shia genocide go ahead but don't you dare blame any victims or their families.

Not a genocide, let's get the nomenclature correct first.

Where have I denied innocent shia's being victim of terrorism as much as other groups in Pakistan and also the vast majority of Pakistani? point it out, please.

I can point out many other people who were not shia and they were targeted, too.

Either way, Pakistan has a long way to go but before you blame every Pakistani for that understand what is Pakistan and why it always happen in Pakistan after certain events.

 

[RickyG]

Not a genocide, let's get the nomenclature correct first.

Where have I denied innocent shia's being victim of terrorism as much as other groups in Pakistan and also the vast majority of Pakistani? point it out, please.

I can point out many other people who were not shia and they were targeted, too.

Either way, Pakistan has a long way to go but before you blame every Pakistani for that understand what is Pakistan and why it always happen in Pakistan after certain events.

Other minorities are targeted too. But in this instance, a shia community was targeted so why is it hypocritical to suggest that Shias are one of the communities that get targeted by extremist outfits?

Ahmadis, Hindus and Christians get targeted but sheer quantity of Shias that get killed is higher because they make up a larger portion of the general population than the other minorities.

You've made a bunch of generic statements that neither lead to any sort of a point nor carry any substance. That being said, you did call out someone as a hypocrite because he stood up for his community. I'd argue that you either are an extremist in ideology yourself or at the very least you sympathize with the likes of SSP/TTP/LeJ.

 

[slipcatch]

Other minorities are targeted too. But in this instance, a shia community was targeted so why is it hypocritical to suggest that Shias are one of the communities that get targeted by extremist outfits?

Ahmadis, Hindus and Christians get targeted but sheer quantity of Shias that get killed is higher because they make up a larger portion of the general population than the other minorities.

You've made a bunch of generic statements that neither lead to any sort of a point nor carry any substance. That being said, you did call out someone as a hypocrite because he stood up for his community. I'd argue that you either are an extremist in ideology yourself or at the very least you sympathize with the likes of SSP/TTP/LeJ.

Are you an Indian ?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Attacks on minorities in Pakistan are usually carried out by mystery bombers, that is why there is always a suspicion that a foreign hand may be involved. Previously groups who indulged in sectarian violence were preaching hatred openly, now they are more guarded as they have been linked to anti-state activities including attacks on the armed forces themselves like the school bombing in Peshawar.

If any homegrown organisation has claimed responsibility then it appears to be getting lost in the duel for sectarian point scoring in this thread. Has any group claimed responsibility? If so what has been the official govt reaction?

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Attacks on minorities in Pakistan are usually carried out by mystery bombers, that is why there is always a suspicion that a foreign hand may be involved. Previously groups who indulged in sectarian violence were preaching hatred openly, now they are more guarded as they have been linked to anti-state activities including attacks on the armed forces themselves like the school bombing in Peshawar.

If any homegrown organisation has claimed responsibility then it appears to be getting lost in the duel for sectarian point scoring in this thread. Has any group claimed responsibility? If so what has been the official govt reaction?

https://www.dawn.com/news/amp/1475867

Another Taliban faction has claimed responsibility along with Lashkar e Jhangvi.

My point still stands. Shia community was specifically targeted and there were never any doubts about it.
[MENTION=147221]slipcatch[/MENTION] [MENTION=149000]Junaid_ahmed[/MENTION]

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

"Islamic State" is just another name assigned to the terrorists previously chased over the border into Afghanistan, then they were operating under the TTP flag. We know from their own words that Indian special forces give financial and tactical support to these splinter factions, but that only means Pakistan has to take even firmer action to root out these shadowy figures. A small number of motivated fanatics can wreak havoc on a nation if they aren't identified and wiped out.

 

[RickyG]

Are you an Indian ?

No I am actually Pakistani. But your next post would've been about how India is sponsoring all these attacks. And that has nothing to do with the original post. And it has nothing to do with you calling someone a hypocrite.

Trying to deflect again quite clearly.

 

[slipcatch]

Other minorities are targeted too. But in this instance, a shia community was targeted so why is it hypocritical to suggest that Shias are one of the communities that get targeted by extremist outfits?

Ahmadis, Hindus and Christians get targeted but sheer quantity of Shias that get killed is higher because they make up a larger portion of the general population than the other minorities.

You've made a bunch of generic statements that neither lead to any sort of a point nor carry any substance. That being said, you did call out someone as a hypocrite because he stood up for his community. I'd argue that you either are an extremist in ideology yourself or at the very least you sympathize with the likes of SSP/TTP/LeJ.

No I am actually Pakistani. But your next post would've been about how India is sponsoring all these attacks. And that has nothing to do with the original post. And it has nothing to do with you calling someone a hypocrite.

Trying to deflect again quite clearly.

You are good at playing 'let me make an assumption" game, congrats on doing so great.

The fact that I have to waste my time to defend myself against your childish accusation and assumption kind of annoy me off but you are slave to your thinking, anyone who does not agree with your 'burger mentality' then he/she must be either backward Pakistani or supporters of radicalized extremists group and that made you feel good about yourself because you got to pat yourself on the back for being a modern Pakistani, congrats on self appreciation.

Understand the whole situation and understand why it isn't a genocide as some posters here have called it a genocide.

Understand why minorities were targeted, and who targeted them.

Understand the timing of it.

Understand why sectarian violence does not help Pakistan and Pakistani establishment.

Since september 11, majority of sect violence against minorities were and are being committed by foreign extremists radicalized groups and they will continue because that is the easiest target.

about India, I do not have to say anything, their elected radicalized extremists nationalists government is doing great job to make them appear backward radicalized extremists group and It is almost always Indian who are obsesses with Pakistan.

Understand every element of it before you try to come across as holier than thou and try to twist my comments to make yourself feel better.

 

[Zeeraq]

President Arif Alvi, Bilawal Bhutto visit Quetta to offer condolences to Hazara community

President Arif Alvi on Tuesday met with the bereaved families of the victims of the Hazarganji bombing which claimed 20 lives in Quetta on Friday.

Members of the Shia Hazara community, protesting against the Hazarganji suicide bombing, had ended their sit-in late last night after receiving assurances from Balochistan Chief Minister Jam Kamal Alyani and State Minister for Interior Sheharyar Afridi.

Condoling with the victims' families, the president offered prayers for the departed souls. According to Radio Pakistan, President Alvi said that "Hazarganji-like conspiracies have failed to create a wedge in our society".

He said that the entire nation stands by the Hazara community in this hour of grief.

Earlier, talking to media persons in Quetta, the president had reaffirmed the government's commitment towards the implementation of the National Action Plan.

He also commended the Balochistan government for announcing a compensation package for the victims of the Hazarganji terrorist attack, many of whom were small traders.

While the president acknowledged that no amount of compensation could match the loss of lives, he hoped the package would address the most immediate problems faced by the bereaved families. He also acknowledged that it was the responsibility of the state to protect the lives of its people and expressed remorse for the incident.

The president said that, despite many challenges, the Pakistani nation stands united.

He also promised that Prime Minister Imran Khan will soon visit Balochistan.
Bilawal Bhutto visits victims' families

PPP Chairman Bilawal Bhutto Zardari also visited Quetta and offered his condolences to the Hazarganji victims' families.

He said that NAP had been created with the consensus of all political parties and it was the government's job to implement it.

"On one hand they say the government is standing with the victims of the incident, and on the other a video exists where a federal minister is seen giving assurances to murderers and saying that no one will be able to touch them," Bilawal said.

"Till when will have these dual standards, till when will this terrorism continue?" he asked, adding that the victims of terrorism are the ones who need to be mainstreamed, "not terrorists."

“No one can fight extremism alone, but we have to decide for the future. We need to fight this extremist mindset. When we ask for justice, we are called an enemy of the state. When I speak against banned organisations, I’m branded an enemy of the state," Bilawal said while speaking to the media.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1476494/p...etta-to-offer-condolences-to-hazara-community

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Exactly, you do not have to only shia to get killed.

"Exactly, you don't have to be only Muslim to get killed. White people get killed too."

^^Imagine saying that to Christchurch victims.

Are you even human? Ever heard of empathy and sympathy.

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic statement.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

You jumped the gun without understanding the concept of Terrorism in Pakistan and sectarian violence.

You got a tunnel vision and you will only repeat what you have been taught.

So explain it to me, brother.

Why is it such a complex concept that a person who faces it 1st hand can't understand it yet you do?

And no, I only repeat what I've experienced. These are ground realities. I'm not discussing fantasies with you.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Not a genocide, let's get the nomenclature correct first.

Where have I denied innocent shia's being victim of terrorism as much as other groups in Pakistan and also the vast majority of Pakistani? point it out, please.

I can point out many other people who were not shia and they were targeted, too.

Either way, Pakistan has a long way to go but before you blame every Pakistani for that understand what is Pakistan and why it always happen in Pakistan after certain events.

Again. Wrong word there.
Terrorists don't roam freely in Pakistan. Shia-killing extremists do. You can't deny it.
And does it have to be a genocide before someone starts to notice it? Is that how dead our(or rather your) moral conscience has become? I thought Islam taught us that a single innocent life taken is death of humanity.

Yes other people and groups get targeted as well.
Obviously, they have a right to speak out and ask for justice.
Why do you have a problem if we ask for justice and state obvious facts?

And why the hell will it ALWAYS happen in Pakistan? What exactly are you trying to say?

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Even Imran Khan, in the past, has referred to the attacks on the Hazara community as genocidal.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tragic news from Quetta. Condemn Lashkar e jhangvi for its genocidal campaign against shias particularly Hazaras. Where is the state?</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/289559175569235968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 11, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

From the Oxford dictionary:

genocide
NOUN

mass noun
The deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group.
‘a campaign of genocide’

 

[Junaid_ahmed]

Blanket statement.

Show me proof if Tehrik e Niffaz e Jaffria have staged any militant attack or extremist attack on ANYONE.

Even you are not saint. So going by your logic, I can also say that you are funded by Saudia to spread this propaganda. Doesn't mean that I'm right.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dawn.com/news/amp/1477323

Here it is what I was saying, everyone is washing his hand in this bloody Ganga.

 

[Mueez]

https://twitter.com/dr_firdouspti/status/1119614030400958470?s=21

PM will visit Quetta tomorrow to pay his condolences.

 

[MenInG]

Prime Minister Imran Khan arrived in Quetta on Sunday, where he met a delegation of the Hazara community at the Balochistan University of Information Technology, Engineering, and Management Sciences (BUITEMS) university.

According to PTI's official account, fatiha was "offered for the martyrs of the recent blast. Prime Minister listened to the issues of Hazara brethren and assured state will ensure their protection".

After the meeting, the premier laid the foundation stone of a housing project under Naya Pakistan Housing Programme.

Balochistan Chief Minister Jam Kamal Alyani at the launch ceremony thanked the premier for his visit to the province. The participants of the ceremony observed a minute of silence for the victims of last week's blast.

Hazarganji attack
The prime minister's visit comes more than a week after 20 people lost their lives and 48 others received injuries in a blast believed to be targeting members of the Hazara community in Quetta's Hazarganji market.

The attack on April 12 claimed the lives of nine Hazara and one Frontier Corps (FC) soldier who was deputed for the community's security. The 10 others who lost their lives included shopkeepers, businessmen and citizens working or residing in the area.

Members of the Shia Hazara community following the Hazarganji suicide bombing held a sit-in, demanding that Prime Minister Imran come to Quetta and assure them of protection and impartial implementation of the National Action Plan (NAP).

https://www.dawn.com/news/1477534/pm-imran-khan-arrives-in-quetta-meets-members-of-hazara-community

 

[saeedhk]

Hazaras who are also Shias face attacks in Pakistan. Hazara genocide has forced its community member to flee abroad to escape from attacks from Sunni militants.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gunmen kill many Hazara Shia coal miners in southwest Pakistan <a href="https://t.co/QP7RJCPjFd">https://t.co/QP7RJCPjFd</a></p>— Al Jazeera English (@AJEnglish) <a href="https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1345724126527418370?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[saeedhk]

11 Hazaras were beheaded today in Balochistan. Total blackout of this on Pakistani media. They are just saying 11 men gunned down.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

11 Hazaras were beheaded today in Balochistan. Total blackout of this on Pakistani media. They are just saying 11 men gunned down.

The article is based on rumours based on some unverified spokesman in Balochistan which should immediately raise suspicion based on Indian spy activity in that area. Pak news media are absolutely right not to comment until the story can be confirmed as legitimate.

 

[saeedhk]

Relatives of those killed are holding a sit-in in Balouchistan. They say for how long will they have to carry their deads who are simply killed for being Hazaras.

 

[Bigboii]

Hazara in the video didn't like IK's comments

 

[Gabbar Singh]

How many arrests have been made in this case? Any appearances in court? Cctv images of wanted men?

 

[saeedhk]

how many arrests have been made in this case? Any appearances in court? Cctv images of wanted men?

zero!

 

[RickyG]

The article is based on rumours based on some unverified spokesman in Balochistan which should immediately raise suspicion based on Indian spy activity in that area. Pak news media are absolutely right not to comment until the story can be confirmed as legitimate.

Any update? Did the media confirm or deny the rumour. Heard Imran Khan went on a vacation to Quetta recently. Wonder if he came across anything suspicious.