2020 Presidential Election: Can Democrats defeat Trump?

[ShahKhan007]

In my opinion it depends on Democrats strategy. If they focus their campaign on health care, low income families and have a decent proposal on illegal immigration than they have a very good chance of winning. But if they continue to attack Trump on even how he drinks water and specially try to impeach him than it will only backfire and lead to a comprehensive victory for Trump.

 

[Varun]

Trump will win easy. More power to him.

The democrats better pick somebody better than their version of Sonia Gandhi (Hilary Clinton) though.

 

[troodon]

Think he will win again.
He may be an idiot, but what he talks in public what many Americans talk behind the closed doors.

Dems need to put a strong candidate to oust trump in the next elections.

 

[DeadBall]

Dems don't have a candidate that captures the imagination of the people. All are lallu panjus.

 

[javier]

He has a lot of support among Americans and I hope he wins.

 

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

so far a big NO

 

[JaDed]

Don't attack Trump, just stay on point problem.is.liberal media really takes on Trump making him.look.like a victim.

 

[Markhor]

Let's just make this clear. Donald Trump won the 2016 Election on the back of a perfect storm.

He was up against Hillary Clinton who the Democrats in their infinite stupidity had backed despite having equally abysmal approval ratings. In a year of populist surges (Brexit), Democrats picked an establishment candidate with considerable baggage. You can argue Jim Comey didn't help with his last minute theatrics, and the Russians played their part, but Clinton's coziness with corporate America put her off to many working class voters.

And despite facing such a flawed opponent - Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million votes. He won on the back of just 77,000 votes across three crucial mid-Western states - Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Clinton underperformed in those states compared to Obama in 2012 and that proved her downfall.

So what's the solution ? Elect a better Democratic candidate who if they win just those three Mid-Western states alone along with the states Clinton won in 2016 - they win the Electoral College. You don't need Florida or Ohio.

The best candidate would be Sherrod Brown - he's won his Senate seat despite Ohio turning red. He is pro-union, anti-free trade in a very similar way to Trump, and has a strong populist progressive track record. You beat a fake populist with a real populist. Put Richard Ojeda on the ticket as the VP and you have a strong team. He's another populist progressive and military veteran who takes no crap from anyone, and led the Teacher's Strike in West Virginia. He represented the largest swing of Trump voters toward Democrats in any district around the country - losing 12 points to Carol Miller that went +50 for Trump. He even voted for Trump in 2016 but has admitted he got hoodwinked.

Don't run on identity politics (people know Trump is a racist and misogynist - they don't need it repeating 24/7) but on kitchen table issues like expanding affordable healthcare, increasing the minimum wage, investing in public education and infrastructure, and reducing the power of special interests and D.C. lobbyists.

 

[Napa]

Let's just make this clear. Donald Trump won the 2016 Election on the back of a perfect storm.

He was up against Hillary Clinton who the Democrats in their infinite stupidity had backed despite having equally abysmal approval ratings. In a year of populist surges (Brexit), Democrats picked an establishment candidate with considerable baggage. You can argue Jim Comey didn't help with his last minute theatrics, and the Russians played their part, but Clinton's coziness with corporate America put her off to many working class voters.

And despite facing such a flawed opponent - Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million votes. He won on the back of just 77,000 votes across three crucial mid-Western states - Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Clinton underperformed in those states compared to Obama in 2012 and that proved her downfall.

So what's the solution ? Elect a better Democratic candidate who if they win just those three Mid-Western states alone along with the states Clinton won in 2016 - they win the Electoral College. You don't need Florida or Ohio.

The best candidate would be Sherrod Brown - he's won his Senate seat despite Ohio turning red. He is pro-union, anti-free trade in a very similar way to Trump, and has a strong populist progressive track record. You beat a fake populist with a real populist. Put Richard Ojeda on the ticket as the VP and you have a strong team. He's another populist progressive and military veteran who takes no crap from anyone, and led the Teacher's Strike in West Virginia. He represented the largest swing of Trump voters toward Democrats in any district around the country - losing 12 points to Carol Miller that went +50 for Trump. He even voted for Trump in 2016 but has admitted he got hoodwinked.

Don't run on identity politics (people know Trump is a racist and misogynist - they don't need it repeating 24/7) but on kitchen table issues like expanding affordable healthcare, increasing the minimum wage, investing in public education and infrastructure, and reducing the power of special interests and D.C. lobbyists.

Good analysis. The Dem primary voter is however not as smart as you, and Sherrod Brown figures nowhere on the list of likely Dem nominees. At the top of that list are (in order of their chances according to the British bookmakers) Harris, Beto, Warren, Biden, Gillbrand and Bloomberg. Booker seems to have dropped out of the list of frontrunners after very salacious allegations were made against him.

I won't say any of the above candidates other than Beto will get the voters excited.

Trump's approval rating will remain around 45% heading into the 2020 elections, which makes his reelection seem difficult. However, only 58% of eligible voters voted in 2016 and that rate is usually lower than 60%. So, it is all going to come down to how motivated the base is?

Trump's base is very motivated as he has been consistent. Also, losing the House and having Pelosi back in the news is good news for him. Having part of the government dampens Democratic enthusiasm while reducing Republican apathy. The British bookmakers currently have Trump at around 60% to win, I think his chances are underpriced. I would put his chances at around 75%.

 

[ManFan]

He will win again.

Even in a historically blue state such as NY, there are plenty of MAGA hats to be seen around.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

Dems need a strong candidate. Hopefully, someone like Barnie Sanders can put this guy in his place. The fact the novelty factor for Trump has worn off, before no politician knew how to react his garbage, I'm sure in 2020 they will be prepared.

Also, we need to consider the fact if he's still around lol (Mullers investigation is said to be concluded soon).

 

[Bewal Express]

Trump has a strong economy and has a base of 40%, all he needs is another 7% and he wins. Trump will win- watch out Iran.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

It may happen if they pick Ojeda because of his rust belt appeal. Electoral college fiascos of the past have proved that winning popular vote is not enough.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Trump has a strong economy and has a base of 40%, all he needs is another 7% and he wins. Trump will win- watch out Iran.

The recent midterm elections have demonstrated that the Republicans are losing their appeal, even in the rust belt. The fact that Beto O’ Rourke and Andrew Gillam got so close to winning deeply Red states suggests to me that Trump is the worst thing that can happen to Republicans in 2020.

 

[Napa]

The recent midterm elections have demonstrated that the Republicans are losing their appeal, even in the rust belt. The fact that Beto O’ Rourke and Andrew Gillam got so close to winning deeply Red states suggests to me that Trump is the worst thing that can happen to Republicans in 2020.

Trump actually performed well in the midterms which are traditionally bad for the party of the President. Bill Clinton lost 54 seats in the House, and Obama lost 63 seats. Trump in comparison only lost 33 seats.

 

[James]

Makes me die a little bit inside to type this, but currently I can’t see anything in 2020 other than a Trump victory.

 

[Napa]

Makes me die a little bit inside to type this, but currently I can’t see anything in 2020 other than a Trump victory.

Cheer up, it is not all bad. If it wasn't for Trump, the free trade treaty Trans Pacific Pact would be law, and the US working class in even more worse shape. A couple of new wars (most likely in the Mideast) would also have been started like Bush started the Iraq War based on lies, and Obama's CIA started the Syrian War with Saudi and Qatari help, leading to the deaths of another million people.

Iraqis and Syrians are humans too, and we can never forgive the criminals who are responsible for the deaths of a million.

 

[hussain.r97]

Does Bernie Sanders have a chance?

 

[Pakistanian]

Makes me die a little bit inside to type this, but currently I can’t see anything in 2020 other than a Trump victory.

It's gonna be difficult. I don't see a Trump win. He will likely lose the swing the states of Ohio and Pennsylvania, those states are pretty diverse and quite liberal, that almost ties up Trump with the Dem candidate (266 - 265 electoral votes).

There's the swing state of Florida which has always had close elections and could seriously go either way, and then there's the traditionally blue states of Michigan and Wisconsin that Trump flipped last election and I don't think he'll hold onto them. Lets say he keeps Wisconsin because of how white it is however Michigan is very diverse (Arabs, Blacks etc) and I see dems winning that state.

So even if Trump holds onto Wisconsin and somehow wins Florida again, he'll only have 250 electoral votes and the Democrat candidate will have 281, you only need 270 votes to become the President. So odds are stacked against Trump. I feel like the Dem candidate will win by 300+ votes.

 

[Varun]

Lets say he keeps Wisconsin because of how white it is however Michigan is very diverse (Arabs, Blacks etc) and I see dems winning that state.

You realize that it's never so black and white (pun intended) that all whites vote for Trump, while all blacks vote for the Dem candidate? Much like many Muslims voted for the BJP or abstained from voting in India, many non-whites in the US backed Trump or didn't turn up on voting day because they didn't like Clinton.

They and everybody else will have had 4 years worth of the supposed boogeyman by the time 2020 comes around - 4 years where no pointless wars were begun, taxes remained on par if not lower, the economy and energy prices benign, and an air of stability overall. Trump is the devil you know at worst, and most will stick to him for that reason.

Parties like the Democrats / Congress / others need to take a leaf out of the winners' books to gear their party to the 2010s outlook and mood of the people. Having a Nobel Prize winner-fraud with one curated speech after another, or the son/daughter/husband/wife of a previous candidate is not appealing enough for most in this day and age.

 

[Azmi]

Cheer up, it is not all bad. If it wasn't for Trump, the free trade treaty Trans Pacific Pact would be law, and the US working class in even more worse shape. A couple of new wars (most likely in the Mideast) would also have been started like Bush started the Iraq War based on lies, and Obama's CIA started the Syrian War with Saudi and Qatari help, leading to the deaths of another million people.

Iraqis and Syrians are humans too, and we can never forgive the criminals who are responsible for the deaths of a million.

Perhaps Obama started the war in Syria, but Trump is Continuing this war willingly and against all his claims of the past and he is fully ok with this war.

It is about the Israeli factor. While Israel want war in Syria, thus Trump obliges.

 

[Napa]

Perhaps Obama started the war in Syria, but Trump is Continuing this war willingly and against all his claims of the past and he is fully ok with this war.

It is about the Israeli factor. While Israel want war in Syria, thus Trump obliges.

Actually Trump has taken a much more practical approach to the Syrian War. He has recognized that Assad and the Russians are going to win. The CIA has scaled back their support for the anti-Assad forces (which are dominated by ISIS and Al-Qaeda surrogates). However he is limited in how much he can cooperate with the Russians because the Democrats at home will throw a hissy fit and call him "Putin's puppet" or whatever.

 

[Napa]

You realize that it's never so black and white (pun intended) that all whites vote for Trump, while all blacks vote for the Dem candidate? Much like many Muslims voted for the BJP or abstained from voting in India, many non-whites in the US backed Trump or didn't turn up on voting day because they didn't like Clinton.

They and everybody else will have had 4 years worth of the supposed boogeyman by the time 2020 comes around - <b>4 years where no pointless wars were begun, taxes remained on par if not lower, the economy and energy prices benign, and an air of stability overall.</b> Trump is the devil you know at worst, and most will stick to him for that reason.

Parties like the Democrats / Congress / others need to take a leaf out of the winners' books to gear their party to the 2010s outlook and mood of the people. <b>Having a Nobel Prize winner-fraud with one curated speech after another, or the son/daughter/husband/wife of a previous candidate is not appealing enough for most in this day and age.</b>

You tell them bud. Can I borrow you for a few dinners where I am invariably isolated?

 

[Varun]

You tell them bud. Can I borrow you for a few dinners where I am invariably isolated?

Do a Trump. Say it like it is. Always works best.

 

[Markhor]

Trump actually performed well in the midterms which are traditionally bad for the party of the President. Bill Clinton lost 54 seats in the House, and Obama lost 63 seats. Trump in comparison only lost 33 seats.

Gerrymandering explains that. Democrats won the popular vote in the House by 7% which is about the same as the Republican margin of victory in 1994, and higher than 2010.

The average midterm loss for the president's party has been 23 seats since 1970.

Of course midterm losses are no guarantee of Presidential Election victories.

 

[Suleiman]

Hopefully not. What we need right now is a leader who can remain calm. Who cares what these foreigners think.

 

[Napa]

Gerrymandering explains that. Democrats won the popular vote in the House by 7% which is about the same as the Republican margin of victory in 1994, and higher than 2010.

The average midterm loss for the president's party has been 23 seats since 1970.

Of course midterm losses are no guarantee of Presidential Election victories.

Yes, but as 2016 shows, for the Dems to beat Trump winning the popular vote isn't enough. All those large margins in victory in California will not stop Trump for winning Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida again on his way to a electoral college victory.

 

[Napa]

Do a Trump. Say it like it is. Always works best.

Can't do that with friends and relatives. They start thinking I am some sort of heartless misogynist conservative, even though all I am saying is we need to take a balanced view of both sides. The indoctrination by the mainstream media runs deep

 

[Pakistanian]

You realize that it's never so black and white (pun intended) that all whites vote for Trump, while all blacks vote for the Dem candidate?.......

You realize that you don't live in this country and don't understand the society here like do. I see wisconsin voting for trump because this country has gotten even more divided than ever before and I see Wisconsin going to Trump again for that. Also it's hilarious how you assume that just because I'm opposed to Trump must mean I support Obama , I've always been opposed to Obama and consider him a fraud, a lot of Muslim Americans are also no fans of Trump. Trump hasn't done any wonders for this country is further dividing it, we don't need a white supremacist as President. You sound like the type of person who would even support apartheid if it meant it'd lead to economic prosperity, that's actually quite pathetic.

I agree that the Dems need to get rid of fake liberals like the Clintons and move to people like Beto, Bernie, Ocasio-Cortez etc , a lot of young people are coming out to vote and what the Dems need to do is to stop pandering to the right wing/white nationalists, that's why Obama failed because he kept compromising on his agenda to please the Republicans, I don't even like Cenk Uygur but he's right when he says the Dems have to go all out.

 

[Pakistanian]

Yes, but as 2016 shows, for the Dems to beat Trump winning the popular vote isn't enough. All those large margins in victory in California will not stop Trump for winning Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida again on his way to a electoral college victory.

I don't see him winning Ohio or Pennsylvania.

 

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

You realize that you don't live in this country and don't understand the society here like do. I see wisconsin voting for trump because this country has gotten even more divided than ever before and I see Wisconsin going to Trump again for that. Also it's hilarious how you assume that just because I'm opposed to Trump must mean I support Obama , I've always been opposed to Obama and consider him a fraud, a lot of Muslim Americans are also no fans of Trump. Trump hasn't done any wonders for this country is further dividing it, we don't need a white supremacist as President. You sound like the type of person who would even support apartheid if it meant it'd lead to economic prosperity, that's actually quite pathetic.

I agree that the Dems need to get rid of fake liberals like the Clintons and move to people like Beto, Bernie, Ocasio-Cortez etc , a lot of young people are coming out to vote and what the Dems need to do is to stop pandering to the right wing/white nationalists, that's why Obama failed because he kept compromising on his agenda to please the Republicans, I don't even like Cenk Uygur but he's right when he says the Dems have to go all out.

Sorry bud , your boy is fav to win 2020 .

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-still-favorite-win-230248408.html