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2019 World Cup to put an end to a lot of debates regarding players and teams

Excellent thread idea! I hope everyone here will have the integrity to swallow their smack-talk over the next 15 months, if their predictions don't come to fruition. Conversley, people should make very carefully calculated statements.

Btw, not fair to label Afghanistan as minnows. They made the top 10 WC fair and square, and at one stage probably had only a 1% chance of qualifying. They may not be a favorite to win, but the way the Qualification system is, every team richly deserves to be here.

One could even say that teams like Scotland deserved to be here, but cruelly missed out.
Afghanistan and West Indies will get smashed at the WC.
 
Take out Imad for Hasan Ali.

Its not low standards. We didn't win the CT for no reason. We have world class players accept the reality.

Dragging CT win in every debate and argument is best way of defence now a days..WORLD CLASS that's a big tag mate..u need to perform at the highest level against Worlds top team consistently...and i never said they are low standard..the players which you have mentioned are good players and great prospect..but labelling every one World class and chest Thumping is hilarious.and I forgot to add Congrats on CT Win..
 
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Best Batsman : Joe Root. At home and finally converts those 50s to 100s.
Best Bowler : Hasan. Best ODI bowler currently and will pick buckets of wickets albeit at a high economy.
SF : England, India, NZ, AUS
England to lose in the final to either India or Australia.
 
Dhoni already proving that he'll lose the matches.

We are stuck now, neither can we go for any youngster,as the time is very less to groom him for the WC, nor can we play Dhoni and take a hit.

Another option is, Karthik, but I am not certain whether he can deliver at the biggest stage. May be, he would.
 
Just wait guys. This thread is going to shame a lot of posters here. We Asians are so insecure and try to downplay achievements of others. Get ready to be proven wrong.. Haha

Embarrassment to the so called FANS.
 
Nice thread. Here are some of my opinions based on 10 months more of data:

1.Bumrah vs Hassan vs Fizz <b>Bumrah is considerably ahead at this point and I expect him to continue being the best.</b>
2.Chahal vs Shadab vs Rashid
3.Faheem vs Pandya <b>Pandya will fire in a few games and be a dud in others, but Faheem may not even make it to the team.</b>
4.Sarfraz vs Mushfiqur
5.Smith vs Williamson vs Root

Individual players

1.Kohli a choker <b>Not anymore in England!</b>
2.Bhubneshwar has improved <b>Yes</b>
3.Fakhar a hack <b>Getting exposed regularly now</b>
4.Tamim the 2nd best Asian opener
5.Babar the 2nd best Asian batsman <b>At least one of Rohit, Dhawan or Dhoni besides Kohli will do better than him</b>
6.Dhoni will not lose games for his team <b>I hope not!</b>
7.Amir brings his A game when the stakes are high <b>Yes, he is the biggest threat when they play India</b>
8.Rohit, Amir's bunny <b>Hammered him in the Asia Cup, but English conditions may be more to Amir's liking</b>
9.Williamson in Fab 4
10. Babar scores only against WI and SL <b>I expect him to do well against most teams. He will even improve his current 27.5 avg @ SR 73 against India is ODIs :)</b>


Country comparison:

1.India vs Pakistan bowling attack
2.Bangladesh / Pakistan the 2nd best Asian side
3.Pakistan are strong enough to beat India (without a FLUKE)


Country:

1.Pakistan has improved in LOIs <b>unpredictable team, but probably won't do well</b>
2.BAN has improved in LOIs <b>reaching SF would be a very big achievement</b>
3.Afghanistan has improved <b>yes</b>
4.England have the best batting line up <b>no, India does</b>

I am not being biased here. I just wrote what I can remember. You can also add further Comparisons if u wish.

Note:
1.Please don't quarrel.
2.Give ur opinion
3.Debate.
4.If the opposite person disagrees, then agree to disagree.
 
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Can’t wait for it.

Eagerly waiting for the Ind vs Pak contest.
 
Answers

Bumrah is best
Chahal is best
Kohli choked
Fakhar hack
Pandya best
Mushfiqur best
Williamson is best
Tamim is not second best opener in Asia
Babar not second best batsman in Asia
Babar scores against teams apart from wi and sl
Amir performed better
Ban is not second best Asian team



DHONI COST US AT THE WORLD CUP
 
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Sharma is a flat track bully and is a walking wicket against quality bowling
Kohli is a choker and flat track bully
India are the modern day chokers of cricket
Bangladesh are overrated
Williamson is the most underrated odi player
Stokes and Butler are the best finishers and most clutch players
Amir has gotten better
Afghanistan were always a trash odi team
Zaman is a hack
 
Sharma is a flat track bully and is a walking wicket against quality bowling
Kohli is a choker and flat track bully
India are the modern day chokers of cricket
Bangladesh are overrated
Williamson is the most underrated odi player
Stokes and Butler are the best finishers and most clutch players
Amir has gotten better
Afghanistan were always a trash odi team
Zaman is a hack

all those dweebs are elite in home conditions.
buttler and stokes especially.
 
1. Australia and India are the best ODI teams in the world and will reach the semi-finals of the WC 9 out of 10 times.
2. South Africa are eternal chokers with no hope of reprieve
3. Pakistan aren't up to the mark and still have a long way to go
4. The best fighters in the world are the Afghans.
5. West Indies are c**p
6. Bangladesh have a really good future
7. Sri Lanka are c**p
 
So what's the verdict?

Some perspective ones

1. Cricket as a sport becomes more interesting when the balance between bat and ball exists (400 plays 380 games are dull despite many sixes and fours )

2. No team can win purely on skill. Luck is a massively underrated element of professional sport. Tourneys are mostly won on fluke moments and coin tosses (and doctored pitches)

3. Clutch players are worth their weight in gold. There are only a few clutch players. They are

a. England - Stokes
b. India - Bumrah
c. Nzl - Williamson
d. Aus - Starc

Others include Amir, and Shakib.

4. Cricket rules need to be scratched and rewritten and recreated so ordinary people can also understand them. Enough of this elite word play and what not.

5. Pakistan is there or thereabout. Not a bad team however, India's mental grip on this team is way too strong. Australia continue their legacy despite being short on quality. Bangladesh will be a force in the next world cup.

6. Too many flat track bullies
 
Indias can't bowl cuz if they can they would have won the World Cup

Also this World Cup proved India are overrated
 
1. Australia and India are the best ODI teams in the world and will reach the semi-finals of the WC 9 out of 10 times.
2. South Africa are eternal chokers with no hope of reprieve
3. Pakistan aren't up to the mark and still have a long way to go
4. The best fighters in the world are the Afghans.
5. West Indies are c**p
6. Bangladesh have a really good future
7. Sri Lanka are c**p

Good points. AUS and Ind will go to SF 10 out of 10. Gun tournament teams. Indians can be unbeatable with a couple of new good middle order bats. There is no bowler like Bumrah. None. Can dominate with new ball, in the middle overs and just unplayable at death. Butler and Stokes struggled to hit beyond square against him. West Indies will be a good team for the next WC, SA are done.
 
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